My Tilt was shipped with a rom version 1.57.502.2, and radio 1.27.12.11, and the first few calls i made, i realized that i could hear my own voice on the speaker. at first i thought it was a problem with the network, but it never went away, after a couple weeks of use. So then i started to think that maybe it was meant to be like this, ie some form of feedback, and i did start to like it. oh, and i forgot to mention, i had to do an exchange the very first day, the tilt had a stuck pixel, but i still have not sent it back yet.
Finally having enough fun with bloated at&t rom, i decided to flash Alex's v5 home rom, and after the flash i notice that the voice feedback was gone. so i popped my sim back into my other tilt (the one i was supposed to send back), and made a call, and it still did have that voice feedback.
So out of curiosity, i flashed the tilt with Alex's rom back to the original at&t rom, and the voice feedback came back. Now this makes me wonder, was the voice feedback a bug in the rom version, or was it done on purpose? Any other Tilt users with the at&t rom notice this on their phone?
Now if it was done on purpose, this would be something i would like to enable, cause i did find it easier to talk with the feedback. If this has been discussed before then i'm sorry, but i searched as much as i could and all i could find was a few tilt users complaining about hearing their own voice.
I noticed it when I hard reset my phone yesterday, but it went away after the first soft reset... Running AT&T Stock WM6, I thought it was just me
Yes, I have this too on my 2 day old Tilt! Was thinking about returning the phone because of it!
I find it really annoying and disconcerting.
I'm glad I am not the only one. I'm about to flash to the HTC TYTN II shipping ROM.
Will let you know if this fixes it!
yep I get and echo sound some times.
Also had it on my wizard.
I am running Alex Ultra clean v4
Sorry, would you mind clarifying...
Is it a hardware problem? Does everyone have this or do you think some devices are faulty.
I really do not like this issue.
Thanks for your info.
same here..
when i first got mine a couple months ago i could hear my self in the speaker, its either gone now, or i dont notice it any more .
Squuiid said:
Sorry, would you mind clarifying...
Is it a hardware problem? Does everyone have this or do you think some devices are faulty.
I really do not like this issue.
Thanks for your info.
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its definitely not hardware cause it went away when i flash a different rom, came back again after i flash the original at&t rom
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The symptoms: SOMETIMES during incoming phonecalls Raphael rings (plays sound) but when I pick up the call, suddenly the phone sort of "mutes itself". I can't hear the person talking, nor can they hear me, even if I hang up and try later. The only thing that helps is a soft reset.
It's difficult to count the occurence, but I'd say like once a day at least.
I have already tried Hard reset, the phone is acting funny with only Advanced Config 3.1 and PHM RegEdit installed and a few tweaks applied (just Boost TFL3D performance tweaks and SMS conversation disabled)
I'm running stock 1.90.401.1 WWE FW, I have flashed a new radio version (1.02.25.31 Cingular) though.
Any advice/suggestion is appreciated.
Unless the new radio is giving you 3G, I'd go back to the stock ROM/radio combination and see if that works. I'm currently using the Cingular ROM/radio as well and I've never run into these problems, but that may be due to different hardware.
Thank you very much for a quick reply.
I'll try flashing the stock radio and will report back...
So, I flashed the original radio and it seemed for a while that the problem was gone.
Sadly, I must report that the problem is persistant as I had to restart my phone right now. When the "sound mute" thing happens I don't hear anything while answering phone calls (even though the phone rings normally!) and also when I try calling any number from my contacts including the operator hotline.
I really don't want to return the phone because I like it very much but having a phone which has problems with phone calls is kind of silly.
I'm at my wit's end.
Will anyone help me please?
I have a small update - today I was so desperate, that I tried flashing a custom ROM (namely DCS-TouchPro-v1.0 Hybrid) and the phone went bonkers right at the first incoming call. However, something IS different - now the phone is not silent but starts "buzzing" - making a long uninterruptible sound that lasts until reset.
