Rom vs Radio? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

hey guys....a nice little noob here.
So ive recently began reading up on upgrading my wizard to a nice wm6 rom. im interested in a stable touch rom, ive narrowed it down to a couple (mostly TNT, OCTAIVOI and NBD). ive read a couple of posts mentioning a specific rom using a specific radio, to insure stablitity. I want the bling in my phone but with most stability i can get. So overall this confused me a little bit. i ran a search and couldnt find anything.
the question is: im assuming when you flash a rom, theres a radio included in it. but when people use a specific radio, how is that done. Do they flash the radio after the rom or vice versa?
heres an example. i looked at the TNT.1933, it is mentioned that 2.19.11 UK is the most stable. is that radio included in the rom or is it a recommendation? if its not included how do you flash it?
Thanks for all the help !!

hello
Kujo said:
hey guys....a nice little noob here.
So ive recently began reading up on upgrading my wizard to a nice wm6 rom. im interested in a stable touch rom, ive narrowed it down to a couple (mostly TNT, OCTAIVOI and NBD). ive read a couple of posts mentioning a specific rom using a specific radio, to insure stablitity. I want the bling in my phone but with most stability i can get. So overall this confused me a little bit. i ran a search and couldnt find anything.
the question is: im assuming when you flash a rom, theres a radio included in it. but when people use a specific radio, how is that done. Do they flash the radio after the rom or vice versa?
heres an example. i looked at the TNT.1933, it is mentioned that 2.19.11 UK is the most stable. is that radio included in the rom or is it a recommendation? if its not included how do you flash it?
Thanks for all the help !!
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Hello welcome to the forums. Not all roms have a radio included. if you see in a rom thread that is "G4 safe" that means that it is only the OS. You can flash the radio whenever you want. i would suggest using the 2.19 radio. or the newest one 2.71 i think it is. i am currently running it with no problems.
reffering to what rom to put, i say try all of them until you stop at one that you like.
BUT FIRST, MAKE SURE YOUR DEVICE IS CID UNLOCKED! otherwise, you won't be able to flash anything onto it.
Hope that helped.

Thank you so much for the advice TH. Very kind of you.
I was looking for an answer to that on the forum, but all i found was the actual radios to download. I dont really mind experimenting with my phone, and i plan on doing exactly what u recommended by trying them all out. I also have a prophet which i feel like updating because i dont have a keyboard on it, so it makes more sense to try a touch rom on it.
I unlocked my wizard, its a G3 it was very easy, so no issues there.
so I would flash a rom i like, and then flash the radio? if i flash another rom, do i lose the radio or does it stay on the phone?
thanks again
th_undead said:
Hello welcome to the forums. Not all roms have a radio included. if you see in a rom thread that is "G4 safe" that means that it is only the OS. You can flash the radio whenever you want. i would suggest using the 2.19 radio. or the newest one 2.71 i think it is. i am currently running it with no problems.
reffering to what rom to put, i say try all of them until you stop at one that you like.
BUT FIRST, MAKE SURE YOUR DEVICE IS CID UNLOCKED! otherwise, you won't be able to flash anything onto it.
Hope that helped.
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or you can try radio 2.40.11 (this is the radio from the official rom OS 5.2.318 build 15342 of MS):
Code:
ftp://[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/faria-roms/radio2.40.11.zip

thanks ! will do

Kujo said:
so I would flash a rom i like, and then flash the radio? if i flash another rom, do i lose the radio or does it stay on the phone?
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Well that's sorta a tough question. Technically no. I think you mean if you flash for example TNT's ROM then you flash NBD's ROM. Then no, your radio would remain unchanged.
BUT... You should flash back to a stock ROM in between, and that WILL wipe your radio. What I do is flash to stock 8125 Cingular ROM from HTC's website. Then I flash the 3.08 IPL/SPL (only do this for G3 phones!!). Then I flash the OS ROM such as TNT or something. The last step is flashing a radio. I too have been using 2.71 lately. Seems to work well. My issues are more OS related lately as I have been learning to cook and always have one issue or another on my phone

