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To all with your new toy, the beautiful Raphael. Ive got a couple of battery related question. Does the battery run out quickly? how long would a full charge last you and what type of usage are we talking about. I know its still early days and testing hasnt really been done, but my touch pro battery uncertainty is the only thing holding me back from breaking the bank.
Cheers
I'm getting about 2 days out of mine with light usage and push email enabled during business hours.
The user interface is a bit of a learning curve - may need tweaking a bit once the chefs get cooking!!!
From experience, it takes several charge / discharge cycles before you get the max out of a battery, even with Li Ion, however not as bad as the old NICAD's !
I am charging it throughout business day (day 3 now) with the USB cable whilst connected using Active Sync. This seems a slower charge as you would expect and by the time I leave the office it is fully charged. I have only charged it once from AC power and that was when I first got it.
I will charge it from the AC again over the weekend without any intermittent USB charge and let you know next week how well the battery lasts!
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I am charging it throughout business day (day 3 now) with the USB cable whilst connected using Active Sync. This seems a slower charge as you would expect and by the time I leave the office it is fully charged. I have only charged it once from AC power and that was when I first got it.
I will charge it from the AC again over the weekend without any intermittent USB charge and let you know next week how well the battery lasts!
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USB charging will be slower - generally the max current from a USB hub is 500mA shared between each USB port. he mains power supply is rated at 1A.
Have you noticed the illuminated HTC log on the power supply?
ardsar said:
Have you noticed the illuminated HTC logo on the power supply?
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Yes how cool is that! First thing I checked, because when charging it from AC and phone not switched on, I couldn't tell whether it was charging and then noticed the White Logo! Then later noticed the dial on the phone swirling round as well!
Mine doesn't seem to be lasting very long, I only got it about this time yesterday. I fully charged it before I even switched it on, by about 11PM last night I was getting battery low warnings, Charged it overnight and I was getting battery low warnings by about 12:30 this afternoon again It's now having its third charge in 24 hours!!!
Maybe I'm just using the damn thing too much!
Has anyone had a problem with extremely slow charging? I would plug my phone in and wake up 6 hours later and the phone is still not charged. It's even worse now with the extended battery. 7 hours worth of charging and I'm only at 85%. I'm rooted and using the de-bloat rom without the kernel, but it was like this even before the root. Has anyone else encountered this strange issue. I have been using the stock HTC charger.
mine charges in a couple hours using the wall charger and wifi hotspot. In the car or via computer USB, it charges very slowly and if wifi hotspot is on, it loses charger over time.
I typically turn my phone off to charge; speeds things up 2-3 fold.
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loztboy said:
Has anyone had a problem with extremely slow charging? I would plug my phone in and wake up 6 hours later and the phone is still not charged. It's even worse now with the extended battery. 7 hours worth of charging and I'm only at 85%. I'm rooted and using the de-bloat rom without the kernel, but it was like this even before the root. Has anyone else encountered this strange issue. I have been using the stock HTC charger.
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Mine doesn't even take an hour . Power it off and try it that way and see how long it takes.
damn mine charges super fast compared to my nexus s i had
If you have plug to the computer it might take longer but not 6 hours, on the wall it only takes like an hour or two to be fully charge.
If it's an issue just take it back and get another one.
Yeah I might have to return this phone. Do you think it matters whether I use the cable that came with the phone, or a regular usb cable to charge.
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You need to look at the power ratings of the adapters you're using. This behemoth phone can receive 1000ma, while many car and home chargers (like Droid1) are only rated at 500ma. I'm still trying to figure out what the power draw is on the phone when just idling (battery monitor widget is hard to understand), but if the phone draws 250-500ma with regular usage, its going to lose charge plugged into USB (rated at 500ma per port) and running hotspot (drawing closer to 600ma). That's -100ma.
These numbers are guesstimates. I'm not sure if the cable itself can pose limitations, but would suspect that as long as there's no shorts in the wire, it would be able to handle any of the above currents.
