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duplicating phone

I have multiple tilts, and want to make them all the same... is there a way that after I've got one working the way I want it to quickly duplicate/copy everything to another tilt?
I've looked at the kitchen stuff, but need a good walk thru to make heads or tails,,,
I basically am taking someones already cooked ROM, then modifying it and adding the CABS I want, and the config settings I want for the phone. I am also changing start menu layout to my liking.
thanks in advance!
-mike

I did a search and can't find an easy answer to this. Anyone have a suggestion?

you can use sprite backup and then do a "upgrade" restore to get most of your stuff on the other tilts. will need to reconfigure email though. please read the help and faq at Sprite's website before you do it.

You want aprogram called SPB Kiosk. I'ts not cheap, but I did some beta testing for them & can probably send you a test copy that's fully functioning. PM me if u want.

why do you need multiple tilts? not to be a smart ass but just dont see the logic. in regard to your question why not install the same rom/radio on each and load your preferred cab files on an sd card and just load them up. its a bit tedious however it shouldnt exactly be brain surgery. plus use pim backup so each phone can have same contacts etc...

Probably b/c like me they are for family &/or business use.
swtaltima said:
why do you need multiple tilts? not to be a smart ass but just dont see the logic. in regard to your question why not install the same rom/radio on each and load your preferred cab files on an sd card and just load them up. its a bit tedious however it shouldnt exactly be brain surgery. plus use pim backup so each phone can have same contacts etc...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the suggestions so far are to backup the programs and settings but not the ROM. Am I confused?

What you are looking for is something like Sprite Clone (but it aint cheap).

"Kloning the Kaiser"
KODIAC said:
I have multiple tilts, and want to make them all the same... is there a way that after I've got one working the way I want it to quickly duplicate/copy everything to another tilt?
I've looked at the kitchen stuff, but need a good walk thru to make heads or tails,,,
I basically am taking someones already cooked ROM, then modifying it and adding the CABS I want, and the config settings I want for the phone. I am also changing start menu layout to my liking.
thanks in advance!
-mike
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Spb Backup does a complete backup and restore of everything you have installed, all PIM data, and all Register settings, but doesn't install the ROM. I would think you could flash the ROM you want on every other device, and then take the Restore file from the complete unit and run it on every other unit. The Restore file is a self-contained .EXE file, it doesn't need the program to be installed (because the whole point is that it will reinstall everything even if your current program structure is FUBAR)

Camera and Backup?

Hey all,
I'm have problems with my camera... Everytime I try to take a picture, the following message appears;
Unable to capture.
Not enough memory.
36001:111:0
But yet, both my sd card and internal memory have a lot of space available. Yet, the cam stopped working a few days ago on its own. Any fix for that???
At the same time, can someone tell me how to change the folder where to save the pictures? Like redirecting them to my sd card??? I've done that b4, but I forgot how.... Things we forget sometimes...
Also, I'd like to use something like SPB backup to backup the information on my phone, especially my contact list in the internal memory. I want to upgrade to TNT 19213 Vanilla. It has WM6.1, which is mainly what I want.
Thanx,
Phil

dude, are you writing a blog or something?
PIM backup is what you need to backup your contacts.
use the task manager to kill what ever process is draining your ram for the camera.
search for those.

reply...
Hey SVI,
Thanks for the heads up. And no, I'm not writing a blog... Just asking a friendly community for some good advice!
I'll check Pim backup and see what I get. By the way, I've tried task manager, cut out all the op's that drain power to the whole unit! And it still gives me the message...
Well, I suppose that it might fix the problem if I'd change rom. But for now, I'd like to have the camera handy, capture that funny moment - for kicks!
Anyone got a patch available?
Phil
p.s.- how about redirecting the pics or vids to my sd card... How do we do that?

on the camera options menu. camera settings tools options.
if you cant do that, then the camera options package is broken.
flash different rom.

