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Help for a starter!

Hi guys, I am a new on ths forum and with te prophet. After using a hima for 3 years, I bought a prophet today. Since I was at wm2005 aku 3.5 with my hima, I cannot use my pim.vol any more with my current rom version, which is
Rom version 2.9.7.24 WWE
Rom date 2/9/2006
Radio 02.07.20
Protocol 413.1.03
Extrom 2.9.7.106
This is all new for me and I am hoping that someone could post me or PM me some advice on newer roms and how to upgrade. I also found a version with G3 or G4. What is the difference and what do I need to use.
This device works different, but it look very nice.
Can I re-use some of my old (hima) applications on this machine?
Thanks very much in advance. I hope to have as much pleasure on this forum as I had on the hima forum!

1. you can get some of the old apps working on wm5 devices, but not all of them.
2. check your device for G3-G4 issue here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=prophet_g3g4_how
3. good thing if you have time to read this: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet
it will answer most of your questions on how to upgrade your ROM. read it three or four times: i'm not kidding - you may ruin your device if you miss something.

If I can hijack this thread for a second... is there any way to backup whatever ROM we have on a CID locked device? cause it seems kinda pointless to have to CID unlock the device (which involves FLASHING a completely new rom, overwriting the old), to open the backup feature at which point is useless since we've lost the original rom.

mr_yellow said:
If I can hijack this thread for a second... is there any way to backup whatever ROM we have on a CID locked device?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Rom_Dump
why not? just download your original ROM from this site or official site of qtek, jamin or whatever your device is.
afaik you CID unlock the device to be able to flash different ROMs (for example, to flash jamin with qtek ROM) and to be able to return back to your original ROM.

Where are these "official" ROMS coming from?

So i registered my TyTn II SN on the HTC e-club expecting to see ROMs for download. It properly shows my device as registered, but there are no ROMS available for download. I contacted their e-mail support and was told that "no ROMs have been relased for the TyTN II."
How can this be? From everything I am looking at here there should be at least one 6.0 ROM and one 6.1 ROM that was released by HTC??? If not, where are all these ROMs coming from?
Did I get bad info from HTC? Did they remove all their ROMS for some reason? Please help me understand.
thx.

dear friend
i understand your confused i also got it in the begining but i understode later
all those rooms are built in something you can call it beta version of windows 6.1
this is what i know about that and maybe someone else knows better and correct me if iam wrong
best regards

They are not OFFICIAL, as many people might think. They are built by cooks around here (and other places).

Keep in mind that there are also ROMS from other countries that come available then are shared.
You may have registered to HTC e-club, however, it may not show as per your location.

As I understand, the newest rom always come with the newest device come to market, htc don't update "old" devices, even there is new version rom released from microsoft. For example, kaiser was released last year, and the newest rom in the meantime was 6.0, so the kaiser came with 6.0. Even you buy your kaiser now, and the 6.1 was released by microsoft few months ago, you won't get 6.1 in your brand new kaiser.
All these new "offical" roms are released or leaked by microsoft, for newer devices, and our cookers here cook them for our kaiser and we can have chance to try new functions in these new roms.

Thanks for the reponses.
So, If i understand correctly, no one is able to Download the "official" ROM for their device from HTC directly?
I believe I can download the AT&T Tilt ROM from AT&T, but for HTC ROM every copy that exists here is from a "dump" of someone elses or a cooked version?
To start with my device i would rather use a fresh ROM and not a cooked version. How can I easily find what is the latest "Clean" dump ROM out there?
thanks!

Actually, no one is able to go to HTC's website and download an official 6.1 ROM for their Kaiser/Tilt II as they have "officially" not released it yet.
Microsoft has only just "officially" announced WM6.1 in the last week.