cool. i'll look for 2.71, i have 2.19 right now.
i see ure using fido. Glad to see other canadians having fun with these.
im kind of annoyed though, just when i make up my mind on the rom i want, i cant find it. The NBD ftp seems to be down. my next step was the tnt i guess, any thoughts?
i basically want a nice rom, with touch and a decent amount of stability, of course with touch ive read that stability is usually an issue, but im sure there has to be one more stable then the other.
hayduke said:
Well that's sorta a tough question. Technically no. I think you mean if you flash for example TNT's ROM then you flash NBD's ROM. Then no, your radio would remain unchanged.
BUT... You should flash back to a stock ROM in between, and that WILL wipe your radio. What I do is flash to stock 8125 Cingular ROM from HTC's website. Then I flash the 3.08 IPL/SPL (only do this for G3 phones!!). Then I flash the OS ROM such as TNT or something. The last step is flashing a radio. I too have been using 2.71 lately. Seems to work well. My issues are more OS related lately as I have been learning to cook and always have one issue or another on my phone
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Have you been trying any of the different radios? I'm in the same boat as you - Fido user (Toronto), wondering which radio version would work best. If there are any other Fido Wizard users out here, would love to hear some feed-back!
When trying different radios, how do you evaluate which is the best? What are the key things to look for?

3.08
where can i find ipl/spl 3.08?

shikotee said:
Have you been trying any of the different radios? I'm in the same boat as you - Fido user (Toronto), wondering which radio version would work best. If there are any other Fido Wizard users out here, would love to hear some feed-back!
When trying different radios, how do you evaluate which is the best? What are the key things to look for?
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im running the tmobile 2.26 radio, i never flashed a different one after flashing nbd 8.3. I just flashed ipl/spl 3.08. So far everything is very smooth. no errors, missed called, sms errors for 3 straight days. and battery is very good as well.
Only issue i have with nbd is the fact that now everytime i send out an sms i get an sms in return saying the message was sent. im actually browsing the pages right now looking for a fix to that.
anyone have a solution?

helloooooooo?
where do i find IPL/SPL 3.08????????????
Kujo said:
im running the tmobile 2.26 radio, i never flashed a different one after flashing nbd 8.3. I just flashed ipl/spl 3.08. So far everything is very smooth. no errors, missed called, sms errors for 3 straight days. and battery is very good as well.
Only issue i have with nbd is the fact that now everytime i send out an sms i get an sms in return saying the message was sent. im actually browsing the pages right now looking for a fix to that.
anyone have a solution?
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So....
markdam said:
where do i find IPL/SPL 3.08????????????
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Markdam - Was this thread called "Secret Location of IPL/SPL 3.08"?
Two posts within 24 hours - talk about wanting instant gratification!
Yesterday evening, I flashed my Radio to 2.69.11
Reception seems possibly worse, but hard to gauge if this is due to the new radio, or the inconsistent signal strength that I seem to get in my bedroom. I'm also in the process of trying out various new apps, and it seems that something that I installed today is slurping my battery faster than before....

markdam said:
where do i find IPL/SPL 3.08????????????
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here you go
http://www.box.net/shared/svnrfrmo3b
thanks to NotATreoFan for sharing.

thanks
Thank you very much!!!!!!! and yes im a bit impatient... i mean we are flashing roms here.......

markdam said:
Thank you very much!!!!!!! and yes im a bit impatient... i mean we are flashing roms here.......
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I believe you have my problem too .... Get here

