Has anyone got this Bolt-On from O2?
I'm interested in having constant access to the Net (or rather downloading stuff like Weather updates and uploading/downloading GPS positions on a live tracking system as well as MSN Messnger, email, etc.)
Does anyone have any statistics on what you can roughly do before they start to charge?
Is there a way to say, NOT use the net if you've reached a certain limit or up/download etc or some way of monitoring your monthly usage?
I'm with T-Mobile atm so no knowledge of this, but to monitor web usage I'd use Battery Status (can't find a link right now, but a quick google should find it). I think you can set a monthly limit in it, but not sure exactly.
Cheers mate, will look at BatteryStatus.
They dont have a limit on there internet usage anymore with there package, at over £35 a month you can have unlimted internet (what i have) and below £35 a month the bolt on is 7.50 a month extra.
last month i downloaded almost 300meg on my phone no problem.
I was told by O2 they no longer have a fair usage policy either, only an excessive use which means that they will warn you if your using it to much first, and the guy from o2 said that excessive use means that you will be affecting other users. So basically you cant go wrong.
I use mine to for weather, all my email including attachments, downloading mp3s & movies, watching youtube.
Never had a problem.
loomx, that's good to know. Thanks for that.
I'm on a £35pm contract, but only paying £25pm (o2's problems last year, I was gonna close the account but they convinced me to stay so got a good deal).
But I certainly won't be downloading/uploading a lot. Just live GPS tracking, weather updates, emails (nobody loves me that much so only a couple a day!! )
But that's good to know, thanks.
Yes, I have the bolt on. My phone checks emails every 15mins and I surf the internet sometimes. Never used more than 100MB a month.
I use the gpsd monitor software that came with your phone.
same here, using around 200 meg a month according to the free GPRS monitor software, and all fine. I've got POP3 checking every 15 mins, MSN Messenger on permanently, check a few sites every day, works great. (Had to switch off HSDPA though as my battery was suffering!)
There's no point in HSDPA on o2 personal non business contracts capped at 128kbps anyway
I have the bolt-on and I've no idea how much data I use, and don't care unless o2 send me an SMS
I took the free bolt-on with my upgrade and I made sure that I double checked the online terms and conditions and then again with their staff.
There is no download limit!
The restrictions are that you cannot use skype, IPSMS or other such features and you cannot connect another device to use your internet connection.
If you download 5Gb of video from the YouTube, thats fine
If you let your PC download 1Mb of videos from YouTube you are in breach
If you use skype thats a breach as well.
Biomehanika said:
I took the free bolt-on with my upgrade and I made sure that I double checked the online terms and conditions and then again with their staff.
There is no download limit!
The restrictions are that you cannot use skype, IPSMS or other such features and you cannot connect another device to use your internet connection.
If you download 5Gb of video from the YouTube, thats fine
If you let your PC download 1Mb of videos from YouTube you are in breach
If you use skype thats a breach as well.
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That’s good news BTW is that on a business or consumer tariff ?
Thats on the consumer tariff!
I have the bolt-on. I have only just started using it so I cannot comment on throughput. I will on occasion be using the internet sharing to hook-up my laptop but only a couple of weekends a year.
If they catch me I guess I'll suffer a warning or something, shan't be putting a lot through it anyway.
I have occasionally used internet sharing on my T-Mobile Web and walk pass which is not supposed to be used for tethering etc. Even after I download a few ROMs T-Mobile made no comment.
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Hi, I want to take on an xda via orange.
I'd be using the gprs for accessing web page data and wondered whether there's any way of estimating what useage levels I may hit?
I guess I can get some data from my b'band provider (BT OPenworld) and run a rough comparision but do page impressions via gprs / xda work out about the same mb count as via PC / broadband?
I ran a search but couldn't see this on the forum; apologies if it's been questioned b4
Thanks all
Charles
CharlesJS said:
Hi, I want to take on an xda via orange.
I'd be using the gprs for accessing web page data and wondered whether there's any way of estimating what useage levels I may hit?
I guess I can get some data from my b'band provider (BT OPenworld) and run a rough comparision but do page impressions via gprs / xda work out about the same mb count as via PC / broadband?
I ran a search but couldn't see this on the forum; apologies if it's been questioned b4
Thanks all
Charles
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http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/gprsmonitor/?en
This proramme does a good job, but unfortunately not free, can sometimes affect alarms by disabling notifications tho :wink:
thanks, chop. But I was thinking more along the lines of somehow estimating in advance based upon my current useage.
