I'm using a custom ROM (Schap's) but there are some bundled applications that I don't want and are either adding functionality I dislike (like Long Press XXX key) or taking up space. I'd like to remove them but I can't seem to figure out how. Is there a way to do it on device or do I have to start digging in to how the kitchens work and make my own ROM?
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I'm using a custom ROM (Schap's) but there are some bundled applications that I don't want and are either adding functionality I dislike (like Long Press XXX key) or taking up space. I'd like to remove them but I can't seem to figure out how. Is there a way to do it on device or do I have to start digging in to how the kitchens work and make my own ROM?
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This is my second answer on the same question in one day (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368409).
Anyway, It is not possible to delete or remove app or software that is in the rom. Your best bet is to cook your own rom.
Either cook your own or try a super clean ROM and just add those applications you desire. Alex does good lite ROM work. I have also used Dutty's V2 (medium), which I like alot. Another good one is Q-mobile. All of these allow you to do a lot of customization because they pretty much stick with the basics (although each provides great customization).
As for cooking, I'd spend some serious time getting used to a number of different ROMs and truly figuring out what you like and don't like. It's not ridiculously hard, but it's not for a total newbie either - just not sure of your back ground. Check out Alex's kitchen and his wiki. Makes it as easy as it can be made.
Thanks for the quick responses. I'm sure I've got the tech background to cook a rom it's just a time issue. I was hoping for an easy way
I'll guess the best would be to start with say Alex's clean Win6.1 rom and start collecting and adding applications.
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Those of you that know me know I hate BS in my ROM's and with the help of one of the greatest masters of Windows Mobile Tazdio I have made the first HTC Ship clean ROM. Removed is Windows Live apps, SIMmanager, BluetoothSAP, Factory Installed Pictures-Videos, Extra Ringtones...
this rom is fast and clean I will post screen shots of it soon also I made NO registry changes so its just like the HTC ship ROM....
I hope you all enjoy this lots of work went into this project!!!
http://rapidshare.com/files/62180806/CleanHTCship.rar
Only bug is I didn't remove the VoiceSpeed Dail.dll so the icon is still in the settings sorry :/
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Now this is the very light version with NO HTCHome screen and no bugs what so ever just a super fast and stable ROM If the HTCHome screen is not your thing then use this rom! This has standard storage same as shipped ROM
http://rapidshare.com/files/62385138/VeryClean.rar
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BREAKING NEWS!!!
Yes thats right MORE STORAGE BOYS!!!
OK here is is the first BigStorage Version ever made for the Kaiser!! Get it while its hot!! 145.66MB FREE STORAGE!!!!
This is just like the Above roms it includes the HTCHome screen but windows live, Transcriber. SIMmanger, SAPSettings, Ringtones, Pictures and a few other small things removed! This is an Awsome rom and the one I use daily! Also IE scrolling issue has been fixed so no more lock ups!!
http://rapidshare.com/files/63429812/BigStoragePIEFixed.rar
rom still has htc home, soft key applet and other stuff that comes in HTC rom.
A clean rom should not have any extra junk like htc home only essential apps. I hope someone will do a real clean rom, this rom still has adobe, audio maanger, bluetooth explorer and java, world card mobile and streaming media and zip. Not very clean
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rom still has htc home, soft key applet and other stuff that comes in HTC rom.
A clean rom should not have any extra junk like htc home only essential apps. I hope someone will do a real clean rom, this rom still has adobe, audio maanger, bluetooth explorer and java, world card mobile and streaming media and zip. Not very clean
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Isnt this the first cooked rom? Maybe we could be a bit less picky and a bit more constructive hmmmm? He does great work on the 8525 or tytn and currently Im using that on my 8525, by far the fastest I have seen. My advice is take what you can get if you dont know how to do it yourself or at least not discourage his work.
well said, austinsync exemplifies the very meaning of contributing member.
-ds
Great news guys !!
Seems cooking finally arrive to Kaiser.... Thanks, mate...