Related

orange tytn11

hi can some kind person help i have two tytn11. my son's has duttys rom and i have alex rom both are great. my son now wants his putting back to orange uk. i downloaded the rom from xda and instaled it the problem is it has no sound and the camra isnt working. we have both got hardspl 3.29.
any advice would be greatfull.
u need a compatible radio
thanks
could you sugest one that would do the trick please
pcsandchips said:
could you sugest one that would do the trick please
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What ROM version do you have? i.e. 5.2.1xxxxx
i had the same problem when i wanted to return mine all the radios i tryed sim locked my phone so i ended up leaving it with no sound but orange never got back to me. The replacement they sent me is rom version 1.81.61.2 and the radio is 1.27.14.32
hi
radio 1.27.14.09
many thanks m8
leebatch said:
i had the same problem when i wanted to return mine all the radios i tryed sim locked my phone so i ended up leaving it with no sound but orange never got back to me. The replacement they sent me is rom version 1.81.61.2 and the radio is 1.27.14.32
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thanks alot
the rom on my orange phone is 1.27.14.32 but the problem i had with my last phone was all radios simlocked my phone
thanks to every one
im not sure where i would find a radio version for this the same as orange
i have looked on here and they have a good few but not the one i need.
i also spoke to orange who said that the rom from them is not avalable to download. so i emailed htc and they said contact orange uk.
my orange phone is using rom 1.81.61.2 and radio 1.27.14.32
hi
i think the orange rom download from xda is that rom but im not sure if the radio version is compatable with the phone as when i instaled it i have no sound and camra dont work. i flashed it twice.
thanks every one for the replies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
thats brilliant
thanks m8 ill have a good read through that.
pcsandchips said:
i think the orange rom download from xda is that rom but im not sure if the radio version is compatable with the phone as when i instaled it i have no sound and camra dont work. i flashed it twice.
thanks every one for the replies
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The Orange UK ROM you downloaded is likely the one I put together from a dump of my device when I first had it (also from Orange UK). It is missing a radio as at that time the radio version that shipped on my device (1.27.12.29) had never been released and was not available from a dump.
However, that seems to have changed now and you can download the 1.27.12.29 radio ROM from the wiki;
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
This, combined with my ROM rebuild, will give you an Orange UK TyTN II as it was shipped. Orange UK are shipping later radio versions these days, however using my ROM and the radio linked above will give you an original shipping setup equal to how my phone arrived with me on day one.
EDIT: the link for that radio appears dead (boo!), so 1.27.12.32 is the closest match currently - that should give you a working device with sound etc. I assume you have sim unlocked this phone? If not, you will need to do this before flashing this radio.
many thanks
i will give it a go and let you know how it went. i have had the phone unlocked i paid orange for the code. many many thanks
THATS ME
Thanks Every One Thats Me Got A Working Orange Uk Rom.
No Issues At All With The Phone Thanks.
pcsandchips said:
Thanks Every One Thats Me Got A Working Orange Uk Rom.
No Issues At All With The Phone Thanks.
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Hi, Ive got an Orange TyTn 2 and I find the keyboard often misses out button presses, so I find that a space or a letter hasn't appeared when I get to the end of the sentence. Does this happen with your TyTn 2? Cheers
leoni1980 said:
Hi, Ive got an Orange TyTn 2 and I find the keyboard often misses out button presses, so I find that a space or a letter hasn't appeared when I get to the end of the sentence. Does this happen with your TyTn 2? Cheers
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ohy es itd oes, itsr eallyf ucking annoying!
the only answer seems to be type slower
garrilla said:
ohy es itd oes, itsr eallyf ucking annoying!
the only answer seems to be type slower
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Try disabling xt9.
EDIT: this post isn't really ROM development related. It's general at best. And it seems to be getting off topic.
The OP was the good old, I have no sound on my Kaiser, which is an older problem than me and has been asked a million times before.
ta
Dave
HI
I Am The Same Thats Why I Opted For A Dutty Or Alex Rom Orange Is A Pain. My Son How Ever Wanted His Back To Orange. He Said He Liked Duttys Rom But When He Hard Reset He Had To Keep Instaling The Cab Fixes Which Anoyed Him Lol .

Installing a new rom on the apache

Hello. I am pretty much a hermes guy, but my friend just got an apache. I know he's going to ask me if I can flash the latest WM 6.1 rom that i'm using onto the apache.
What is the flashing procedure, and are there any good roms you know of? Do I have to install a new bootloader onto the phone? Can any of the hermes stuff (roms, radio, bootloader) work on the apache?
Thanks in advance. I'm off to work now.
carcomp said:
Hello. I am pretty much a hermes guy, but my friend just got an apache. I know he's going to ask me if I can flash the latest WM 6.1 rom that i'm using onto the apache.
What is the flashing procedure, and are there any good roms you know of? Do I have to install a new bootloader onto the phone? Can any of the hermes stuff (roms, radio, bootloader) work on the apache?
Thanks in advance. I'm off to work now.
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Head over to ppcgeeks.com... go to the Apache>Upgrades forum.
Lots of ROM stuff over there and plenty of how-to info. There aren't many custom ROMs for 6.1, but the kitchen is very easy to use. I'm using the LennySH 19213 build and it's pretty stable.
Depends on the bootloader version the phone currently has. If it has 2.04/2.05, I believe you'll need to downgrade the BL. Info there on that as well.
I would say you definitely can't use any of those Hermes-specific things on an Apache. Hardware is too different.

