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Hi guys, I decided that my first ROM to flash is going to be Dutty's. Now, before you say "Read the Wiki" or "Read the Stickies" or "Read this Post" I already have, and I couldn't find the answers to these questions:
1. Do I have to HardSPL my device every time I flash a new ROM, or just once before the first one?
2. How can I upgrade/make sure I'm running Windows Mobile 6.1?
3. Do I flash a ROM before flashing a radio, or vice-versa?
Thanks
mbarvian said:
Hi guys, I decided that my first ROM to flash is going to be Dutty's. Now, before you say "Read the Wiki" or "Read the Stickies" or "Read this Post" I already have, and I couldn't find the answers to these questions:
1. Do I have to HardSPL my device every time I flash a new ROM, or just once before the first one?
2. How can I upgrade/make sure I'm running Windows Mobile 6.1?
3. Do I flash a ROM before flashing a radio, or vice-versa?
Thanks
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I have made the words i believe to be wholly untrue bold so they stand out more. Here is the link to the answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Please don't clutter the forum with these kind of questions. I know that ALL of those questions are either self evident...or they have been answered 1000 times before.
Hes right, they're all there, i discovered this for myself after i asked the same thing!
I'm sorry if i sounded harsh. If you're feeling understanding, try looking through the threads in the "rom DEVELOPMENT" forum and see how many threads actually have anything to do with developing roms. Maybe you'll understand my frustrations.
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I'm sorry if i sounded harsh. If you're feeling understanding, try looking through the threads in the "rom DEVELOPMENT" forum and see how many threads actually have anything to do with developing roms. Maybe you'll understand my frustrations.
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yeah, I realize it probably is very annoying, and i'll try searching again. thanks
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yeah, I realize it probably is very annoying, and i'll try searching again. thanks
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In the interest of being nice, here's the answers to your questions. I know it's a little overwhelming when you first are taking the plunge.
1. Do I have to HardSPL my device every time I flash a new ROM, or just once before the first one?
you only have to flash hardspl once. Before you flash custom roms. Absolutely do nothing else till you've done this.
2. How can I upgrade/make sure I'm running Windows Mobile 6.1?
Any of the new roms that are released should be WM6.1 roms, so just try a few and see which you like the best...i personally love shogun's Death V2 rom the best of all that are out right now.
3. Do I flash a ROM before flashing a radio, or vice-versa?
It doesn't matter, most roms have compatible radios with them, but if they don't then just download a radio and flash it before or after the rom
thank you!
Mods please delete this thread.
Looks like RuffRuff has dumped the HTC Raphael ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406943
Is it possible to create a new rom for the Kaiser from it?
In the post he say's that device felt very fast compared to the Diamond.
Maybe we could benefit from it also.
OMG, this is what i'm waiting for
Oh man, thats gonna be hottest topic i think, and hottest awaiting for a new rom!
hang.tuah said:
OMG, this is what i'm waiting for
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Perhaps the HTC stuff from this rom, and the OS from the Xperia 20226 - although both of these are Beta roms, stability may be an issue.
Dl'ing both to have a look...
http://www.mediafire.com/?yybn0wtzgtm
http://rapidshare.com/files/126151541/SYS-20226-Xperia.rar.html
I wouldn't get your hopes up. Reading the post it seems that it will benefit Diamond owners more than Kaiser owners, plus there's nothing there that can help with porting Manilla over.
But I've been wrong before, although it was only 1 time.
fb401 said:
I wouldn't get your hopes up. Reading the post it seems that it will benefit Diamond owners more than Kaiser owners, plus there's nothing there that can help with porting Manilla over.
But I've been wrong before, although it was only 1 time.
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The UI interface won't work on Kaiser, we know this already. Looking for some new Builds though and maybe better drivers....how about some new apps. This is what I would like to see
AllTheWay said:
The UI interface won't work on Kaiser, we know this already. Looking for some new Builds though and maybe better drivers....how about some new apps. This is what I would like to see
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Hope this isn't too n00b of a question, but what about the OS version? If the UI won't work, that 's fine; but perhaps the OS is a bit more optimized and will work well for the kaiser..? what about the Radio? can it be used? Is it any better than what we have now?
Thanks in advance for any new information and answers to my questions!