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You need to look at the power ratings of the adapters you're using. This behemoth phone can receive 1000ma, while many car and home chargers (like Droid1) are only rated at 500ma. I'm still trying to figure out what the power draw is on the phone when just idling (battery monitor widget is hard to understand), but if the phone draws 250-500ma with regular usage, its going to lose charge plugged into USB (rated at 500ma per port) and running hotspot (drawing closer to 600ma). That's -100ma.
These numbers are guesstimates. I'm not sure if the cable itself can pose limitations, but would suspect that as long as there's no shorts in the wire, it would be able to handle any of the above currents.
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yeah i find it impossible to charge the thing on USB, and it takes forever plugged into the wall with the charger it came with.
Had an evo, and it would almost full charge (from the time it said to plug it in, so 15%) in about an hour and a half. The thunderbolt seems to take 3 hours ish for me. I know I can turn the phone off, but since it usually charges over night its not a big deal, I just think it is interesting that it is so different.
yeah I'm one of the folks who charges FAST. It has really surprised me...I actually thought everyone was charging super fast until this thread.
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You need to look at the power ratings of the adapters you're using. This behemoth phone can receive 1000ma, while many car and home chargers (like Droid1) are only rated at 500ma. I'm still trying to figure out what the power draw is on the phone when just idling (battery monitor widget is hard to understand), but if the phone draws 250-500ma with regular usage, its going to lose charge plugged into USB (rated at 500ma per port) and running hotspot (drawing closer to 600ma). That's -100ma.
These numbers are guesstimates. I'm not sure if the cable itself can pose limitations, but would suspect that as long as there's no shorts in the wire, it would be able to handle any of the above currents.
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+1 on looking at your adapter. Use the one that comes with the phone or make sure that it's rated at 1000mA/1A or more. I tried a MicroUSB adapter I had lying around that came with a bluetooth headset; turns out it only puts out 200mA, so the phone would take forever to charge on it.
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+1 on looking at your adapter. Use the one that comes with the phone or make sure that it's rated at 1000mA/1A or more. I tried a MicroUSB adapter I had lying around that came with a bluetooth headset; turns out it only puts out 200mA, so the phone would take forever to charge on it.
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with an output of 200mA I would be amazed if you could get this phone to charge at all, without having a custome kernel and underclocking the processor. If anything I would see it maybe staying same battery percentage.
Overall I feel this phone does charge really slow. It is way slow charging on a computer. I was charging it and just doing some light texting and after 4 hours the battery only went up by like 25%.
I have a second wall charger rated at 1000mAH, and after 30min it went up like 10%. This was with the phone off btw. With it on, but not in use, it went up like 4% over 30min. I'm kind of surprised how long it takes to charge. I've had no problems charging it at night. Plug it in before bed, and its full when I wake up. How does the 1400mAH battery size compare to other phones?
I did a little math too, the battery is a 5.18 W/hr battery. So with a 1AH charge at 5V, you'd expect the phone to charge in 2 hrs if only about 50% of the electricity is getting retained by the battery.
I've noticed that mine takes about 1hr 45ish mins to charge from completly dead. My Droid used to be an hour at the most.
i just checked on the adapter it came with, it's 200 mA...did people get better chargers than me or something? Mine takes forever to charge also...been stuck at 99% for 30 mins
EDIT: nvm, i was looking at input, not output...still isnt moving from 99% to 100% though
jbh00jh said:
Mine doesn't even take an hour . Power it off and try it that way and see how long it takes.
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WTF are u talking about 0-100% or like 70-100%?
lorijuan1024 said:
damn mine charges super fast compared to my nexus s i had
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@lorijuan1024 im with you man the Nexus S took forever...... To charge
its impossible for me to charge it through the computer, it went up 5% over 3 hours, wasnt on hotspot, sending texts.
Mine charges fine on anything, I am using my old fascinate charger.