I dont' necessarily mean the latest as in 6.1.... I mean are there ANY officially released HTC Roms that I can use to flash my tilt and if so...where and how can I get an "official" one. Again, by official I mean not a dump or a cook.

bengalih said:
I dont' necessarily mean the latest as in 6.1.... I mean are there ANY officially released HTC Roms that I can use to flash my tilt and if so...where and how can I get an "official" one. Again, by official I mean not a dump or a cook.
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well, if youre saying "official" as in, HTC says, "hey everyone with an htc device thats running a rom not belonging to htc, here's an official release of our rom for your device" then no.
but, however, there are roms in these threads that were extracted from say the htc kaiser that is an offical htc rom, no att, just htc
if you want an "official" htc rom then you'll have to buy an unlocked device, instead of one from a particular carrier.
lollipops and redneck turkey gobblin,
duswdav

WHAT I WONDER is the wm6.1 suppose to have silverlight mobile and skype mobile and ie better featured but non of the leaked roms ever showed any of these features?

Well for instance, when I had my PPC6700 and there were issue with it, Sprint actually had me reload their ROM to try and troubleshoot.
If you buy an "unlocked" HTC with no carrier, then whose ROM does HTC expect you to use...the HTC rom that comes with the device, or another special ROM made available to the carrier? I suppose that if you buy an unlocked Kaiser (for $5-700) that there is nothing in the warranty saying you can't reflash it... therefore shouldn't HTC provide a copy of the ROM incase you need to flash it back to defaults?
thx

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Well for instance, when I had my PPC6700 and there were issue with it, Sprint actually had me reload their ROM to try and troubleshoot.
If you buy an "unlocked" HTC with no carrier, then whose ROM does HTC expect you to use...the HTC rom that comes with the device, or another special ROM made available to the carrier? I suppose that if you buy an unlocked Kaiser (for $5-700) that there is nothing in the warranty saying you can't reflash it... therefore shouldn't HTC provide a copy of the ROM incase you need to flash it back to defaults?
thx
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I bought a TyTn II, as well as a Wizdr before, both unlocked, and always got a CD-ROM with apps AND a restoration utility which is actualy the original ROM.
If I take a look now on the HTC e-club, my registered TyTN II has a download available, but it's from 09/2007 (and french..). So I don't even consider flashing my device with this as it would be the same as the one delivered with my phone I think.

Dredd67 said:
I bought a TyTn II, as well as a Wizdr before, both unlocked, and always got a CD-ROM with apps AND a restoration utility which is actualy the original ROM.
If I take a look now on the HTC e-club, my registered TyTN II has a download available, but it's from 09/2007 (and french..). So I don't even consider flashing my device with this as it would be the same as the one delivered with my phone I think.
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Right Dredd..that's what I am talking about.... I would think that someone who bought an unlocked one would have a CD with the "official" ROM and that HTC would also post that on e-club for registered members (in case you lost your CD)... But they don't appear to post one for download there...

[mods plz delete] WM 6.1 english for htc s710 (india) ?

hi
can anyone tell me where to get the 6.1 update for htc s710 in india? i registered with htc india but no updates show-up.
to tell the truth ... i'm not comfortable installing a 'cooked' rom posted by dr. gonzo rom coz its first time got a windows device so if i screw the flashing theres no way i can get the original software back
thanks in advance
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IRRELEVENT POST - NO OFFICIAL WM6.1 FOR VOX

Dude, don't worry the Read me that comes with the Dr.Gonzo's ROM is self explanatory... And Dear, when i tried it for first time, I screwed my VOX too...But then a little patience and VOX wiki..I am up there with my VOX on WM 6.1..ANd now you can see my Signature, i love trying beta ROMsss.. Just in case anything happen to ur phone, give me a buzz at [email protected] may be i can be of some instant help to u... And i bet my life...Senior members on this forum are always ready to help ppl like us...So go ahead and try it..
Thanks to All ppl of this wonderful forum
Loku

there is no official WM6.1 ROM update for S710 ANYWHERE.
you can try the WM6.1 ROM by Dr.Gonzo, it is very good. It does have some minor glitches but a new user like you won't notice it for a while.
and yes this forum will help you if anything goes wrong, but before you do anything please read the wiki completely and when flashing follow ALL instruction(every single line) carefully. ALL!
You would like the WM6.1 rom.
and one more thing....
download the official 1.34 ROM also(its on the FTP),
then in case you screw it up while flashing, you will have the original ROM to fall back on.

thanks lokesh, prajith.
can u give me a link tot he original HTC S710 rom (1.34) u were telling me about?
thanks guys