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Hope this isn't too n00b of a question, but what about the OS version? If the UI won't work, that 's fine; but perhaps the OS is a bit more optimized and will work well for the kaiser..? what about the Radio? can it be used? Is it any better than what we have now?
Thanks in advance for any new information and answers to my questions!
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Nope radio's won't work. GSLEON bravely tried to flash a Diamond Radio and it bricked his device. I would recommend that you wouldn't do this.
The OS version is what I am talking about.
The Windows build is 19960.1.2.2
Did the dump and alot of nice programs built into the SYS folder....problem is like the Diamond is that it is made for a VGA screen so in order to use a majority of the programs they need to be scaled down or reconfigured...
Doing a ROM right now with an XIP Port and moderated SYS port will let you know how it goes!!!
ryncppr, Im counting on you Bub!
Tried to install the opera .cab for it.
Got this Error.
Code:
Setup Error:
Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again.
ryncppr said:
Did the dump and alot of nice programs built into the SYS folder....problem is like the Diamond is that it is made for a VGA screen so in order to use a majority of the programs they need to be scaled down or reconfigured...
Doing a ROM right now with an XIP Port and moderated SYS port will let you know how it goes!!!
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Dam man i see u ain't waste no time. hope u report back with some hella good news.
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Tried to install the opera .cab for it.
Got this Error.
Code:
Setup Error:
Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again.
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send the cab file to ryncppr and let him give it try once he finish putting together his test rom.
punkcell said:
send the cab file to ryncppr and let him give it try once he finish putting together his test rom.
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I'm sure he has it already
Arlop said:
Looks like RuffRuff has dumped the HTC Raphael ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406943
Is it possible to create a new rom for the Kaiser from it?
In the post he say's that device felt very fast compared to the Diamond.
Maybe we could benefit from it also.
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Thanks for this nice info, downloading now
sakajati said:
Thanks for this nice info, downloading now
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Now we got another chef in the kitchen. This should be interesting.
It's a cook off!!!
EDIT: Gonna sticky the post for the time being!
Yep, HyperDragon IIIr coming soon
what kitchen are you guys using, I got the sys folder with all of the stuff in it, but I can't port over the XIP for some reason. Keep getting errors. As a matter of fact, zipped up my SYS folder is 99MB. I cant even get it to build the OS. AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH
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Yep, HyperDragon IIIr coming soon
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Patiently waiting...
Hi guys,
So I downloaded 2 Roms of 6.1 found in this forum (the one from Dr Martin and the one from fireburned)
Now before flashing I have a question about the USPL.
I bought my phone factory unlocked. Do I still need to run that procedure before changing the rom?
Secondly, how do I backup my current ROM? (in case of it going bad)?
Thanks
mystical thing called search function
my recommendation, YES! but if you had used the search, you would had found out the answer yourself.... well, we all where new to this too, but a little bit of interest on the matter is really helpfull if you want to learn about it. asking "already-hunderts-of-time-anwsered" questions is just too lazy.
sorry, if i'm a little rude at you, but in the last time such question where asked just too much... folks, this is a forum, not a hotline!!
for your second question, do a search, and you'll found out why you don't need to backup the rom. if you still want to backup after this, if think, you'll find the answer on how to do it in the wiki...
If there is a SHIP ROM for your carrier, no real reason to backup since you can revert to this.
You will most likely need to use uSPL to temporarily SuperCID your device to allow it to flash any ROM as they are CID-locked. Unlocked simply means it does not have a network/SP lock on it.
kel187 said:
my recommendation, YES! but if you had used the search, you would had found out the answer yourself.... well, we all where new to this too, but a little bit of interest on the matter is really helpfull if you want to learn about it. asking "already-hunderts-of-time-anwsered" questions is just too lazy.
sorry, if i'm a little rude at you, but in the last time such question where asked just too much... folks, this is a forum, not a hotline!!
for your second question, do a search, and you'll found out why you don't need to backup the rom. if you still want to backup after this, if think, you'll find the answer on how to do it in the wiki...
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I understand, but if it's something that comes up often, maybe the mods should make a static post about it? Thats usually to avoid ppl asking the same questions all the time..
Thanks for your input though
good point about the sticky. or we could add it to the wiki, i'll see what i can do in the next few days, but anyone is invited to contribute too (now i'm gettin' lazy, hihi)
D0MZE said:
Hi guys,
Now before flashing I have a question about the USPL.