S.V.I said:
on the camera options menu. camera settings tools options.
if you cant do that, then the camera options package is broken.
flash different rom.
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Yeah in the tools there is a choice of where to store. Are you using the original rom or a flashed? it may be a problem with the flashed rom. AFter unlocking always flash your carriers rom (WM5) before flashing a new rom as some roms seem to leave residue that corrupt you new. Also SPL of 3.06 will speed your boot and i like the radio 2.71 as there is not missed calles bug. That and 2.19 are the best.
Have fun flashing!

Restore a back up after ROM upgrade?

I'm currently running a cooked wm 6.1 ROM, if I want to upgrade is there a way to backup/restore my non-rom programs and PIM info to a new ROM using sprite or spb? I heard sprite allows you to restore across ROM/devises but I looked through all options and there wasn't one that I could see about only backing up non-rom info. I hope this makes any sense and if anyone has answer I sincerely thank you in advance.

short and sweet, you can't backup programs
You can backup their installers though (cabs) (on your storage card) and use sdauto run with a uc compliant rom to reinstall all of your programs.
but if you are not a frequent flasher than i would just suggest writing down everything you have installed and reinstalling it.
PIM backup will store things like contacts, messages ect.

joel2009 said:
short and sweet, you can't backup programs
You can backup their installers though (cabs) (on your storage card) and use sdauto run with a uc compliant rom to reinstall all of your programs.
but if you are not a frequent flasher than i would just suggest writing down everything you have installed and reinstalling it.
PIM backup will store things like contacts, messages ect.
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thanks for the response, the sdauto thing sounds promising. I did see it in the kitchen but I don't know how it works.

I believe the latest SPB backup has an option for restoring after a ROM change. However I have not fully investigated this.
Mike

Since i've been backing up and flashing for a long long while now, i've had the distinct pleasure of finding out that in most cases, you can use a previous backup on a new rom unless the system structure stays the same.
you CAN back programs up, as mike said using SPB Backup (Or clone.. if you can afford it )

nir36 said:
Since i've been backing up and flashing for a long long while now, i've had the distinct pleasure of finding out that in most cases, you can use a previous backup on a new rom unless the system structure stays the same.
you CAN back programs up, as mike said using SPB Backup (Or clone.. if you can afford it )
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thanks for the response. just curious, if you're cooking a new rom to remove some programs that you found you didn't need, then restore a back up will it put those file back into your windows folder? I only ask because I have an apache and main memory mb's are like Manhattan real estate, there's very little of it and it's very valuable Also what's the difference between spb clone and backup? The description sound about the same. Thanks again

There's another thread going on here on the same issue.
Even if it has the feature, i would personally not recommend it. Going through the time to reinstall your stuff (use Sashimi) is more worth it imo.

12gage said:
thanks for the response. just curious, if you're cooking a new rom to remove some programs that you found you didn't need, then restore a back up will it put those file back into your windows folder? I only ask because I have an apache and main memory mb's are like Manhattan real estate, there's very little of it and it's very valuable Also what's the difference between spb clone and backup? The description sound about the same. Thanks again
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SPB Clone, for instance, backs up all program files folder. meaning you will get all system files and all program files directories back after the backup.
there are problems with it tho. if the app tries to update a different rom it gets stuck in most cases and stuff won't work and so.. since it replaces stuff in the new rom with stuff from the old rom.
as said here.. you should install everything again after flashing a new rom...and use backups when working on the same one.

[UPDATE!] AMAZING ALL-in-ONE CAB :) WM6.5 or WM6.1 - EASY INSTALL!

