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noob here. wondering why all of a sudden the sd card is gone from the drop down bar. it isnt able to be seen through the storage program built into wm6 faria crossbow. installed the cab wmstorage, and it helped. i can see the card on windows xp but it is still not on the pda. its a wizard with wm6. nothing pretty much installed at all. did a hard start to go fresh and it didnt help. please help me!!! im sure this has been addressed before, but im not familiar with the site yet and im in a rush to get this card back. its got work files on it that i need in the morning! i promise to be a good noob and research everything else from now on... thanks!
Will try to help you out. . .
First Drop down of what? are you able to see your SD card in Settings under Memory?
can you access your card in the XP PC? open and execute files?
Overclocked?
Hi, that happened to me when I overclocked my Wizard to 221MHz i think, dont remember now, but the SD card data became corrupted, with WinXP I could see the directories but the data was unreadable, I just formated the SD card in WinXP and everything was fine again, just lost all the data..
cya,
the drop down or "start" menu. i cannot see the card anywhere on the pda. i installed wm5torage, and was able to see the card on my laptop as another drive. and i was ale to get the files and open files ect... but i got real happy until i went back to the pda, and still not there. so the card is ok, and i was able to get the data, but whys it not showing up... ??? its a g3(?) and running wm6. hope this is enough info to get started. thanks!
this just happen to my mda also.. i had to call tmobile and get a new one.. the port went bad.. it would only work if i pushed the memory card down far as possible but once i took pressure off it would disappear
Before going through all the tech support and purchasing new cards....try this...as this has happened to me many and i mean, many of times...
apparently you may have for your email attachments to be stored on storage card, then you may have done a soft reset, and quite possibly an email attachment was downloaded before storage card was initialized... so it is possible that a folder named storage card could have been created and your actual storage card may not show or be shown as storage card 2
What I did was take the card out, and delete the sotrage card folder and then reinsert the card and it shows up propperly, hoping this is what happend to you, this may do the fix.
If not, im not sure of what to do...but just a little help from my side.
killa, i tried looking through all the folders, but i believe there are some i cannot find??? i tried to do the search, but it says that search only goes through the my documents folder. do you know where you found the folder? thanks for the help.
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killa, i tried looking through all the folders, but i believe there are some i cannot find??? i tried to do the search, but it says that search only goes through the my documents folder. do you know where you found the folder? thanks for the help.
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Not too sure what happen to your device...but the Storage Card folder usually shows up in the root of the device just as the actual storage card does, as a matter of fact, the actual storage card would typically show up under the folder named storage card, and your actual storage card would show up as storage card 2.....hope i dont confuse you with that, but it seems that your problem may be an even more deeper problem than this, hope its not, but hopefully we can help you get this resolved.
the wm5torage program let me backup the files. the pda is still not recognizing it but i believe its a software issue obviously if the pda doesnt see it but my laptop does. i have the option of formatting the drive. i havent tried it yet, but im not sure if that will help anyway. i dont see how formatting will help the pda see it, but its another option right?
Why dont you try first on inserting other mini SD card first if your PDA recognize it then you might need to format the card. . . if it doesnt then its a phone problem? did you unlock your extended rom? it is also a reason why storage card is not available. .
Just one thought....It may be possible that your card is formatted in NTFS, then your card will only be readable in desktop but not in PPC
i was able to format it through the laptop as fat32. but it still isnt seen on the pda. i am on a business trip with a laptop and all my other peripherals are at home and i am two days away from being there. so no, i havent tried the other card/put the present one in the card reader ect... all that stuffs at home. i just dont see how all of a sudden, out of the blue, its no longer visible. i even hard started the pda and formatted the sd... it has to be a software issue. noones had this prob with faria crossbow? btw, thanks for all the tips, i try them as i read them!
Man, make it simple
You say that the Desktop PC sees your card, right ? Well , copy all you have on the MiniSD to the computer
Insert the MiniSD in the Wizard, and format it with any software that is able to do that(ex. RescoExplorer)
Then it should work, right ?
If you cannot see it at all from resco or similar, then reformat it into the PC and see that it is FAT not NTFS ... I don't remember which one Fat 16/32 but I guess that 32
Good luck
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Man, make it simple
You say that the Desktop PC sees your card, right ? Well , copy all you have on the MiniSD to the computer
Insert the MiniSD in the Wizard, and format it with any software that is able to do that(ex. RescoExplorer)
Then it should work, right ?
