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Hey everyone!
First off I want to thank Dr. Gonzo again for the 6.1 rom. It's great and love it!
Second, I was using the HTC home screens that user tho made (found here) and I really got used to having the weather plugin on the homescreen. I really like how the homescreen is setup on this new rom, but I still want a weather plugin for it. Is there any way to add that plugin to this homescreen?
thanks.
if i was you i would try the following:
install the home plugin on your device. copy the .xml file from the plugin to your harddrive. open it and find the coresponding <plugin...> entry for the plugin. Then copy this entry to the xml-file of your skin of choice and there it should appear again... if it does not work or you have no clue what i was talking about, give me report.. i will try to do it for you,
Yea that's what I was thinking about doing. I just did not know if it would work or if it would look alright. I'm at work now so I don't really want to mess with it, but I'm going to try that when I get home.
ok. let us know if it worked when you're done
Wow this is a lot more difficult than I had thought. I can't find the weather plugin in the HTC Home screen and as the other thread may have tipped you off, the Sliding Panel home screen is very confusing to work with.
Basically what I would like to accomplish is to have Weather on my homescreen, while still using the Sliding Panel motif. So like if I could click over to the right next to where it displays the time it would show the weather. I'm going to keep working on this, but if anyone would like to jump in and help me I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
according to the slide panel. I think all you can do is to manipulate the panels with basic configurations read out from the registry. It is not that easy to create something new, but i think a good point to start is always the manipulation of the welcome center, because this one is what most people need when they like to make "their own panels". The only way something will create a new slide is to code a plugin which is dedicated to appear in the slides. and still someone has to figure out what basic options are needed to create a new panel or to figure out what these guids are respectively.
Can you provide the htc home xml at least? it would be nice to have all extracted files in a zip file, so i do not have to install it again and pic all files out by myself.
Well that's sortof bad news that I can't create something new, however it might still be possible to edit the home panel to add that in?
I attached the xml for one of the home screens. I looked through it all and couldn't find the plugin for the weather but maybe you will have better luck than I will.
well, that is exactly what i meant. First choice, change one of the existing panels. If it works then and someone can explain those damn GUIDs I think we would manage to get it work on an own panel.
As far as it is "documented" in the XML (which is quite interesting i think for non wm6.1) this is the plugin-option for the htc home:
<plugin clsid="{B0C8AC4B-CDDC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171}" name="HTCHome" height="88"></plugin>
This means to me, that cannot extract the weather-plugin for the homescreen unless you know how the home-plugin was made and the weather-plugin is a standalone, built-into htc home.
if you install the htc home, and edit your slidingpanel.xml with this tag somewhere, the home plugin should appear. I added the .xml for Frau Hottelmanns panther scheme with the htc home plugintag so you can see what i mean (not sure if the comment-tag is allowed, so just remove it before uploading to your device).
This is all I can do for you right at the moment.
Alright, Thanks a lot. I will try it when I get home.
I am really sorry that i wrote some damn ******* before It surely is possible to create new slides!!! It is just not possible to create a slide with ANY functionality
i just had the idea, that we may figure out what the minimal options for a slide are and then go on to figure out what the others are. But if we know the minimal options we could for example copy the testuiplugin-panel and try to get it work with the entire htc home plugin in it.
just wanted to write that, so you would not be that hopeless
Ok, what i found so far is:
- The htc home plugin works on wm6.1 as usual
- It seems not to work with the bronze-plugin in the same theme
* when loading the theme, the htc home plugin is displayed but vanishes as fast as the bronze-plugin is loaded.
* i played around with the height-attribute from the bronze-plugin but it seems to have absolutely no effect
- what i discovered in one of the previous skins is, that there are at least two major plugins for the htc home plugin which can be loaded in a theme. there is the notificationbar where the calls and sms etc. are shown and there is the htchome where the weather is displayed and so on.
- I also found that the exe-file for the weather-plugin is located at /windows/weather.exe so maybe its possible to configure the "output" on a call of this file and the weatherplugin is displayed (which means that we could put it into a slide)
- I also found an old thread here on xda for the "customization" of the htc home plugin, but it seems that the way the plugin works has changed since this thread and the version gregory released
- what is missing is something like a documentation on the htc home plugin, so which parts are implemented, how are they called from the homescreen etc. maybe gregory, if he's still around here has any idea(s) ???
- i just got that the weather.exe sets the city, downloads and refreshes the local weatherdata. So the output has to be somewhere else.
sounds like you are onto something here. Since the HTC home weather plugin is causing some problems, I think I am going to take a look at some other weather plugins. They might make it a little easier. I'm specifically looking at SPB Weather and Fizz Weather.
The only problem is, once I install them I'm not really sure how to put them into the slide panel. I'm going to play around with it and I'll let you know.