Official rom update for rogers from HTC

ok seems theres an official update from HTC for our rogers phones anyone try it yet http://www.htc.com/ca/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=270&act=sd&cat=2
Ooooh, eeenteresting....
Code:
Why is updating the software on your device recommended?
The ROM software update posted below provides several key enhancements for your HTC Dream:
-Improves the overall device functionality and stability
-Enables correct SMS timestamp [B]<<<<<<<<<<!!!!![/B]
-Enables Chinese character display for POP3 HTML Emails
-Corrects E-mail client exchange Issues
yes can it be timestamp fix heaven? lol.. just wondering if this is going to work for rooted or non 32a magic.. or both
The update pages says "HTC Magic (Rogers)" but when I stick in my S/N it says: Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device. Bummer since my phone and box say HTC Rogers on them.
pcm2a said:
The update pages says "HTC Magic (Rogers)" but when I stick in my S/N it says: Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device. Bummer since my phone and box say HTC Rogers on them.
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ditto :/
i just got the S/N from the box as I didnt want to remove the battery.
yeah i noticed it also.. comes up when you select Rogers Magic.. but if you noticed in the notes.. some of which also posted above.. it says enhance dream isssues... will try my s/n and let you know
you can get the files from the rogers support page.. i used this link to get there http://www.androidincanada.ca/news/update-rogers-htc-dreammagic-android-timestamp-problem/
I have the direct link here:
http://downloads.rogers.com/wireless/products/htc/magic/RUU_Sapphire_Rogers_WWE_2.17.631.2_release_signed_NoDriver.exe
Be careful as this update will more than likely install a Perfect SPL on your device. You will need to re-root your device after installing this. Could be a painful process.
I'm going to wait for somebody who knows what they're doing to remove the important bits from this update.
Cheers!
my thoughts exactly.. the way they have been putting the perfect spl on devices that didnt have it.... I tried it ( im running Jacheroski 2.7.4r2) and it didnt even recognize my phone. I was reading on the HTC site that you need HTC sync software first... thought that was for hero.. anyways.. have to run out for a bit will check back later... on a side note.. if this actually unroots your phone and puts the rogers apps back on .. couldnt someone tweak this up date and make it a restore rom?
I can confirm that it installs a 'Perfected SPL'.
Version 1.33.0010 to be exact.
Proceed with caution! I read through some posts on how to root these devices with 1.33.0010 and I really wouldn't want to have to do that.
I haven't installed the ROM image, and I won't.
After running the RUU (before you even click Next or accept the terms), you can find rom.zip in "%TEMP%\{F313B180-FF83-48A8-B925-E14312A5AFCB}\{50F2F878-636A-496F-A7CB-544C067E0C4B}"
I'm sorry if this isn't being asked in the correct place but as this thread is already discussing the new ROM update I was hoping that someone here could please tell me whether or not this ROM update would SIM relock a SIM unlocked Rogers Magic phone?
I am asking because I should be recieving my new unlocked Rogers Magic (that I am going to be using on AT&T) any day now and while I wouldn't mind updating it with the new ROM I really don't want to go through the expense and hassle of having to SIM unlock it when part of the reason I bought the one I did on ebay is because it is already SIM unlocked. Thanks in advance for any information on this.
coscom said:
I'm sorry if this isn't being asked in the correct place but as this thread is already discussing the new ROM update I was hoping that someone here could please tell me whether or not this ROM update would SIM relock a SIM unlocked Rogers Magic phone?
I am asking because I should be recieving my new unlocked Rogers Magic (that I am going to be using on AT&T) any day now and while I wouldn't mind updating it with the new ROM I really don't want to go through the expense and hassle of having to SIM unlock it when part of the reason I bought the one I did on ebay is because it is already SIM unlocked. Thanks in advance for any information on this.
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I really doubt it will. I don't know exactly how SIM unlocking works, but this update shouldn't touch those settings.
Why run the Rogers update with all of it's restrictions and crappy software? Download and install any one of the dozens of better ROMs available in this forum.
First let me admit that I am a total NOOB with Android and even the idea of flashing custom ROMs on cellphones (the phone I am upgrading from is an 8525 and had an 8125 before that and the only time I remember flashing either was updating the official ROM to 6.0 off of HTC's site). I guess this makes me a little behind the times but my idea of customizing was installing programs like Pockets Plus and then Mobile Shell 3 because I'm not a programmer and was a little intimidated about cooking the ROMS.
That said I was thinking of running the stock ROM atleast for a little while to get an idea of just what I like and don't like about it and then being more knowledgeable when I research what ROM I should upgrade to? Is there a list of the ROMs and what their customizations are for the Rogers version? Do you have any advise on what ROM's I should look at and what the differences are?
I'm afraid that I will be somewhat overwhelmed with the number of choices to be made. Besides, I use my phone on my job so I can't risk it having issues or having to reinstall everything on a regular basis so continually flashing it with new ROM's as they come out may not be a logical solution for me. I think I'd rather end up with something stable and able to use all the programs, etc that I need for work and play. Anyways, any advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Your best bet would be to start off by running the ROM that it comes with. If you've got problems with timestamps in the ROM, use a program called ChompSMS.
Read this forum, look for information on the 32A HTC Magic. That's the version you are getting. Learn as much as you can without changing your phone at all. Once you've got enough information start by 'rooting' your phone, then play around with some custom ROMs.
Lots to learn around here. Make sure you use the search function.
The following link was made by skittleguy to try to combine all compatible roms for Rogers. There have been quite a few changes to most of these ROMS but you can go to each original thread and read up on different ROMs and their advantages and disadvantages. I believe most of the original threads are being updated from time to time, but you can always just do a search for the name of the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534464&highlight=repository
Personally if you want one that is stable and has all of its features working, I would go with Cyanogen's ROM v4.0.2 with Amon_RA'sv1.0.1 kernal. It is based of off MyTouch 3G. The link is below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544854
Having said that, there is one feature that I miss on this ROM, which is the smart dialpad.
T-mobile
Tsanger said:
The following link was made by skittleguy to try to combine all compatible roms for Rogers. There have been quite a few changes to most of these ROMS but you can go to each original thread and read up on different ROMs and their advantages and disadvantages. I believe most of the original threads are being updated from time to time, but you can always just do a search for the name of the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534464&highlight=repository
Personally if you want one that is stable and has all of its features working, I would go with Cyanogen's ROM v4.0.2 with Amon_RA'sv1.0.1 kernal. It is based of off MyTouch 3G. The link is below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544854
Having said that, there is one feature that I miss on this ROM, which is the smart dialpad.
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Is this official rom update compatible with tmobile sapphire?
Thanks
Disregard found the answer on the HTC website.
Not compatible for Tmobile.
Anyone out there have a suggestion on what to do to a out of the box Sapphire from T-mobile?
Thanks
david636 said:
Is this official rom update compatible with tmobile sapphire?
Thanks
Disregard found the answer on the HTC website.
Not compatible for Tmobile.
Anyone out there have a suggestion on what to do to a out of the box Sapphire from T-mobile?
Thanks
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don't tmobile use 32B? i am fairly certain this is for 32A only.
How about nordic Magics :O
They are 32a... When will we see it >_<