I bought my phone factory unlocked. Do I still need to run that procedure before changing the rom?
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Same situation here and I had to run the USPL proc to get the new ROM onto my device.
Thanks for all the input
I actually followed Dr Matin Gonzo's guide to update to his rom and it worked perfectly,
I even got to backup my old rom (using the wiki + the SDA Unlock tool)
kel187 said:
good point about the sticky. or we could add it to the wiki, i'll see what i can do in the next few days, but anyone is invited to contribute too (now i'm gettin' lazy, hihi)
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I don't mind helping you, let me know what you need!
Hi everybody
I recived my new raphael a few minutes ago
I already flash hard-spl and unlocked it
now I try to find the latest rom from htc (I hate the at&t roms), but I cant find the latest.
plz be nice with this poor noob and gimme a link or some guide to find the rom
I already search in the original roms section on xda-wiki, but the roms has no date. I am a little dizzy.
thanks
hey dude well anyways...why dont u try the latest AT&T ROM before u go on with a new homemade ROM? i know u said u dont like the AT&T one but at try this one, its ALOT better than the one ur got with u FUZE, ull see some major improvements even with reception of radio 1.12.25.19 and with speed, and some tips, after u went through the setup of windows mobile quickly soft reset(next to the mini usb port) and u wont have all that AT&T Bloat, trust me itll run ALOT quicker all though u need to go in WINDOWS folder and find, MSFT_Security, Opera9.5 and of course TF3D Registry cabs, install those and ull be set from there, good luck man
and heres the URL for the ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487994
I love this forum
thanks I am downloading that radio
(I hate the lot of crap from the at&t radios )
Welcome,
I started with Stock ROM's so as to get an idea of what HTC ships "out of the factory". Have a look at this link ... there's tons of info to get you started.
Raphael Wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael
HTH,
hilaireg said:
Welcome,
I started with Stock ROM's so as to get an idea of what HTC ships "out of the factory". Have a look at this link ... there's tons of info to get you started.
Raphael Wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael
HTH,
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I already look there, but I cant find the latest rom (no dates on the rom page)
XERO_Racer said:
and u wont have all that AT&T Bloat, trust me itll run ALOT quicker all though u need to go in WINDOWS folder and find, MSFT_Security, Opera9.5 and of course TF3D Registry cabs, install those and ull be set from there, good luck man
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I can´t find those archives
ok bro, go to Start->Programs->File Explorer-> then right under the Windows logo on the top let corner click that arror then click on My Device then click on Windows and itll load ALL the files, files u are looking for are...MFST_Security, PT_Mainla_REG, and WM6_PPC_HTC_OPERA9.5, if u cant find these then go to Start->Programs->Search and search the file names from there, good luck need any help feel free to ask
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ok bro, go to Start->Programs->File Explorer-> then right under the Windows logo on the top let corner click that arror then click on My Device then click on Windows and itll load ALL the files, files u are looking for are...MFST_Security, PT_Mainla_REG, and WM6_PPC_HTC_OPERA9.5, if u cant find these then go to Start->Programs->Search and search the file names from there, good luck need any help feel free to ask
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I am a stupid xD I flashed the htc rom xD
sorry, I already find the files.
in the htc rom the keyboard of my fuze is upside down, I cant find any button xD
exist a keyboard_fix?
I already find the keyboard_fix... keyboard working
cool well ill be posting a video of a walkthrough for the FUZE ill let u know when its up
froman said:
I already look there, but I cant find the latest rom (no dates on the rom page)
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The date is typically not posted on the page; the start of a thread usually lends a clue as to when the ROM released. The table is "loosely" organized by HTC ROM version and/or OS build.
This is the last ROM that HTC released:
HTC|RAPH100|HTC__001|5.05.405.1|1.11.25.01|52.58.25.30|20764|1.4.3 1.90
The thread about the ROM will sometimes include links to country specific versions.
HTH,
hilaireg said:
The date is typically not posted on the page; the start of a thread usually lends a clue as to when the ROM released. The table is "loosely" organized by HTC ROM version and/or OS build.
