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How to fix trashed bootloader?

All,
Somehow my bootloader got trashed while swapping memory cards and I'd like to easiest fix to get it going again. (At Tri-Color screen) If I plug it in and run RUU_Kaiser_Cingular_WWE.exe (I'm running nonbloat Tilt rom) it'll start the upgrade, stop at about 1%, but the phone will boot and everything is there. So I'm just looking for a quick way to make it stick so I don't have to do that anymore..
I'll play with cooked ROMs soon, everything is working GREAT for the time being and I don't wanna reinstall!
Thanks all!
-RT

Doesn't sound like you have HardSPL installed but this should fix your problem (at least your issue sounds very similar) ... after you get it fixed you should consider installing HardSPL.
Credit to pof for the instructions below which were part of his now dead SSPL thread for Kaiser:
For those of you had the phone stuck in bootloader mode after flash with SSPL stopping at 16%, follow these instructions to unbrick your phone:
1. Download mtty.exe
2. Disable activesync (connection settings -> uncheck "allow usb connections")
3. Connect your Kaiser to PC using USB cable.
4. Open mtty, select USB port and click OK.
5. Hit ENTER twice, you should see the "Cmd>" prompt.
6. Type the command "boot", you should see something like this:
Code:
Cmd> boot
InitDisplay: Display_Chip=1
No card inserted
OSSIReadBack ++
Read SI data from flash success
tail signature match
Checksum match
UserStorageSIPreload ++
After that device should boot WM6 again, you can now re-enable USB connections in activesync and flash HardSPL
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Good Luck

Ahhh!
I didn't find it in the Kaiser forum, but in the Hermes wiki!
Seems that I just had to connect via mtty (to USB, not a COM port! ) then just issue a: set 14 0
Then did a soft reset and all was well!
Back in business!
Now, maybe I'll start playing with some ROMS!
Thanks again!
-RT

hello i have the same problem after i tried to sim unlock my mda vario iii i tried to do what you proposed but didn't work this is what i get when i tried to boot from mtty
Fill RSVD information for block 288 to 309
TAG NOT FOUND !!! NOT CLEAR STORAGE !!!
No card inserted
OEMIPLInit clear 10MB ext RAM
OEMGetUpdateMode
FMD_ReadSector+, bad block no=0x15440, status:0x0
FMD_ReadSector+, bad block no=0x15440, status:0x0
FMD_ReadSector+, bad block no=0x15440, status:0x0
IPLMSG:0x2:ERROR: Failed to open storage partition.
i would apreciate if you can help me

Stuck in Bootloader
Hi everyone,
I tried using MTTY.exe on a XP machine. The option for USB shows up but when i type the command "boot" i get command error. Please help!
KAIS130
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
on the right top corner the tri-color screen displays RUUNBH
I tried HARD-SPL / gets stuck on 0% and the RUU goes into recovery mode later. Tried stock ROM (Invalid ID).

eddiesantiago said:
Hi everyone,
I tried using MTTY.exe on a XP machine. The option for USB shows up but when i type the command "boot" i get command error. Please help!
KAIS130
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
on the right top corner the tri-color screen displays RUUNBH
I tried HARD-SPL / gets stuck on 0% and the RUU goes into recovery mode later. Tried stock ROM (Invalid ID).
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should've read further. You'd of seen my post on Different SPL's & their different command capabilities.
For 1.93 SPL you can issue cmd>task 8
You need to install hardSPL once you get it going, because you DON'T have it know.

GSLEON3 said:
should've read further. You'd of seen my post on Different SPL's & their different command capabilities.
For 1.93 SPL you can issue cmd>task 8
You need to install hardSPL once you get it going, because you DON'T have it know.
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Thanks for your response GSLEON3
I followed your instructions and used the Task 8 command for the 1.93 SPL
The device turn off and comes back to the same Tri - color screen with RUUNBH on top right. Tried flashing Hard-SPL stuck on 0%. Please help

Anything you found eddiesantiago ?
Hi eddiesantiago,
did you find any solution to your problem, i have a similar issue.
My Tilt Shows :
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
on the right top corner the tri-color screen displays RUUNBH
Please reply if you got it fixed.
TIA,
Dhaval.

same issue
My tilt shows the same info here, is this normal? I need to verify this before I send my TILT back to ATT...
Thanks

Kaiser Flah SSPL 16% and it stops!!!