If you cannot see it at all from resco or similar, then reformat it into the PC and see that it is FAT not NTFS ... I don't remember which one Fat 16/32 but I guess that 32
Good luck
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ya, the card is seen but only when i use wm5torage and activate it. but it still isnt seen on the pda. when i did that, i formatted the card through the laptop as fat32. still not seeing but im finding info on alot of the forums here. i even tried the reg value change suggestions and that didnt work. im starting to think it maybe a bad card? but then why would i be able to see it on the laptop through the mobile usb connection??? grrr...
Then Hard reset Time if all solution you have seen have failed. . . you can backup your contacts using active sync or any third party software will do. .
Hi everyone!
I have an annoying problem with my orbit2 and its sd-card: every now and then the orbit corrupts the card so that the explorer does no longer list any files or directories. the files seem to be still present though as the memory manager claims the space still occupied. looks like the FAT is smashed somehow.
this happend with the standard 1gb card several weeks ago and now again with my new 4gb card as well. the problem this time is a) i want to get the data back and b) ensure this won't happen again.
i cant access the card by one of my two cardreaders, they get both stuck when the card is inserted.
i already googled around for some hours and of course tried to find a problem description in here but didnt find satisfying results ;-(
any of you got some information and suggestions 'bout this problem?
thx already
niGGo
Same problem here, does not register in any card readers either, most annoying!
format the SD card before use. it will solve the issuehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
solve the issue of not being detected by the card reader maybe ...
but what about the data loss on the xda? there is not even a write protection switch for a microSD card
My orbit 2 hasn't currupted my 4gb MicroSD card. I formatted it into FAT32 before I put it in my phone, so that might be why. Doesn't FAT have a limit of 3.5gb or sommat, where as FAT32 is much more.
hmm guess you are right but mine is already fat32 formatted
i never did this by hand so it was already like this when i bought it......
yep.... me too. After four weeks, my sd card shows folders with squares in the name fields... can't open them and lost a bunch of photos and videos, not to mention the applications that were installed in there as well...
4GB ScanDisk micro SD card
Must be some software on the device causing that, can't think it's a problem with the SD card
hmm hmm hmm ... was not using a programm shortly before the problem ocurred. i have a SanDisk card as well btw but as said in the first post the problem ocurred once with the 1gig card as well ...
i will try to get a cardreader that can deal with sdhc cards and then try to check the card again .....
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Must be some software on the device causing that, can't think it's a problem with the SD card
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I have considered that possibility... or maybe some particular configuration of one of the programs installed.
But I haven't changed anything in about four days... then only today the problem occurred. Only thing unusual I did today was take a bunch of photos and shoot some 4 or five 1 minute videos... could it be a problem related to CorePlayer/Camera/Video recording??
When I got back and synched it, the sd card was messed up... but I still could read my photos through the phone... then after a soft reset, the phone was not able to read my sd card anymore...
coreplayer is installed on my device as well but i don't think its related to it (just a feeling though)
the more interesting point is that you tool some photos .... i'm not totally sure but i've taken some pictures recently before the crash as well and they get saved to the storage card on my device ....
i will switch the save location back to main memory now for testing purposes and wait some weeks if theres no better idea
Hi,
I had the same problem with my 8GB SanDisk card every two or three days until recently. Two things changed:
1. flashed bepe's WM6.1 image
2. didn't install MortPlayer yet which I had running before
Now everything seems to be working fine. No problems for a week now.
I thought maybe there's a bug in WM6.0.
hmm i don't wanna install an unofficial WM update or ROM on my cellphone ... no problem doin' stuff like this on my pc or satellite receiver but my cell is kept clean
hope there will be a regular update then soon ....
...my experiences:
I had several crushes of the SD card, where I have lost almost all of the content. First lesson:
Backup/Sync SD with my PC regularly, so this is more a time issue now
Second:
I have discovered, that the loss happens (at least valid for me) when:
- device wake up from standby by pressing power button
and
- a program is running, which accesses data on SD card, like MP3 player, ebook reader or Navigation. All of them sores data on SD card.
Possibly a bug in the card handling part of code, where data/buffer is being written falsly, during wake up of the SDdevice.....
Can somebody proof that?
