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Active sync synchronization feature...

Hi all
I`m pretty sure many ppl ran into this problem before me, so I hope someone will be kind and shed some light for me on this one
It seems to me that for some reason I cannot keep my contacts and other stuff on my Universal after deleting a AS relationship with my PC.
This is what I did:
Initially I sync my desktop PC to my Universal via active sync 4.5. (the synchronization includes: contacts, calendars, appointments, notes from outlook 2003)
So far so good the relationship created between the PC and the Uni fine and Now I have my contacts etc on my phone.
Now I decide I don`t wish to necessary break the relationship between the PC and the Uni, but I do not want to sync my contacts anymore.
On the AS i hit tools>options and try to remove the check from say the contacts. at that point AS welcomes me with this: "To proceed, AS must remove all Contacts on your PocketPC. Do you want to continue?" niiice.... so at this point if you say no nothing happens if you say yes guess what... all your synced contacts are gone... Now I want to keeeeeeeeeeep them.
If i try to delete the relationship from the AS, then next time I connect the Uni AS REMOVES everything that was used to set to sync without asking...[contacts,notes,calendar,tasks] I have to add that when you are deleting a relationship it does tell you that it will remove all this from the uni next time you connect it....
I tried this from my uni > active sync settings "delete" the PC from the list (aka remove the relationship) and it immediately removed all contacts etc..... even if i just try to stop the contacts from being syced with the PC it warns me that if I do this it`ll remove all contact from the uni..... ???
???
at this point I`m just sad about this because it`s not a bug certainly. Its just bad design IMO.
here are a few details about this show:
PC: MS Windows XP PRO SP2 with all updates as of now.
PPC: T-mobile MDA PRO running ROM:2.02.00 WWE -- thanks Jay...
AS: Active Sync 4.5.0 (build 5096)
Outlook: MS Outlook 2003 Standard with all the updates as of now.
Is that really possible that they actually thought this way of synchronization was a good idea???
I like to figure out a way that would allow me to keep all the data on the phone even after I deleted the AS synchronization relationship.

...going once....
Maybe not that many people got stuck with this then....
I`ll try a few things in the meantime....

WIZARD82. I have the same issue. Did you ever find a solution?

Wait a minute.. are you trying to let the PC be connected with ur Uni via AS but not sync anything? I tried doing that before... I think the trick is with Outlook since AS does not provide any other option. You have to like break the connection between AS and Outlook or something.. I'll play around it when I get home.
Edit:
Hey I got it... I tried it here at the office. Just delete the current relationship and create a new one without checking anything in the list of items to be sync'ed. You still get to keep all the data on both PC and PPC!
1. Make sure the PPC is unplugged.
2. On AS, go to File -> Delete Mobile Device and just say Yes to the question.. you won't lose anything (as far as I know since I still have all my contacts)
3. Plug in ur PPC.
4. Create a new relationship without checking any options on the list of items.
That's it! Hope this helps.

are my contacts gone?

I was having trouble making outlook work. It just suddenly would not start up. All the typical advice, and a lot of nontypical advice, failed. Reinstalls failed. So, I have to move on and I proceed to sync up with a separate machine.. a laptop.
There are already 2 profiles that the phone is synced with, so it tells me I have to delete one. I delete both. They're just profiles, after all, and they don't actually work any more.
Now, all my contacts are gone. I've got a really bad feeling that I just told my phone to delete all my contacts.
I'm a programmer. If that's indeed what just happened, this is such astoundingly bad design that I'm pretty much ready to write off windows mobile as "crap"--especially given the fact that I did all this BECAUSE outlook randomly decided to stop working (the famous crash upon startup).
Is there anything, no matter how technical, I can do to get these contacts back?

I just looked at pim.vol in the phone root, and found some of the information in my contacts list, so it implies to me that it should still be there / recoverable. How can I make the phone / outlook / activesync sort this mess out?

hello i'm afaid i'm not much help. but i think i lost all my contacts as well! very very bad. i upgraded to outlook 2003. i deleted my sync settings and created a new relationship. i ran activesync. outlook/activesync deleated all my contacts!! i wanted my contacts to populate outlook...
i'm sick,
tom

malefactor said:
I just looked at pim.vol in the phone root, and found some of the information in my contacts list, so it implies to me that it should still be there / recoverable. How can I make the phone / outlook / activesync sort this mess out?
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Reinstall the PIMbackup in your phone and restore the Pim.vol or transfer the pim.vol to a miniSD card and get a card reader and backup to your PC.hope it'll do the trick.Secondly,it's been reported that the outlook 2007 is having sync problems with contacts on wm6,install outlook 2003 and check if it works out.
Good luck

I'm able to restore the prior pim.vol, finally. But all the contacts are still gone. The microsoft user groups (and microsoft employees that post in there) are quite silent about this - I even tried posting there.
Meanwhile, I have tried every version of outlook I can find. Nothing will actually run on my machine. It's only when you experience something like this that you figure out just how amazingly bad Microsoftware is; I spent about 2 hours trying to make Outlook work, doing everything from erasing all profiles and contacts, re-implanting / re-registering DLLs, to invoking it in every kind of safe mode.. complete uninstall + reinstall..
No dice. Outlook crashes upon startup without a single word as to why. I EVEN TRIED debugging it with visual studio. I'm not a wintel programmer, but it looks to me like the software branched to a nonexistent address (opcodes were garbage).
It is pathetic that Outlook can crash for 50 different reasons with the same failure characteristics, and it holds the user in contempt.
I won't use software like that if I can avoid it. I hope the googlephone buries windows mobile.