I tried it also to flash to another rom. But at 16% it stops and i dont now why but i cant repair the rom. When i reboot the kaiser phone he comes directly in bootloader mode.
The do nothing anymore, i tried to flash from sd or mtty. Nothing works.
By mtty, i get the error that the command boot is a false command.
So i think my phone is really ****t up. this is really the firt time in 3 years my phone stops and i cant find solutions on XDA.
I can found only this tread with :
For those of you had the phone stuck in bootloader mode after flash with SSPL stopping at 16%, follow these instructions to unbrick your phone:
1. Download mtty.exe
2. Disable activesync (connection settings -> uncheck "allow usb connections")
3. Connect your Kaiser to PC using USB cable.
4. Open mtty, select USB port and click OK.
5. Hit ENTER twice, you should see the "Cmd>" prompt.
6. Type the command "boot", you should see something like this:
Code:
Cmd> boot
InitDisplay: Display_Chip=1
No card inserted
OSSIReadBack ++
Read SI data from flash success
tail signature match
Checksum match
UserStorageSIPreload ++After that device should boot WM6 again, you can now re-enable USB connections in activesync and flash HardSPL
But it won't work.
I hope somebody can help me a litlle.
Greeting Thetmar.

are you trying to flash a rom using sspl-kais.exe?? and then it got stuck at 16%??

Why you dont use hard spl??
have you read the wiki first before flashing your device??
carefull with mtty...can brick your phone forever
cheers

I'v used mtty ande the command set 16 0.
And my phone is working again perfectly, only i can't get another rom on it!! I't stuck on 0% with all the spl versions. And the computer says 260 communication error.
I think i go back to the shop and ask for another phone.
My buddy has no problem to flash it. And i had the same phone and have bseveral problems.
Many many downloads and software on this site but i think i tryed almost everything.
Already thanks for saving my phone

error 260 is an open port error, you can try changing usb ports, rebooting your pc, turning off firewalls/antivirus
and you still did not answer me, are you using sspl to flash your phone??? i seriously doubt there is anything wrong with the phone.

how to install hard spl without windows running in kaiser?

how to install hard spl without windows running in kaiser?
can i use some Mtty commands to make this possible?

this should probably be posted in the threads pertaining to HardSPL, and to answer your question i think not. you have to run the KaisSSPL/JumpSPL in order to temporarily overwrite the SPL on the device. and you cannot just overwrite it by flashing HardSPL as you would a rom or we would have done that from the get go and have it included on every rom.

my kaiser has some problems and can not load windows , thats why i need to change spl and try to use other soft to recover problem.
i have problem with processor communication via I2C with PM7500 chip.
may be i have to brick it firs deleting boot and going to serial connection with processor? (like command task 2a - but in my spl this command not working)
thank you

actualy there is no issue for you.
you can not change spl without WM6.
i've got the same probleme.
let me know if you find a solution.

i thought that my tytn ii was bricked. now is alive. Read "Radio Hell" threads... check in what status is your tytn ii... (obviously at your own risk)....
first try with "solved radio hell thread", but if you erased all by mistake this thread helped me too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394584&highlight=oemsbl
rumensat said:
how to install hard spl without windows running in kaiser?
can i use some Mtty commands to make this possible?
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pressing green key not working in 1.93 spl
mtty commands for formating not working with this spl

mtty command don't work for me.

nicx said:
mtty command don't work for me.
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MTTY should work, just make sure you have unchecked "allow usb connections" in activesync.

rumensat said:
may be i have to brick it firs deleting boot and going to serial connection with processor? (like command task 2a - but in my spl this command not working)
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which spl version is installed? write down all information shown on tricolor bootloader screen

jockyw2001 said:
which spl version is installed? write down all information shown on tricolor bootloader screen
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RUUNBH
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Serial / USB

rumensat said:
pressing green key not working in 1.93 spl
mtty commands for formating not working with this spl
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hi,
i had rom radio 1.64.06.04.
for me this command work fine:
Try this from MTTY:
set 16 0
task 8
maybe that's will work for you.

set 16 0 -this command doing nothing
task 8 - reboot unit
at all there is no chance to brick this **** at all
I LIKE TO BRICK THIS **** AND TO START WITH SERIAL DRIVERS
i take off battery in every second when load rom and no chans for me to destroy stupid boot