A tip from my side... always start from the delivered .xml files for the theme. mostly you can see there how they are implemented in the home-screen... then you just have to copy it.
i am wondering why the htc home plug does not work with the bronze. rinkus iconbar does, and its also just another plugin implemented... It also would not make sense that microsoft put something in the code of bronze which disables other home plugins
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A tip from my side... always start from the delivered .xml files for the theme. mostly you can see there how they are implemented in the home-screen... then you just have to copy it.
i am wondering why the htc home plug does not work with the bronze. rinkus iconbar does, and its also just another plugin implemented... It also would not make sense that microsoft put something in the code of bronze which disables other home plugins
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You mit be better waitin until HTC release a WM6.1 Standard ROM to see if HTC customize bronze to have parts of there Home plugins integrated and extract everything from a ROM then making a cab file to install it .
Roland
this was my first thought, but as you may know, there are people out there (yes, i am one of those ) that do not like to wait and have things first and before all the others do
kimamil said:
this was my first thought, but as you may know, there are people out there (yes, i am one of those ) that do not like to wait and have things first and before all the others do
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Have you tried using Facade to use the HTC plugin with Bronze?
Roland
nope. i thought one has to BUY facade???
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
I really like it. It gives me access to what I need to see when I glance at the screen (except tasks) and finger-touch access to programs.
It does screw up maybe once a day though requiring a soft reset. I applied the mods recommended and they made my TP freeze a lot so I changed them back to default.
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
Some people are just afraid of change. As there still millions of windows 98 users out there. LMAO, people need to move with the times
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
I like Touchflo3d, but I missed my usual today screen setup.
The easy answer is to use secondtoday, that way I get the best of both worlds, one tap on the screen switches between them.
Gigs said:
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
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Pocket Plus sound like exactly what I need!
nuke1 said:
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
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Bunk = bad and handy gooey is handy GUI or handy Graphical User Interface
migsims said:
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
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maybe thats why I'm having so much trouble with the touch screen. I tap something,,,, wait 5 seconds,,, tap again,,,, wait 6 seconds then give up and get out the stylus. Maybe I should re-enable touchflo to stop this problem
surur said:
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
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Thats interesting. Thanks for the link. Maybe I should give touchflo 3D a another shot.
chetmichaels said:
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
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Me too. Thats why I copied and pasted the links that are in folders within the program folder back up to the program folder. I like having everything in 1 spot. I wish it was alphabetized though.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Performance wasn't really the issue for me. It just seemed like pointless eye candy.
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Care to share those kareem?
jamespaulritter said:
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
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Definitely NOT at all. We must be on different spectrum of the universe. I like TF3D a great deal, make navigating the phone intuitive and seamless. It is just you.
Without TF3D, my Sprint TP would just be any other run of the mill Win Mobile big screen phone. My 39 cents.
TF3D is totally kickass! I love it for everything. Althought I do wish they had the map intergration that they have in TF2D. I also want the stocks tab and am waiting for the hd manilla to be perfected . Other than that, the original htc theme, with q-style font, my personalized background, tweaks from diamond config, and stock fuze rom, it runs pretty darm fast. Only did a soft reset once and that waas because I was attempting to run a qvga application and it crashed.
Gigs said:
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
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I agree. Let's not turn into a bunch of iPhone cattle. They stick to their phones like cult even when plagued with numerous problems.
Get SPB mobile. It blows TFTD out of the water.
dgduris said:
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
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I didn't know the Lord makes phones
Back to the subject, it's all a personal preference. I think it's great, and makes the phone a lot more fun and a little easier to use, you don't, but nobody is right or wrong on this one.
ababrekar said:
Care to share those kareem?
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They are stickied in the Raphael subforum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413562
BTW I have been using TFL3D since when I got my TP in August. SPB Shell seems outdated now but I have it installed anyway, accessible via Second Today
Im looking for some really simple todayscreen launcher. I want 4-5 icons in one row, directly launching apropriate apps. Nothing fancy, no need for submenus/other stuff. Only required option is to autosize icons to fit my X1 (WVGA) screen. Tried lot of launchers like ultimatelaunch, claunch, launch and others - all of them are overcomplicated and usually cant provide this simple requirements I want. Is there any program like this at all?
claunch (er) is so simple...dude, are you sure you do not need regular cellphone instead of ppc, if claunch is too complicated for you?
Its maybe simple, but doesnt work proprely on WVGA devices
ahh, good to know...hm have you tried ilauncher?
Yes, no, cancel?
Hi
You could try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344005
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
Hi everyone
I have my HD2 and i have to say it is superb.
I have looked everywhere and i cannot see any mods to give the HD2 a classic look on the homescreen. i.e remove the program shorcuts from beneath the clock and enable the old program tab along the bottom.
The large screen is so superb and it is a bit too busy and hides the magnificence of a great wallpaper.
also it would be nice if everyone put in one thread all the personalisation mods that work for them from the HD as well as new ones.