Charging speed seems to fluctuate for me... sometimes I get lucky and its fast. Other times, not so much.
Hey all,
how much time it takes you to full charge it?
my battery was ~10% 7 hours ago, i went to sleep, and now its still charging ~95%
im using htc charger, and its connected to wall, and its just taking him to long.
tnx
not sure ...my charger seems to work fine..few hours but on usb need soooo loonnnggggggggg...i know its faster on charger but on usb is just too much..
My significant other has the same problem with her Sony ericsson charger (she has an X10 Arc), my charger on the other hand works perfectly.
If you have the possibility of trying another charger, you can find out where the fault is...
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My battery was charged from 23% to 100% in 2.5 hour with original wall charger.
That's way too long. Even from 0% shouldn't take you more than 2.5 hours.
Something is wrong with your wall charger.
fffuuuuuuuuuuu
i will try another one
I charge from ~20% to full in maybe 3 hours on USB.
Try charging from USB to see how long that takes.
I will take a few hours, maybe 4, to do a full charge from USB.
If it seems that it will take a good bit longer than that then it could be you cable.
i have another wall charger, and i will try from usb.
will take few days of testing
If you're using the HTC charger & cable plugged into a wall socket, you should be able to charge fully in about 2-3 hours, because the charger should pass 800-1000mA to the phone for much of the time, instead of the 500mA max from a PC USB socket.
It may be that the charger is (for some reason) not getting above 500mA: maybe it's the cable, or the phone is too hot or too cold.
Or perhaps the phone is running something quite hardware-intensive and soaking up half of the power that the charger is producing.
Have you tried running Battery Monitor Widget? It will give you an indication (a log too) of the input voltage and the power consumption over those seven hours.
For comparison, my Desire S runs at under 10mA when idle, and can charge from 25% in a couple of hours.
Might want to try charging when phone is off then.
ok, tried another charger, this one made 70% in less then 2 hours.
so the first one is ****ed, will recheck him maybe with usb-charging
Oh!!!
I always use the usb port on my laptop... So it is the reason...
Sometimes (no pattern) the note charges very very slowly: in 4 hours this morning, for example, has increased of only 15%.
You can tell cos the charger is not hot.
Is it a charger/cable/connector problem?
Do you see a little red "X" over the battery when this happens? i believe unless you use one of the Samsung chargers it won't charge at full speed but will still trickle charge slowly. I've also found that even with the Samsung charger when I used a really long USB cord I wasn't getting full speed charging, so a long or bad cord can be an issue.
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Do you see a little red "X" over the battery when this happens? i believe unless you use one of the Samsung chargers it won't charge at full speed but will still trickle charge slowly. I've also found that even with the Samsung charger when I used a really long USB cord I wasn't getting full speed charging, so a long or bad cord can be an issue.
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No red X, original cable and charger... To solve I have to unplug e replug couple of times
Same here
When I connect the Note 10.1 to my Computer or last time I tried to connect to car charger it gives a red cross. Why does this keep happening ??
My note 10.1 just started charging slowly noticeably.
I used an app called Galaxy Charging Current, and sure enough, the status shows that it is charging at 1amp, instead of the nominal 2amps.
This is on the original charger and cable.
I recommend everyone to check out the app called Galaxy Charging Current.
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When I connect the Note 10.1 to my Computer or last time I tried to connect to car charger it gives a red cross. Why does this keep happening ??
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The red X is difefrent: you cannot charge the note 10.1 with a usb cable or in car with a 1 Amp adaptor, it needs 2
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My GT-N8000 from original ICS 4.0.4 until now using XXCMI2 DBT Deodexed sometimes too long for charging ( charge always at power off mode ). sometimes 5-6 hours and it still not full 100%. It'll be full 100% if unplug and replug again and wait at least 1 or 2 hours. after long time experiment, My conclusion when charge at power off from 35% or below, It will be 5-6 hours charge and not full but charge at 60% power off mode charge it will be full 100% charged just 2-3 hours. that's very strange. at power on never got this problem, always 100% full.