I remember loading the original HTC ROM when in deep sh*t trouble... no need to have it booted to OS, only to tricolor screen
then you will boot to OS, install SOFT-SPL, then HARD-SPL and your custom ROM, Radio, splash...

i can not boot to Os , i have never seen OS in this unit

rumensat said:
i can not boot to Os , i have never seen OS in this unit
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when you turn on the device, what do you see? tricolor screen? or white screen? or
you cannot boot to OS even after flashing a stock official HTC rom?

when turn device it is start load windows, after first screen go melodi which i see in rom named LB (low battery), and phone sw off.
i can load any original rom with success, but same story.
i thing problem is in I2C communication between proc and PM7500 chip , register for batt value is nor readable.
thats why i like to remake soft and take off power controll from it, but can not flash hard spl

rumensat said:
when turn device it is start load windows, after first screen go melodi which i see in rom named LB (low battery), and phone sw off.
i can load any original rom with success, but same story.
i thing problem is in I2C communication between proc and PM7500 chip , register for batt value is nor readable.
thats why i like to remake soft and take off power controll from it, but can not flash hard spl
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Isn't it easier to apply for a warranty replace then?

here in Bulgaria HTC dont have service

Anyway I have seen some note that jocky is going to make the SPL flashable via SD memory card... maybe worth waiting then

BTW have you tried different battery?

TYTNII Flashing problem

Hi guys,
Yesterday I upgraded from my Vox (running Gonzo WM6.1) to a Kaiser and started reading up on how to flash a custom ROM. Much more info and ROMS than for the Vox!!!
Firstly, before I even checked here, I upgraded to the latest WM6.1 HTC Rom.
Since that, no luck. I've read several pages, wikis and what have you, but I can't get the phone flashed with any HardSPL. Tried several versions of JumpSPL and there after only connection errors when doing HardSPL. On using JumpSPL1.93 the words USB doesn't come up on the bootloader screen - only on 1.56 and the 3.28 on the phone itself.
On that - most posts says on the bootloader it would show "...Jocky..." or "...pof..." SPL version, but mine everytime just says the standard "CPLD-8". The leads me to think that somehow it doesn't want to run the custom SPL version. I tried the SDA unlocker tool too, but it says "The device can not be unlocked"
After trying 2 hours I'm ready to throw in the rope....

the word usb will not appear on screen!
you need to unplug and replug your usb cable, to shift from serial to usb
or use force usb versions of hardspl
stoutseun said:
Hi guys,
Yesterday I upgraded from my Vox (running Gonzo WM6.1) to a Kaiser and started reading up on how to flash a custom ROM. Much more info and ROMS than for the Vox!!!
Firstly, before I even checked here, I upgraded to the latest WM6.1 HTC Rom.
Since that, no luck. I've read several pages, wikis and what have you, but I can't get the phone flashed with any HardSPL. Tried several versions of JumpSPL and there after only connection errors when doing HardSPL. On using JumpSPL1.93 the words USB doesn't come up on the bootloader screen - only on 1.56 and the 3.28 on the phone itself.
On that - most posts says on the bootloader it would show "...Jocky..." or "...pof..." SPL version, but mine everytime just says the standard "CPLD-8". The leads me to think that somehow it doesn't want to run the custom SPL version. I tried the SDA unlocker tool too, but it says "The device can not be unlocked"
After trying 2 hours I'm ready to throw in the rope....
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jahrami said:
the word usb will not appear on screen!
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Yes it will, or it will not work. My Tilt has the exact issue. If I use JumpSPL 1.93, I will not get USB onscreen, and it will not communicate. If I use JumpSPL 1.56, I do get USB, and am able to communicate and flash.
stoutseun said:
...the words USB doesn't come up on the bootloader screen - only on 1.56 and the 3.28 on the phone itself...
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If you load JumpSPL 1.56, and see USB onscreen, then follow the flashing instructions from that point (I don't bother with unchecking Allow USB Connections in ActiveSync), and HardSPL will flash successfully. If you get a communication error, switch USB ports; preferably to a different USB controller (i.e from front USB to back USB).

Thanks guys - I tried that all. Get to the stage where it shows the percentage bar and stays on 0% until the errors stops it all.

stoutseun said:
Thanks guys - I tried that all. Get to the stage where it shows the percentage bar and stays on 0% until the errors stops it all.
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What error message? Each error number means something different.