Upadte HTC S710 with WM 6.1
Hi all, I recently bought HTC s710 and I love there are some queries see if anyone can guide me :
1. If I flash my device with WM 6.1 can i get the original OS by hard reset?
2. If I flash the device will i lose my warranty which is one year ?
3. If i spoil my device is there a way to restore original OS so that repair people do not come to know that I have flashed my device.
Thank you

1). If you flash WM6.1 or ANY ROM, you can not restore to the original ROM by hard reset. You will need to re-flash it.
2). Technically, yes you will lose warranty, however...
3). Patched USPL can be used so you can always restore the original factory/OEM ROM and still use your warranty should you have any hardware issues.
In short, I would not hesitate to flash WM6.1 due to those questions you have. The first thing I did when I got my S710 was flash a patched SPL and unofficial ROM.

h4waii has explained it beautifully.
now please read the wiki! all roms are there.
p.s. is my signature invisible

Yes, it is to all people that are new, it's a fact, they ask before they read, I am getting sick of it. The same questions every day!

XDA should force a reply to each sticky'd Wiki before posting rights are granted, until then only read should be applied to the account. Perhaps I will bring it up with a mod.

excellent idea h4waii!
Mods please do this.
make reply to wiki compulsory before posting.
Atleast ppl will visit there once

I don't think it's that easy to integrate that into vBulletin! lol

prajith said:
h4waii has explained it beautifully.
now please read the wiki! all roms are there.
p.s. is my signature invisible
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i found the ftp site for the roms but which one is in english?? is WWE ?

WWE - World Wide English

prajith said:
WWE - World Wide English
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Guess thats why they call us Noobs
peace

naah..
its alright.

frauhottelmann said:
I don't think it's that easy to integrate that into vBulletin! lol
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It's possible, the C4 forums have it in place on vBulliten 3.7.1, but I am sure they require it more than XDA does.
It would be better to require a certain amount of posts before you can start a new thread. Meh. I don't think it's that much of an issue anyways. I am sure if it was, something would be in place already.

Update error
I downloaded Dr.Gonzo's Monalise v1.0 and finished all the steps in the how-to and Readme. During the final Flash.exe, it is saying ERROR [270] : UPDATE ERROR. The image file is corrupted. Please check your Update Utility.

Read the wiki, you have to flash your USPL

TheBo said:
Read the wiki, you have to flash your USPL
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I did that too. Same error Update Error 270. Image file corrupted. Only the batch file executed correctly after the application unlocking.

Flashing an AT&T tilt with an Official HTC Rom

Hello,
I have recently bought a AT&T Tilt, and would like to flash to the current Offcial HTC WM 6.1 ROM.
I have done alot of reading in the wiki here and various FAQ threads and what not. But i am still a bit confused with a few things.
I have read the ROM Flashing faq and Intro here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
And i understand all that.
I also undestand that i need the Key board fix from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911
But thats not hard.
I went here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
I checked my device and the rom currently on it is the AT&T WM6.0 1.57.502.2 Original Shiped Rom.
I figured, being in Australia, i would need rom that had WWE as the country? So i downloaded the "RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship" rom. Is this an appropriete ROM for what i want?
BUT Its all this stuff about SPL's and what not that is confusing me.
My Tilt is SIM unlocked because i am using it on the Telstra network here in Australia. But im not sure if i have to change SPL's or not and if so, which spl i need and how to change it?
It would be greatly appreciated if someone was able to help me understand this SPL bussiness, because i really dont want to dive straight in a risk my device. I have done a fair bit of reading and i'm a fairly competent computer user so it won't take me long to learn.
Thanks in advance,
eMiller

you have to CID unlock it. this involves flashing the device with HardSPL then running a unlocker program. (this is what i know from Hermes, so i don't know if it is exactly the same on Tilt). It breaks the warranty though, so think first, then jump
by the way, you should try a cooked rom. in my experience, HTC roms are not that good, except for getting a stable radio. get the radio, then get a new OS rom, like hang.tuah or something.

warsng said:
you have to CID unlock it. this involves flashing the device with HardSPL then running a unlocker program.
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Ok thanks. Can someone please recomend the best hardSPL and unlocker program for my needs. What do other people with Tilts recomend?