This is the last ROM that HTC released:
HTC|RAPH100|HTC__001|5.05.405.1|1.11.25.01|52.58.25.30|20764|1.4.3 1.90
The thread about the ROM will sometimes include links to country specific versions.
HTH,
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thanks I flashed that version
I try with AT&T rom, but the touchflo3D has that color and at&t looking, I can't use that thing.
Been trying to get used to flashing from SD card but can't seem to find a Stock ROM that is suitable. They all seem to come as exe files. I found a good list of reconstructed 6.0 ROMs but can't find any 6.1 ones.
Does this mean everyone flashes to Stock via USB first? Or am I missing something ?
I would like to know this too!
I pulled the nbh from the exe on at&ts website but when I tried flashing from my sd card it only changed my spl and radio back to stock but not the rom.
try to unrar .exe file with winrar
Take this, Shipped 6.1 ROm, no Radio, no SPL
http://www.4shared.com/file/105398668/839af0c2/HTC_WWE_61_Shipped.html
Open and get the RUU file to your SDCard
Pisca said:
Take this, Shipped 6.1 ROm, no Radio, no SPL
http://www.4shared.com/file/105398668/839af0c2/HTC_WWE_61_Shipped.html
Open and get the RUU file to your SDCard
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Thanks. Look like what I was after. Will give it a try next time .
I think almost all cooks have their own stripped 6.1 ROMs. I have one in my thread, and I think zelendel posted one in TPC's thread.
I posted these before.. but here it is again.
Below is the same is the one linked on the other post above. I just named it with correct version number.
Kaiser HTC ASIA HK WWE 3 34 721 2 no radio
RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 57 502 2 no radio
f1ip said:
I posted these before.. but here it is again.
Below is the same is the one linked on the other post above. I just named it with correct version number.
Kaiser HTC ASIA HK WWE 3 34 721 2 no radio
RUU Kaiser CINGULAR WWE 3 57 502 2 no radio
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Thanks for those . Any particular difference between the two versions? Is the Cingular one onlt for AT&T maybe? I have a UK Orange Tytnii.
Just thought maybe I shouldn't be keeping recommended radio when I reflash ROM? Is it best to reflash original radio first too or doesn't it make any difference?
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I think almost all cooks have their own stripped 6.1 ROMs. I have one in my thread, and I think zelendel posted one in TPC's thread.
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Damned if I can see anything in your ROM thread or in TPC's lol. I've also tried every search term I can think of.
All I can think is people who bother to do the recommeneded flashing back to stock must be using usb.
Anyways I have a couple now so next time here goes .........
Thank you.
Restorer said:
Damned if I can see anything in your ROM thread or in TPC's lol. I've also tried every search term I can think of.
All I can think is people who bother to do the recommeneded flashing back to stock must be using usb.
Anyways I have a couple now so next time here goes .........
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Seriously! You must be joking right?
ai6908 said:
Seriously! You must be joking right?
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Exactly what i was thinking especially as all info needed on first page of threadz to be honest would be better if people didn't get answered who are far too lazy to read and then impolite in the same thread. "that's how i read it anyway"
I know things will never change just airing my point of view.
Please peeps find the answers, post new threads when you have run out of possibilitys & feel that sense of achievement when you have worked out your own issue
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Seriously! You must be joking right?
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No I'm not. Maybe I am going blind but all I see is your link to the AT&T stripped rom but I'm looking for HTC - as I said I've got a UK Orange TytnII which from what I've read says it should be flashed with HTC stock. Or maybe you are saying it doesn't matter which stock rom? And there is definitely no mention of stripped rom on TCP's page - I know that by heart now lol.
Anyway I have 2 now so I will have a go next time. Thanks again.
stylez said:
Exactly what i was thinking especially as all info needed on first page of threadz to be honest would be better if people didn't get answered who are far too lazy to read and then impolite in the same thread. "that's how i read it anyway"
I know things will never change just airing my point of view.
Please peeps find the answers, post new threads when you have run out of possibilitys & feel that sense of achievement when you have worked out your own issue
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How dare you jump in here with that attack. I really object to this. Where have I been impolite? Have you read my OP?
For the record I not only read the instructions. I devour them! Then I learnt them parrot fashion before I began. I have been a lurker round here for years but only started flashing last week. And for the last several weeks I have been trawling through literally thousands of posts to be sure of getting it right.