Connection error. Tried various methods now and on two different pcs, but no luck. I think it's something to do with the phone being locked.
Is the SDA_Unlocker utility generic or is there a specific version for the Kaiser? I get an error saying "Phone is not unlockable"

Kaiser Stuck at Bootloader (aka Tri Color or Red, Green, Blue Screen)? Solutions Here

Before someone comes and flames me for creating a new thread (*hide from DaveShaw*) let me explain:
I have created a Wiki page for users who are stuck at the SPL (a.k.a Bootloader, Tri-Colour screen etc.):
Kaiser_stuck_at_bootloader ​
This has helped out a number of users who have become stuck at the SPL but every day I see more and more users getting stuck and creating new thread, or going off topic in other threads.
What to do if you get stuck:
Read the Wiki Page and follow the advice: Kaiser_stuck_at_bootloader
If you have tried all the steps in the wiki and still have a problem, read the feedback from other users in this thread and any advice I give out in this thread.
If you are still having problems please post all the details you can about what you have done and what version ROM / Radio / SPL you are running in this thread.
Credits:
Everyone I credited in the Wiki page.
mrdo who followed my advice and donated.
P1Tater for stickying this thread.
cmonex who seems to teach me something each day.
Thanks
Dave

Nice thread. Worth a sticky since it seems to be happening quite frequently lately

P1Tater said:
Nice thread. Worth a sticky since it seems to be happening quite frequently lately
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Thanks to much I have learned from Master Jocky_W, I am currently working on hacking o a couple of Jockey's new HardSPL's into MFG variations. This will allow for the checking, formatting & fixing of OS flash memory blocks.
I am just about done I think, & then off to Jock it will go for his comments & keen eye.

GSLEON3 said:
Thanks to much I have learned from Master Jocky_W, I am currently working on hacking o a couple of Jockey's new HardSPL's into MFG variations. This will allow for the checking, formatting & fixing of OS flash memory blocks.
I am just about done I think, & then off to Jock it will go for his comments & keen eye.
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Nice one, I was thinking MFG 3.* HardSPL would be good, but I assumed there was a good reason for them not to exist. Little did I know that's where you were hiding
Great work.
Dave

Good idea with this thread, congratulations.
Just to add something useful for the thread, here is my tip: (for n00bs, or a "newbie-n00bs" since I consider myself a n00b too )
No matter what, DON'T PANIC.
If your phone boots at least partially (the bootloader starts and shows R/G/D versions) maybe its not that bad
I've flashed few times "bad ROMs" and my phone stucked on bootloader. Luckily none of them was that bad that I couldn't recover from it.
What I do first:
disconnect the phone from anything you had it connected to,
and go into bootloader mode (camera button + reset with stylus).
It will show the tricolor+white screen, SPL version on the top and "Serial" at the bottom.
Plug in your USB cable.
If the "Serial" will change into "USB" at the bottom, you are most likely ready to fix the problem
- so flash your phone with new clean ROM now (I would go with clean stock ROM including radio as well)
oh, and don't worry about the ActiveSync info that may be displayed by the RUU app, because you are already in bootloader mode (RUU or KaiserCustomRUU etc, at first disconnects AS in order to set your phone in bootloader mode, thats why the warnings about AS being "green" etc)
HTH

this one isn't covered!
I go right to bootlader and see RUUNBH upper right!
my SPL is 3.56.hard
CPLD-8
I would flash my stock rom BUT i cant get a usb connection to work at all!
mtty doen't work at all!
hmm?!?!?!??
HELP, please!

OrrinS1189 said:
I go right to bootlader and see RUUNBH upper right!
my SPL is 3.56.hard
CPLD-8
I would flash my stock rom BUT i cant get a usb connection to work at all!
mtty doen't work at all!
hmm?!?!?!??
HELP, please!
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Does "USB" show in the bootloader when you connect the USB plug or not?
Dave

yep
yes, those words DO change. But nothing can be done on my PC.