Do you think I could have a HW problem?
I HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM!!!
I already posted a message in the "Issues" post of the Raphael Forum, but apparently no one had the same issue so far.
I did many hard resets (and installing gradually less things), it still bugs.
Currently the only tweak installed is the scorpion one to have 4 rows of icons in a menu.
My Raphael is behaving like this since 1 week. The bug occurs once or twice a day as well.
Anybody with some good IT experience has got an idea of what could be wrong with it?
Do you think it is more software related or hardware related?
Today it also crashed badly (grey doted screen and noway to make it work again by turning off. Had to soft reset).
PLEASE DO HELP US, because I'm using the phone for professional reasons and I'll really have to send it back if it keeps on bugging this badely!!!
I just sent a message to HTC Support.
Let's see what they say.
I'll post their response so those who have the same problem will know what to do.
Oh boy, I must say I'm glad not to be the only one with this problem, even though I never wish bad things to anyone.
While googling the problem, I found a few Diamond users with exactly the same symptoms, however most of them solved this by exchanging the device for a new one, so this won't help us much...
Me too, I was wondering if it was because I did something wrong with the phone...
But if I'm not the only it means that there is a problem with the phone itself.
Anyway I'll wait for the official answer from HTC...
I'll post their answer as soon as I receive it.
I'm actually quite curious what their answer will be.
But I wouldn't hold my breath for any miracle, so I'm preparing to send my phone to the service center to have them look at it...
Well.. that makes 3 of us then
at first i thought my symptoms are different, but Flippy confirmed they're identical.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2611523#post2611523
I have to correct myself - I wrote that when the thing happens, the phone still rings, which is not true. It rings just the first time before the problem occurs, but then it's dead silent.
So it seems our symptoms really are exactly the same.
Told ya AntiProxy!
So we are indeed only 3. It is still ok, it means that there is only a very small proportion of of Touch Pro that have this problem.
Now let's only wait HTC's answer...
spoke to HTC support today.
not that i expected them to figure it out or have a solution at hand, but i figured what the heck.. give it a shot.
their solution?
hard reset.. the guy would swear by his daughter that a hard reset will solve it.
i just thanked him and hung up.. *sigh*
don't you just hate it when techsupport's solution to everything is a reboot or reformat.. when you know that's not the solution anyway!
Well, I tried already doing the "Clear Storage" through the settings -> system panel, but it still has got the same problem.
I'll give them a call aswell to see if by any chance I can get on the phone 1 person who will be able to provide us a better technical advice
Hard reset won't help, I've already done it like dozen times and it makes no difference...
I tried flashing the phone to the stock 1.90.405.1 ROM and so far (a day and half) I have NOT encountered the problem. It is too early to start hoping, but I wanted to let you know - if you don't mind flashing your phone, give it a try.
Zillator, can you keep us posted for like 1 week?
If in 1 week the phone doesn't present again that problem I'll flash it as well (I didn't want to flash it because I wasn't sure if it could void the warranty). If during 1 week you don't have the problem again it'll mean that out initial ROM was defective...
Thank you Zillator and please let us know. (by the way when I'll call them tomorrow I'll ask them if flashing the ROM to a newer stock version voids the warranty).
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I tried flashing the phone to the stock 1.90.405.1 ROM and so far (a day and half) I have NOT encountered the problem.
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only thing is.. my phone is still running the stock ROM as it is!
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only thing is.. my phone is still running the stock ROM as it is!
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AntiProxy, it might be a bug in the ROM we have in our machines. That's why maybe flash it could be the solution. Nevertheless I'll ask about the warranty tomorrow when I call them and let's see how it goes to Zillator.
If his phone doesn't bug for 1 week, there might be a big probability that the problem came indeed from our ROMs.
Guys, don't worry, I WILL keep you updated. I know how much the problem bothers me, so if there's anything I can do to help you, I will definitely do it.
In the end, that's why we are here - to help each other...