I recollect somewhere a quote that an average web page is 50k of data so if you're going to be accessing 20 pages that'd be 50x20 ie 1000k of data.
I guess I can change contracts and bundles if I need to anyhow?
if you want anything near that you need to make sure it dont display pictures i mean 1 picture would be larger then 50K
Okay so here's the deal. I'm a BlackBerry to Android convert and I miss my BBM. So my new project is a BBM for the Android. I won't promise that I'll actually get it to work but I have every intention of it. So here's what I want to know: What do you all want in it?
What do you think would be a good name? The more professional the better obviously. I want the messenger to be taken seriously. (I'm pretty much clueless here, I suck with names. Read my screen name, you'll understand.)
What functions do you want to have? (EX. Location parameter where the messenger tells you when you're close to a friend.)
Let me know what you want out of it. For the moment I'm creating an outline of the functions that I plan for it to have which are as follows:
Messaging
- Sent over Internet connection not via text message
- Threading (Bubbles, divisions)
- See sent/delivered/read status
- Group Chat (Without Invite)
- Group Chat (With Invite)
Contacts
- Ability to add standard contacts
- Unique Pin to each divice
- - Barcode Scanner to add contacts
Status Updates
- Ability (Choice) to sync with twitter/facebook
- Show current music selection
- Show Busy/Available Orb
- Sync Busy/Available Status with Google calendar
Location Settings
- Update/Share Location with other contacts
- Ping/Alert of Contacts near you
- Show all contacts on map
Maybe Added
- Video Chat
(I don't really have a way to test this since I only have a Droid Eris but I'll see what I can do after I get a nice stable app.)
What other suggestions do you have?
And yes I'm aware of the messengers like pingchat and Hello so stop telling me to use those please.
Current Suggested Names:
A2M - Android - Android Messenger (A^2 M. When it was explained to me it was like A squared (A^2 = AA))
ADM - Android Messenger
ARC - Android Relay Chat
DMA - Droid Messenger App
DAM - Droid Alert Messenger (probably won't be used because of abbreviation)
DRC - Droid Relay Chat
ADM is the obvious choice but I was hoping for something more unique/catchy...whatever. Please keep suggesting names. I'm working on the app every free moment I have.
In most likely hood the first beta will be on my Droid and those of my friends so I can see it first hand (how it behaves, speed, battery drain etc.) and not release a defective pile of code. Pretty much everybody will see this on the market rather than me posting it here but I may do both. I don't know. We'll see when that time comes. For the mean time I'll make a beta list anyway.
Beta Test List:
Pretty much anyone that asks
As for those who have said that they hope I go through with this: I will. It's going to take a while. I work full time and I'm a full time college student. This may not happen soon but it will happen.
Oh this would be awesome! I would use it.
Not trying to be a downer, but don't we already have this... gtalk?
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Not trying to be a downer, but don't we already have this... gtalk?
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Yeah I suppose, but personally, I'm just not a fan of Gtalk.
I may sound conceited saying this but, I liked then fact that BBM was pretty much exclusive to the BlackBerry. I miss that exclusivity. Everyone can use Gtalk.
Plus Gtalk doesn't have all of the features that I intend to add.
But you're not the first person to say that I and do see the point
I'd definitely give it a try too. I was a die-hard blackberry addict as well and BBM was a great tool to have. One major benefit was how fast it was (unless BB servers were down) In your app I'd hope to see high speed from phone to phone. Good luck!
i dig it.
im all for it.
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I'd definitely give it a try too. I was a die-hard blackberry addict as well and BBM was a great tool to have. One major benefit was how fast it was (unless BB servers were down) In your app I'd hope to see high speed from phone to phone. Good luck!
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The reason BBM was so fast was that it totally bypasses the public Internet and goes straight through RIM's servers.
Honestly, Talk/Latitude. Without a private network such as BIS, there is zero practical advantage to such a system. Building an exclusive club just to feel special is childish and a waste of talent.
ConstantineXVI said:
The reason BBM was so fast was that it totally bypasses the public Internet and goes straight through RIM's servers.
Honestly, Talk/Latitude. Without a private network such as BIS, there is zero practical advantage to such a system. Building an exclusive club just to feel special is childish and a waste of talent.
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Everything is a matter of perception I suppose. You see it as a waste of talent, I see it as putting a talent to use. If you read the comments, there are several in favor of the idea. Maybe they along with myself simply just don't know better, but it doesn't hurt to try does it?
