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Radio Rom 02.20.21

Hi, im having major instability problems with radio rom 02.30.21. While I can just re-install my original jamin rom i would like to stay with the AKU2.3 im running but use the older radio version.
Any anyone extract this file and provide me with a copy. Ive looked into how to do this myself but its a little beyond me.
Thanks

Same here
dannyoneill said:
Hi, im having major instability problems with radio rom 02.30.21. While I can just re-install my original jamin rom i would like to stay with the AKU2.3 im running but use the older radio version.
Any anyone extract this file and provide me with a copy. Ive looked into how to do this myself but its a little beyond me.
Thanks
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Since installing 02.30.21, I have had completely random times where I cannot be reached. My phone will not ring during a call, and I often don't even get a message indicator like I did before, even if the caller left a message.
I am running the Official Jamin ROM, the only thing I've updated is the radio ROM. Would love to downgrade again if someone makes the old ROM available...
Alan

Look on the FTP server
/Prophet/Prophet-roms/RadioRom/

How to Upgrade Radio Rom on G4?

I've had a G3, but i am trying to help my cousin set hers up. I need to actually "downgrade" her radio rom because anything 2.25 and above doesnt allow to her text message (it keeps saying wait 15 seconds before trying again)
Do I need to use the shell tool to do a radio upgrade/downgrade, or do i simply just run the radio rom installer file?
Thanks in advance, i don't want to break my cousin's G4. Thank god i have a G3

I found that I could only run the 2.19 radio install after re-installing a fresh Cingular HTC ROM, install the radio by simply running the included installer "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" that came with the T-Mobile one located in the forum, then re-install the WM6 image. Otherwise I got an invalid version error. For the most part, running the radio update won't mess up the base image, so there's little risk.
-Matt

i'm using radio version 2.61 on my G4, this works perfect.....

Pieter____ said:
i'm using radio version 2.61 on my G4, this works perfect.....
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Thats because you aren't on Cingular (not sure if the OP is running Cingular but my guess is they are based on the description of the problem). Its well documented that WM6 ROMS on the Cingular network have issues with any rom with a higher version that 2.19.
So back to the original question... Yes as stated above, you can just flash it with the RUU Noid that comes with the radio only rom. Since its Radio Only, it will flash fine on a G4 and not brick the device.

Strange thing happened to Dutty's TouchFlo ROM, help!

I downloaded 3 ROM's for my AT&T Tilt.
1. First I flash with Dutty's TochFlo, play it for a day, things seemed fine except couldn't get the voice dial going.
Playing with it more, SMS only display title but not contents. frustrated.
2. Flash with DopodAsia WWE, found it has less features.
3. Flashed with AT&T newest ROM, it worked fine but Dutty's still has better features.
4. Back to Dutty's ROM, but this time, no sound.
5. Flashed with AT&T ROM, sound comes back.
6. Back to Dutty's ROM, no sound again, it can vibrate but no sound.

It's the new ATT rom
Yep, been there, got the tee shirt. Simply download the original ATT flash it, then put whatever rom you want on the Tilt, no problem. As discussed in the upgraded ATT rom thread, that rom has a a problem souind and it carries over to most other roms.
Good luck.

jychan28 said:
I downloaded 3 ROM's for my AT&T Tilt.
1. First I flash with Dutty's TochFlo, play it for a day, things seemed fine except could get the voice dial going.
Playing with it more, SMS only display title but not contents. frustrated.
2. Flash with DopodAsia WWE, found it has less features.
3. Flashed with AT&T newest ROM, it worked fine but Dutty's still has better features.
4. Back to Dutty's ROM, but this time, no sound.
5. Flashed with AT&T ROM, sound comes back.
6. Back to Dutty's ROM, no sound again, it can vibrate but no sound.
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Which Radio version do you have? If you have 1.27.14.09 you must change to 1.27.12.17. Then sounds will come back.

is this only a problem for the at&t ? Or for the normal kaiser too?