AntiProxy: is your stock ROM 1.90.405.1 WWE? Because mine was different (1.90.401.1 WWE) and I had the problem. Maybe Flippy_TK is right and the problem only exists in the 401 ROM.
I'll continue testing and we'll see...
Hi,
I got the XDA Diamond Pro (Touch Pro O2 germany) yesterday.
During a call,the phone generates a terrible, slightly timeshifted echo of the own voice. The voice of the other person is normal and the other person doesnt hear an echo. I have tried it several times with different persons and networks (mobile + landline)...always the same phenomenon...sometimes more or less.
Is this normal with the Touch Pro? Do you also have this echo while making a call?
regards
10mabo
(sorry, my english is probably not the best)
Nobody with the same problem? Are your Touch Pros without echos?
No prob for me. Never heard something similar. What about your signal strength? Do you have good reception?
No problem here aswell.
tried a hard-reset already? I noticed that my TP worked better after I did a hard-reset (more stable and quicker), dunno why though.
Thank you for the replys!
So it seems that my device is not working properly :-(
It´s already on the way back to the provider.
regards
Holy crap! I just got another exchanged fuze and it's having the same issue. I'll try flashing to a new rom and see if that works.
When I first got the phone I noticed that my voice would echo but it stopped happening on its own. I think it was occurring because of bad reception. At that time my phone was having major problems with the data connection also and I figured it had something to do with ATT's towers.
I have experienced this echo, too, but considered it to come from reception problems as it does not happen on a regular basis. I.e. some calls are experiencing this echo, some do not.
CU,
Cactus World
I assume you mean flashing another radio rom, right? I have this issue on my Fuze as well. I flashed to NATF's rom, but am still running the stock radio rom that came with my phone: 1.02.25.32.
Did a different radio rom help you??
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Holy crap! I just got another exchanged fuze and it's having the same issue. I'll try flashing to a new rom and see if that works.
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I changed my radio to 1.08.25.20, but I still have the echo. Do you think this is a hardware or software issue? Thanks!
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I assume you mean flashing another radio rom, right? I have this issue on my Fuze as well. I flashed to NATF's rom, but am still running the stock radio rom that came with my phone: 1.02.25.32.
Did a different radio rom help you??
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I had the same problem I think with mine. It went away after a while when I was using NATF v2.2 but then when I flashed to v2.3 it came back. This was because the incall volume went down. So increase the volume when you're in a call and that should fix it.
I'm not sure if this is the same problem, but the same thing has happened to me with both the Fuze and the Tilt. What I think the issue was though was that there was a slight lag between the time I said something and the time the sound came out of the earpiece on the other phone. The other phone's mic would pickup the sound of my voice and send it back to me. Very annoying. The problem was always solved when the person I was talking to switched to headset.
Same issue
I am experiencing the same issue, but it does seem to come and go depending on the in-call volume settings.
Obviously, no problems on speakerphone, which I use frequently.
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Stock Radio, Stock Rom, no bloat
I just switched away from NATF v2.3 to aruppenthal's ver2 final ROM and the echo has cleared up! Thought I'd share in case others want to try...
I have had my fuze for about a year now, and recently people cannot hear me when I call them. If they call me they can hear me just fine, but not if I make the call.
Another thing is that i have a problem with the tf3d interface crashing. It usually crashes at least once every 2 or 3 days and a maximum of about 3 times per day.
I would note that I am using the stock ROM and using WinMo 6.1. The only changes i have made are theme applications.
Does anyone else have either of these problems? Does anyone know if there is a way to fix them? I am going to the ATT store soon and hopefully they will just give me a new one lol
Thanx!
You know the drill....
Soft reset - test, hard reset - test.
I know its a pain in the a$$ but its always the start point!
I have been experienceing the same problems as well. What is volume level at in Windows Meadia Player? Some times I have to have the volume in wmp at 100%, for the other person to hear me on the other line. Manlia runs so slow on the stock rom that I do not even use the UI. It is probley not crashing but takeing forever to load.