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Isnt this the first cooked rom? Maybe we could be a bit less picky and a bit more constructive hmmmm? He does great work on the 8525 or tytn and currently Im using that on my 8525, by far the fastest I have seen. My advice is take what you can get if you dont know how to do it yourself or at least not discourage his work.
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Actually it's the second, but still, I don't think it's that mcq3000 doesn't appreciate austinsync's effort. We're all grateful to have the cooks fixing Microsoft's mess. But he does have a point. As far as clean ROMs go, this just isn't one of them. It's not that it's bad, but he just shouldn't be calling it a CLEAN ROM, that's all.
Nice job austinsnyc. A lot of people will enjoy a good streamlined ROM.
Here's my opinion on the "clean ROM" issue a couple people are having. I personally think this is a "clean ROM". I don't believe austinsnyc's intention with this was to create a stripped down base ROM to be used for cooking. I think he put together a nice ROM with all the extra junk taken out that took up space and degraded performance. The items that were left in (and mentioned in the original protest) allow for the same familiar look and feel and to make it possible to use this ROM on a daily basis without the need to install a ton of apps to make it useable.
But, that's just my opinion.
GOOD job ausitnsync!
Please, can you remove the HTC HOME plugin too or make an another version like this but without the HOME plugin.
Taken out Windows Live is without taken Windows Live Messenger out, isn't it? Good job!!!
Smartdialing is handy to call somebody quick, please hold that.
Voicedialing function is also handy, I use it in the car. -> question: you wrote you removed the icon but it's still in Settings.
I haven't the Kaiser yet, but in my Prophet it's in Settings. Is in the Kaiser in Programs an icon too?
I like this cooking
Thanks Austin. I prefer this version of cooking. I think I will keep this. Very responsive..... scrollwheel and button press etc. Thanks for your effort
This looks to be just what I'm after.
However as a newbie, what do I need to do to install this on my Kaiser.
Yes I know there's a load of stickies at the top of this forum, but I'm somewhat lost on which one I actually need.
Thanks.
Speedmaster said:
This looks to be just what I'm after.
However as a newbie, what do I need to do to install this on my Kaiser.
Yes I know there's a load of stickies at the top of this forum, but I'm somewhat lost on which one I actually need.
Thanks.
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There are only 4 stickies at the moment, not too much reading, but you really shouldnt try ROM flashing until you have read and understood them all. The Hermes Wiki has more information regarding upgrading/flashing.
@mcq3000 if you think you can do better, feel free to post your own Lite ROM.
@austinsnyc Congratulaions and thanks for your work, How much memory is free after a reboot?
Thanks Wizzard.
I done many an update on my old Mio A701, but not a Kaiser. That's appeared simple compared with the various thread regarding upgrading the Kaiser (and other HTC based products).
Guess what I mean is, the above ROM is still in essence(spelling) a standard one with stuff removed. Do I still need to treat it as a full blown ROM update. I don't want to download various programs to update the ROM unless I need to?
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Kevin
Thanks austinsnyc !
Thanks for a nice and fast ROM, your timing is perfect I only got my wizard last tuesday I'm looking forward to new builds and releases
Thanks to all involved in the cooking for getting this to work so fast
To end the debate on this I can call it anything I like since I am the one that made it this was a test to see if we can start cooking rom's with the new tools that where made and I was kind enough to share it with the rest of you.... some of you might know that I don't take requests to take this out or that out. I build roms so that I can use them on a daily basis with out having to install tons of apps, all you have to do is set up your personal settings on your good to go. all this rom is showing is that we are well on are way to rom cooking and that where are headed down the right path.
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rom still has htc home, soft key applet and other stuff that comes in HTC rom.
A clean rom should not have any extra junk like htc home only essential apps. I hope someone will do a real clean rom, this rom still has adobe, audio maanger, bluetooth explorer and java, world card mobile and streaming media and zip. Not very clean
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all great apps that I yes I would have to reinstall again if i took them out!
