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I have just installed a nice TNT 5.0 on my Qtek (Cingular 8125 like but called Qtek 9100 on Colombia).
I´m having an extrange issue regarding the GPRS-Edge internet connection of Windows Live Messenger, and I´m not sure if this could be because our cellphone provider, because of the newer 2.69.11 Radio I´m using or because of any other reason.
Actually the GPRS-Edge connection (It says Edge so it must be edge) it´s working like a charm on Internet Explorer or Opera. But when I try to conect to a Windows or Microsoft related website via Internet Explorer or Opera, the connection can´t be established (say http://mobile.live.com). This happens also when trying to connect to Windows Live Messenger using GPRS or Edge. It does not connect at all.
It´s almost like my cellphone provider has some exceptions on their gprs connection that makes connecting to a Windows or Microsoft server almost impossible.
Nevertheless, there is a walkthrough that curiously worked out and got me really pissed off as it happened a few times before I definetly could find out what was I doing that got everything working...
If I connect to the internet via Wi-Fi (By the way i´m not sure i must press the wi fi button twice on the command manager in order to get it up and running), I can do both things: log into Windows Live Messenger and use the full featured messenger client (send files, pictures, see avatars, send voice, etc) and log into any microsoft website (say http://mobile.live.com).
Til here, everything goes to the cellphone provider.
Here comes the weird thing:
If I turn off the Wireless network after login into messenger, the software automatically looks up for the lost connection and re-connects to the web using GPRS (EDGE) and manages to login successfull, so I can see messenger contacts and chat with them using gprs (edge). But I loose all the internet brownser ability to browse microsoft domains (mobile.live.com
I´m not sure if this has to do with the CHAP or the PAP GPRS autentication. I have tried both without waiting any time before attempts, with no luck.
Also, I´m not sure if this could be related to the EDGE network, as I previously owned a symbian sonyEricsson P910a that did not supported Edge but could connect with no trouble to Messenger through IMPlus.
I´ve also tryed the IMPlus version on the pocket pc with the same bad result as using directly Windows Live Messenger.
Any ideas?
Could it be possible to disable the EDGE network and use exclusively GPRS via Regedit?
Trying everything now. Even downgraded and upgraded again...
I can surf the web now using IE, even on the http://mobile.live.com site, but when trying to use Windows Live, i get a connection error and then a message saying
"Windows Live was unable to establish anInternet connection. Please check your Internet settings and make sure that you have access to data services under your billing plan. If you need help, please contact your mobile service provider.".
The incredible thing is that i´m actually using messenger beta directly on pocket internet explorer and it works, not quite nice, but it does, using wi-fi.
So why Windows Live can´t use this connection to log in?
Now, using GPRS connection, I try to log into http://mobile.live.com and it took too much saying opening... but it made it. But I was not soo lucky when i pushed forward to try to access the mail link on that site (that worked on wi-fi) as it got stuck at opening forever and finally it displayed an error. Same on any link under that page. It seems that it takes too long and crashes. But still I can go to any other site (Tryed www.sun.com right away and it downloaded quite fast a 200kb front page, so i´m not sure that this could be a Radio Issue.)
My Info:
ROM: 6.0.0.0 WWE
DATE 2/02/07
RADIO 2.69.11
PROTOCOL 4.1.13.30
ExtROM: Empty.
I´m trying windows-live-conection-fix from Faria right now...
Still when i try to login to messenger using windows live it says immediatelly There´s a connectivity problem.
I´m
i can't determine what is the exact error do you have, but i want to say it is working with me either with WiFi or GPRS, check out your settings carefully and try to set the settings as usual (don't use network wizard) and test.
I also can have intermittant connection problems using Messenger. It occurs on my Wizard (GPRS and Wifi) and on various PCs too. Before blaming the Wizard, consider it might be a problem with Microsoft and their servers. Usually on either PC or Wizard it will connect after a couple of tries for me. It could be that your provider has blocked the relevent ports or servers on your GPRS but I'm sure we would have heard from other users of your carrier if that is the case.
Ok. I´m from Colombia, and my carrier is called Comcel. There´s no Network wizard available for it at the moment.
Before unlocking my sim and messing up with the first wizard love upgrade (unfortunatelly i can´t find the original rom and probably i will need to extract it from my fathers phone if i can get a hand on it, but still will need to read all about it first...) I was able to connect to MSN without any issues at all. Even on my old symbian phone I used IM+ without any issues. Now that I upgraded it´s getting quite difficult.
