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Multiple Today screens for non-touch screen devices?

How can I set up multiple today screens on my blackjack II (WM6)? Looks like wisbar advance desktop would accomplish this, but will it work on a non-touch screen device? I'll try it when I get home later and see. What I want to do is have multiple pages of completely different plugin sets, ie Home, something like HTC Action, Settings, and then be able to switch them by using the volume rocker (up/down). If you could imagine something similar to the HTC cube, only scrolling vertically (with the rocker) that's what I'm going after. I think this would work nicely for us non-touch screen users, i'm beginning to get envious of all the great options out there for touch. Any ideas are greatly appreciated, maybe I'll post a photoshop visual later of what I'm going after.

seems wisbar is pocket pc only at the moment, although it doesn't state this specifically on the downloads page. But i couldn't get through the install on my phone. The forums suggest smartphone apps are in developement but I couldn't find anything. SK Today Commander looks like another option and it installed...however I was unable to select any of the profile options it has, must be just incompatible with my phone or something...
any ideas? Any programmers could make a program that could render the today screen for a few different xml's and allow you to switch between them?

mortscript....looks like it will confuse the hell out of me, but I'm looking into it.

bvone21 said:
seems wisbar is pocket pc only at the moment, although it doesn't state this specifically on the downloads page. But i couldn't get through the install on my phone. The forums suggest smartphone apps are in developement but I couldn't find anything. SK Today Commander looks like another option and it installed...however I was unable to select any of the profile options it has, must be just incompatible with my phone or something...
any ideas? Any programmers could make a program that could render the today screen for a few different xml's and allow you to switch between them?
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sbsh wisbar is for wm6 pro devices with touch screens. sbsh facade is for wm6 standard devices with no touch screen. facade allows the use of multiple screens. check out the sbsh facade forums for some pretty cool multi screen skins.

bvone21 said:
How can I set up multiple today screens on my blackjack II (WM6)? Looks like wisbar advance desktop would accomplish this, but will it work on a non-touch screen device? I'll try it when I get home later and see. What I want to do is have multiple pages of completely different plugin sets, ie Home, something like HTC Action, Settings, and then be able to switch them by using the volume rocker (up/down). If you could imagine something similar to the HTC cube, only scrolling vertically (with the rocker) that's what I'm going after. I think this would work nicely for us non-touch screen users, i'm beginning to get envious of all the great options out there for touch. Any ideas are greatly appreciated, maybe I'll post a photoshop visual later of what I'm going after.
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It is not difficult to create multi-page homescreens, though some "rules" do apply. You can check out what we are doing over at the Facade forum for examples.
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showforum=57
The "rules":
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=14911&st=0&p=141894&#entry141894

Thanks for your replies guys, yeah it does look like facade is the way to go. Seems ekoflip on the SBSH forums has a few facade homescreens that "fake" the multiple page effect, I'll have to learn from that. I guess what I was really going for was a slick way to navigate them as well. In the facade multiple page themes, you don't really have more than one plugin on each "page", is that because you need the up/down keys to switch "pages" so you can't use them to go from plugin to plugin within the same "page" ? not as functional, or as "slick" as may be possible...
But I will definitely be looking into it, hopefully this weekend, thanks again.

Several Mod Questions

First of all Thank everyone that uses this site because it has helped me do alot with my Sprint HTC Touch Pro. I love this place.
My first question is if I have done everything I should as far as increasing the speed and preformance. I've done the audio boost and the battery and speed cabs. I'm using the defualt Sprint ROM, afraid to change it lol.
Next, Is there a way to change in the settings or registry the "backlight" I suppose. Where it will still show up or something when the phone is idle, it seems like I have to slide it open to get the screen to brighten up again.
Third, I have added the Calender, Call History, Sounds, and Communications tabs through roscoe explorer editing the 26xxxx_manilla file. Any ideas on adding AIM to these tabs?
Lastly, Can anyone point me in the right direction on making icons? I make icons for the pc aswell as program in C++ with adobe knowledge. I just dont know where they are on the tf3d.
Thanks everyone for all the support. I will help anyone as much as I can.
Oh yea, btw My wifi works fine but my sprint data doesnt work. without wifi i cant browse the net, watch tv, or navigate. any ideas?