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To end the debate on this I can call it anything I like since I am the one that made it this was a test to see if we can start cooking rom's with the new tools that where made and I was kind enough to share it with the rest of you soon of you might know that I don't take requests to take this out or that out I build roms so that I can use them on a daily basis with out having to install tons of apps all you have to do is set up your personal settings on your good to go. all this rom is showing is that we are well on are way to rom cooking and that where are headed down the right path.
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Please can you write a manual how you did this so people can do that at their own.
For example what I do right now at my Qtek S200:
Once I copied al .cab files to a SD Card and keep these cabs on my PC.
When I do a hardreset, at the moment the device want to install the Extended Rom I do a soft reset. Then I've a standard/clear WM system and then I install the Qtek cabs those I want.
Something like this is what I want to do too with the TyTN II. At first the HTC HOME plugin, it's too big, not handy and take too much resources.
Thank you in forward!
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To end the debate on this I can call it anything I like since I am the one that made it this was a test to see if we can start cooking rom's with the new tools that where made and I was kind enough to share it with the rest of you soon of you might know that I don't take requests to take this out or that out I build roms so that I can use them on a daily basis with out having to install tons of apps all you have to do is set up your personal settings on your good to go. all this rom is showing is that we are well on are way to rom cooking and that where are headed down the right path.
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Thanks bro, also we are pending.
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Please can you write a manual how you did this so people can do that at their own.
For example what I do right now at my Qtek S200:
Once I copied al .cab files to a SD Card and keep these cabs on my PC.
When I do a hardreset, at the moment the device want to install the Extended Rom I do a soft reset. Then I've a standard/clear WM system and then I install the Qtek cabs those I want.
Something like this is what I want to do too with the TyTN II. At first the HTC HOME plugin, it's too big, not handy and take too much resources.
Thank you in forward!
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there is no EXT_Rom in the kaiser it is simply following a config file to install cabs to the windows directory. the tools to cook roms will be released as soon as they are finished they are almost done untill then no I can not release them as I did not make them I simply test for someone
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Those of you that know me know I hate BS in Removed is Windows Live apps, SIMmanager, BluetoothSAP, Factory Installed Pictures-Videos, Extra Ringtones...
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Nice work, but isn't the SIM Manager kind of a pretty important app?
Hi folks,
I've read volumes of posts about all kinds of wonderful cooked ROMs in addition to the many shipped/oem and HTC ROMs that are available for the Kaiser. It's been a challenge to figure out a way to pick one and I am hoping to get a little guidance from some of you have have tried many of these ROMs already.
I have an AT&T Tilt and I have recently tried the 2nd HTC wm61 ROM (the one that can't reboot itself.) If it wasn't for the fact that it keeps locking up on me (seems like something that happens when an Alarm goes off?) I would probably be happy with it. I like to have the newest stuff, but that locking up (the phone won't receive calls, sometimes the whole thing just seizes up) just won't work for me.
I'm looking for a ROM that is close to a stock 6.1 but with most of the user applications left out so I can choose my own to install. I'd like to find one that pretty much looks like a stock ROM (menus and apps placed in the typcial locations) but just as lite as possible so I can select my own audio player, etc.
Can anybody suggest which of the various cooked ROMs I should look at? I just don't have the time to look at all the great stuff that is available right now, so I'd appreciate any thoughts you have to limit the ROMs I should look at.
Thanks very much for any guidance. Please let me know if I have left out any important considerations you would want to know before suggesting choices.
thanks again,
rjb
rjbeep said:
Hi folks,
I've read volumes of posts about all kinds of wonderful cooked ROMs in addition to the many shipped/oem and HTC ROMs that are available for the Kaiser. It's been a challenge to figure out a way to pick one and I am hoping to get a little guidance from some of you have have tried many of these ROMs already.