OrrinS1189 said:
yes, those words DO change. But nothing can be done on my PC.
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Have you done the following to get MTTY to work?
* Download mtty.exe
* Disable activesync (connection settings -> uncheck "allow usb connections")
* Connect your Kaiser to PC using USB cable.
* Open mtty, select USB port and click OK.
* Hit ENTER twice, you should see the "Cmd>" prompt.
* Type the command "boot".
Are you using Vista or XP?
Dave

yes again!
i have disabled usb connections through active synch and killed ALL the mobile processes through task mngr. Still, usb port cannot be opened through mtty!
it's crazy! =[
also, when i plug in my tilt, i get a beep beep beep from my PC saying failure to cconnect to hardware. =[
VISTA!!!

OrrinS1189 said:
i have disabled usb connections through active synch and killed ALL the mobile processes through task mngr. Still, usb port cannot be opened through mtty!
it's crazy! =[
also, when i plug in my tilt, i get a beep beep beep from my PC saying failure to cconnect to hardware. =[
VISTA!!!
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I'm leaving work now, but can you trying flashing your carrier ROM from the SD card, that might do it.
Also, try the attached MTTY.
If that don't work, can you find a Windows XP Machince and try the normal MTTY method.
Dave

No Luck
Since I can't establish a usb connection I have no way of getting ANYTHING to my tilt.
I can't access my SD card.
MTTY says command error when I say boot.
I don't think MTTY is connecting.
Does my SPL need to be changed?
If so, how do I change it if I can't get a connection to my tilt at all?

I GOT IT!
i TOOK your advice to flash from my SD my naming a rom KAISIMG.nbh and using my PC to put on card. then i just entered bootlader. I flashed a random new rom (not at&t) and it worked in restoring my phone.
I didn't use a stock rom cause my spl didn't match. thanks for all your help man.

OrrinS1189 said:
i TOOK your advice to flash from my SD my naming a rom KAISIMG.nbh and using my PC to put on card. then i just entered bootlader. I flashed a random new rom (not at&t) and it worked in restoring my phone.
I didn't use a stock rom cause my spl didn't match. thanks for all your help man.
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Glad you got it working.
Dave

good thread
BTW, if you do not have the RUUNBH on the screen, but can't get OS to boot and you didn't flash my patched SPL's for prevention, I now have a solution for those too in my thread (also sticky, so easy to find).

cmonex said:
good thread
BTW, if you do not have the RUUNBH on the screen, but can't get OS to boot and you didn't flash my patched SPL's for prevention, I now have a solution for those too in my thread (also sticky, so easy to find).
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Thanks for this.
I have added this to the Wiki Page. Which I may re-write later to be a little more clear.
Dave

I have re-written most of the Wiki Page to be more than a collection of random Links. It took over an hour, to get right, so please read it.
Now there's really no reason to get stuck.
Thanks
Dave

DaveShaw said:
I have re-written most of the Wiki Page to be more than a collection of random Links. It took over an hour, to get right, so please read it.
Now there's really no reason to get stuck.
Thanks
Dave
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nice update! really useful to all kaiser owners.
btw, you wrote:
"This method will not work if RUUNBH is showing and cannot get the OS to boot even once"
I removed second part if you don't mind, the method doesn't need that as a requirement. (and it will actually unset RUUNBH flag too if the loading of the special SSPL and the flash is successful, but for RUUNBH issue this solution is overkill, because for that "set 16 0" is fine.)

cmonex said:
nice update! really useful to all kaiser owners.
btw, you wrote:
"This method will not work if RUUNBH is showing and cannot get the OS to boot even once"
I removed second part if you don't mind, the method doesn't need that as a requirement. (and it will actually unset RUUNBH flag too if the loading of the special SSPL and the flash is successful, but for RUUNBH issue this solution is overkill, because for that "set 16 0" is fine.)
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Thanks cmonex, I don't even know what that senence means, I wrote it after midnight last night, and I really can't recall what I was thinking.
Cheers
Dave

First, I’m using the ROM L26KDV12. I used the tweaking program that comes with the ROM and I hit done, the phone said to restart the device to get effective or cancel to restart later but I choose to restart the device. So, the Phone restarted and I stuck in bootloader mode.
I tried to re-flash my ROM L26KDV12 and I got the 100% result in the screen but when I restarted the device it was stuck again in bootloader mode. I tried to update the Radio but got no luck also.
So I decided to update the ROM via MicroSD(Dutty’s Diamond V1.9) and I got 100%(complete result on the screen again) but when I did the last instruction of updating the ROM via MicroSD(to restart the device), my phone goes off and I can’t open anymore..
Please I need help..