Most stock ROMs are horrendous anyway, hardSPL and flash I say!
thanks for all your input. i dunno how many times i tried resetting, both hard and soft. the soft reset was usually the fastest way to fix it when touchflo crashed. with regard to WMP: 100%. i have no idea how that is relevant but an interesting find. I more or less ran out of options since this phone is my lifeline so i filed a warranty claim. should have the new one in a few days! w00t! hopefully this one works better
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Most stock ROMs are horrendous anyway, hardSPL and flash I say!
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True! but not always helpful!
killerscene14 said:
thanks for all your input. i dunno how many times i tried resetting, both hard and soft. the soft reset was usually the fastest way to fix it when touchflo crashed. with regard to WMP: 100%. i have no idea how that is relevant but an interesting find. I more or less ran out of options since this phone is my lifeline so i filed a warranty claim. should have the new one in a few days! w00t! hopefully this one works better
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Wish you'd said you had tried various resets, please remember we can only help you based on what you tell us.
Also, the TF problem is almost certainly software, and the call problem (IMO) is 98% sw also (the hardware works - you said if you call out everything is good) - so you may well run into the same issues again.
Sorry to give you bad news, and i hope your new phone works - but i honestly think most of your problems were software related, so they may not be (custom rom might be the answer!)
So my thunderbolt has been overall great but i have this problem where if someone calls me they cant hear me but i can hear them and i can hear myself in my own speaker. is it a setting problem? i also flashed the latest radio for GB on the Infected Synergy Rom.
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So my thunderbolt has been overall great but i have this problem where if someone calls me they cant hear me but i can hear them and i can hear myself in my own speaker. is it a setting problem? i also flashed the latest radio for GB on the Infected Synergy Rom.
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I've literally had that same issue on almost every device I've used on Verizon and Alltel at some point. Some areas it's happened a lot in, other almost never. I'm hesitant to say it's the device because of my experience. I think it's something quirky with the network. For me, if I just call them back it works fine. It used to happen almost every time I called my Mom. Second call was a charm though. Then it mostly stopped... about the time she got off that damn Motorola and onto a BlackBerry... but it still happens occasionally.
yeah =[ ive never had this problem though and its constantly doing it because i was originally on cm7 but it started to i flashed another rom and it worked for a couple of calls at first but now no calls go through and im afraid to call verizon since im rooted but idk what to do =[ thanked you btw
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yeah =[ ive never had this problem though and its constantly doing it because i was originally on cm7 but it started to i flashed another rom and it worked for a couple of calls at first but now no calls go through and im afraid to call verizon since im rooted but idk what to do =[ thanked you btw
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eh.... I've called them with issues on both my rooted HTCs. It's never been a problem. I've talked to guys there about their rooted Androids. If they tell you to do this or that, either play super-stupid or BS your way through it and get them to put a work order out to check out things on their end. If that doesn't solve it, then it's time to go back to stock and exchange some hardware or something.
i was just experimenting and it turns out after like 25 secs they could hear me but im still lost on why
I recently got my MyTouch4g Slide. I used Revolutionary tool to S-OFF the device, and all was well.
After a day of usage, I began using the Bluetooth hands free in my 2010 Chevy Equinox. The connection synchronizes, no problem. All the hands free buttons work, and everything appears functional. However -- I have no audio, either mic. or speakers, from the bluetooth. I have to activate the handset to have a conversation, rendering the bluetooth useless.
Before I reached out to anyone, I performed the RUU installation from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178082. It reverted my hboot, system, etc back to stock. However -- it is still S-OFF. So how do we get S-ON back on this phone?
Regarding the bluetooth -- I began escalating to Tmobile and GM. GM said there's nothing wrong with my Bluetooth (it works with all my previous 3 phones OK). Tmobile says this is not a known issue.
I called HTC support, and they said it sounds like a phone hardware issue with the phone.
