How much space required to flash a WM6 ROM? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development

I have an XDA Mini S with no additional space (didn't buy a mini-sd card for it). In System->Memory->Storage it says I have 47.46 MB total. Is that OK for flashing WM6 on it. Btw, it should have 64MB, I'm not sure why it says 47.46 MB (probably because it doesn't add the space occupied by the ROM?).
Thanky you

You don't need additional space, as the ROM is flashed to your Flash ROM directly.
The missing space is due to Extension ROM (10MB), some files and database copied during first cold start, and the applications installed from Extension ROM on first cold start.

and you´ll loose everything stored on your wizard during flashing process! so backup your contacts ...

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Large program memory?

Is there a hack for 'large program memory, rather than 'big storage'? Or is it the same thing?
Thanks for any advice, M
Program memory and storage memory is shared- BigStorage releases the previously unusable storage, therefore increasing program and storage memory.
Just use the slider to dedicate more memory to programs...although this auto adjusts itself as and when required.
Thanks that makes BIG storage worth trying. For now I got a only around 35 MB free, with all apps in storage folder and sd-card. Trying to move even more executables from ram to storage or sd. Works fine uptill now.
Sincerely, M
Try memmaid as well to move dlls and executables from \windows\ to storage.
V
Will give a try, but apps like album and camera (both approximately 500K) saved me a lot of ram. I noticed that the default album and camera are in rom, so don't take any ram, though visibke in windiws folder.
Gr. M
BIG-storage try didn't work out. After the flash back of the changed (MKS method) rom, the device stays black and will only go into bootloader. This last saved my device I guess. I tried a restore with the original 1.13 shipped rom and got the device back. Unfortunately I lost my storage folder in this and ext-rom still exists. Is there a way to get the storage folder back? Even with ext-rom is acceptable.
Thnx byba very sad M.
Boot loader magician
OLTP, I had the same problem (only boot loader working and after reinstalling 113 storage gone ), I simply tried reinstalling again and got storage back. I also did a soft reset immediately after first boot after reinstalling 113, so before the programs in extended rom would install. This freed about 25MB working memory although extended rom is still -of course- not editable. I only installed the camera and ended up with a lean magician, and no GPRS bug.
Thnx Mozart,
Will give it another try. I think you mean you installed twice the 1.13 shipped rom? Cause I tried the SD flas twice with no result, a very dead and empty magician. I did do the soft-reset before the ext-rom would autoexec and that didn't help.
So olpnly question now is, did you do the SD flash twice or the upgrade with shipped 1.13 after the failed SD flash.
Thnx in advance, M
Ps. glad I am not the only one with this problem.
I tried the SD-method 3 times, then gave up, and then reinstalled T-Mobiles latest (1.13) rom. I had to use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to do this, by the way...., because the SD-flash had ruined the ID of my magician. It is still ruined, but at least my magician is alive and well.
Too bad, I tried the shipped rom for the third time now and still no storage. For the rest my magician is OK. Did not have to use the noid upgrade patch or anything like it. Though the shipped rom claims the device is empty. When I find a decent extracted rom I will try again.
Sincerely, M

Format ROM memory

Hi all,
I'm french, so excuse my bad englsih.
I had a Pocket PC on Windows Mobile 2003 First Edition and i backup my system to my ROM memory. After a new ROM installation (Windows 2003 Second Edition), i can't see this backup file in ROM, and now i have only 1Mo in ROM Memory.
How can i erase the old backup file ? Total Commander & Co can't see the file also...
Thanks a lot for you help !
Regards,
Bertrand
Please specify exactly what device do you have.
(I am not familiar with devices that got upgraded from 2003 to 2003SE)
The reason you cant see your backup is because its gone. When you reflash your device (upgrade the ROM) the File Store (where you save stuff you don't want deleted during hard reset) is also formatted. The reason you only have 1 MB storage left could be one of two things:
A) The new ROM takes more space.
B) Something went wrong during the upgrade and the ROM was not properly partitioned.
NOTE:
There is no way to recover this data. It is recommended that you backup important stuff to SD card or your PC (ActiveSync has a backup function).
I have a PDA, a "Yakumo Alpha GPS" (equal to "Acer N35").
Yesterday, I installed wrong ROM to try to free ROM Storage, and the install have been down. So, I reinstall Windows Moblie Seconde Edition, and now my ROM Storage is 0.2 MO. (
So, yes, I think that an installation was down one week ago, and that's why i had less ROM Storage.
PLease, tell me it's possible to recover my ROM Storage...
Hi beber49!
I am not sure of the details, but I can point you in the right direction and after some searching you should have the solution:
Find a device with the original ROM, there are instructions in the wiki on how to backup ROM to SD then restore. I think if you manage to reflash your device with the original ROM you might get your storage back.
But be careful: If the reflash is not done properly, you may loose all of the free storage or even kill the device.
Sorry, that's all I have. Hope someone gives you a better idea!
i tryed that but no way to see these file...

Roms, hard resets and windows mobile.