here you go
eMiller12 said:
Ok thanks. Can someone please recomend the best hardSPL and unlocker program for my needs. What do other people with Tilts recomend?
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Try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Look for the Zip file at the very bottom of the screen this hard spl will let you flash any rom (follow the instructions the spl gives you exactly and dont get nervous if it appears stiuck for a bit), just make sure you know which ROM you really want to flash at the end
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Again same stuff.
Guys, when you gonna learn to read everything which is realted to your device when you want to do something?
Everything is in Wiki, everything you need is posted in ROM threads.
Come on GUYS!

read the f**** wiki. you need hardspl. its not that hard to figure out if your not an imbisel

@joel2009: That is a little harsh. Also, if you're going to call someone an imbecile, you should probably spell it right.
@eMiller12 (fellow noob): I don't know if I would bother with the HTC ROM, I just flashed it and I am finding a few really annoying bugs... Read Jocky's STICKY post about the HardSPLs to learn how to flash one. It really is quite simple--and it's unlikely that you're going to brick your device, so no worries.

Hey FireMedic, thanks for understanding.
I have read through the Wiki a fair bit, i was just unsure which versions of hardSPL etc where best for the [email protected] Tilt inparicular. But i will just use this one that vorostatz recomended if that is the best one for the tilt.

joel2009 said:
read the f**** wiki. you need hardspl. its not that hard to figure out if your not an imbisel
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We are not all senior members. I can fully understand the guys wish not to turn his expensive device into a paperweight. Ease up eh?

search forums using google (at top right)
yeah, exactly... I was pretty scared to hardspl when I first started.
Hardspl 3.29 seems to be the best one, check my signature after you've read the hardspl sticky.
From what I understand, a rom flash might try to write a different spl which is obviously bad. hardspl prevents this.
If you ever need to, you can undo it. Kyphur explains in the hardspl sticky how to change them, by running a program named jumpspl 1.56 (on your device) with your sim and sd cards out and then flashing the spl normally.
Just make sure you follow directions for your device and try different roms.
Good luck and feel free to ask questions, even if some of the people here have heard them way too often.

Special ROMs for Australia
eMiller12 said:
I checked my device and the rom currently on it is the AT&T WM6.0 1.57.502.2 Original Shiped Rom.
I figured, being in Australia, i would need rom that had WWE as the country? So i downloaded the "RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship" rom. Is this an appropriete ROM for what i want?
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Actually the WWE (World Wide English) one seems to be used more in Europe and this side of the world. For down-under, they use SEA South East Asia versions. There are issues with ROM compatibility in Australia specifically (at least in the WM 6.0 days) so if you want to know the best official WM 6.0 and 6.1 ROMs, short of searching for what setups Australian xda-dev forum members are using, you could look at the devices on sale in the shops. If you're wanting WM 6.1 just to have the latest and greatest, think again and have a look at the Windows Mobile 6 vs. Windows Mobile 6.1 thread.
***Edit*** Also note that there are two Australian specific ROMs in the WM 6.0 section of the Kaiser HTC ROM wiki

Original HTC 6.1 Rom [request]

First of all; thx for helping me out with flashing HardSPL. It worked out great and I immediately flashed 6.5. However (now we are getting to the point) it's kind of buggy.
I want to flash the latested HTC Kaiser ROM (6.1). To download the ROM I need a none branded serial, which I don't have.
Does anybody have something like a shared serial? Or a original no nonsence 6.1 HTC ROM?
I'll keep searching the forum but if you could help me, that would be great!
Peran

Peran said:
First of all; thx for helping me out with flashing HardSPL. It worked out great and I immediately flashed 6.5. However (now we are getting to the point) it's kind of buggy.
I want to flash the latested HTC Kaiser ROM (6.1). To download the ROM I need a none branded serial, which I don't have.
Does anybody have something like a shared serial? Or a original no nonsence 6.1 HTC ROM?
I'll keep searching the forum but if you could help me, that would be great!
Peran
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No offense , but after 30 posts you should know better that to post something like this in a NEW thread in the rom Development forum.
All stock roms are listed for download in the wiki.

Your right!
Sorry guys, I got (too) lasy.

I got my ROM here (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs)
Thx for the reminder.

As denco7 said stocks are in WIKI.
Thread answered and closed.