I have an AT&T Tilt and I have recently tried the 2nd HTC wm61 ROM (the one that can't reboot itself.) If it wasn't for the fact that it keeps locking up on me (seems like something that happens when an Alarm goes off?) I would probably be happy with it. I like to have the newest stuff, but that locking up (the phone won't receive calls, sometimes the whole thing just seizes up) just won't work for me.
I'm looking for a ROM that is close to a stock 6.1 but with most of the user applications left out so I can choose my own to install. I'd like to find one that pretty much looks like a stock ROM (menus and apps placed in the typcial locations) but just as lite as possible so I can select my own audio player, etc.
Can anybody suggest which of the various cooked ROMs I should look at? I just don't have the time to look at all the great stuff that is available right now, so I'd appreciate any thoughts you have to limit the ROMs I should look at.
Thanks very much for any guidance. Please let me know if I have left out any important considerations you would want to know before suggesting choices.
thanks again,
rjb
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The only way to find out which ROM is for you is to take the TIME and find out......
try Duttys newest lite ROM, so how it goes
my first flash was Dutty's about a week ago. So far so good...unlike the oem ROM, the phone hasn't lock up on me yet.
Hi Everyone...
I did something to my phone and now I am looking to reflash it. I loved how I had my phone, but thought maybe a newer rom would help me out... I had the stock 6.0 installed. I used it primarly with TomTom.. I have the HTC Home installed and love it, but if touch flo is cool I would consider that as well.. I also love all the S2U, S2P, etc and other applications that made it very finger friendly, I like to be able to see what I have scheduled at a glance.. I do a lot of TXT messaging... I also like to play games on it (I use the nintendo enulator a lot) I have a 16gb microSD card so I have plentry of room if it need to install on the card as well (I had a Motorola MPX200 that I had to do that with). I also use Voice Command often. I would like instant messaging to be a breeze.
My Cellphone Service Provider is not AT&T (Einstein Wireless) and I would need to be able to put all the settings for them for internet and otehr network setting into it... so I need no AT&T bloatware or special software... I do take some pictures with my phone from time to time... so if there was a "Better" camera program that would be cool too...
I am hoping that there is a rom that has most of all of these features cooked in so setup will be a time saver... I know I will still ahve to manually enter the carrier info, but the extra software and stuff would be great.. If you are using a rom that does most of this and you love, let me know.. I am looking ot do this tomorrow..
Before this gets closed by the mods, our general suggestion is to try the different cooked ROMs available. The threads for each should show a list of applications included with the ROMs, so you can determine from the included apps if it is a ROM you are willing to try. If you have never flashed a cooked ROM, please check out the Wiki for instructions to prepare your phone for flashing cooked ROMs. It will save you a lot of headache.
You'd be better to try a few of the cooked ROMs and see what you like. The ROM's on the first two pages are the most popular ones at the moment. See what they contain from the firs few pages.
Thread closed as per guidelines.
Dave
Well I'm sad to say but all the ROMs I have tried in the past couple of weeks haven't worked for me...
The story of my ROMs experimentation starts with T-Mobile Vario III and T-Mobile customized ROM. In short, like a worst nightmare! New version of T-Mobile customized ROM, nothing happened, everything was exactly same as with previous version.
Then I finally decided to try couple of WM 6.5 ROMs which worked like a charm but WM 6.5 is beta and half of the stuff in it is unfinished... Back to 6.1...
Than: HyperDragon (a few variants), shifu, Paradox, AthineOS, TPCExtreme, Ultimate-X... Mostly SuperRam ROMs... Hundred of pages in topics, dozens of fixes, black screens, restarts and so on... Applications that I don't need, folders confusingly organized, startup and bootup screens that don't fit to one business phone, black background icons (what's wrong with WM icons with transparent background) and so on...
Currently using stock HTC ROM and it works. It is sluggish but my device doesn't restart and I don't have to install at least 5 programs or fixes to make him work...
My question: Can someone point me to ROM that works without reading through 100 pages of topics and installing fixes for stuff that should work like notification and volume control? I use my Kasier as a business phone and primary e-mail reading device and I can't afford for my Kaiser to be offline for couple of hours (not to mention a day) and don't have time to read thousands of posts of "how-to-fix".