If I can use what I have to make a useful tool then I will. I'm not promising anything from this. It may work and it may not. I simply want a messenger that has as much functionality as the BBM. It's not totally about exclusivity. I freely admit that if it were solely for that reason, it would be a childish motive, but it's about having something that can increase productivity as well.
uhhh you might want to check out hellomessenger. It's already available for blackberry and iPhone (even supports BIS on the blackberry), and a public beta for Android should be out soon...
anyways just my two cents. I wanted to write the same thing till I found out about hellomessenger. No point reinventing the wheel
*EDIT* errr my bad.. you already know about hellomessenger.
I would use this!!!! I love this idea!
Write an app that supports Yahoo, AIM, MSN, and Jabber (GTalk, Facebook, etc) and STAYS CONNECTED and doesn't use a boatload of data/battery. I don't care about much else as long as the client itself is designed decently.
I'd just use a Jabber client with connectors but Jabber still isn't very mobile friendly in terms of data usage, therefore battery usage.
And to stay connected and not use a lot of data almost requires a central server which proxies the connections.. Even if you lose connectivity on the phone for a moment (or minutes) your stay online and get connections.. And the central server handles all of the ping/pong, presence, all that nonsense that moves significant data.
I still miss Verichat on PalmOS. It was almost perfect.
kwazi said:
uhhh you might want to check out hellomessenger. It's already available for blackberry and iPhone (even supports BIS on the blackberry), and a public beta for Android should be out soon...
anyways just my two cents. I wanted to write the same thing till I found out about hellomessenger. No point reinventing the wheel
*EDIT* errr my bad.. you already know about hellomessenger.
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Haha Yup
I already know but it's still a valid point
khaytsus said:
Write an app that supports Yahoo, AIM, MSN, and Jabber (GTalk, Facebook, etc) and STAYS CONNECTED and doesn't use a boatload of data/battery. I don't care about much else as long as the client itself is designed decently.
I'd just use a Jabber client with connectors but Jabber still isn't very mobile friendly in terms of data usage, therefore battery usage.
And to stay connected and not use a lot of data almost requires a central server which proxies the connections.. Even if you lose connectivity on the phone for a moment (or minutes) your stay online and get connections.. And the central server handles all of the ping/pong, presence, all that nonsense that moves significant data.
I still miss Verichat on PalmOS. It was almost perfect.
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Are you trying to say you want a multi-chat client which stays connected all the time but doesn't use a lot of data/battery?
Having the data network connection or wifi connection will drain battery... So having it connected all the time will drain "boatload" of battery...
Thats why apps have a sync option... where they sync every x minutes or hours... the more time between syncs the less data and battery life used.
Simple.
The latest beta of the WhatsApp uses Android Push (C2DM) ... It does not poll
So yes, it does not drain battery "unless" a message is pushed
sintaku said:
Are you trying to say you want a multi-chat client which stays connected all the time but doesn't use a lot of data/battery?
Having the data network connection or wifi connection will drain battery... So having it connected all the time will drain "boatload" of battery...
Thats why apps have a sync option... where they sync every x minutes or hours... the more time between syncs the less data and battery life used.
Simple.
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Ok not to be the one who really is a downer here but if you are a talented app dev I would spend your time elsewhere, for all those on this thread, I read about an app that does this the other day. Delivery/Read icons, group chats, send files, images etc. Called PingChat. Reviewer says main issue is getting people on it. This is cross platform as well. I can't post a link yet so look up pingchat
sintaku said:
Are you trying to say you want a multi-chat client which stays connected all the time but doesn't use a lot of data/battery?
Having the data network connection or wifi connection will drain battery... So having it connected all the time will drain "boatload" of battery...
Thats why apps have a sync option... where they sync every x minutes or hours... the more time between syncs the less data and battery life used.
Simple.
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Nonsense. An idle data network connection = No drain. Wifi I don't use. I already have K9 Mail, Weather, etc syncing...
What I was asking for, which I thought was abundantly clear, was one which filters most traffic and only talks to the client or the client talks to the server as necessary and the server side otherwise handles the bulk of the normal traffic.
And there are IM apps with a "sync" option? Really? Name one.
as long as is compatible with bbm pin #
raul1905 said:
as long as is compatible with bbm pin #
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RIM won't like that
They wan't BBM to stay exclusive on BB's ofcourse. I know it's bull****, but that's the way they sell so they won't ever give up the rights to BBM. If you wan't to connect with BB users, you have to make this app cross-platform like pingchat or whatsapp.
so if there is already pingchat and whatsapp.. then why make another one?