I would like to know two things, which I cannot find searching the MT4G Slide forums:
* How can S-ON be restored? (I thought the RUU would handle this). I want to know in case I have to send it back to HTC.
* Has anyone had these bluetooth problems, before I send it in for a replacement?
Thanks!
I just got my 4G Slide yesterday, and haven't yet paired it with my '10 Equinox.
I'll do that tomorrow and let you know if it works or not.
I haven't had any issues with bluetooth on my JVC deck, but there is no problem sending back an S-OFF'd device, I've sent back several with no issues. Some devices are factory S-OFF, plus they never check returns.
Thank you both for the feedback.
jonnycat26, Please let me know what happens when you pair with your '10 Equinox. It's great to have someone with the same device and car make to test, to confirm if it is in fact my device.
I was able to successfully make a call without any issues. Or at least, I had audio when I did (call went to VM, and I did not leave a message).
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I was able to successfully make a call without any issues. Or at least, I had audio when I did (call went to VM, and I did not leave a message).
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jonnycat26,
You were able to hear audio and use the mic in your 2010 Equinox?
I guess this confirms I have a hardware issue. Sucks.
Thanks again!
Seeing as the Bluetooth worked for you & GM believes it's a phone defect, I am getting a replacement from Tmobile.
I know you already said you are getting a replacement, and for as expensive as this piece of hardware is - I wouldn't do anything different.
Figured i'd chime in though, have no issues pairing and using my bluetooth headset. Lets me do voice and listen through the headset.
My hands free (genius) mode works, though I don't use it.
I have a bluetooth game controller coming, somewhere in the mail. I know that's a whole other animal with it's own set of issues, but i'll let you know how that goes.
Thanks for posting about this, though, and it's lucky you found someone with the same stuff to test and compare. Bluetooth is going to be the next focus of my attention, I think, so i'm soaking up everything I hear about it now.
If anyone has found a way to make it S-ON, i'd love to know just to know, but it shouldn't be a problem with warranty issues if it was S-OFF.
The worst part of this for me is I have only had this phone since Friday. Further, it was a replacement for a faulty LG G2X, which I had RMA'd three times, and was about to cancel my service before they finally offered me a different phone.
So this will make my fourth return to Tmobile (three G2x, now a MT4G Slide) in the past three weeks. I have also spent about 30hours on the phone with them in the past three weeks.
I am truly exhausted dealing with this, but I really like this phone (the G2X sucked). So I am giving it one more shot.
They are sending me a new phone again, and not a refurb, so that's nice.
It's worth it.
I'm on my second one, I returned my first one. They took it back without hesitation, so even if you have to go through one or two at the beginning it's worth it.
You have the first few days after you get it, to exchange a defect for a working model. With this phone, it's absolutely worth it. Too expensive to walk around with a damaged one - especially from the door.
Your patience will be rewarded with an awesome piece of tech in your hands, it's amazing what you can do with this device.
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jonnycat26,
You were able to hear audio and use the mic in your 2010 Equinox?
I guess this confirms I have a hardware issue. Sucks.
Thanks again!
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I was able to hear the audio without any issue. My call went to VM, and I didn't leave a message, so I can't say for sure the mic was working, but I have to believe it would.
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I haven't had any issues with bluetooth on my JVC deck, but there is no problem sending back an S-OFF'd device, I've sent back several with no issues. Some devices are factory S-OFF, plus they never check returns.
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Weird, I have a JVC KW-NT1 that worked AWESOME with my TouchPro2 but this MT4GS has a bunch of static issues which pisses off my callers...does anyone know of a fix or a BT radio software update perhaps? It sucks that the phone is LIGHTYEARS ahead of my ancient TP2 but the BT might make me return it
btw
I'm working on a full unroot script with s on on the Dev page.... Expect it released next week
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I'm working on a full unroot script with s on on the Dev page.... Expect it released next week
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That would be handy indeed.
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