Hi, I'm looking for more info on how the memory is partitioned between storage and programs. I don't quite understand how a hard reset is equivalent to a reinstall, and how it works.
Is there a site or book with more information on this? Any help or pointer would be greatly appreciated!
a pocketpc have ram and rom
rom is read only memory
the os is located in rom
and storage and application memory is in ram
how much you want to have free for application ram
and how much you want to use as storage is up to you using the memory slider
a hardreset or too long without batt
clear the ram leaving the os which is in rom
as the only thing on the pocketpc
which is why it's the same thing as a reinstall
because all the stuff you put on it are gon
leaving what the maker of the device put in the rom
but with 2005 things have changed a bit
here some of the flash rom is used for storage
and all ram is used for application memory
(though buzz and the lads made it so some of the ram can be used for stroage on older HTC devices which otherwise only have 32MB)
here a hardreset dont mean a reinstall
if you want to clear the device to default you have to format
the storage from inside the bootloader
I think what he meant is the one shown in "Settings"->"Memory"->"Main"
Think of the "Storage" as the hardisk of your PC and "Program" as the RAM of your PC. For WM5, when you soft reset your unit, the "Program" memory will be cleared off and program will be loaded again into this "Program" memory.
As for the "Storage", it is the `hardisk` where you have your OS installed. The OS is kept in the ROM (which I don't think is part of the "Storage"), and it is installed into your "Storage" everytime you perform a hard reset. (e.g. the "Storage" will be wipe clearn upon a hard reset). Anything that you do, e.g. edit file, add contact, etc. will be recorded/saved into this "Storage".
Thanks for the replies. So what I see when I browse the device, including the 'windows' folder, that's a copy of the operating system, and the original master copy is in the ROM?
So theoretically, I could go and delete the whole windows folder, perform a hard reset, and everything would be fine?
Has anyone already tried to see what could be reasonnably removed from the windows folder in order save 'storage' space?
Cheers!
no whats in the windows dir is the os which is stored in the rom
you cant remove things in the rom
no whats in the windows dir is the os which is stored in the rom
you cant remove things in the rom
I'll reply to my own question in order to close this thread and make it useful to others:
(from pocketpcdubai)
The Universal comes with 128MB ROM and 64MB RAM as compared to its predecessors who had the exact opposite.
The 128MB ROM is divided into 2 parts:
1) OS + Extended ROM (around 84MB)
2) Storage (remaining 43.5MB as shown above
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And this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx

storage problem. help pls

i upgraded my himalaya with wm5 helmis rom. my problem is its storage capacity. it only has 14 mb of storage. how am i going to extend its storage. is there any procedure for doing this? thanks.
http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=132&func=fileinfo&id=125
or use another rom with more storage
i have the exact problem...16MB storage...always have 0.6MB free...can't install software...
tried to reduce the RAMDISK to 32 MB, program is increased, storage the same...
storage cant be inc it's flashrom and cant use the normal ram
but one can just install programs on RAMDISK it's faster then normal storage anyway it being ram (well ½ of it) and storage is flash
Use HIMA_DOC_TOOL v1.0 to increase the storage from 15 MB to 30 MB. Search the forum.
Thanks c_shekhar for your response. I searched around the forum, seems this extrom unlock has been discussed for years.
for my understand, need to run the ExtROM Tools to unhide/unlock extrom, then run the Hima_DOC_Tool_1.0 to merge storage and extrom. Now here is the question, I unhide the extrom successfully, can see it for 15.97MB, however the unlock does not work, it has the "blue square" icon and fails "Either it is not signed with a trustred certificate, or one of its components cannot be found".
Not sure this is a corrupted package or something missing from my ROM, the .rar opens fine, but the winrar reports .cab file is corrupted when trying to open it.
My ROM is 3.50c.40CS version...appreciate for your time to help!
Excellent, found the solution from buzz forum...i installed the unlocker to SD card that is why it faied...after re-installing to DEVICE, it works!!! got 30.5MB storage, very happy. Thanks guys.

[Q] Less ROM after each flash

In TiBu, after each time I flash a new ROM, it shows I have less ROM left. What partition is my ROM in? Can I find it in root explorer? Can I erase stuff to free up ROM? I don't want to run out if I try more ROMS. It seems like extra stuff is carrying over with each flash. I erased all the cache and dalvik and whatnot (unless i'm missing something)
Sorry for the bunch of questions together but I can't find any real good answers with google.
No. You have an internal/ external sd card. A rom is the firmware you flash. Each time you flash a new one it replaces the old one. You may be filling your internal card. By downloading new roms. And all you have to do is erase stuff on your sd cards internal, and external sd to free up space. Anything you download takes up space.
i tried to post a picture, but im too new to post outside links it says. anyway, this is what it says:
system ROM 617mb (101mb free)
internal 2.11gb (1.87gb free)
sd card 12.0gb (7.27gb free)
ext.sd card 4.11 gb (2.88gb free)
jeff210 said:
i tried to post a picture, but im too new to post outside links it says. anyway, this is what it says:
system ROM 617mb (101mb free)
internal 2.11gb (1.87gb free)
sd card 12.0gb (7.27gb free)
ext.sd card 4.11 gb (2.88gb free)
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Click to collapse
so whats the problem?
every ROM is going to be different in size, and you dont use the system ROM (READ ONLY MEMORY) to install or do anything. so why do you think you need more space on that partition? as long as the rom that you are flashing fits on it (every ROM install will format that /system partition anyway), it will work....
Sounds right to me for rom allotment
I was just making sure that it wouldn't keep building up with each ROM I flash and run out of room. Thanks all.

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