What do I need? Messaging (SMS and e-mail with notifications working), Opera, iGO, working Volume control, Bluetooth and jog wheel to be able to quickly quite my device if in a meeting or to change the volume of speaker when in a call.
I don't mean to disrespect all the chef's around and I do appreciate your work because for most of people around here you make their Kaisers work the way they should work!
s1m0n.lfs said:
Well I'm sad to say but all the ROMs I have tried in the past couple of weeks haven't worked for me...
The story of my ROMs experimentation starts with T-Mobile Vario III and T-Mobile customized ROM. In short, like a worst nightmare! New version of T-Mobile customized ROM, nothing happened, everything was exactly same as with previous version.
Then I finally decided to try couple of WM 6.5 ROMs which worked like a charm but WM 6.5 is beta and half of the stuff in it is unfinished... Back to 6.1...
Than: HyperDragon (a few variants), shifu, Paradox, AthineOS, TPCExtreme, Ultimate-X... Mostly SuperRam ROMs... Hundred of pages in topics, dozens of fixes, black screens, restarts and so on... Applications that I don't need, folders confusingly organized, startup and bootup screens that don't fit to one business phone, black background icons (what's wrong with WM icons with transparent background) and so on...
Currently using stock HTC ROM and it works. It is sluggish but my device doesn't restart and I don't have to install at least 5 programs or fixes to make him work...
My question: Can someone point me to ROM that works without reading through 100 pages of topics and installing fixes for stuff that should work like notification and volume control? I use my Kasier as a business phone and primary e-mail reading device and I can't afford for my Kaiser to be offline for couple of hours (not to mention a day) and don't have time to read thousands of posts of "how-to-fix".
What do I need? Messaging (SMS and e-mail with notifications working), Opera, iGO, working Volume control, Bluetooth and jog wheel to be able to quickly quite my device if in a meeting or to change the volume of speaker when in a call.
I don't mean to disrespect all the chef's around and I do appreciate your work because for most of people around here you make their Kaisers work the way they should work!
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If you want you machine to work right off the rip I would stay with a stock rom. while all the roms here are great unforseen prob do come up. While the cooks try to help fix it they do it for fun and have other matters to attend to.
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If you want you machine to work right off the rip I would stay with a stock rom. while all the roms here are great unforseen prob do come up. While the cooks try to help fix it they do it for fun and have other matters to attend to.
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I totally agree...
Anyway, if you look at the way PDACorner organized his post, you'll see that on post #2, there is a list of known bug with links to all fixes... This is really a way of organizing things that I personnally like very much and can save you from reading 1000s of posts for getting the info...
Flashing is for those of us who want to make our phones perfect, the best Apps, the best speed, the very best function and style. We don't mind a little work to or reading to get them " exactly " the way we want it.
I have worked at getting My phone perfect ( also a business phone ) and it is. None of the problems that you seem to think are inherent in every cooked rom.
You sound to me like the stock rom type not the cooked rom type. Do it HTC's way and stick with the stock rom.
There is a huge difference between stock roms and cooked roms. Stock roms are meant to work flawlessly, without bugs and without too many additional software. The default configuration will work, will (most likely) not crash, but won't do anything fancy either. It might also be slow at times.
Cooked roms are made for those who would like to experiment. People who don't mind a crash now or then, and don't mind to reflash every day/week/month (tick the one that applies ).
If i would use my phone for business purposes i would probably stay with the stock ROM or flash a stable 6.1 ROM, like PDACorner's.
Nevertheless there is no such thing as a perfect ROM. Every ROM has it's advantages as well as disadvantages. Live with it; Windows Mobile just isn't a perfect mobile OS, while doubting the fact any OS can be...
I switch ROM's on a regulary basis. Basic functions always work, no matter the ROM. I flash because additional features work better/faster/more stable on certain ROM's than others. But this requires some of your time, to flash and set everything up again.