lJesterl said:
First of all Thank everyone that uses this site because it has helped me do alot with my Sprint HTC Touch Pro. I love this place.
My first question is if I have done everything I should as far as increasing the speed and preformance. I've done the audio boost and the battery and speed cabs. I'm using the defualt Sprint ROM, afraid to change it lol.
Next, Is there a way to change in the settings or registry the "backlight" I suppose. Where it will still show up or something when the phone is idle, it seems like I have to slide it open to get the screen to brighten up again.
Third, I have added the Calender, Call History, Sounds, and Communications tabs through roscoe explorer editing the 26xxxx_manilla file. Any ideas on adding AIM to these tabs?
Lastly, Can anyone point me in the right direction on making icons? I make icons for the pc aswell as program in C++ with adobe knowledge. I just dont know where they are on the tf3d.
Thanks everyone for all the support. I will help anyone as much as I can.
Oh yea, btw My wifi works fine but my sprint data doesnt work. without wifi i cant browse the net, watch tv, or navigate. any ideas?
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The tab icons and graphics can be extracted using TF3D editor (look in the diamond software section) Adding an AIM tab is a bit of an unknown so until there is a SDK for manilla which can be used to add arbitrary code into a tab im not sure what could be done).
I would also check with your provider to see what settings are needed to get data through your connection as they might not be set correctly.
So far im not aware of any CDMA specific ROMs so you are best off to wait until there are some designed for use on the Herman (CDMA Raphael) you will find them in the CDMA section when they are released.

Thanks
Thank you very much

if u wanna light up the backlight when the phone is idle, just touch the centre of the dpad, as it is capacitive and it will light up the backlight again! Cheers!

[REQ] top-down, down-top sliding app

I am still using UltimateLaunch even with all these new UI's out there for the customization abilities and small footprint (only have 64mb on the i760). I am looking for someone to develop an application that I can launch using the gestures feature of UL. The application(s) would slide in from the top or bottom to reveal a quicklauncher, task manager, etc. This would be similar to Android. If anyone could develop this or if there is one out there that I am missing, please let me know.

erm have you tried FtouchSL ?
it 's just what you need

I've been thinking of doing something like this for a while with icon based panes.

ather90 said:
erm have you tried FtouchSL ?
it 's just what you need
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Hey ather,
I don't think that is what he is talking about. Keep in mind that UL does have gesture support, so it isn't about the gesture itself, but rather a program (possibly with a nice transition animation) that can attach to UL as some sort of an addon (like he said, think of the Android launcher menu).
@joshrys
what you could do is to install Slither's cube. It can be easily installed and has a very smooth transition effect. Just associate the Up-Down/Down-Up with UL and you should end up with a nice interface. Just my two cents...

ah sorry my bad, didnt read the whole thing properly, he wanted to use the UL's gestures

Thanks for the suggestions, i currently have IE set to launch with a down swipe and the comm manager with the up swipe, I am just looking for an app that will slide down and up with the swipes for launching things. FTouch is a great program, i have used the trial before, but not necesarrily what I'm looking for. UL is great, the up/down is just about the only thing I think it's lacking. it goes left/right, why not up/down?

Have you tried MortButtons? You can configure it to do what you want and it has a task manager and it's skinnable.

joshrys said:
Thanks for the suggestions, i currently have IE set to launch with a down swipe and the comm manager with the up swipe, I am just looking for an app that will slide down and up with the swipes for launching things. FTouch is a great program, i have used the trial before, but not necesarrily what I'm looking for. UL is great, the up/down is just about the only thing I think it's lacking. it goes left/right, why not up/down?
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Let me see if I understood correctly... you are basically asking for UL to behave like a cube (not the Touch cube, but an actual six-sided cube [maybe even more sides]). I have waited for something like that for the longest time. The Touch cube (Slither's, Byka, etc) has been the closest thing I have seen to my "dream". However, just like UL, there is no Up-Down/Down-Up swipe launchers.
It would be nice to have something like that without having to install multiple apps to get the wanted effect(s).
I guess if the programmer of UL can release his code, it might be easy to modify in such a way as to adapt the missing swipe functions....
Is there anyone that is willing to give this a shot? (I cannot program if my life depended on it )

Tweaks Issues

I have a VZW Touch Pro. I have tried Pocket Toolman 2, Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3, Diamond Tweak, and maybe one more to make configuration changes. However, each one of these causes a problem for me.
When I pull out the keyboard and then try to fill in a form field in PIE, the cursor moves when I type, but I cannot see the letters in the field. Also, if I have the keyboard open and I go to favorites (particularly Edit Favorites), instead of seeing my favorites, I see chinese looking characters instead of the name of the favorite.
I have tried hard resets and just installing net 3.5, then one of the above programs. Even if I leave the input and IE settings in these apps alone, it causes this to happen.
I would like to use the tweaks in at least one of these programs. However, I need to know if there is something that I can chose not to set in one of these programs, or a registry key that I can edit after configuring one of these programs, to get the functionality back.
Any help is appreciated, as I am at a loss at this point.

You have enabled cleartype in landscape mode. Disable it again

Thank you for your help.