I have tried several of them that used to work on my cooked HD roms but now do not on my HD2.
Thinks like tranparent clocks and i would love to have a transparent top taskbar leaving just the icons floating and bottom bar where the menu and phone shorcuts are with out having to install complete theme chager which tweak too many things.
If anyone can help that would be great
go to settings click menu click more than there is a option home screen
there u can ad your classic stuf and dissable htc sence or enable new WM 6.5 home screen. i hope u can find it
grz.
Settings> Today> Items - remove hooks with "HTC Sense"
I think he's asking for a more TouchFLO look, rather than a Sense UI.
I think you're gonna have to wait a while mate. A lot of the customisations that we thought of as normal on the HD simply aren't available yet on the HD2.
I was the same - my HD was modded like mad, but the HD2 is more like it was out of the box. It took a while, but I'm now very used to the Sense UI, and would feel lost without the functionality that I've gained from that extra clutter.
Have a look at the Sense tweaks and mods thread. That has some good stuff in it, but not as much as you're looking for, yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
Thanks guys for taking the time to reply to me.
Xinyo i couldnt quite follow your instructions
and Soverign 35 that dosent work either.
However JohnC your are exactly right. It is the classic touch flo look that i am looking for. i would love to have the option to remove the program shorcuts from the homescreen and have the program tab back along the bottom and practically everthing transparent on the home screen.
Maybe htc could give us the option of the classic touchflo look or the htc sense look. in the next rom update. in the mean time all tweaks would be welcome
Just want the classic look on the HD2 too
I have two problems that stop me getting what I want which I ran on my TyTn II perfectly well. HTC in their infinite wisdom have removed the SMS entries from messaging and thus from the messaging today screen plugin. Secondly as they have also removed the task bar options I cannot set either get it in the top right hand corner of the screen or set the X button to close apps rather than just minimise them. Any ideas how I can re-enable these please?
I am more than happy to disable the cluttered SenseUI nonsense. Having SenseUI as an option is one thing, having it forced on you as a result of not being able to do things in the standard interface because HTC have removed them is another. The whole point of Windows Mobile is it's customisability and HTC have managed to break this!
Hi Guys,
Is it possible to get HD2's Sense UI on android 2.1 devices? I'm a huge fan of HTC's Sense UI. I'd like to get an android device, but this sense UI is stopping me from getting one!
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
i think hes talking about the windows mobile sense. in other words he wants the touchflo like sense if im not mistaken. As far as i know you can't i don't if anyone even tried
i thought legend and desire do actually have almost the same version of Sense UI? They're Android 2.1 devices as well...
yes hes talking about HD2 which is winMo,
i dont think anyone anywhere has done what he says,
i havnt seen sense UI on android, but its lks amazing from the videos better than winMo sense UI (aka touch FLO 3D).
sense andoid vs sense winmo
I'm a winmo user and am not very familiar with andoid. It seems like sense on either improves the home screen.
I've been with Sprint for about 10 years, but considered leaving just to get the hd2 until they announced the evo.
I like the winmo sense today screen because of the slider (don't want to swipe multiple times to get where I want to be), but it looks like andoid might be a little more flexibe in that each screen can have shortcuts or widgets.
I don't like the look of shortcuts just plastered on the screen though and it seems like winmo has come further in the way of mods (more customization/sense tabs/titanium panels) and I've seen (but not yet used) some that 1.detach sense from windows so you can have the windows today screen and sense and 2.enable you to use windows plugins in a sense tab.
Before touchflo I used ultimate launch. It allows tabs that you can put shortcuts, plugins or widgets on and is very customizable. If it had a slider I think it would rule.
I'm hoping more android mods will come soon. I would love to have a slider on sense and more info on the home screen (calendar, missed calls, voicemails, emails, texts, tasks, some metrics) along with the time and weather.
I'm really just looking for the pros and cons even though I will be on android soon because I've been planning on replacing my mogul for a long time (wanted the tp2 then they announced the hd2 then they announced the evo) and the evo is just tooo good. I guess you gotta stop and get something somewhere even if the scorpion is going to be a phone.
I'm not sure if I'm wrong about anything here and would love to hear anyone's thoughts. I hope I'm not off topic as I think touchflo on android sense would be awesome (more screens/panels too although I hear that's a memory hog).
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
I would love to have the windows mobile sense as well, hope someone comes out with a theme for it.
G1BRICKED said:
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
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You know... If you're going to take that tone of text with people, and be a complete jerk in the process, it's usually a REALLY good idea to actually be right in what you claim.
Both the HTC Legend and Desire are also Android 2.1 devices, and both have the original Sense UI on which the current Windows version of it is based.
emmarbee said:
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
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The latest version of SenseUI, on Android 2.1 devices, is FAR superior to the limited Windows implementation of it (as far as I've seen of it, anyway). What specific functionality are you wanting?
