How could I back-up Samsung SGH-i600 ROM?
>I've just got a brand new one today (along with 1Gb SD card)
>I'd like to UpGrade it to WM6, but need insurance: I can reverse it back
..for those who succeeded UpGrade to WM6, any one feels sorry and need to reverse to Original Version? Why?
I'm sorry for too demanding, any help is appreciate
..sorry for my English
Hello Community and Experts ;-)
I am really new to this ROM-things and this is my question too. Maybe some experts here can help me out. Would be fine
I got my brand new European Samsung SGH-i600 with QWERTY keyboard these days with ROM-Version i600XXGC2. Can somenone tell me, what kind of ROM this is? And is there a newer Firmware for my device?
And now I would like to know if i can roll back to WM5 if I upgrade to WM6 and don't want to keep it and HOW TO DO THIS.
Can i backup my current ROM exately like it's now, so i will have the same i600 i have now? Is this possible? And how to do this?
And with my i600 came the original WM5 disc. So can I install from this disc to WM5 again, if i don't want to keep WM6 and have the same state like now?
Would be really nice, if someone could help me out. I'm not afraid of experimenting with my device
Oh, two more questions
When i upgrade to WM6, is there a possibility to install and use the Carousel Home Screen? I like it very much in WM5 and would like to use it again in WM6.
And is there a possibility to make some settings in the internal mail program or a registry hack so that the mail programm does not delete the mails from the server when i delete it in the program?
Thank you for your help
Greetz
Related
hi huys, can i upgrade the windows on my xdaIIs? if so how is this done?
I have had a brief look through the site with no look finding anythin,
Also can i create a folder in my programs folder to hold files/programs, i ask as i am connecting to my laptop nia cradel, sending files/music etc and i dont know where they are going.
Thanks
Alan
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel
thanks for the link, it looks all very confusing, which 1 do i install?
At the moment i have wm2003 2nd edition ver 4.21.1088 (build 15045.2.6.0)
Thanks
Alan
If it looks confusing, it's probably best that you don't mess with it until it stops looking confusing.
Everything you need to know is there, I suggest you spend more time in understanding what you need to do before you jump in and mess up your device.
thats exactly what i was thinking, thanks, could you tell me what advantages i would get by upgrading?
Thanks
Alan
The ability to run WM5, persistent storage, and access to WM5 only applications.
There are a whole host of reasons why WM5 is better than 2003se, and many older posts that answer that very question.
Take a look on the blueangel forum and go back a year or so. There's many posts tha go into lots of detail about the pros and cons.
I am experiencing problems after installing wm6 on my treo 750v
- i go 2006 got shrinked screen
- agenda one is jamming the system
- phone changed from unlocked to locked for vodaphone only
My question is how to solve all this. As updates from different suppliers are not yet adapted for wm6, I suggest that downgrading to wm5 is the best alternative. It is just ...... how to fix this ? I checked this forum, without success.
As I expect other will be having the same problem, the best thing is probably to start new post and ask the more brighter people on this forum to help.
So: please help, how to downgrade treo 750v wm6 to wm 5 ?
Thanks a lot on before hand !
Here is a solution.
done
thanks, with this reply and some other tips on the forum I managed to get wm6 working perfectly.
I can not reproduce the trick exactly but here's some points.
1. I used the extrom unlockers procedure on the forum, see wikipedia treo 750v on this forum
2. used this file T750URT.exe, see link: http://www.palm.com/nz/support/downloads/treo/750vupdate_recovery.html
Afterwards phone worked again, agenda one worked.
However, the screen size problem with igo unfortunately remains, so I had to install tomtom, which did not have the problem
Sorry for the iGo problem but glad that your device work again.
chefke said:
I am experiencing problems after installing wm6 on my treo 750v
- i go 2006 got shrinked screen
- agenda one is jamming the system
- phone changed from unlocked to locked for vodaphone only
My question is how to solve all this. As updates from different suppliers are not yet adapted for wm6, I suggest that downgrading to wm5 is the best alternative. It is just ...... how to fix this ? I checked this forum, without success.
As I expect other will be having the same problem, the best thing is probably to start new post and ask the more brighter people on this forum to help.
So: please help, how to downgrade treo 750v wm6 to wm 5 ?