Actually I can connect now without any trouble after a soft reset, using Wi-Fi, and it´s really nice. But I can´t get it to connect through GPRS (It´s definetly not a carrier issue as my brother has a WM5 wizard too that I won´t touch before I have this figured out first, and he can connect without any issues, quite fast, using an old 2.17 radio version on his G4).
The strange thing is that I can fly through the web (i´m now installing gmail-g.jar directly on my phone through gprs).
The strange thing is that when I go to www.microsoft.com or mobile.live.com i get stuck on Opening... and the GPRS connection goes too slow. Probably checking something...
It´s like under gprs there something going.
I´m aware that all the symptoms are saying something about carrier permits... but still with my sim card on my brother´s phone (it´s not my line) it works without any issues.
Now, I have started up the Wireless LAN again and it logged in right away on windows live messenger (it´s really nice...).
Then I went offline again, get the wireless off on the cellphone, get the messenger up and running on my vista computer, and then try to login into the phone using again gprs....
Miracle!!! I get logged out from vista!!!! but it doesn´t get all the way there on the mobile phone, as it get´s stuck on signing in... (Not enought)...
Now logged of from vista, I try to login again on the cellphone, no luck...
And loose the hability to navigate into mobile.live.com
Ok.
I do it one more time from scratch.
I soft reset my device...
then I go to internet explorer mobile and type http://mobile.live.com/
It starts the GPRS (Edge) connection right away... and goes to Opening... on the status bar... No luck.
But still I can download mail from the java applet of Gmail, and go to any other website, and even load google maps on the device under gprs...
So it´s a Windows Live issue that seems to have something against my gprs connection.
I was wondering if it has anything to do with CHAP or PAP autentication, but on my carrier they dont really know as they are charging me with their calls, as they don´t care, and I have tryed both but there seems to be no difference.
Anyway on my brother´s wizard the settings are exactly the same as mine on the gprs conection...
I will try to make my cellphone gprs connection work like a modem for my pc and then I will try to navigate the web and login into messenger from my pc using my cellphone gprs connection to see if i can do it, and then I will get back at you.
our network had this issue before, but they solved this later (thats b4 1-2 years)
Ok. I´m gonna try, one by one, the different radio versions that are on the radio-only forums.
Still if you know where can I get my hands on radios 2.17 and 2.49 (2.49.11) is the one that came originally with the phone and it´s the one that is on my father´s untouched wizard...
I´ll get back on you if i found anything...
By the way, does it has anything to do with the regional settings? Mine is Spanish Colombia even when i´m using your TNT 5.0 OS. Still I have run the keyboard spanish patch in order to get my keyboard layount right and i´m still only two signs off on the keyboard but it´s almost ok.
I know that this is not the place, but i´m off on the "D" key that it´s suppost to be a "+" but instead it´s showing the "Euro" symbol (don´t have that on my latin american pc), and on the C key it´s supposed to be a "Ç" instead there´s the "+" sign.
I had this issue the other day, luckily I work for the provider. The issue is with the gprs apn that you are using. If ur provider has multiple apns, then try another. If not u going to have to wait until they resolve their issues.
Dont worry, it isnt the phone and it isnt the ROM. I had the problem too when I just put tnt 5 on my device. Its a problem with the provider.
Thanks Mitchie55. So I will rest my case trying to flash, reflash, upgrade and downgrade radios, and try to trick out the registry for Windows Live security policies... Anyway, what´s exactly a GPRS APT and how can I check if my carrier has more than one GPRS APT? Are those ports? Can I check them under the GSM Test Mode screen (*#*#364#*#*)?
After all my messing around with Windows Live Messenger´s connection issues, i came along a Registry String that got my attention.
It´s not that I want to panic everybody, but on the TNT 5.0 Profesional with HTC Today release there´s a registry line that states:
HKLM\Services\Windows Live\Platform\Passport\PolicyExpiry
String 2007-09-25T19:16:57.9251948Z
I´m wondering what will happen on the 25th of September at 7:17:00 pm UTM...
Any ideas?
danielvelez said:
Thanks Mitchie55. So I will rest my case trying to flash, reflash, upgrade and downgrade radios, and try to trick out the registry for Windows Live security policies... Anyway, what´s exactly a GPRS APT and how can I check if my carrier has more than one GPRS APT? Are those ports? Can I check them under the GSM Test Mode screen (*#*#364#*#*)?