Flash your phone with Original Rom which you can find on this forum. I had same problem and after I flashed my Kaiser with original rom the problem was gone. Good luck

yup same here, i flashed the XDA Live ROM, which apparently got the latest radio rom, but when swoop back to Helmi ROM, all sounds mute, except for the vibration. flashed back with HTC shipped ROM, and everything is good now

Radio
The issues is that it seems the 1.27.14.09 radio is some how tied to the ROM. So if you were on the XDA Live or the latest ATT rom that upgraded your radio, that is the sound issue. As others have already said downgrade to 1.27.12.17 and your sound issues will be resolved.

jychan28 said:
I downloaded 3 ROM's for my AT&T Tilt.
1. First I flash with Dutty's TochFlo, play it for a day, things seemed fine except could get the voice dial going.
Playing with it more, SMS only display title but not contents. frustrated.
2. Flash with DopodAsia WWE, found it has less features.
3. Flashed with AT&T newest ROM, it worked fine but Dutty's still has better features.
4. Back to Dutty's ROM, but this time, no sound.
5. Flashed with AT&T ROM, sound comes back.
6. Back to Dutty's ROM, no sound again, it can vibrate but no sound.
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The sound problem is caused by the AT&T ROM. I changes the radio to a higher version that causes problems with some ROMs found here. The way I fixed mine was fine the shipping HTC ROM, flash that. Then flash whatever ROM you want, works perfect after that.

You don't have to flash the whole ROM. Just flash 1.27.12.17 Radio and you should be good to go.

sherpa said:
You don't have to flash the whole ROM. Just flash 1.27.12.17 Radio and you should be good to go.
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Thank you for you all!
Is the Radio part can be download somewhere in this forum?
I couldn't find it. Would someone send me a link please?
Thanks!

jychan28 said:
Thank you for you all!
Is the Radio part can be download somewhere in this forum?
I couldn't find it. Would someone send me a link please?
Thanks!
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You really need to read the wiki and search, buddy! Here's a link to the wiki. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser Find the section titled FTP Downloads and you can find the Radio downloads there.

No sound
Mine did the same! Went back to the Stock Rom.

sherpa said:
You really need to read the wiki and search, buddy! Here's a link to the wiki. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser Find the section titled FTP Downloads and you can find the Radio downloads there.
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Yep, thank you! I downloaded everything that I needed. But now I have too much to chew on.
It seems AT&T Tilt (HTC 8900) is different from Kaiser HTC (stand to be corrected).
Hardware-wise, it miss an extra camera lens in front which the HTC model has.
Software-wise, it does not have the Home plugin to display the large clock.
I am tempted to flash the HTC ROM and check it out now I got the Radio versions

Devs: Radio ROM Advice Required

Because I am pissed off with the newer radio ROMS...
I have a few questions about getting the old 1.58 Niki Radio ROM working on the latest WM 6.1 Official ROMS.
As you know, using this Radio ROM on the newer WM6.1 causes issues with the phone's camera and sound.
I am going to do some research into this, but I first would like to know if the following is possible?
1) If I replaced all the *gps*.* system files on the newer WM6.1 ROM with the ones from the older WM6.1 ROM, would it be possible to run the 1.58 Niki Radio without problems?
I don't think it would be this simple...So
2) What tools are available for the WM OS that allow me to monitor memory address access by the processor. Also, where can I find a good ARM disassembler?
I will use these tools to try and make my own custom radio ROM.
If anyone here has advice about where to start with this, then please post.
Thank you.

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Because I am pissed off with the newer radio ROMS...
I have a few questions about getting the old 1.58 Niki Radio ROM working on the latest WM 6.1 Official ROMS.
As you know, using this Radio ROM on the newer WM6.1 causes issues with the phone's camera and sound.
I am going to do some research into this, but I first would like to know if the following is possible?
1) If I replaced all the *gps*.* system files on the newer WM6.1 ROM with the ones from the older WM6.1 ROM, would it be possible to run the 1.58 Niki Radio without problems?
I don't think it would be this simple...So
2) What tools are available for the WM OS that allow me to monitor memory address access by the processor. Also, where can I find a good ARM disassembler?
I will use these tools to try and make my own custom radio ROM.
If anyone here has advice about where to start with this, then please post.
Thank you.
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I would start by contacting Viperbjk, cmonex, JockyW2001 and the likes. However, that being said, I would think they would have done it already if it were possible. Anyways, it would be nice if someone could achieve this.

Thanks for that P1Tater...
I've just discovered that IDA is the decompiller of choice for ARM processors, so I am going to download the demo for that to start with.
My simplistic theory is to decompile the 1.58 ROM and check for code that addresses memory reserved for the GPS, camera and sound hardware.
Then using this code, integrate it into the latest radio ROM to make a hybrid.
The unknowns (to me) right now are...
1) When I extract the Radio ROM from my phone as a raw file, is this actually machine code or is this data encrypted in some way?
2) Are the problems caused by running older radios on newer WM ROMs actually to do with updated device drivers interaction with the radio ROM, the radio ROM itself, or both?
It's been years since I've done disassembling, but this is just for fun

unfortunately I don't have any smart advice to give you, but I would really like to see this looked into

Maybe you can use the 1.58.25.17 Neon radio as a source of comparison. This radio is compatible with the newest HTC builds, and I have no issues with GPS.