#4 - ADDED MY SOURCE FILES!!!! Just in case u wanna change something
Ok guys...here we go again I try my best to put some of t7he things i like into the same cab...looks huge...but looks nice Some of the best features without touching too much the rom. DISCOVER YOURSELF Is all I can say
1. Random contacts retouch
2. Volume retouch
3. M2D DJ Koa retouch and retouch with Landscape
4. workaround Honeycomb...DJ Koa retouch (best feature is with Josh 21198 v1 ...seems to be fast and skin works better)
5. Keyboard Skin
6. DJ Koa 6.5 Skin (i try to put big menus...but fixing)
7. ...some more tweaks specially on manilla
PS - I will keep adding/fixing things Hugs
Ai ai ai....people complaining about loosing data with this cab. Well..I tested pretty much times with different roms. In any case, please backup ur data before install and please: make sure you have enough space to install and work. And follow the proper steps down. Is easy. And please feedback with ur rom's so I can keep testing.
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Pre-install:
YOU MUST HAVE A SDCARD!How to install?
1. DISABLE TOUCH OR M2D IN TODAY!
2. RUN CAB
3. DON'T LET IT SLEEP WHILE INSTALL!

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Looks nice but how do we install two zip files?

Source files!
Ok my friends!!!! I decided to share with you guys the source files for this so that everything is clear If u feel u can change source.
I used Cabwiz to pack it. I FEEL THE Source!
1. Install cabwiz
2. Create a folder to cabwiz folder and unzip the inf into there
3. Unzip the other zips to same folder
4. Run ..\cabwiz "DJKOA M2D 1.00.4000.1903.inf" /compress
it will generate the CAB.
Cheers

Won't install for me, says installation unsuccessful because of insufficient system privileges.
Phone was connected to pc all through installation so did not got to sleep.

thankssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Good stuff mate but this should be posted in Kaiser software section Anyway, going to have a spin at this.

piplewis said:
Won't install for me, says installation unsuccessful because of insufficient system privileges.
Phone was connected to pc all through installation so did not got to sleep.
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djkoa, this is probably because of a single file. Ussaully a dll will cause this. Some dll's don't like being installed via cab. They must be manually copied. Another problem could be that piplewis has a dll or file installed that can't be overwriten. Another usaully a dll problem. I've noticed some dll's, once you replace it, you can't replace it again. The work around I found is to rename said dll as .bak which will cause the ROM to use the original again and allowing the file to finally be replaced.
Overwise, great job, only ther suggestion. I thought about making 1 big cab myself, but realized large cab's are difficult to uninstalled. If the user changes 1 small thing, it won't uninstall and will cause them to need to hard reset. Have that problem with NeoTitanium. People change a registry or something and BAM, can't uninstall it.

piplewis said:
Won't install for me, says installation unsuccessful because of insufficient system privileges.
Phone was connected to pc all through installation so did not got to sleep.
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Same for me. Im really hoping we find a solution to this cuz this looks awesome. I dont have M2D installed though, i dont know if that matters.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
djkoa, this is probably because of a single file. Ussaully a dll will cause this. Some dll's don't like being installed via cab. They must be manually copied. Another problem could be that piplewis has a dll or file installed that can't be overwriten. Another usaully a dll problem. I've noticed some dll's, once you replace it, you can't replace it again. The work around I found is to rename said dll as .bak which will cause the ROM to use the original again and allowing the file to finally be replaced.
Overwise, great job, only ther suggestion. I thought about making 1 big cab myself, but realized large cab's are difficult to uninstalled. If the user changes 1 small thing, it won't uninstall and will cause them to need to hard reset. Have that problem with NeoTitanium. People change a registry or something and BAM, can't uninstall it.
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Pretty spot on when it comes to .dll You can make the the cab itself to step by step rename->copy it. Other than that its a ok project, one idea I thought of is whit youre project to make it more customizeable is to take advatage of one if the autoinstallers. And then make a folder whit all the cabs, if you make the whole SJABANG finish to go out of the box you can lateron change its contents aswell as the users themself.
I have 2-3 of theese setups myself whit payed content as stuff from lakeridge, SPB and so on. Making a cab is good training but not wery customizable in the loong run on this project IMO.