Thanks a lot on before hand !
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Wait a tick.....a firmware upgrade shouldn't lock your phone if it's already been unlocked.
up up up up up
Please help, does anyone have a link to the update recovery tool?
thanks
Update Recovery Tool for Treo 750v
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
So, if i understand you correct your plan is to create a wm6 rom for the magician, right? This would be really cool...
P.S.
kingt0t said:
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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i think you mean "guys" when you say "gays"
good luck with your project!
Kingt0t, what you want to do ain't something that hasn't been thought before...yes, you can do a WM6 for magician (hell, you can invent a new OS if you wish...lol) The thing is...time.
There's no drivers for the magician hardware built inside any WM6 ROM...(well, not entirely true - there's probable a few WM 5/6 ROMs which might have a few drivers for our hardware - but not all that are required so to make a workable magician ROM).
You probably would need to create drivers for all missing/required magician hardware...oh and above all...you probably would need to create a special/new bootloader because it seems to me that since WM5, the bootloader has changed it's way of loading the Windows Mobile OSes... (They use what is now called IPL/SPL...)
I'm not trying to discourage you...it's just that we (xda community) have heard about so many people with the same thoughts, giving up after realizing the enormous amount of work that would be required so to build a working wm6 magician ROM
Anyway, if you're really into it, then start by studying what hardware the magician has and how it works...
I can give you a few ideias right now:
- The CPU (PXA272) uses what is called a strataflash (It is glued to the cpu), which i believe there's not many models with this concept(if any). Most of them uses what is called DOC (Disk On Chip).
(if this ain't true, please someone correct me if i'm wrong)
- IDK if there's a driver for this CPU model in any other PPC with WM5/WM6...
- You will probably need to disassemble alot of dlls / .sys / Etc, so to figure out the functions names; what do they do; how do they interact with the rest of the OS...etc...
- Last but not the least, you would need to strip out alot of stuff since the magician only has 64Mb ROM or you could study how HARET (for linux) works and how it allows us to boot a SD Card partition image...
oh well...start posting away if you need help...for shure some gurus in here will start dropping you ideias, concepts, tests that were already made...
Best Regards,
Keeper
P.S: honestely, if someday microsoft decides to release the source code for WM2003 (like they did for win9x and windows 2000), then maybe, just maybe, we will be able to compile a modified version with some parts of the WM 5/6/xxx...
Maybe this is a good start, at least for WM5?
Ubiquio 401 has the same PXA272 CPU and 64MB ROM as the Magician, but it comes with WM5. Perhaps the IPL/SPL and CPU drivers that come with the FW will make less work for some smart person to make a custom Magician ROM.
Here is the Ubiquio 401 ROM, maybe somebody can extract some useful stuff from it:
ubiquio-401-v1.12.26.rar
I think it's also the same as the Gigabyte g-Smart i. g-Smart i uses WM5 AKU2. I don't know which AKU the Ubiquio uses.
Gnat,
There's one big issue in all this... When someone wants to seriously mess around with an operating system and it's "BIOS" (aka booloader) having direct access to the hardware is a must. Since we don't know the JTAG test point pins for the magician and knowing that no one is willing to trash their magician so that we can find out where they are located on the magician's PCB, (which would allow us to test various bootloaders + roms, without the risk of loosing our magicians), i doubt that anyone in here is willing to do blind tests with different model ROMs / Cooked roms, without some sort of backup like this one.
Check the last pages of this thread so to see what i'm talking about...(hell, check all this thread so to see what can happen when you flash something and there's a problem with it or along the installation of it...) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319354
So, if you're willing to do this ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG )...or know someone that is, then we might be able to start doing something... :-|
If we had JTAG access, we could start using the Windows CE 5.0 Evaluation Kit which would allow us to communicate directly to the hardware via JTAG and test cooked bootloaders and ROMs. (check this link for more info: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa447041.aspx )
Keeper
hope this dream come true....WM6 or just WM5 for IMATE JAM
kingt0t said:
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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if you do this, many will make a donation for your hard work...a NEW WM5 or WM6 ROM FOR the MAGICIAN.
Wow, that's a lot of work to find JTAG points. I have even more respect for people like Helmi if he had to find JTAG points for every device he has made a WM5 and WM6 for!