Regards
Dejan
I have never had a SD card corrupt on me.......My TC is as it came out of the box.....I have installed;
- AstroNavigator II
- Fun Contacts
- SMS Notifier
- PZP
I hope this helps..........
Will
I also encountered the first problem of this kind today:
Although I can still take photos on the card and they claim to be stored in /DCIM/100MEDIA/IMAGxxxx.JPG, the DCIM is shown totally empty when trying to access it via Explorer.
When I try to open the DCIM Directory with the tool Total Commander, the tool shows up an "Error 13 at directory change".
Does this mean my card is defect now? All the other directories seem to be okay. It is the original card I got with the XDA with TomTom installed on it. So I guess I might take it back to my provider.
Regards
Michael
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yep.... me too. After four weeks, my sd card shows folders with squares in the name fields... can't open them and lost a bunch of photos and videos, not to mention the applications that were installed in there as well...
4GB ScanDisk micro SD card
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I have the same card.
Even the same problem for a few times. For me a soft reset solved the problems. I had no data loss. So I would assume that it's a problem of the phone not being able to read the card properly for some reason.
Same here
I have an 8GB SD card and some of my folders vanished while some remained. All the files in the root are gone.
I used an SDHC reader to check on my PC and it cannot see the missing folder either.
Any suggestions for a good freeware MicroSD data recovery?
I guess the theory of the phone going standby while an app is writing to a buffer in the card is causing the big mess is right...
Cheers,
-Feaps
My two pen'orth -
Is this isolated or a major problem?
>I guess the theory of the phone going standby while an app is writing to a buffer in the card is causing the big mess is right...
If windows is using write back cacheing and the device switches off with the file data in the cache then maybe the card FAT is being corrupted
the artemis had this same problem, have a look in the sticky at the top of the artemis threads for the fix (it's worth reading), maybe it will work for the polaris, luckily I don't have one yet so I can't try it myself.
Regards
Kim
thought I lost all in my memory card (sandisk 6Gb) . That happened after reinserting the card in the cruise .
I found with the explorer that my card was empty ....but , I found also a card number 2 .
During the time when my card was out the Cruise , I used probably a program who needed a storage card . So I think (but maybe I'm totally wrong) that WM6 created a virtual card within the PocketPC .
So when I put my Sandisk back , A (virtual) storage card was already in the PocketPC . So my Sandisk has been renamed Card 2 .
I removed the Sandisk , deleted the Storage card (empty) with the explorer , and reinserted my Sandisk again .
Everything is OK .
In fact , nothing disappeared .
It happened to me 3 times in 3 days. The entire contents disappeared with no reason. I have never experienced this issue, but it is getting me out of my nerves.
My SD card is a Sandisk 8 GB SDHC.
I have scanned the card using a card reader and it seems that all the files are there, but they're unlinked. The space is used, but the files are not accesible, so when I go to Storage Card, I find it empty.
It's TOTALLY annoying. Please, give your experience if you have this problem.
Have you lost all your MicroSD card contents and you don't know why?
My Sandisk 8gb card came with a USB2 card reader that is great speed-wise; but twice I lost all the data when using it. I didn't realize it might be related at the time, but then I misplaced the reader and switched to using the adapter kind -- the SD sized thing that you slip the microSD card into (my laptop has a SD card slot). It's been a few months now, and with constant switching of the card between my Touch, Touch Cruise and laptop, I've not lost the data since.
While I can't say for sure it's related, it hasn't happened since I stopped using the USB adapter that shipped with the card.
I think it's not related to the use of the adapter since the first time I lost my files I was on a route using Tomtom 7. In my way back, I had to go without the navigator :S No maps, and the videos and pictures that I took, totally lost.
Fortunately I have an application that is pure gold to recover every disaster that could happen (recovers partitions even after formatting the disk, and files with their original names). It's not pleasant for me to use this application ("[email protected] Partition Recovery Enterprise"), but this is becoming too usual...
By the way I'm using udK's WM6.1 ROM R6, even though I don't think it's related to it.
My MicroSD is formatted in FAT32 with 32KB clusters.
Any ideas about how to fix this problem?
The last time I lost the contents I was about to sync music with WMP (with the USB connected).
Good luck... I'm using the ROM that shipped with the device. Guess the only way to know if it's related to a cooked-ROM is to re-install the official ROM and see how things go.
