Just a thought - has any manufacturer sold a phone/pda with a "built in" bluetooth headset?
Was just thinking about it and I reckon it would certainly be feasible (but would need clever marketing).
take a phone, especially one the size of a PDA and where the earpiece is, you have a slide out, narrow/thin format BT headset.
When in the phone/pda the headset is powered and directly connected to the device, adnd thus acts just like a normal earpiece within the phone.
When out of the phone, it's powered by an internal battery (charged from the phone), and acts just like a normal, simple, headset. The act of pulling the headset out of it's slot could also be the signal for answering a call, turning on voice dialling or whatever (software setable), and vice versa.
Obviously there'd be some drawbacks - short battery life (can be lived with/improved over time), the phone/pda would need sufficient depth (shouldn't really be an issue), and it's added complexity and cost. But if it was suitably well designed and marketed I think there's a market out there.
I for one find it very annoying that the greatest use of the phone/pda, namely having a diary/mini PC, and a phone in one device, is destroyed in one instant by the realisation that you can't use it in both ways at once, UNLESS you buy a seperate item, or use the wired earpiece (irritating).
Also BT headsets are even smaller than phones ever were and are prone to being mislaid, damaged etc very easily - by storing it in the phone body you have a safeguard.
I think I saw a concept design of a phone for children that had this feature, although I've thought of it before now, but it's good that it's occurred to someone else! (prooves I'm not totally mad!)
Any opinions?
Disposable sticker headset? Pre-charged, used as a tatoo on one side of the face?
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Hi People,
I'm looking to get potentially 3 Bluetooth Headsets for XDAII (for staff)
And I don't want any moaning once I get them that the quality is bad
Could you post your personal experiences of ones you have purchased and are using please. Would like some recommendations if possible.
I have a Sony-Erricsson HBH-35. Works like a charm.
No rebonding, it reconnects wether you'r out of range, the phone or headset has been switched off etc...
I have a Motorola HS810.
It's nice and small (even with the boom open). The audio quality is excelent. However, what really nags me is that it takes too long to boot the device when you open the boom, so that in most occasions it takes too long to connect to the XDA and I can't pick up a call in time.
Also, sometimes it simply doesn't connect to the device after I pick up a call on the XDA and I can't transfer the call to the headset.
Anyone with the same problems with this headset ?
My HBH65 works absolutely perfectly with the XDA2. Original XDA2 radio & Bluetooth stack - just as it came out of the box. I *never* need to rebond the two devices, even if they're switched off, out of range or whatever, and I can walk around my (small) house using the headset and leave the XDA2 on the desk.
Only criticism is the battery life on the HBH65, which is pants. I have to charge it every other day, at best, without much useage.
Still, it's *very* comfortable and the sound quality and volume is good in quiet environments. In the car it's a struggle, but that could be because I have a car with a 6 litre engine and no exhaust silencers...
I have a Jabra 250
Works perfect, never any bonding, or lost call problems, and as set 250 minutes of standby time, very small, and looks really smart. After I bought one, my wife wanted one too.
Thanks for the response all, much appreciated !
I opted for the Sony-Erricsson HBH-35
I got them from expansys and got them the next day! .... they are great. The call quality is excellent. I think the boom helps to eliminate background noise as the mic doesn't have to be too strong.
Now i just need to go to the "using it" forum to find out how to use voice dialing :s
Logitech BT headset is the best !
I really like the Bluespoon Cameleon. Works very well. Only about $100. Much less obtrusive than other Bluetooth headsets. You can change it's colors, which is cool. It's much smaller and lighter than other headsets as well.
It was so good, that I thought I'd go one step further and get the Bluespoon Digital, which I just started using. The Bluespoon Digital seems to get the call transferred instantly (quicker than the Cameleon), and it's about the size as the end of my thumb.
I havn't had the chance to try out the automatic gain control (changes volume of speaker based on ambient noise), or the digital noise cancellation (blocks out slow moving ambient sound).. but those features sound mighty nice!
About bluespoon, I have a pb, seems really good when I make a call but impossible to use it when i receive a call, no transfer to the headset
IamHappy said:
About bluespoon, I have a pb, seems really good when I make a call but impossible to use it when i receive a call, no transfer to the headset
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What's a pb? With the Bluespoons, you press a button on the headset to transfer the call to it.
really doesn't work, dunno why !!!!!
If you have an advice, I'll really appreciate it
HB 35
I too Have the sony ericsson hb 35 top h/set well worth the investment
IamHappy said:
really doesn't work, dunno why !!!!!