All accessories, charger and cable data were original.
Any Opinion???
Thanks
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My GT-N8000 from original ICS 4.0.4 until now using XXCMI2 DBT Deodexed sometimes too long for charging ( charge always at power off mode ). sometimes 5-6 hours and it still not full 100%. It'll be full 100% if unplug and replug again and wait at least 1 or 2 hours. after long time experiment, My conclusion when charge at power off from 35% or below, It will be 5-6 hours charge and not full but charge at 60% power off mode charge it will be full 100% charged just 2-3 hours. that's very strange. at power on never got this problem, always 100% full.
All accessories, charger and cable data were original.
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could be the ROM you are using. Did this happen when you were stock? I know on my HTC one there were a few roms that I would have to plug the USB in three of four times just to get it to work correctly. Then I changed roms and BOOM works perfect again.
@Tiltmfc
For Me that happen on stock ROM too, coz when I purchase this N8000 at special price on 1st day launch in Indonesia, I must wait until root feature available at least 2-3 month and I always charge at OFF condition and almost rare at ON mode. at official ICS at OFF always like this, real real long to be fully charged when start charge at 30% and Don't know when reach 100% if I don't unplug the charger cable at least once.
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For Me that happen on stock ROM too, coz when I purchase this N8000 at special price on 1st day launch in Indonesia, I must wait until root feature available at least 2-3 month and I always charge at OFF condition and almost rare at ON mode. at official ICS at OFF always like this, real real long to be fully charged when start charge at 30% and Don't know when reach 100% if I don't unplug the charger cable at least once.
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I had the same problem previously. Solved by getting a new charger (whole set including the cable)! One hour charging = >15% increase
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Wow Cool, maybe charger problem. For Now I've never charge my N8000 below 60% at OFF Mode. always taking 3 hours charging time to 100%.
Thanks for sharing.
Yep I'd agree that it sounds like your charger or wire is on its way out. I had a similar issue with my S3, changed charger - problem fixed
Samsung 10.1 Note N8000 charging slow
I have one from early 2013. The issue is that during the charging process, sediments get deposited both on the plug and the socket. This over a period of time reduces the contact between male and female parts contributing to slow charging.
In a post, some one mentioned that his friends charger worked on his tablet and his charger did the job for his friend. Some one was able to fix the issue with a new charger. The fact is, any change that reduces the sedimentary issue thus enhancing contact will work better.
I took an obsolete tooth brush cleaned the plug and then held the phone's socket down while cleaning that as well. Vila, my charging speed has improved.
Samsung had a proprietary cable for 2013 and later they replaced it with micro USB in 2014. The sediment issue is not as pronounced as in other mobiles which use different cable type. In N8000, the current in DC o/p is also high at 2A which may be causing this problem.