I'm using HTC original ROM and 8Gb Sandisk card with no problem for more than 3 months. My fingers are crossed
I'm using HTC original ROM and 8Gb Sandisk card with some issues (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407046&highlight=bodisson), but no files are missing.
Sometimes I get extra file names with really weird characters. Usually, if I reinsert the card, these go away and I can access normally the card.
(SanDisk 4GB SDHC)
George
6ITdtvFQqY said:
Sometimes I get extra file names with really weird characters. Usually, if I reinsert the card, these go away and I can access normally the card.
(SanDisk 4GB SDHC)
George
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same here...
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It happened to me 3 times in 3 days. The entire contents disappeared with no reason. I have never experienced this issue, but it is getting me out of my nerves.
My SD card is a Sandisk 8 GB SDHC.
I have scanned the card using a card reader and it seems that all the files are there, but they're unlinked. The space is used, but the files are not accesible, so when I go to Storage Card, I find it empty.
It's TOTALLY annoying. Please, give your experience if you have this problem.
Have you lost all your MicroSD card contents and you don't know why?
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that happened to me twice..my problem was solved by installing an sd enhancement cab file. almost everything appeared back in my sd.
i have an HTC touch cruise. here is a link for the cab file..try it if you want, maybe you ll solve your problem
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kr98xz
did you use something like sktools for change pathes of temp/cookes files of I.E or so on?
If yes it could following happend:
You change the destination path for some application like InternetExplorers Temp and Cookies pathes to point to Storage Card.
After this you removed the card on any time.
The device cannot find the path to the Storage Card and creates a folder "Storage Card" on the root of the internal device memory.
If you insert a card again, it show you onliy the content of the new folder.
Regards
Daydoo
Dudes,
I'm bought a sandisk 8gb micro SDHC about a month ago.
Filled it almost to the brim with music and podcasts.
I regularly uses great programs like S2P and BeyondPod for music and podcasts to listen with my Bluetooth A2DP headset.
Had no problem until recently where the entire card is not readable anymore
Symptoms:
1) the phone started not to recognise the SDHC, where it could not detect any inserted card
2) the failures on the SDHC gave me corrupted files. I was able to repaired these by using the Windows XP chkdsk and fix error command
3) by the 3rd time i did this, the card was not readable at all
Suspects:
1) every time polaris hang, i would press the reset button. I suspect tat this would corrupt some files (possibly even the entire SDHC ??)
2) every time polaris hang, i think the phone was running more than 1 app at the same time. In my case, it was probably S2U2 and S2P or BeyondPod, together with BT A2DP.
Don't think it was caused by these great apps, but rather the way Polaris or WindowsPPC handles multi tasking
Will be returning the 8gb SDHC soon for a replacement.
Any ideas on how to prevent this from happening again ?
(other than not running multiple apps at the same time)
Thx
BTW, i'm running windows 6.0, the original HTC polaris rom
Also have a Scandisk 8gb card in my Polaris...
Problems im suffering is that now and then the storage card looses connection.... I can not see it on my mobile and also its not showing up using ActiveSync.
It happens really often and mostly when im using software that depends on it like IGO. The application crashes because it can not access the files needed.
Ive read somewhere that this only happens with scandisk cards so im considering buying a kingston card.. can anyone verify this??
Well the best thing is to make sure, you safely remove your hardware before removing the sd card from the pc or otherwise change the device settings of the memory card to "optimize for quick removal" in the device manager
I recently switched from a non-sdhc card (1 GB) to a SDHC 4GB kingston.
weirdest of all things is that i lose certain applications, but not all!
For instance i have TomTOm installed. Stopped functioning and lost the icon. But SK Tools still works. :S
I'm not very happy with this, since i use my phone ALOT with TomTom and all the other apps i installed on it. Especially at work.
Gonna try the artemis sd fix... Hope it works.
Could it be that you'd made a rom-upgrade with the sd-card in the phone? I had the same problem - lost files on sd-card - with the original 1GB-Card and a new 4-GB-SDHC. I think (and hope) that leaving the card while upgrading has reasoned this issue. After reformating the card in the pda the problem has gone for me . Thank you for your answers...
Steffen
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Could it be that you'd made a rom-upgrade with the sd-card in the phone? I had the same problem - lost files on sd-card - with the original 1GB-Card and a new 4-GB-SDHC. I think (and hope) that leaving the card while upgrading has reasoned this issue. After reformating the card in the pda the problem has gone for me . Thank you for your answers...