If you have an advice, I'll really appreciate it
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Did you try a hard reset of the Bluespoon? Also a soft reset according to the instructions in the manual? After a soft reset you'll have to recreate the bond.
Plantronics M3000 is the best one I could fine. Everyone would always tell me they couldn't hear me. The M3000 sounds very clear, connects as a Bluetooth Device and battery life is around 2 days.
Very small around the ear, no cords, or mess. I like it.
I use jabra and if I have the phone in my pocket, the sound gets tons of static, my a2dp headset tends to skip when the phone is in my pocket, out of the pocket it works perfectly, if I put the phone behind me, thus my body is in between the headset and the phone, i also get tons of static even though the distance is 20 inches.
I tested my 3125 smartphone against the Touch cruise and the 3125 range was three times farther then the touch cruse. Back to mobileplanet this heap of **** goes.
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I use jabra and if I have the phone in my pocket, the sound gets tons of static, my a2dp headset tends to skip when the phone is in my pocket, out of the pocket it works perfectly, if I put the phone behind me, thus my body is in between the headset and the phone, i also get tons of static even though the distance is 20 inches.
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The radio stack on the test ROM makes a HUGE difference
I have the same issue even with the new radio--bluetooth strength much weaker than my old trinity. Wonder if there is a registry setting to boost the signal?
this phone is brutal, with 3g and bluetooth on, I drop calls like no tommorrow,it seems when driving it is even worse. I seen it where it has perfect signal and for no apparent reason, it drops the call. It just gives me three faint beeps when it disconnects. I don't know what it means, also these phones are not assembled well. this sucks for 700 dollar phone, I did try the new radio also, it didn't make no difference other then I didn't get disconnected on 3g as much but bluetooth still sucked, my 3125 I measured again has 3 times the range,just having your hand in between the phone and the headset gets you lot of static on the headset. I sent mine back today. Bluetooth is critical to me,I figure HTC would at least get the bluetooth right but I guess they are a mess right now with all their issues. Hoping to get hp 614 instead.
I am using the Jabra BT3030, works like a charm. This is with the default rom.
Plantronics Explorer 510 here. Absolutely perfect sound.
Parrot MK6100 car HF set. Crap, thin sound reported on the other side. Low volume.
To be more specific- both sony ds200 and itech r35 have good sound, no static but the range is very poor and easily blocked by a human body. The sony sound is much better probably because its bluetooth 2 with a better data rate. The a2dp (only with the sony) needs the "a2dp fix" and a fresh reboot before using in order not to have the drop outs. All told, not much different than with my trinity but with less range. Very disappointing considering price and another year to perfect the system. HTC really does need to work on the drivers and software before selling the device. The average user is not going to go to all this trouble and will be very letdown.
I'm sure a lot of you have thought this over so i wanted to get your opinions.
The other day I was telling a friend about a phone with a 5+ inch screen and got to thinking (I love big screens, cant stand less than 3")... At what point should a person just buy a netbook with a 3g card and use VOIP on a bluetooth headset? I mean, my wife has a MSI Wind and honestly It is small enough I could carry it almost everywhere with me. It also cost less than my phone!!!!. The Wind isn't even one of the smaller ones. It has a 10.2 screen. Look at this one though http://gizmodo.com/5084147/umids-mini-netbook-makes-eees-look-massive (they should have made the screen wider but I guess they were trying to use off the shelf parts to keep it cheap).
I think the lines are definitely blurring and I honestly cant decide what to do for my next phone. A netbook with a 3g router is sounding very tempting. What thoughts do you guys have? or do you plan to just buy both lol.
I'd draw the line where you'd feel like a tit holding a netbook against your head tbh. Phones are for making phonecalls remember
Smartphone's are going to die out soon. Why do I need a Touch HD AND a netbook? I don't, I need a littlebitty Nokia that only phones and texts - discuss...
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it´s true that you can carry them, but even little notebooks can´t be put inside your pants pockets...yet....
It's about convergence, having one device that does it all.
I still see idiots carrying a cellphone, an ipod, and a notebook. And they use the phone to go online with their notebooks via 3G.
I just have my i780 and the extra battery pack (i780s come with an extra batt with a stand alone charger case).. and oh yeah.. I also use it for GPS navigation.
Go for one device that can do it all. Though your need for a big screen will be the deciding factor.