I don't think I will be finding the JTAG points on my Magician - I don't want to kill it! However, if anyone has a dead, fried or water damaged Magician, I will gladly pull the BGA off and trace the JTAG points.
If the JTAG points have a specific "signature" when viewed on an oscilloscope, I would be happy to trace them that way since I do have a 100MHz DSO available.
i hope too, this dream to ours magician
Oh btw...the taxist russian guy which released the 2.01~3TX rom did NOT made a WM6 for the magician - He simply opened up a magician ROM, changed a few icons, sounds, apps and packed it again...the Operating system still is WM2003se.
if you guys want to try and mod your own roms, use the following tools: alpinenbfdecode.pl, splitrom.pl and dumprom. They are available at the itsme website. ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/ )
Anyway, check this thread...there's a small script on how to re-create the XIP structure: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=3924&st=1020#entry744997
Once again, this ain't gonna change your OS (there's no WM5/6 IPL/SPL for the magician) - it will only allow you to mod a few things... :-(
Keeper
Zoneaone
It very fantastic for your effort. thanks.
are you still there kingT0T?
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
okey kingt0t...so what you want to do is something like taxist did...a modded ROM with a WM2k3 kernel core...
Well, one thing that i would suggest that you could start doing, would be a new bluetooth stack based on the WM 2k5/2k6 one (widcomm, i think)...
Anyway, idk russian and has so, i don't understand much of what is said on that link, but what i did understand is that taxist found a way of modifying the programs in a way that he could insert them has XIP (eXecution In Place), without breaking the expected original execution addresses...the thing is: he never revealed how he has done it...
There's a few guys in there that are trying to do what he has done by using the three tools that i've posted previously, but idk if they did acomplished the "XIP chain ROM address redirectioning"...
Regards,
Keeper
kingt0t said:
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
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First prioduce a WM5.0 ROM instead of talking!
Yés kingtot wm6 4 Magician it is not a dream,it is a mirage...
kingt0t said:
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
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I'm not sure I understand. You want a WM2003SE that only looks like WM5/WM6? But then it can't run WM5/WM6-specific apps... what purpose is that? I hardly see the point. If that's what you want, it already exists and besides, you can just use Wisbar or something similar and make a theme.
WM2003SuperSe must run wm5 apps. it's main task !!!!
still dream or stop
what's going on?
wm6 again became dream
Hello,
Im a new person on forum and this is my first topic.
I have very big problem, yesterday i instaled on phone my friend (i607 Black Jack) Windows Mobile 5 but for Samsung i600
On this moment i have a lot of problems, for example: now i cannot install again correct WM because my pc don't see phone, activesync doesn't work, i can not charge my phone because input in phone not function
I cannot do it nothing, actual instaled system is WM5 for i600 but a lot of programs have error etc etc
I need really our help because this is not my phone but my friend
PS.
I have i600 and i'm very happy
Thx a lot for help,
Regards,
Please, who help me?
You phone is dead, send to service in Gdańsk
Any information yet? But please only good
Ok
go to PW in polish forum
Nokser thx a lot, today I'll hope solve problem
Hi. I brought Qtek 9100, but the problem is that it is in German. I can't change the language (it's not possible by its settings). I installed new ROM (WWE - i don't know what does it mean, but friend of mine said it) in Eglish, then after restarting i srats extrakting something by itself. The pocket is O2 (it has a brand). So, my question is:
How could I change once for all the language from German to English?
Help me, please!
Welcome to forums
Perhaps the ROM you are using is not in WWE
I would reflash to another WWE ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356
You can enven have a wm6.5!
Good luck,
Someone told me that wm6.5 would be "heavy" for Qtek 9100. Is that right?
By the way, I couldn't find wm6.1, only wm6.5. Can I have a little help with locating wm6.1?
Well, that will depend on how much RAM you have, but see my example: I´m running 6.5 ROM on my Universal 64Mb of RAM and all goes good!, of course slightly slower than 6.1 but it´s worth to have the new one!
Please use search to find 6.1!
Here 2 examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409491
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430197
Really, I can't handle with it. I didn't find any ROm out there. Please, give me a hand with this.
Can't anyone help me to fix it? I can't remove this German language...
Please, help me to fix it.