As for the screen, I can see my Desire's screen quite well in sunlight, though if it's REALLY bright and directly on the screen, I might need to shade it with a hand. It's certainly better than backlit LCD displays are.
sense, android vs winmo
In what ways do feel sense on android is better than sense on winmo? Honestly looking for opinions. I'm a winmo user, but am switching to android for the Evo and am trying to learn about it. I like the slider on winmo and the all the new mods like the expanded and multiple page launcher and the swipe (once) to switch from appts to tasks.
I know on android you have 7 screens (i used to use ultimate launch with multiple screens), but I've begun to like minimal effort navigating (like using the touchflo slider) to get where I want. I think it might bother me to swipe three times to get to the screen I want. I know, I'm lazy.
Also, I know if I use the multiple page launcher on winmo I will be swiping multiple times, but I doubt I would have that many apps and I also like using touchlaunch (touch a letter and it scrolls there) mapped to a softkey.
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens, so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
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FloatingFatMan said:
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens,
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
Kinda cool, but I'm not a big fan of that either as I like one handed operations. I feel like multitouch is overkill on a phone, but to each his own and it is a neat capability, just more complicated than a one swipe.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
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Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
you know, titanium was like sense on winmo, just ass backwards. You swiped/dragged up and down (the long way) to get to your widget (or panel) and then left and right in that panel.
I want the best of both worlds, windroid.
Manicmobileaddict said:
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
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The only limitation is on available screen real estate. Yes, there are full screen widgets available.
Manicmobileaddict said:
Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
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The problem with adding extra widgets in winmo Sense was that I just found a lot of them hack jobs and not very well put together; this is especially true for Titanium widgets. They often needed extra things to be installed such as MortScript just to do things like getting weather forecast; and in a lot of cases, involved having to hack DLL's to get decent levels of customization. They certainly weren't for the average user who just wanted some neat widgets.
I've been a WinMo user since Orange released their first HTC made Smartphone, the C100 or C200 I think it was? Years ago anyway. I've had an Android phone for 1.5 weeks now, and I'm not missing WinMo in the slightest.
wow
Thanks dune fan.
coming from a tp2 i can tell you about the comparisons.
Try the android sense. it appears different... but not really just adapted. On WM there is only one home screen, hence the tabs. but what are the tabs? home, email, contacts, programs, texts, internet....
well on android sense, like you said each screen is extremely customizable...
but stock sense has it organized just like windows mobile. each home screen is filled with a full page widget of... email, texts, social networking, news, weather etc just like wm. except it needs no hacks to change... if you dont li ke the 'tab' or homescreen... just throw it in the trash and load whatever you want.
So, since I loved Sense on my TP2... mine is set up like this. home screen has the exact weatherclock wm has, with a few shortcuts to most used programs. then one screen is texts, one screen is facebook which works aloooot better in android, one screen is a bunch of programs, one screen is emails. the rest I dont really use.
And the HTC keyboard is EXACTLY the same as the WM one, except it never lags, and word correction is easier but looks the same.
The Sense Dialer on Android is, to me, much superior. I hated the n1 dialer bc like Iphone your always scrolling through abc order to find a name. My new superphone took ten times as long to quickly call my friend. But when i loaded the Desire ROM on my n1, the dialer is now almost exactly like the WM one, except it has some more functionality built in.
Honestly I think HTC gave up on WM's Sense, and used it just to bring parity but spent most time developing the Android version. Try it. some people dislike it, but anyone who like the WM version, like me, will be instantly at home. It was like I bought an HD that never lagged or crashed.
I hate to tell this being the OP.
I don't feel like I want the WinMo Sense UI anymore. I was just obsessed with it. And after seeing many Android Sense UI, I feel like the android one's are more user friendly.
What's more shame one me (being a WinMo fanboy) is the fact that, after seeing the videos of Legend and Desire I kinda started liking Android 2.1. It all began with the Google Nexus One. Now HTC has perfect 2.1.
I very well realize that Android has a lottt of catching up to do, to where WinMo is now, but still
Now that I'm more inclined towards android 2.1, why should I go to a phone without Super AMOLED?
Everything is okay with I9000 Galaxy S. Except for few shortcomings...
A) It doesn't have SENSE UI. But I guess it won't be a problem. Won't you guys help me in porting senseUI to I9000?
B) It doesn't have flash. (What? No flash??)
C) The design looks awful. Both the hardware and software is a cheap replica of iphone - shame on Samsung.
If only there was a HTC phone with super AMOLED display, I can make a decison super quick!
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
emmarbee said:
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
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It's about as possible as running OSX software in Windows without the aid of emulation or virtualisation.
android sense is much better from hd2 sense. i talk you as winmo addicted
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