Personally i have all three and carry two, Trinity and iPod, on a regular basis as the battery in my Trinity struggles to last all day sometimes when i am reading and replying to mail let alone trying to listen to music as well. Also my iPod is big enough to hold my entire library so there's no "wish i had that with me today" moments. The notebook is for computing somewhere at a desk/table that isn't my own, usually my parents or friends, and as such usually hooks to their WiFi.
You don't stick the netbook to your ear you use a bluetooth headset. Also some of these netbooks are getting small enough to stick in your pocket! Look at the one I linked.
Battery life would be an issue though. My wifes Wind lasts about 45 mins on battery. Those reviews that claim 2.5 hours are BS. Maybe if you turn the screen on super dim, wifi / bluetooth off, switch on econo-mode and read an ebook. In an even smaller netbook with about the same guts I bet battery life would be horrid.
For me this is the limit line between lap top and phone
I still think we might see a movement away from big phones, or people using two devices but not concurrently. For business use a decent netbook with 3G and bluetooth headset would be ideal, providing someone can actually one day make a battery that lasts a whole day yet doesn't have to be on wheels.
However, as useful as that'd be in work, it's not really a solution for how do I phone my missus to tell her I need to come home from the pub?
So I think a big device (with 3G or similar) for work and a small/tiny device (with radio and nothing else) for play/always. Aren't we at the point of a Bluetooth sized headset that has a phone in it? Or a comedy sized watch - aren't LG launching one soon?
The laptop would need to remain on (idling) the whole time, and they're just not designed for that today. In the end, having a laptop with 3G inside and a bluetooth "phone" or having a basic 3G phone and a laptop is not so different... you always need both parts.
I'm also using both a trinity and a Gigabeat F40. I just don't have the same response quickness, autonomy and storage on my trinity. So unless we get a pdaphone with a real battery life (something like 10 hours under heavy use), with 64GB of storage (it should arrive soon enough) and that doesn't struggle to playback a mp3 while surfing the net, I won't leave my loyal mp3 player at home.
I guess that 1 year from now I may find an appropriate device on the market.
Ok so this question has been issued 3 times on XDA already, and some more on the net. However, noone, on the entire world, seems to have an idea on what to start with.
Why can't my phone act as a headset (bluetooth)?
An Android phone (but could be another OS) has BT drivers, speaker, microphone... all it needs! I undderstand phones are usually designed to be used with a BT headset rather than as a BT headset, but i see many situation where that could be handy:
- two phones (all calls taken from one)
- calling through computer, but handling the phone
- same through tablet
Now, here on XDA there are all kind of skilled hardcore devs. Why nobody ever got the Android BT driver and apps to turn the phone into a headset? Whyyyyy?
Thanks for reading
because they all bought in-ear bluetooth kits and couldn't be bothered.
Why not just buy a logitech 930 and roam the house? Probably a bit better on the head and if you are friend with Beyonce like me, great to hear in 7.1.
Lol, i wonder why every single thread asking this question always gets the same answer: "why not buy a headset?"
Although i understand what you are meaning, this does not answer the original question
Can someone please answer the actual question with technical details or is this subject cursed for life to getting no answer/off topic answers?
Roam the house? Bluetooth has a very short range.
If someone made android headphones that streamed PC stuff over wireless you'd have a far longer range and much better audio quality.
i really need that.... (why not just buy "BT", very meaningless since you are not understand our situation)
For me, HTC Flyer (tablet) x 1, HTC ChaCha x 1, I have hundreds of BT headsets, but dont you think:
1. extermly trouble every day charging for 3 items?
2. to bring 7" tablet, one cellphone and a bt headset more?
3. *** MAJOR PROBLEM*** i have 1 SIM card only (network and phone), with two mobile... if i can put the SIM into Flyer and pick up the phone from ChaCha that will be wonderful.
Kind of like the above poster I have an Android phone with a no data plan, but I have a galaxy tablet with a tablet data plan
So it is an very troublesome to yell at the tab to talk on Skype or Dell voice or other voip.
It would be very good if I can use my phone to act as the headset
I do not want to hang a Bluetooth headset on my ear
So...anyone has any idea?
Hi,
there is a solution you can use the samsung galaxy player 3.6 device with android 2.3.6.
It is a multimedia player not a smartphone but it has the BT profile so you can use it also as a headset for your phone or tablet and it works really great.
It can be a nice add-on for a tablet or an oversized telephone.
joexda75 said:
Hi,
there is a solution you can use the samsung galaxy player 3.6 device with android 2.3.6.