NotATreoFan said:
Maybe you can use the 1.58.25.17 Neon radio as a source of comparison. This radio is compatible with the newest HTC builds, and I have no issues with GPS.
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Thanks for that...I must admit that I am mainly looking to get a radio working that gives good GPS performance here in the UK which the Niki 1.58 was very good at doing.
The problem is that all these Radios which work great in other parts of the world, are pretty crap here in the UK.
I may test the ROM you mention, but for UK users at least, the Niki 1.58 seems to be the benchmark so far.
Cheers.

replace the GPS drivers with older WM6 drivers, i did that in all my lastest roms and it fixed the intermittent GPS issue of it not getting a lock fast. with the older drivers i get a lock in 20 seconds with the new WM6.1 drivers iit takes up to 15 minutes before. also this was talked about before there is a whole thread on dumping and rebuilding radios.

austinsnyc said:
also this was talked about before there is a whole thread on dumping and rebuilding radios.
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i suppose you wouldn't have a link to said thread?

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austinsnyc said:
replace the GPS drivers with older WM6 drivers, i did that in all my lastest roms and it fixed the intermittent GPS issue of it not getting a lock fast. with the older drivers i get a lock in 20 seconds with the new WM6.1 drivers iit takes up to 15 minutes before. also this was talked about before there is a whole thread on dumping and rebuilding radios.
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I'd like to try it.
Can you share your kitchen files for those? or just the driver files from WM6?
I would really appreciate that.

austinsnyc said:
replace the GPS drivers with older WM6 drivers, i did that in all my lastest roms and it fixed the intermittent GPS issue of it not getting a lock fast. with the older drivers i get a lock in 20 seconds with the new WM6.1 drivers iit takes up to 15 minutes before. also this was talked about before there is a whole thread on dumping and rebuilding radios.
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What drivers are you talking about?
The gps dlls in the system directory?
I know how to dump a radio from the phone that's why I can hack a radio in the first place. I also know how to rebuild it back into an nbh for reflashing...This isn't what I'm looking for info on.
If you've got any info, please point it out. It will be appreciated.

Strange problems

I've flashed several ROM's to my x7510, starting with Cmonex's 1st WWE ROM, followed by a few versions of Xacsx's ROM's, always going back to Cmonex's every so often.
After having installed one of Xacsx's ROM's, the keyboard layout changed from QWERTY to QWERTZ and I had to do a reg edit to correct it. I learnt from somebody here that QWERTZ is a german keyboard layout, which fits seeing Xacsx is german.
Now here's the strange thing - after having flashed a previous ROM with QWERTY layout, I still had the QWERTZ layout. The setting had somehow "survived" the flashing?
And it gets better. After having flashed Xstep's ROM, the phone on my device remained turned off and nothing I could do would turn it on. That is a MAJOR crisis for me! I flashed Cmonex's ROM again, to see if I could recover from that and hoping it was simply an error with the ROM.
Xstep's ROM has RealVGA built in and the default setting is 92 dpi.
After flashing Cmonex's ROM my device was running at 92 dpi, even though RealVGA is not installed! I had to install it just to change the settings back to 192 dpi.
And still the phone doesn't turn on!
Update:
The problems I experienced were down to two things:
1) I had flashed two ROMs that each contained their own extended ROM's in succession
2) Somehow I had messed up the radio on my x7510
THE SOLUTION:
1) Flash the extended ROM supplied by Cmonex, together with the matching ROM
1. customruu for x7510, grab it from attachment. use this to flash roms.
2. nbh building tool for x7510, in another attachment. just choose X7510 from device list to work with it.
3. some stock OS links (some taken from RUU some from dumped / reconstructed roms)
WWE (english) 19209: http://rapidshare.com/files/16043971...forATHE400.zip
WWE (english) 19217: http://rapidshare.com/files/16043113...forATHE400.zip
GER (german) 19217: http://www.filedropper.com/x7510gerruusignedforathe400
CHT (taiwan chinese) 19209: http://rapidshare.com/files/15981958...forATHE400.rar and a mirror http://www.megaupload.com/?d=30L24D8W
NEW: WWE (english) 3.29.707 rom: http://rapidshare.com/files/16967590...RUU_Signed.zip
+ extrom for 3.29.707: http://rapidshare.com/files/17304340...707_extrom.zip
make a mirror for others too please if you can =)
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2) Flash the x7510 radio supplied by Xtep
I have repacked the radio for a x7510. You can download it from: http://rapidshare.com/files/191672003/x7510_Radio_1.58.rar
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I have axcsx's WWE ROM loaded on my x7510 which I loaded after loading cmonex's 3.29 rom. To be honest I did not know that a QWERTZ keyboard existed, however, all of the keys on my keyboard keys appear to work exactly as one would expect - QWERTY fashion without any required registry fix.
I did download xtep's rom but I'm now not likely to load after your experience. I wish I had more technical knowledge to suggest a fix. cmonex posted after a long absence yesterday. Perhaps it worth a pm?
Still wonder why you had a keyboard issue and I don't?