raiisak said:
Pretty spot on when it comes to .dll You can make the the cab itself to step by step rename->copy it. Other than that its a ok project, one idea I thought of is whit youre project to make it more customizeable is to take advatage of one if the autoinstallers. And then make a folder whit all the cabs, if you make the whole SJABANG finish to go out of the box you can lateron change its contents aswell as the users themself.
I have 2-3 of theese setups myself whit payed content as stuff from lakeridge, SPB and so on. Making a cab is good training but not wery customizable in the loong run on this project IMO.
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Another work around for Uninstalling, is to reinstall it first. It's a bit time consuming, but even if WinMo can't uninstall the software when trying to reinstall, it'll still let you reinstall replacing all original files and "Should" let you uninstall finally. A few extra steps and time consuming true, but better than a HArd Reset if it works.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Another work around for Uninstalling, is to reinstall it first. It's a bit time consuming, but even if WinMo can't uninstall the software when trying to reinstall, it'll still let you reinstall replacing all original files and "Should" let you uninstall finally. A few extra steps and time consuming true, but better than a HArd Reset if it works.
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Tricks of the trade ".bak reminds me of something "
Would just be better as seperate installs .cabs.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Another work around for Uninstalling, is to reinstall it first. It's a bit time consuming, but even if WinMo can't uninstall the software when trying to reinstall, it'll still let you reinstall replacing all original files and "Should" let you uninstall finally. A few extra steps and time consuming true, but better than a HArd Reset if it works.
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Getting the perfect setup is wery time consuming, its no secret that the order its installed, register strings overlap eachoter and so on will count for the final result. Reinstalling the cab just to have it removed from installed list doesnt mean you have a good uninstallation. Going from one setup to another whit several cabs when it comes to interface, its almsout inevitable that you going to hard reset to have a fresh installation.
My thought was that its easyer to update the package itself, not update the software on the phone

Ok, I disabled m2d and without soft resetting (after 1st attempt) tried to install again. This time it seems to have installed.
Just restarting now, will let you know.
*Edit*
Yup, seems to have installed fine now.

I can't uninstall......hardreset now

Hi, is it possible you can make this into a .cab.

piplewis said:
Ok, I disabled m2d and without soft resetting (after 1st attempt) tried to install again. This time it seems to have installed.
Just restarting now, will let you know.
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Hmm, I think I am going to pass on this on for now. All brewed in like this is unlikly that im going to have a good installation IMO. Should be step by step whit whit atleast one reset as far as I could see (HTC HOME),. Good combination, no doubth. But to just gather everything in one big cab im not a fan of. Also I would take advatage of pre-xml in making of this
I dont mean to be critical in a bad way here, its good training and as I sad good combination. I didnt pop the setup.dll as I stopped looking after a minutt, clearly you havent used that much time on this mister Also this installation is expect upon that you have a SD card in phone upon installation (but who doesnt have that, but still a good thing to inform on).

I perform a remove it, run it and after about 5 minutes of it can not remove so I hardreset
after hardreset (keep in storage Kaiser) the entire all data on my storage end are lost, empty storage .... please help me,
So....anyone try it and check

sported said:
I perform a remove it, run it and after about 5 minutes of it can not remove so I hardreset
after hardreset (keep in storage Kaiser) the entire all data on my storage end are lost, empty storage .... please help me,
So....anyone try it and check
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That is what happens when you hard reset the phone. All the data:contacts, messages, pictures, songs, etc. are lost. You should had used ppm backup (I think that is what its called) to save your contacts and messages on a sd card on computer.

dooyoo222 said:
That is what happens when you hard reset the phone. All the data:contacts, messages, pictures, songs, etc. are lost. You should had used ppm backup (I think that is what its called) to save your contacts and messages on a sd card on computer.
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You probobly mean PIM backup and he can find it here: http://frifor.com/download/IBI/PIM_BACKUP_V2.8_MONX.CAB

How do you Back-Up before a flash?

Well just been reading the Flashers Anonymous thread and started to get the hint that you could back up all of your settings rather than just things like contacts w/ PIMbackup.
What do you use and what does it do?
Thanks.