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Its APN - Access Point Name. Thats what is needed when u create a Cellular GPRS connection to connect to the internet.
im having the same issues, im with rogers wireless in canada
everything works except for the windows mobile live
i updated the software and i'm running ver. 10.6.0033.0600
on an x7500/athena updated to wm6 (originally shipped with wm5 from expansys)
i contacted my provider and they said they dont have another access point name for me to use other then the default one they provide
and they claimed it was a windows mobile live issue,
i tried this in my treo 750 as well and still nothing is happening
thats 2 devices now that dont work ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
i cant figure out what i'm doing wrong.
Can anyone help me please with where the P3600i fits into the radio updates?
I have just got this phone. In general, it is running fine but it goes back in the drawer today because of a major (to me) bug...
The device will automatically connect to GSM data without 'authorisation' from the user. There is no way to stop it!
My N95 nicely asks if I want (for example) a GPRS connection. The P3600i just does it (even though it might already have an active ActiveSync or WiFi connection). Pretty expensive!
Browsing the forums, I have tried so far:
* Turning off HSDPA
* Setting Settings/Connections/Advanced to My Work or some form of null connection
Both to no avail
I have an Asus 636 with WM5. Say, with Stock Manager, I select an update and I have ActiveSync running: then the 636 just grabs the data through ActiveSync. The 3600i ignores the available link and starts a new data connection to my GSM carrier.
I have read about updating the radio rom (I have 1.46.30.11) but it does not seem clear which update and which process suits the 3600i.
Thanks
Upgraded today to WM 6.1 by illi and rickwyatt using kar hoe's guide (great job btw very clear instructions ). I am wondering if anyone is experiencing issues with WiFi connectivity. I do not pay for a data plan and WiFi is very important to me. I tested today with my home access point and it seems that I never pass the "Connecting to Network" stage on the "WiFi Networks" page. It'll flash my AP's MAC address for a second or so, but no actual connectivity. I tried connecting via WAP-PSK security, WEP security and even no security.. all to no avail. WM 5 had this problem when AP's had low signal (it would flash the MAC/SSID and then move on to the next network), but never to the point where I could not connect. Also, I notice the WiFi icon shows as a tower with a halo and the three dots (/°\...) while it's trying to connect. As soon as it flashes the MAC/SSID the icon turns to a dead tower (/\). I was wondering if this is a known issue, and whether anyone has experienced and/or fixed this. Please advise... Thanks in advance
P.S. Excuse the crappy ASCII art in trying to get my point across. Pls let me know if you need more info.
I know that for my wep secure home network - I needed to add the phone to the network before it would be accepted. Just knowing the wep pass code was not enough
The phone would just loop trying to connect with no luck.
Not sure what software you are using on your network / wireless router - but this may be the issue.
Good luck
I normally use WPA-PSK encryption on the network. Its a linksys wrt-54g router. It runs in b/g compatibility mode. I even tried to connect w/o security period. It kept dropping after flashing the MAC/SSID.
well here's an update. i an still having issues with the wifi but i decided to spring for the data plan. it's only $20 us on top of the phone bill. i figured thats not a bad deal since internet is so important for me. i'm actually sorting this on my sda.
I do same as far as wifi (no data plan). I see you got one now btw, gl.
I use same rom and I got no problems with wifi, maybe you need radio update or something simple as that.
On my home network you need wep key and mac address added on my router in order to connect (just a thought); I use linksys and can post more details on this with pictures if needed.
Using wifi and Devicescape ain't that bad for me.
PS
I had to reply just so others who didn't try this rom know its not the rom issue about wifi - I LOVE THIS ROM
My phone- SDA Tornado
Provider - T-Mobile USA
Rom- WM 6.1 by illi and rickwyatt
bllohin said:
I do same as far as wifi (no data plan). I see you got one now btw, gl.
I use same rom and I got no problems with wifi, maybe you need radio update or something simple as that.
On my home network you need wep key and mac address added on my router in order to connect (just a thought); I use linksys and can post more details on this with pictures if needed.
Using wifi and Devicescape ain't that bad for me.
PS
I had to reply just so others who didn't try this rom know its not the rom issue about wifi - I LOVE THIS ROM
My phone- SDA Tornado
Provider - T-Mobile USA
Rom- WM 6.1 by illi and rickwyatt
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hmmm... devicescape, you say? yeah that's definitely worth checking out. i'll play around with it at some point. you are totally right though, the WM 6.1 rom is awesome and I encourage anyone who is still running Windows Mobile 5 to go ahead and upgrade. Karhoe's guide is a very concise way to make this happen. i was actually looking to get a new phone prior to upgrading. i was thinking about getting the HTC Kaiser (TyTn II) although I was put off by the issue where it was released lacking hardware acceleration support for its ATI Imageon graphics processor. I haven't had a chance to play with the wifi on other access points yet, so perhaps this issue was specific to my home router.