The fun is that all of this is up to you. If you like to experiment, then flash as much as you like until you find something you like. There will always be certain flaws where you will have to live with.
There is no such thing as perfect ROM! Always remember to keep flashing and keep reading!
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Stock roms are meant to work flawlessly, without bugs and without too many additional software. The default configuration will work, will (most likely) not crash, but won't do anything fancy either. It might also be slow at times.
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Work flawlessly Without bugs The Default configuration will work
What stock rom were you using
Do you also think that Vista is flawless and without bugs
denco7 said:
Work flawlessly Without bugs The Default configuration will work
What stock rom were you using
Do you also think that Vista is flawless and without bugs
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Read, my friend. I said they are meant to work without bugs and work flawlessly in a default configuration. You won't hear me say that they always do.
Nevertheless the stock ROM will in most cases do sort of everything the way it is meant to be. The change of finding broken application links or errors from mortscript i.e., is pretty small, if not none. And if these errors do appear, you've obviously bought a phone of bad quality.
This said, i'm not using a stock ROM myself. In that case i wouldn't reply to this topic. I'm someone, just like the rest here i suppose, who likes to switch to the newest, even though the quality might be worse then what i've had. But i'm always in for something new, which you might not be if you're using you phone for business purposes and do very much rely on the call quality, for example.
It's simple really either you stick to stocks or you become a flasher @ which point you will flash untill you find that ROM that you know can be used every day and still carry on flashin to try find a new better ROM if you don't like or got bugz you flash back to your every day ROM......
If it all seems tooo much and your a person who can't problem solve "read" and also put in the time to set up device as you wish then a stock is best bet.
Goverment Health Warning:
After flashing you may suffer from Flashers OCD!!!
Goverment Health Warning:
After flashing you may suffer from Flashers OCD!!! [/QUOTE]
Then you have one last choice in picking up a kitchen and learning to cook your own rom, but above warning still applies.
yes
As it has been said, rom flashing is personal preference, please find the perfect one for you whether it is a oem or custom rom through searching and flashing.
Closing thread,
Peace,
Joshua
Hats off to everyone on this forum. It's been awhile since I been on here and I am happy to see it still going strong.
I am new to the S8+ and new to modding in 2019. I haven't messed around with this stuff since the "getting the evo to work on boost" days. I am looking for some advise/recommendations on what to choose as far as roms, etc., from the gate from someone who may have had an experience in what I'm trying to achieve rather than going through hundreds of rom post to find the answer I'm looking for. I stepped away from "smart" phones for awhile and came back only when I found out I could lock them down as much as possible using programs like bk disabler (rip). Even root at the time didn't list the "apps in the background" (if you know what I mean) for me to edit or disable them.
I am looking to root (if needed anymore) my device and install an ultra slim/lite rom, no extra apps on it that don't need to be there, especially social media apps. Not sure if roms still come with a separate gaps install option but not having them is fine as well as I will not be signing into any account on my phone and will only want to use youtube as far as the only goog service used, so i wont be able to use any of them anyway besides tube (unless of course there is now a way to use maps and such without signing in?). If theres such a rom out there of course it would need to be stable. I do not want android 9 as none of the apps I actually use (like bk disabler/acr/etc) work with pie from what I have read. Goog wants all the tracking to themselves now I guess, hence why I am looking for a rom that is as slim as possible. I just want to make calls, text, browse the web and use the tube without having all kinds of accounts and sign ups for any of it. I am really tired of big tech but going back to a black and white nokia in 2019 is not an option anymore.
So a few questions I have would be.. Whats the best root process? I see Odin is still a thing so which version should I be using, also which kernel should I be using? Are different roms still based off different kernels, if so which is better? And lastly what rom should I choose or which rom creator is now the person to look out for?
I know I'm oldshool at this point so please bare with me on these questions. Any help in pointing me in the right direction would be very much appreciated. Thanks!