Start Menu - 4/5 Items Wide

Update 27/11/2009:
I have now made a multi-device version here. It adds landscape support and the text is slightly larger to accommodate devices with smaller screens which I think looks better on the hd2 too.
Old version:
Hi All,
I wasnt very impressed with other 4-wide and 5-wide options, so I just modified the .cpr from my hd2 myself.
This doesnt touch the registry, so wont be much use for non-stock ROMs and other devices unless you edit it yourself:
HKLM\Security\Shell\StartMenu\CustomGridForm = "StartMenuCust"
You will need to soft reset after installing.
Enjoy!

Could you please post some screenshots?

No problem, screenshots added to post 1.

My CustomGridForm is already =StartMenuCust. Should your cabs work on my case (original rom)?
Other question: Did you get your start menu to work on landscape? I've seen some threads about this but I would like to know where to change this on the reg myself. Some apps might have unstable behavior when adding apps to the white list.
Thanks!

If you are already StartMenuCust it should work - I think its only when custom roms start coming out that will change.
I should have mentioned - This is just for portrait. You could change the landscape yourself as it is fairly trivial. Look in \Windows for:
StartMenuCust_480x800.cpr = Portrait
StartMenuCust_800x480.cpr = Landscape
Edit these in notepad (it is just xml). You have to change the row count to 4 and change the relative size of the images, text etc.

Just tried this out .... very effective thanks!!
just a little point, after the install, the black screen offers a Restart button or cancel; on my stock HD2 neither worked, it had frozen. A soft reset got it going again, with a 5-column display

any chance of gettin them in a straght line instead of honeycomb?>

Editing seems to be simple enough. The problem is that my start menu doesn't rotate automatically. I could use gyrator to make it work but I would prefer to use the whitelist or any other reg edit. I avoid using programs that have to be running in the background or tweak my Leo for me, as much as possible. If I reg edit and it doesn't work, I know what I did and can always change it back.
Any idea on how to do this?
Thanks!

pdgpereira:
This thread seems to cover the reg changes you need to make. I havent tried it though!
vinokirk:
Not a clue, sorry!
Armes:
I dont know why it crashed for you. It asks you to restart itself (presumably because it changed a system file) so its installers fault!

Thanks for the link. I had been there but with no previous success. I finally did it. I isolated the reg tweaks made by gsen cab, I think, and added some others. A soup of reg tweaks... The problem with cabs is that you never know what exactly they do. I'll be doing some reg cleaning in the next hour.
Now I will try out these 4/5 columns in landscape.
Thanks guys!

Cab for QVGA
Can you please release a QVGA version?

vinokirk said:
any chance of gettin them in a straght line instead of honeycomb?>
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I was also wondering this... Maybe setting HexagonGrid="FALSE" in the .cpr files does the trick? Will try it out and let you know.

vdws: I wouldnt recommend touching the HexagonGrid option. Im not really sure what it is for, but if you set it FALSE your start menu wont work anymore. Well, it will, but after a long pause while it changes back to the default WM6.5 grid. You would then need to change the registry value mentioned in post 1.

plvigo said:
Can you please release a QVGA version?
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I am happy to convert mine to qvga - and tried but its quite hard to judge in the emulator what it looks like. I dont have a qvga device and I cant seem to use the htc fonts in the emulator.
Have you seen:
[Tweak - QVGA] [3-Sept] | 4/5 Portrait | 4/5/6/7 Landscape | Start Menu 6.5
by chris10234?
That looks like it will suit your needs fine. Let me know if you really want my version but i would need you to test it a few times for me!

Looks amazing cant believe i spent the last 4 days without this tweak thanks for doing it before i had to as it was my plan!
Just wish that landscape would auto-rotate on it...

isangelous said:
I am happy to convert mine to qvga - and tried but its quite hard to judge in the emulator what it looks like. I dont have a qvga device and I cant seem to use the htc fonts in the emulator.
Have you seen:
[Tweak - QVGA] [3-Sept] | 4/5 Portrait | 4/5/6/7 Landscape | Start Menu 6.5
by chris10234?
That looks like it will suit your needs fine. Let me know if you really want my version but i would need you to test it a few times for me!
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Thank you very much for you kind help!

If I want to change it back to original setting, is it just simply uninstall it ?
-----Note------ I had tried it, eveythings back to original by simply uninstall the cab file. Now I am using the 5 items wide, it looks smaller but more tidy than 4 items wide.
Very good and thanks.

Any chance you are going to make some landascape ones?
As i added auto-rotate with bsb-tweaks and now have 5 in portrait and landscape but landscape could much much better...
EDIT: Saw the other thread and if i go for the 5 cab there it will give me 9-wide in landscape, right?

adab: Thats right, uninstalling the .cab should restore the rom default.
chris10230: Yup, I have an updated one here which supports landscape too. For the HD2 WVGA thats 5 portrait and 9 landscape.

Cheers once again!