Hi I just bought a used galaxy note 10.1
it did not come with a usb wall charger
after 7 hours of charging
a search said its my usb charger
I was wounding if it is normal for this to take over 24 hours from 0% battery on a charger like this
that only gives 0.5 A
or am I doing damage to my battery by leaving on charge for longer than 24 hours
its like a incredibly slow trickle charge
right now its almost full it claims but im not sure if it will ever be full at this rate
I thought maybe 24 hours but now its 1 hour past 24
I was trying to (calibrate the battery )
so I let it die to 0%
I turned the device on half way though charging
noticed it had an x though the batter so I freaked out and tryed plugging and unplugging it like 10 times
I was wounding how bad that might be for the memory of my battery to do something like that
because I unplugged it before it got to 100% when i was attempting to calibrate it
Im not sure how sensitive these batteries are
but your input would be much appreciated
You could use an off brand iPad charger with your USB cable to help it charge faster your typical phone charger will only give off 0.5 ma, so look for one for a tablet
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only one thing to your problem with charging, replace the new one usb cable and your problem will be solving
rohmanch said:
only one thing to your problem with charging, replace the new one usb cable and your problem will be solving
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I know that but I was wondering if leaving it plugged in will it be bad for my battery at all
to leave it plugged in now approaching 28 hours
the charging logo on the screen appears to have approximately 75% charge so far
I want it to get to 100%
should I unplug it if its not charged in 6-8 more hours
im mainly wondering if it is even possible to fully charge to 100%
on a old ipod usb charger or not
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Hi I just bought a used galaxy note 10.1
it did not come with a usb wall charger
after 7 hours of charging
a search said its my usb charger
I was wounding if it is normal for this to take over 24 hours from 0% battery on a charger like this
that only gives 0.5 A
or am I doing damage to my battery by leaving on charge for longer than 24 hours
its like a incredibly slow trickle charge
right now its almost full it claims but im not sure if it will ever be full at this rate
I thought maybe 24 hours but now its 1 hour past 24
I was trying to (calibrate the battery )
so I let it die to 0%
I turned the device on half way though charging
noticed it had an x though the batter so I freaked out and tryed plugging and unplugging it like 10 times
I was wounding how bad that might be for the memory of my battery to do something like that
because I unplugged it before it got to 100% when i was attempting to calibrate it
Im not sure how sensitive these batteries are
but your input would be much appreciated
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You are not harming your device. The only negative is that it will take longer to charge. The red is normal when not using either the correct type charging block or usb cable, it is not harming your tablet.
I would just do what some of the other posters have suggested, getting a new charger made for a tablet, just because waiting that long for it to charge is not practical.
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I know that but I was wondering if leaving it plugged in will it be bad for my battery at all
to leave it plugged in now approaching 28 hours
the charging logo on the screen appears to have approximately 75% charge so far
I want it to get to 100%
should I unplug it if its not charged in 6-8 more hours
im mainly wondering if it is even possible to fully charge to 100%
on a old ipod usb charger or not
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SGN 10.1 GT-N80XX series need a specifically designed charger for them.
One thing for sure, it need to provide 2.1 A, 5 V & most phone charger only supply around 0.5 - 1 A.
Most 3rd party charger also only supply around 0.5 - 1 A.
The other is the data pin(s) & it quite different with Apple's charger.
I've tried several 3rd party chargers & Apple chargers (iPod,iPhone & iPad) & most of it unable to charge my N8000.
You need to buy an original charger for your device.
Or you can try buying 3rd Party N80XX charger on eBay from a reputable seller.
That being said, you also need an original cable to be used with the original charger.
Most 3rd party cable can only supply 0.5 A & some 3rd party charger can only be used using specific 3rd party cable.
A long 3rd party cable (10 ft / 3 m) usually can only supply around 1 A.
For example :
I have a Powerbank that uses its own cable to charge at 2.1A rate, but I can't use my own original cable with it
But my original cable is fine & I uses it to charge using my original wall charger.
It takes around 4-5 hours from 4% to 100% (with WiFi ON & all sync on)
0.5 A can't charge your device while in Power ON condition.
To charge at 0.5 A rate you have to turn OFF your device & it will take a long time to get 100%
(N80XX series have a 7000mAh battery so you can calculate how long).
NOTE:
The battery with red cross icon means that the charger/cable isn't designed for N80XX (usually the data pin settings is mismatching the original design), but it will still charge your device at a very low amperage (lower than 0.5A) to prevent damage for using inappropriate charger.
rtan73 said:
You are not harming your device. The only negative is that it will take longer to charge. The red is normal when not using either the correct type charging block or usb cable, it is not harming your tablet.
I would just do what some of the other posters have suggested, getting a new charger made for a tablet, just because waiting that long for it to charge is not practical.
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yes I will as soon as I can
thank you
I am still a little worried that It will never make it to 100% with the only one I have available for now
does not really sound like anyone has had the patience to let it go to full with this slow trickle
Amazon has the chargers and cables.
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