P.S. Thanks for your reply!
bllohin said:
I do same as far as wifi (no data plan). I see you got one now btw, gl.
I use same rom and I got no problems with wifi, maybe you need radio update or something simple as that.
On my home network you need wep key and mac address added on my router in order to connect (just a thought); I use linksys and can post more details on this with pictures if needed.
Using wifi and Devicescape ain't that bad for me.
PS
I had to reply just so others who didn't try this rom know its not the rom issue about wifi - I LOVE THIS ROM
My phone- SDA Tornado
Provider - T-Mobile USA
Rom- WM 6.1 by illi and rickwyatt
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Can you link the thread for the exact ROM you used. I am getting a Tmobile SDA soon and want to upgrade it to 6.1, just want to make sure I used the right rom for that works with the SDA as there are multiple threads/roms posted one by illi and another by ricky.
Appreciate it! Thanks.
I have ATT Tilt (AKA Kaiser, Tytn II) with original rom, WM6. I am also paying the $30 for PDA personal unlimited data plan. Internet has been working for the last 7 months since I got the phone but it stopped for the last few days except for Opera Mini and Tethering. QuickGPS, SPB weather/news, Pocket IE will not connect thru 3G or EDGE even though they do establish a connection. But once the connection is established Opera Mini 4 and tethering to my computer work without a problem.
All of these apps however do work through WIFI (they just dont work with data/3g). I tried to do a search on this forum without any help. I tried soft resetting my phone many times. I dont want to hard reset since I have too many programs installed. Under settings>connections>select networks>"i chose MediaNet for both". For proxy settings I chose "This network connects to the internet". A proxy server was not chosen. Username and password are blank. wap.cingular is what is listed under MediaNet.
Thank you,
Any help is appreciated
Since you have the stock ROM, I suggest asking your provider's tech support.
I though about contacting att tech support. But technically the internet does work since I am able to surf with Opera Mini in my PDA. There should be no reason why the other apps wont connect when there is an established connection.
Here is a link to others having the same problem:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-...ll-no-longer-connect-but-opera-mini-will.html
YES! Got it to work now. I don't know what combination worked but here are the steps I took. I first went to the ATT website and followed all the instructions on that page:
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB84444
Then I used restoreHiddenProxy4CWS_0522.cab in Windows folder in the pda. I soft reset and it still didn't work. So next I did removeHiddenProxy4CWS_0522.cab in the Windows folder and soft reset. It started working after that. Hope this helps someone else.
Bye.
Ever since I got my ATT Fuze, I've been getting a pop-up warning box:
Warning
There is a problem
connecting to the GPRS
service in your registered
home network
I started out on the stock ATT ROM, and in the hopes that it would fix the problem I flashed a 6.5 ROM by TAEL which works perfectly but still has the same problem (though the pop-up is much nicer looking now on 6.5!)
Is this a setting? I've searched the forums and "advanced config" for a setting and can't find anything. thanks in advance!
anyone?
The ROM i'm using now is TAEL v.4 from april 10th. Has anyone ever seen this message, or does anyone know if there are settings for GPRS?
last try
anyone ever see this message? Have I discovered the one error that opens up a world of possibilities with this phone? does this unlock the grappling hook? maybe if i ask how to install cab files i'll get a response...
since that didn't get any responses...
Ok, how about this: can I dispose of the battery in a fire?
well, that was useless.
screw this, I'm buying an iphone.
Are you sure,you are using some data plan by your provider? If not,use "nodata" software do disable GPRS connection. You are using some software in background,that tries to connect to the internet(RSS reader,scheduled Weather,Email etc.). Are your GPRS settings correctly set?
wow, I had already given up on this...
Thanks for the reply! I'm not using any data plan (just wifi). I've turned off weather and the only software I've added to the TAEL ROM is Garmin XT. I searched but I couldn't find the "no data" software; and I can't find the GPRS settings in the phone (if there are any)... thanks again!
If you are not using any dataplan,just forget about settings. It seems,that you have some app running on background,that forces the device to connect to the internet(some schedule). Ensure,you haven't scheduled email receiving,RSS,weather etc.automaticaly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467813