Do I need to reflash HardSPL if I want to flash a new ROM?

Hi guys,
I have a quick question.
Do I need to reflash HardSPL if I want to flash a new ROM? I already flashed my Touch Pro with HardSPL and then flashed it with ProVEN 2.4
However I want to flash my phone with a more updated rom. Since I don't want to brick my phone, I would like confirmation if reflashing of HardSPL is required before I upgrade from ProVEN 2.4 to a newer rom?
No, that's why it's call hard spl.
No need to do it...your good to go
Is there any rom that is top rated right now? I am wondering which one is the best one best on feedback.
pcall2007 said:
Is there any rom that is top rated right now? I am wondering which one is the best one best on feedback.
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all roms are good...just different configurations...it's your job to find the one that is best for you based on your needs...read carefully and try a couple...just make sure it's for your phone ..gsm or cdma
FLORINOX said:
all roms are good...just different configurations...it's your job to find the one that is best for you based on your needs...read carefully and try a couple...just make sure it's for your phone ..gsm or cdma
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Good post dude...
FLORINOX said:
all roms are good...just different configurations...it's your job to find the one that is best for you based on your needs...read carefully and try a couple...just make sure it's for your phone ..gsm or cdma
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So why don't we start with your rom. What rom do you use?
Window 6.5 upgrade
I have HTC Fuze (P4600) AT&T unlocked phone. I want to upgrade the window from 6.1 to 6.5, can u tell me procedure and from where I can get the latest ROM. post upgrade do i have unlock the phone again or it will not locked again after upgrade

[Q] first htc phone need some advise with radio

ok guys im just got this device and i'm coming from the G2X and im confuse with every rom thread talked about radios. (yes i searched)
idk if you guys know but we dont use radios on the g2x!
and i dont really wanna brick my phone. ok i have the RevolutionHD 3.6.2 beats
and i have the radio that they talked about
right now im flashing roms to see witch one i really like but do i have to flash radios everytime i flash a rom?
and what the stock one?
thank you in advance
It's usually a good idea to not change Radio Firmware unless you have problems.
That said I don't understand the suggestion by for example ARHD to update to a specific radio version, but you'll definitely not need to change Radio Firmware for every new ROM. Once you have the latest and greatest you'll not need to change it anymore. (At least if you don't have problems)
great thanks for the quick reply. do you know witch one is the lates radio?

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