Steffen
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Yes, i actually did leave the card while upgrading. But i didn't lose any data until a few days AFTER the upgrade. And i frequently soft-reset the device.
I solved my problem (i think) by deleting 'program files' on the storage card and making a new 'program files' folder. It works for a few day now. (keeps fingers crossed)
I did a ROM upgrade (udK Diamond R7) without the microSDHC card, and yesterday night I lost all my files for the nth time.
The space remains used. I was listening to a podcast (that was stored into the card), and suddenly, when I ran the File Explorer to do something, all the files were missing. The podcast played correctly, but when I tried to re-open it, the file could not be found.
I'm feed up with this problem. It is like having no card at all...
Please, we need somebody to fix it. Is it happening to other brands of only Sandisk?
Thanks.
I simply turned my phone off. Then back on again and storage card had turned into storage card 2. Everything I had on the card was lost. So I carried on using the card and now its storage card 3 and the data from when it was called card 2 is now lost.
copilot often asks me to insert map data.
Ive found that if I remove the card and close all programs before I turn the phone off I dont lose data.
O2 told me to send it in for replacement. That was months ago. Not had chance yet. Might be too late!?
udk's r7 must be faulty, i lost my destinator files 2 times and dawg i didnt took a backup for quite some time. no favorites for me now :<
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udk's r7 must be faulty, i lost my destinator files 2 times and dawg i didnt took a backup for quite some time. no favorites for me now :<
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Do you mean that the problem might be the cooked ROM? Maybe we can isolate the problem with this approach.
Hello everyone,
i own a Raphael since January and in this time it allready killed 2 SD-Cards.
The first one about 4 months ago.
Suddenly in the middle of usage the Raphael froze and i could not get it started again. even after a hardreset it was stuck in the bootscreen.
after a lot of trying and finally removing the sd card it bootet again without a problem.
the card was not readable anymore in any of my devices or windows boxes.
i thougth myself. well can happen even when a card is only half a year old got a new 8GB card and forgot about the incident.
yesterday while listening to some podcast suddenly the sound died. taking out the phone i found out it did not reacted to any power button presses or anything the screen stayed black.
after a softreset the phone worked again but took about 5 minutes to get in a usable state and the programms installed on the sd card where not aviable anymore.
taking a closer look i found that the card was not displayed in file explorer anymore.
gave it a try with my mp3 player. same result no card was found.
today in the morning i gave it a try on the pc with an sd-adabter. but also no result, wondows does not even recocnizes any device being plugged in. tryed a few data recover tools but non of them found the card.
someone has similiar experiances or any tips how i could get my data back from the card?
i guess the phone has to be send back for maintainance, but i doubt that they will find anything, if they accept it at all.
I have changed 4 sd cards because of similar problems. But the problem is most likely because of the fragility of high capacity microSDs, I wouldn't blame Raphael. Try other manufacturers (and try to find the ones that are not just rebranded)
I've had many issues with sd card corruption, but have solved some of the issues. Here's my advice (fwiw):
1. Get a card scanner, and regularly scan your catd. I do it everyday (takes 5 min). I use Wizcode Scandisk. It fixes errors and dumps out files that can be opened in notepad. It's worth looking at them, as it helped me find the multiple sources of corruption that I had.
2. Don't put your PIE cache on the card.
3. Change all 'save' paths (esp. the camera) to main memory.
4. Store any programs you use a lot on main memory.
5. Do NOT have any programs that run constantly on the sd card.
6. Do NOT put Fingerkeyboard on the sd card (major problem for me).
Basically, my advice is to use sd cards for storage. The Raphael has a lot of memory-use it for programs. I haven't had to format my card in about 4 months. I was doing it every couple of weeks for a while.
well basically i was using my sd card as a storage place for movies and podcast + podcastplayer prog.
and was using the player more or less the whole day.
i used the same card (and the other one before) also in my mp3 player when the raphael or the bt headset run out of power and there is no power outlet aviable to recharge. and twice the card failed in the rapahel.
when i got a new card, i also found that the card is working 100% on pc and mp3 player, but the raphael still can not see any sd card.
i really blame the phone and also assume that it now has a defective reader.