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as long as is compatible with bbm pin #
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Won't happen. BBM is closed protocol and goes over RIM's servers....nothing else can connect to it. Otherwise someone would have made an app with this functionality already.
Hi there people, I'm new to all this and have just got an LG Optimus One.
I was having a play with it last night at work and found an open wi fi connection. If I was to use this would it be traceable back to me?
Had a quick look around your site and I think I will be spending quite a bit of time here. Rooting (!) sounds like fun and I maybe giving it a go later.
It could be a honey pot(it could be recording everything)... I wouldn't use it for anything private... logins, passwords etc..
It's very hard, if not impossible, to be traced when using an open wifi. Unless of course the traffic is monitored, as stated by the previous poster, and you provide personal information through the connection. Otherwise, the access point only records your phone's MAC address, which cannot be used to personally identify you.
Thanks for the reply.
I don't think its a honeypot(?)
I work in warehouse in a rural area and it gets pretty quiet at times - especially on night shift and weekends. The 3g reception is poor. I was hoping to be able to browse the web (maybe 420/adult sites) as well as app market and downloads to help pass the time and save my data allowance.
I'm not too genned up on computors and I don't know what an 'administrator' would be able to see on a report. Would they be able to see specific sites and would they be able to pin it down to a certain device and its owner?
loonytoon, thanks. You replied while I was typing.
So it' ll be pretty much anonymous if I don't login to anything?
S_punkE said:
loonytoon, thanks. You replied while I was typing.
So it' ll be pretty much anonymous if I don't login to anything?
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Yup, pretty much.
I have a HTC Evo 4g on the Sprint network and I was going to change my plan to a cheaper one and just add on unlimited data but they have 2 different data plans.
Data Pack - $15/mo./line
Includes:
Email
Take your email along for instant access virtually wherever you go. Enjoy the freedom and flexibility to access multiple accounts on your phone AOL, Windows Live Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail and more so you'll never miss the latest news, info, invitations and alerts.
Music
Take your personal soundtrack to the office, to the gym or on the road for 24/7 access to your favorite tracks.
Sprint TV®
Sprint TV®Sprint continues to provide a wide variety of programming including full-length episodes of hit shows from ABC, NBC, and CBS as well as news, weather, sports and exclusive content.
Web surfing
Web surfingTake the Internet with you - in the car, around town or across the country.
and
Pro Pack - $30/mo./line
Includes:
Email
Take your email along for instant access virtually wherever you go. Enjoy the freedom and flexibility to access multiple accounts on your phone AOL, Windows Live Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail and more so you'll never miss the latest news, info, invitations and alerts.
Music
Take your personal soundtrack to the office, to the gym or on the road for 24/7 access to your favorite tracks.
Pictures
Capture memorable moments with your camera-enabled phone.
Sprint TV®
Sprint TV®Sprint continues to provide a wide variety of programming including full-length episodes of hit shows from ABC, NBC, and CBS as well as news, weather, sports and exclusive content.
Text
Need to schedule plans in a flash? Have a quick question and no time to waste? Or, do you need to reach someone when you know they can't talk?
Video
Interesting things happen when you least expect them. You can capture these unexpected moments with short video clips that you can view, store and send to friends and family.
Web surfing
Web surfingTake the Internet with you - in the car, around town or across the country.
I want the 15$ a month data pack, but will I really lose the ability to take pictures and video with my phone? Or is just refering to the ability to share the pictures/videos via internet? The pictures/videos get saved to the SD card, so why would I need a data plan to use my camera? I would be knocking 15$ off my bill per month, so choosing the 30$ data plan is pointless.
I have search the market place for a possible camera app that may by pass this, but I couldn't find anything. I do have a rooted Evo running Cm7 Rc2, so any info on a camera app would be great! Thanks for reading .
1st time i heard this issue.dont know that need data plan to use camera.
but u already got custom rom.sure can use camera without data plan.
maybe the pro data plan is for uploading pic and video to web/hosting as it will take more data.
under18 said:
1st time i heard this issue.dont know that need data plan to use camera.
but u already got custom rom.sure can use camera without data plan.
maybe the pro data plan is for uploading pic and video to web/hosting as it will take more data.
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That's what I'm thinking, I just wasn't sure since it's not very clear in the description, and I couldn't find much info on it. I was just hoping someone knows a little bit more on this topic to clear up things up before I lose my camera haha. Thanks for the quick reply, appreciate it ^.^
Yeah, if it made you lose your camera then that would mean you would also lose it if you had bad signal or had data turned off.