I use sprite backup 6.5.4. Backs up contacts, registry settings, installed programs, preferences...pretty much everything.

telegraph0000 said:
I use sprite backup 6.5.4. Backs up contacts, registry settings, installed programs, preferences...pretty much everything.
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hello , see the bottom of my signature, Sashimi, its awesome, take the time to see the videos he has, awesome app, it will set up just about everything after a new rom flash.
lupe
sorry, was trying to quote mcspikesky, not telegraph000, my bad

i sync with activesync
stuff on sd don't for obvious reasons require backup
and to get back to the org rom if need be is just flashing
that version rom

If you want to take my advise do NOT NEVER EVER backup any thing else than your PIM because every new ROM WILL have different registry settings and custom chef tweaks!!!
You may backup your username and opera settings using Sashimi and Opera Backup but keep everything else out of you backup.
You may also play with installed programs on the SD card. A lot of them do work just by creating a link into the Windows\Start Up\Programs folder.
For my part I DO have a full backup all the time in case a ROM hard resets and you reinstall it but for new ROM flashes please use only PIM backup. Though SPB Backup for example offers a backup/restore mode to restore "after new ROM flash" it DOES NOT WORK if the new ROM has dramatic changes!
Note:
If you have programs which don't work linked really take a look into the Sashimi installer.

Right...I backup a rom to try out a new one...and if I don't like it, I go back to the previous one and restore. Yes...Sashimi rocks...
*Proud member of XDA's flashers anonymous.

Sashimi is a great way to go; it's a little more flexible than UC in my opinion, and I think it's a good idea to import your settings and install your cabs after you've messed around with the new ROM instead of during customization. That way, you know what cabs to install. I've got a small library of some useful reg settings over here, as well as some settings files and what-not that you can install to back up things (I need to update it one of these days). I've also got a step-by-step that does an ok job of backing up manila settings (it's far from perfect). In the very least, you should back up reg keys that hold registration info for software you've bought, like sk tools or mobile shell. It's easy to find the keys, and you really don't want to waste your time re-entering crap like that every time you flash, do you?
I agree, though, you don't want to do a wholesale import of the entire registry, which is what Sprite backup will do for you. That's just crazy. You want to be as selective as possible. I think that even using something like the rom upgrade backup mode with spb backup is a bad idea. There's a good chance you'll over-write some nice performance tweaks cooked in by the chef with old reg settings that don't work as well. You'll also never really know how well the new rom works, because you won't get to use it with the proper settings.

Is there any good software for backing up email account settings? I hate setting them all up after each rom flash.

Backing up email accounts and settings
I use SPB backup, well worth the money, to back up my PIM data and emails.
Didn't miss a single beat over God knows how many flashes.
I just back up prior flashing, flash, restore, done.

I have both Sprite & PIM running scheduled backups every day - but after a flash only use PIM to restore to prevent the registry complications.
Also have a decent UC setup installing apps, editing the registry for me etc, and have made some cab files (or edited install cabs) to register anything which requires it.
I've found that syncing with activsync before running the PIM restore prevents me getting duplicate contacts / meetings, but this might just be because i have a setting wrong!
Never tried Sashimi, i got UC working, and it does everything i need it to!
@ Maxh - i have an XML file which is called in the UC setup which restores all my e-mail accounts and settings (only leaves the password blank for me). UC isnt easy to get sorted first time, so have some patience, and build it up slowly (mine calls 33 cabs & 16 XML files, so if i change anything, i dont have to re-write the whole thing, just edit out the removed / changed file)

people should realize though that
take
joe have a tmobile branded rom version 1.234 that his device came with
joe upgrades to custom blabla rom version 1.567 don't like it and want to go back
joe will not get more back by flashing a backup he made himself of the 1.234 rom
then he will be just flashing the rom 1.234 he can download at tmobile
a rom is a rom and it makes no difference if it was the very bits originally stored on his device
then a rom from the site as long as version and branding is the same