It is a multimedia player not a smartphone but it has the BT profile so you can use it also as a headset for your phone or tablet and it works really great.
It can be a nice add-on for a tablet or an oversized telephone.
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Anyway this could be ripped out of a ROM for that device and made to work on others?
darn what a dissapointment to notify that it will not work.
I wanted to keep my work phone and private phone sepparated but picking up all calls with my private phone while no one knows my private number seems so great...
any news on this??
Hey All -
I ran a quick search and didn't find this problem. I wanted to document it for posterity.
My phone makes a buzzing sound. I've seen it in every ROM I've tried so far (seems to be a hardware problem).
The sound is faint, is unaffected by media volume, and goes away when wifi is turned off. The phone appears to shut off the sound hardware when sound hasn't been played for a while in order to save battery. This makes the buzzing stop. But if a notification comes in, or there is a quiet part of a song, you can totally hear it.
It exists regardless of the ROM I have installed.
The sound is like what you'd hear in an older computer with something called crosstalk. Back in the day, (and to an extent still), various components in the hardware would generate EMI and would affect the sound quality in sound cards. For example, I had an Adlib card that would buzz a little every time the hard drive would read/write to disk.
This sounds just like that.
Anyway... just vote in the poll/comment if you're having this problem. Please post to the thread if you have a solution. I'm not expecting much though. I'm pretty sure I'd basically need a new phone for this to go away.
I get a very slight buzzing in my phones, completely unaffected by wifi. Only happens with my CX300 in-ears, any open earphones i havn't heard any noticable buzzing (though have no tried any type of headphones yet). Using Voodoo sound, lowering the amplifier dB gain and putting the media volume up reduces it a touch.
I grabbed a pair of iphone earphones and the nexus s earphones to test it with some more types, no noticeable buzzing. Also, both their sound quality is appalling in comparison to cheap sennheisers.
Yeah, that's different than me. It sounds like your CX300s might be dying.
I've got some Klipsch S4i ear buds and Bose QC3s that both have the same problem. Its loud and clear enough though that I'm sure I could hear it with cheaper headphones.
I can turn the volume all the way to zero and still hear it. When I turn it up, it doesn't make it louder though, which is "nice".
I've been all over the voodoo sound settings and nothing helps.
That's a shame, your phone probably suffers a noticeable case of leakage between the components. Could this possibly be classified as a defect and be fixed/replaced under warranty?
Also, my CX300s have no hiss on a higher quality dac and it was noticeably louder on my old nokia. I guess they're just more sensitive, they are only 16 ohm after all. No drama for me
It might qualify as a defect. I'd have to bug Samsung I guess. I could see Samsung just telling me to deal with it. It doesn't make a lot of business sense to replace a $500 phone because the headphones hiss when wifi is enabled.
It would sure make me a lot happier about buying Samsung stuff in the future though.
That's really weird about your headphones. Unless the audio quality on the CX300s is far superior over the iphone/nexus s ones, I would expect them all to behave the same way. Even then, it would be very subtle. Maybe the Nexus S doesn't ground the headphone jack very well for your headphones?
You could give them a call/email and see how it works out, but you'll probably be left without a phone for a few weeks if you send it so probably not worth it for you either.
Definitely far superior in comparison, but not nearly superior earphones Possibly a grounding issue, could even be just an unlucky set of Sennheisers that i got and have always been like this. They are out and about anyway, take a good beating and have been rock solid. Hopefully soon i'll be getting a decent pair of headphones for home use, funds allowing.
My laptop does the same thing, I'm thinking it is just interference with the headphones and your phone. might also be a lose wire or something in the phone or headphones :/
I know that this is old tread, but I had the same problem and solution might help someone.
In my case, the source of the buzz was charger (poor power supply filtering in cheap switching sources). I bought some cheap car charger/dock, and whenever I plugged my phone into it I would get lots of buzzing noise. Of course, I used it every time when in car, so I did not notice correlation for a while.
Using better charger solved my problem.
If by any chance you are charging your phone while you listening to music and getting lots of buzz, try disconnecting power cable to phone and see if there is noticeable difference. If there is, you found your problem.
Thanks for letting us know grejigl. Although not the source of my particular (non) issue, i can see it helping out someone else down the road.
I'm running on battery power when it happens to me. I'm pretty sure its caused by something related to WiFi because as soon as I shut WiFi off, the buzzing is gone.