Now please show me on those instruction pages where it tells you how you can find a stock HTC ROM without radio that can be flashed from an SD card!
ai6908 kindly referred me to his page where there is only a link to a stripped AT&T stock rom and to TCP's page where there is no mention either. I was also asking if it was necessary to reflash the same radio every time as none of the instructions mention if you have the radio you need already. Still not had an answer on this so maybe it's just a stupid question - just wish I knew the answer lol.
Thankfully more helpful souls than you have provided me with the file I need. Thanks again F1ip and Pisca.
Some of you people on here can be arrogant so and so's. I belong to many forums and have never come across anything like it. Look at all the space you wasted flaming me and now me having to defend myself! No wonder the kids on here post the way they do if this is the example they get set by senior members. I would wager well over half the posts on this forum are pointless flaming. And just ask yourself how many questions are really new and have not already been answered by someone somewhere here. And look how much space would have been saved if you hadn't butted in here on your high horse without reading my question properly .
Rant over.
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No I'm not. Maybe I am going blind but all I see is your link to the AT&T stripped rom but I'm looking for HTC - as I said I've got a UK Orange TytnII which from what I've read says it should be flashed with HTC stock. Or maybe you are saying it doesn't matter which stock rom? And there is definitely no mention of stripped rom on TCP's page - I know that by heart now lol.
Anyway I have 2 now so I will have a go next time. Thanks again.
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Stock ROM is the same, it doesnt matter much for it being HTC or AT&T. Base ROM is the same on both of them.
Actually in my opinion, you dont even need to flash to stock ROM. I never flash stock ROM when I flash, and I flash about 10 times a day sometimes.
Sometimes occational hard reset might help. So in my opinion, just flash to any ROM, and do a hard reset after flash and when it prompts for screen alignment. That should solve all your flash issues.
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Stock ROM is the same, it doesnt matter much for it being HTC or AT&T. Base ROM is the same on both of them.
Actually in my opinion, you dont even need to flash to stock ROM. I never flash stock ROM when I flash, and I flash about 10 times a day sometimes.
Sometimes occational hard reset might help. So in my opinion, just flash to any ROM, and do a hard reset after flash and when it prompts for screen alignment. That should solve all your flash issues.
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Interesting, thanks. Certainly would save time not having to go through the whole rigmarole every time. That's one of the main reasons I was asking about the cut-down roms. As least I wouldn't have to keep doing the radio as well. Now whether with my lack of experience I should be going against what the 6.5 chefs seem to all be advising ....... .
On the other hand I may never flash again since TCP's latest seems to tick all my boxes. But having summoned up the courage to get going in the first place and it opens up a whole new lease of life for your phone, you kinda get a bit hooked. So maybe when I find one where MotoHome runs fast and smooth on my old Kaiser ........
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How dare you jump in here with that attack. I really object to this. Where have I been impolite? Have you read my OP?
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Basically if you read your last post before mine sounds like you are saying you cannot find anything in the threadz you describe.... bada bing bada bong no need to get so deffensive ah and .exe's can be uncompressed so as to get the .nbh for future reference....
Sorry for my response maybe i'm just gettin fed up with where is? questions when it can be found easily i'm sure that if you had of PM'd anyone they would have provided the answer.
My non rant over "so not everything is dirrected @ single poster" my applogies.
Just glad you sorted and found the answer
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Basically if you read your last post before mine sounds like you are saying you cannot find anything in the threadz you describe.... bada bing bada bong no need to get so deffensive ah and .exe's can be uncompressed so as to get the .nbh for future reference....
Sorry for my response maybe i'm just gettin fed up with where is? questions when it can be found easily i'm sure that if you had of PM'd anyone they would have provided the answer.
My non rant over "so not everything is dirrected @ single poster" my applogies.
Just glad you sorted and found the answer
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Apologies accepted . As you might be abe able to tell, the flaming that goes on verywhere around here really gets to me and you certainly hit a nerve. I sometimes wonder if I've wandered onto some Fight Club site by mistake lol .
Yes I do know the exe files can be uncompressed but the radio is still in the nbh file - and one guy who tried using the nbz file on its own said it flashed the radio part ok but not the rom itself .
What I will do is delve a little more into what makes up the unzipped nbh file. Might be a good way to start getting into this kitchen stuff .