have to give it back to repairs as soon i have flashed the original firmware and make my way back to the store
You should scan the disk to find out the error sources. It may be something simple that causing them. Also, if your phone freezes when listening to music, you may want to either wait it out, or remove the card before soft resetting. You should do some searches on card corruption. There are lots of threads here that can be helpful.
many Sdcard and usbStick manufacturers got lowlevel format tools you can download and get cards not otherwise working in cardreaders on pc back to life
would love to get those cards working again. but i also would love to get the data back that was on them.
but the problem is the cards do not even appear on the pc, or any other device i have that can read/write them (usb card reader, digi cam, mp3 player)
its just as if nothing is ever inserted in the reader.
the low level format tools don't rely on windows driver model to detect cards
Flash Format (cnetx) has always been able to re-format my card, even when my pc couldn't recognize it and neither could my fuze. It has a free trial that works fine.
I haven't experienced any of these issues myself. But I'm sure I will now that I said that....
i gave that flash format a try, but it even failed to install. was one of those weird .exe installers. on the pc side it told me install was sucessfull, but on the ppc side was just a promt "installation failed".
a cab install would be nice, but without a working cardreader in the phone i guess would also not be of much help. i guess cuz of that that prog will not help me much. the reader in the phone is broken. cant read any cards, even brand new unused ones that are fine everywhere else just dont show up on the phone.
as for other "low level format tools" my search was quite unsecessful. i was looking at the sandisk and the transcend page (the suppliers of my 3 cards) but could not find anything.
google just found more request for this kind of program but not really somewhere where i could get it.
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i gave that flash format a try, but it even failed to install. was one of those weird .exe installers. on the pc side it told me install was sucessfull, but on the ppc side was just a promt "installation failed".
a cab install would be nice, but without a working cardreader in the phone i guess would also not be of much help. i guess cuz of that that prog will not help me much. the reader in the phone is broken. cant read any cards, even brand new unused ones that are fine everywhere else just dont show up on the phone.
as for other "low level format tools" my search was quite unsecessful. i was looking at the sandisk and the transcend page (the suppliers of my 3 cards) but could not find anything.
google just found more request for this kind of program but not really somewhere where i could get it.
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Check C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\CNETX-you'll find the cab in there. There will be several-you want the PPC-Arm one. It should install fine.
Card Freeze
Yeah I had the same thing happen. Raphael would not boot unless I removed the card and as soon as I placed the card back into the sd slot it would lock up. Unlike you I was able to get on of my PCs (either the XP Pro or the Vista Pro) to recognize it but all I could do was format it.
OK I like the idea of moving all the data to the main however I'm an old Windows CE guy (yeah I had a Jornado) and the memory used to be shared between program and storage. The device would allocate from the other when more was needed. If I place all the stuff I want into the Raphael main memory won't that lower the amount of RAM I have for running programs or vice versa? I really don't know if the memory is fluid since all I get when I look into the memory is one listing total storage and one total program, there is no slider bar like there used to be in windows ce.
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Yeah I had the same thing happen. Raphael would not boot unless I removed the card and as soon as I placed the card back into the sd slot it would lock up. Unlike you I was able to get on of my PCs (either the XP Pro or the Vista Pro) to recognize it but all I could do was format it.
OK I like the idea of moving all the data to the main however I'm an old Windows CE guy (yeah I had a Jornado) and the memory used to be shared between program and storage. The device would allocate from the other when more was needed. If I place all the stuff I want into the Raphael main memory won't that lower the amount of RAM I have for running programs or vice versa? I really don't know if the memory is fluid since all I get when I look into the memory is one listing total storage and one total program, there is no slider bar like there used to be in windows ce.
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The storage memory on the device is flash, not ram, so you don't lose program memory changing the save paths to main memory (if that's what you meant by moving data to main memory).
I never had any issues with my storage cards (sd and cf) on my 2003 device. I don't think it was the device, but rather the cards. The big, 16 gb cards just seem to be less hardy than a 1-2 gb card. I had all my apps on the storage card (including stuff like magic button), and never had a problem. But, jeez, the 16 g microsd is sensitive as hell. It gets minor bits of corruption at least once a week. I scan it everyday to avoid it crashing, which has helped, because I've gone 4 months without formatting it. One thing that I've found screws it up royally is doing a lot of file/directory operations over active sync on a pc. I don't know why, but cutting and pasting files from one folder to another in the sd card frequently results in lost clusters. Renaming folders is also a bad idea.