[WM 6] How I can backup contact information without having ActiveSyc?

Hi
Thank you for reading my post.
I have a samsung i780 and ActiveSync does not detect it, I just want to hard reset it (does hard reset delete everything?) to see whether I can make it detected by ActiveSync or not.
I can not afford to lose my contacts information, Also, It will be very good to keep all sms too.
Can you please let me know how I can do that?
Thanks

try PPCPimBackup
http://www.dotfred.net/

To keep the contacts probably the easiest way it to sign up for one of the free online Exchange email accts and let the OTA Active Sync do it's magic. Personally i use mail2web. Doesn't help with the SMS though.
Other alternative that has just popped into my head is PIMBackup, seek and ye shall find on this forum. It will backup the whole thing, Contacts, Calendar, all messaging accounts, basically the whole PIM data.

+1 on PimBackup. It is downloaded as a windows mobile executable. Just copy it onto your sd card (which I hope you have).

how to delete active sync 4.5 partnership from MDA without data loss?

Hi guys,
I have a problem: After total system recovery (notebook), most info from outlook got lost already. Now the MDA touch PLUS (T-mobile) is the most recent backup from contacts and calender. Unfortunately that device already has two partnerships. I don't need any of these partnerships, but I need the data to remain at least for one sync. After that I am planning to hard-reset the mobile device anyways.
Is it possible to delete the partnership info from the MDA without losing the contacts/ calender?
Appreciate any answer!
rgds,
Thomas

Delete the two partnerships anyway. Save any data in the shared folders if used or required. When you create a new partnership you are asked if you want to merge or replace the contacts on the device.
Select Merge and the old contacts are still left there. Worst case scenario is that you end up with some or all contacts on the phone duplicated, and have to manually delete them.

Thanks, but I guess, you got that all wrong.
I have all the data on the device (MDA). So that must not be lost. So, when I now try to sync with freshly set up notebook, I have to transfer the device info to the computer. Then certainly computer has no partnerships and mobile device has two already (before connection).
So in order to sync (for the first time) I can only delete at least one of the existing partnerships from the mobile device and then create a new one with the notebook in order to sync.
hope that makes it clear!
Thanks for any answer!
Thomas

Deleting the partnership from either the PC or the device does not delete any data from the device. You can delete both, it doesn't matter. It is only when you create the new partnership that you will be asked if you wish to replace the data on the phone, with that on the PC. Select merge or replace PC data with that on the phone, and it will copy the phone contacts/calender across to outlook on the new PC. It is only if you select replace device data with data from the PC that you will end up in trouble.

you can always use data backup apps like PIM Backup 2.8 to save your contacts/messages/call logs/apps/tasks............... and then delete the partnerships and restore the backup.

nir36 said:
you can always use data backup apps like PIM Backup 2.8 to save your contacts/messages/call logs/apps/tasks............... and then delete the partnerships and restore the backup.
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Ok, you got there first this time.
Have had cause to use PIMBackup to save all PIM data when trying new push mail at work. The installation wanted to overwrite everything with my work's contacts/calendar/to-do. As these are diferent, or they were, all i did was backup, install the package, let the synch settle down so my PDA had all my work stuff only and then restore. It then proceeded to push everything up to the works system. Job done. Nothing got lost.

logic is bliss

MyPhone and Outlook Sync Issue

I wanted to know if there is a way around or trick to prevent duplicating contacts/appointments/tasks everytime I flash my vogue
and connect/sync to MyPhone and then sync with Outlook?
Sorry if this was asked elsewhere...could find it!
Thanks in advance.

amad99 said:
I wanted to know if there is a way around or trick to prevent duplicating contacts/appointments/tasks everytime I flash my vogue
and connect/sync to MyPhone and then sync with Outlook?
Sorry if this was asked elsewhere...could find it!
Thanks in advance.
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I would also like to know how to get them both synchronised
Is there any solution?
greetz giniman

I found a simple solution... Flash your device. Sync with MyPhone. Delete Outlook personal folders file and create a new, empty one (easy way to just delete everything from Outlook). Then set up sync between device and Outlook, voila - all your data goes first from MyPhone to device, then from device to Outlook.

GwynBleidd said:
I found a simple solution... Flash your device. Sync with MyPhone. Delete Outlook personal folders file and create a new, empty one (easy way to just delete everything from Outlook). Then set up sync between device and Outlook, voila - all your data goes first from MyPhone to device, then from device to Outlook.
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How to delete contacts from Outlook ?
cos i have 200 contacts & is there a bulk way to remove
or have to do each one by one ?
& my phone for some reason is not updateing contacts
that i add & updated on my phone
so after i remove all contacts from outlook will it sync
or should i create new partnership
from phone to PC
Please Need Help

Create new Contacts folder
The syncronization between WinMo with Outlook via Activesync regarding the contacts is done using the default Outlook contacts folder. So, what I use to do is to create another contacts folder and move there as many contacts as I want not meant to be sync'd. This way, I achive what I want, and keep intact all the remaining contacts, which you can move back and forth as you please, any time.
However, my understanding of "syncronization" is not all these tricks (I know that sometimes there is no other way) but a single utility that syncs, echoes, replicates or whatsoever. From this point of view, I would like to reiterate the original question: Is there "something" to sync My Phone with Outlook?
Thanks.

FWIW i have the same issue with my Xperia connected toOutlook and a mail2web Exchange account. The only commonality is my Xperia in the middle and the only working solution has been to clear out the Outlook Calendar and Contacts before resynching, after allowing time for the OTA Exchange to finish.