I actually flashed ALL of Xacsx's ROM's at one stage or the other. I believe the problem started after I flashed version2 of his WWE ROM.

Time for an update:
The QWERTZ instead of QWERTY issue I believe was down to one of Xacsx's ROM's having over-written the extended ROM (he warned that it would).
I've downloaded Cmonex's HardSPL, WWE ROM and matching extended ROM, then flashed 1st the HardSPL, then the extended ROM and finally the WWE ROM.
As a result, I no longer get the 96 dpi upon startup, and the keyboard reverted back to QWERTY.
At least that's progress.
But, the phone still simply won't turn on and I get an error message about Device.exe
I'm hoping this isn't due to hardware failure and that there is a software fix for it, but time will tell.

NanoRuler said:
But, the phone still simply won't turn on and I get an error message about Device.exe
I'm hoping this isn't due to hardware failure and that there is a software fix for it, but time will tell.
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It does not sound like a hardware problem. Have you tried searching at the Windows folder if you do have the Device.exe file? It might just be because of a missing file. I don't know the contents of the Ext ROM, but could this file be in there too. Maybe when you upgraded your Ext ROM, this file was not included. So everytime you perform a hard reset, since it is missing from the Ext ROM, it does not install to your device.
If the file is present in the Windows folder, maybe the registry is pointing to a wrong file.

Had a look and there is no DEVICE.EXE in Windows

your problems with the keyboard layout or 96DPI are dued to ExtROM. In the ExtROM of my ROMs I have added a configuration file to switch to 96 DPI, you have said before that Xacsx said something similar about QWERTZ layout.
The real problem is that Cmonex's ROM does not include ExtROM, so although you revert to his ROM, you still have the previous extROM (from Xacsx or mine). You also need to flash the official ExtROM released by Cmonex.
About the phone problem, I cannot help you. I haven't experimented that isue on my own x7510 (tested both WWE and ESN roms). Anyway, if is a ROM problem, it sould be solved by flahsing another ROM.
Device.exe is in XIP part of the ROM.

Yes, I've already re-flashed Cmonex's extended ROM, thanks Xtep.
To be honest I don't believe your ROM is to blame. I have reflashed Cmonex's extended ROM, then her matching WWE ROM, in that order and still I get the DEVICE.EXE error and still the phone won't switch on.
That pretty much tells me it isn't ROM related.
I've attached the log file (renamed to .TXT) to this post - any help is gratefully received!

It may be worth flashing the full HTC ROM, which incliudes ROM, ExtROM and Radio; once up and running again, you could then reflash your cooked ROM of choice.
Factory ROMsdo tend to fix some of these odd problems.

Hi Neil,
I was under the impression that's pretty much what Cmonex's plain vanilla WWE ROM + matching extended ROM was, which is why I flashed it.
Only thing I haven't done yet is reverting back to the stock SPL.

NanoRuler said:
Hi Neil,
I was under the impression that's pretty much what Cmonex's plain vanilla WWE ROM + matching extended ROM was, which is why I flashed it.
Only thing I haven't done yet is reverting back to the stock SPL.
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I sugest you to flash a Radio again (I thin that version 1.58 in this thread is from x7510).
You problem is when you activate the phone and that is managed by radio.

Thanks Xtep - I think you're on the right track with your suggestion, but that radio won't flash to my x7510. It keeps failing with unsupported device error message.
Any ideas where I can get hold of a stock radio?

NanoRuler said:
Thanks Xtep - I think you're on the right track with your suggestion, but that radio won't flash to my x7510. It keeps failing with unsupported device error message.
Any ideas where I can get hold of a stock radio?
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That is because this file is for Athena x7500.
I have repacked the radio for a x7510. You can download it from: http://rapidshare.com/files/191672003/x7510_Radio_1.58.rar

You are indeed a scholar and a true gentleman!

Xtep, I've got phone functionality back! Thanks a stack!!!
And right now I'm re-flashing your ROM!

Did that work NR?
If not, can you PM me- I may have a suggestion, but can't post in an open forum