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Well I guess I didn't explain it correctly. According to HTC the RAM is 288MB with a ROM of 512MB. So I'm really confused since according to the start>settings>system>memory the total for my storage and my program = 549MB which is of course more than 288 and 512. So when I load applications into my device and get a choice of main or storage card when it was a large file (some apps I use were 14 megs or more) I would choose the storage card.
My old experience with Windows CE was whatever memory was on the device was shared with both the program and storage, so I would put as much as possible on my storage card. However in windows 6.1 or higher it lists two separate columns for Program and Storage with: Total, In Use, and Free. So when I install apps I presumed they went into the storage area. Am I mistaken? I figured Program on the device meant how much is currently in use. Kinda like opening multiple windows on a PC. I notice it's low when at once I have 4 applications open on my windows mobile device so that's what I thought Program memory was.
Therefore does installing to the Main, when given a choice during program installation. where does it get installed ROM, RAM? Why is my total memory higher than RAM or the ROM
Any insight would help me decide the best location for my program installation to not corrupt the data, or have the flash card screw me up either.
288 MB is the total amount of system ram. A large amount is not user-accessible, it's used by the kernel/OS/Page-pool, so you don't see it reported. It's still there, though. The rom memory is 512 MB, but the actual memory in rom is subtracted by the storage memory so you see the amount of user-available memory. With 2003 devices, if the battery ran down, you lost all of your data, because the storage memory was in RAM (except perhaps for a little flash disk space). But with a fuze, you can pull the battery out, and not lose your data.
Totally confused
OK your right about the 2003 devices which is why I placed most of my stuff on a storage card. However why is my total reported memory 549MB more than the 512 ROM? Also when I install stuff to the device where does it get stored, the 512 ROM? Are you saying that the 200mb of Program being shown is 288 RAM minus the 88 being used to run the OS?
So are you saying its safe to install all my apps onto the device and I won't lose anything if the battery runs out?
Yeah, I've been saying that for about 3 weeks, lol! They got rid of the volatile storage memory with winmo 5; we're onto 6.5 now, and it's a thing of the distant past. I you don't believe me, pull out your battery (there's no backup battery on the device) and see if it causes a hard reset.
This is not an uncommon problem with digital cameras, as well. It's complicated, but the bottom line is this: whenever you buy an SD/micro SDHC/etc. card, you should do a full format of it on your COMPUTER, then put it in your device.
Hi people,everithing was workin fine until last week.I have igo8 installed on my memory card(Kingston 8gb)for about 4-5months and before some days makes me crazy,everytime i start it the aplication ask me to install it :O and to use the navigation i was forced to make all the steps everytime .I format Memory Card and install igo 8 again,no problems until yesterday,igo icon was blank and when i tap on it the phone freeze .I think the problem is in neotouch but i hope is in memory card or igo8.What do you think people?
here is screenshot of igo8 icon http://img80.imageshack.us/i/screen001ua.png/
same thing happens to me ,with other programm(Vito Notes).
i think it has to do with the s200 reading the SD.
Most definite it's a problem while reading the memory card. First step reboot and try again. Second step: Check the memory card in another computer. Third step: Remove any software which might "grab" the card handler. Hope that helps.
I always make all these steps without the last one.What you mean with "Remove any software which might "grab" the card handler"?And one more thing,when i check the files in IGO folder i found something crazy,files that i cant delete :O,here is the screenshot
Ouch. That looks like a corrupted file system on your card. If you got a valid backup from your card you should reformat the memory card and then copy all files back onto it. If not, backup all files (which are still readable) to a PC and then reformat the card, copy all other valid files back and reinstall the missing files.
Answer to the "grab" statement: Programs like CardExport or any other program which allows reading the memory card via USB connection will hide the memory card from your device while active by "grabbing" access to the memory card.
"That looks like a corrupted file system on your card".Yes,i think you are right.This is not the first time this happening,maybe is better to buy another card,because i format the card 3-4 times and have problems everytime?
Yes. It's not worth the trouble to use the faulty memory card any longer. (Life is too short ). Good luck.
Thanks,i will bye another one probably SanDisk i never had any problem whit.Now i am using Kingston and dont recommend it!Thanks again for helping me