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Obviously he didn't flash cm7 himself. I don't like to insult people looking for advice on here but there's no way someone that is that big of an idiot installed a custom rom himself. Take out your sim card boot up your phone. See camera works just fine. I'm surprised you don't have to ask for help everytime you want to turn it on.
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Obviously he didn't flash cm7 himself. I don't like to insult people looking for advice on here but there's no way someone that is that big of an idiot installed a custom rom himself. Take out your sim card boot up your phone. See camera works just fine. I'm surprised you don't have to ask for help everytime you want to turn it on.
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Wow, that was nice of you.
First of all, the Evo doesn't have a sim card. Good try, though.
Second, while I agree it seems like a dumb question, the differences are there in the description. I'm fairly certain it's only the sharing part, or a ruse on Sprint's end to get people to get the larger package.
OP, call Sprint and ask them...but not from your Evo. They'll check your phone's info when you call & see the ROM version.
Also, Sprint requires at least the $69.99 plan for the Evo + the $10 premium data charge, so you shouldn't need a data package. If you bought your phone off contract I believe this isn't the case.
Kaymor said:
I have a HTC Evo 4g on the Sprint network and I was going to change my plan to a cheaper one and just add on unlimited data but they have 2 different data plans.
Data Pack - $15/mo./line
Includes:
Email
Take your email along for instant access virtually wherever you go. Enjoy the freedom and flexibility to access multiple accounts on your phone AOL, Windows Live Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail and more so you'll never miss the latest news, info, invitations and alerts.
Music
Take your personal soundtrack to the office, to the gym or on the road for 24/7 access to your favorite tracks.
Sprint TV®
Sprint TV®Sprint continues to provide a wide variety of programming including full-length episodes of hit shows from ABC, NBC, and CBS as well as news, weather, sports and exclusive content.
Web surfing
Web surfingTake the Internet with you - in the car, around town or across the country.
and
Pro Pack - $30/mo./line
Includes:
Email
Take your email along for instant access virtually wherever you go. Enjoy the freedom and flexibility to access multiple accounts on your phone AOL, Windows Live Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail and more so you'll never miss the latest news, info, invitations and alerts.
Music
Take your personal soundtrack to the office, to the gym or on the road for 24/7 access to your favorite tracks.
Pictures
Capture memorable moments with your camera-enabled phone.
Sprint TV®
Sprint TV®Sprint continues to provide a wide variety of programming including full-length episodes of hit shows from ABC, NBC, and CBS as well as news, weather, sports and exclusive content.
Text
Need to schedule plans in a flash? Have a quick question and no time to waste? Or, do you need to reach someone when you know they can't talk?
Video
Interesting things happen when you least expect them. You can capture these unexpected moments with short video clips that you can view, store and send to friends and family.
Web surfing
Web surfingTake the Internet with you - in the car, around town or across the country.
I want the 15$ a month data pack, but will I really lose the ability to take pictures and video with my phone? Or is just refering to the ability to share the pictures/videos via internet? The pictures/videos get saved to the SD card, so why would I need a data plan to use my camera? I would be knocking 15$ off my bill per month, so choosing the 30$ data plan is pointless.
I have search the market place for a possible camera app that may by pass this, but I couldn't find anything. I do have a rooted Evo running Cm7 Rc2, so any info on a camera app would be great! Thanks for reading .
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SUCH A BULL****! WHO TOLD YOU THIS? DID YOUR PHONE COMPANY REALLY DO THIS? You can use the camera without simcard and everything the only thing i see is that the camera enables the Geotag feature but i don't think so!
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With mango...wp7 brings lot of new features and enhancements....
for exampel the people tile updates show lot of people photos from (facebook, live messenger, linkedin etc...)....fetching facebook/twitter/linkedin/messenger updates happens alot too..
there isn't any app or built in functionality to calculate the data usage (unless your carrier has an wp7 app)...
so i was wondering hows the data usage on mango?
Yes, i guess this is really one of the big things missing in Mango. It is especially annoying when i go outside the country, i have 150 mb for roaming every month and wp7 mango doesnt allow me to see how much im using, i hope that with the new SDK new apps with this functionality come out to the marketplace,.
I agree, a bandwidth monitoring application will be really useful.
Also the cellular data connection and WiFi bandwidth usage should be split.
What would be even more awesome is if we can get a breakdown of how much each application/service has used.
eg. IE has used 90MB on WiFI and 20MB on 3G, XDA Dev app has used 5MB on WiFi etc.
I think this is a must have app for smartphone users so please vote for this feature here
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...285936-api-for-accessing-data-usage?ref=title