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Is upgrading the Radio worth the risk?

This is the 4th Wallaby I've replaced from T-Mobile USA, and none of them have had good radio reception for the phone.
I'm using ROM v4.01.16 ENG 02/04/04, and Radio v6.25.02., and using OS 2003, first edition.
I've been reading about upgrading the radio stack, and I'm very leary of flashing the ROM. Is the upgraded ROM worth the risk? Does the radio perform close to a normal cell phone when you're finished?
Thank you for any advice!

I upgraded my Alpine Radio stack from the stock O2's version of 1.00 to the recommended one of 1.04, and it outperforms my mobile (Sony-Ericsson t68i) in terms of reception strength and voice clarity & quality (both ways)
So I'd say, go ahead and flash your radio: I am sure there are links to find out how to make a complete backup of your existing ROMS onto an SD card, so you could always 'revert to original' if for some reason the upgrade failed or the radio got worse.
Joe
P.S. as far as I know, if you wish you can just reflash the radio stack on it's own, leaving the extended & WM roms intact.

Can i please have some assistance with a radio please?

Hi everyone. Excellent place here. VERY helpful, and the information flows like wine!
I bought a at&t tilt, i have sim unlocked it, and installed about 4 different roms. I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best.
However, i am having a hard time figuring out info about the radio. The battery life doesnt seem to be the greatest. And my wifi signal strength is shockingly bad, or so it seems anyway.
Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
I've read the wiki, and have tried searching, but like a lot of other people, it almost overload of info. I would really appreciate it, im going out of town, and having this thing run at bettter performance would really make me happy.
I appreciate any recommendations!

ive been using the niki radio in my signature (downloadable in the wiki) in eastern us and have had no problems. letting everyone know where you are would help in recommending a radio

There are a whole bunch of radios, and there is no clear cut winner. As long as your radio is compatible with your rom, then you gotta test out of all the radios compatible with your rom, which one works the best.
aphexacid said:
Hi everyone. Excellent place here. VERY helpful, and the information flows like wine!
I bought a at&t tilt, i have sim unlocked it, and installed about 4 different roms. I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best.
However, i am having a hard time figuring out info about the radio. The battery life doesnt seem to be the greatest. And my wifi signal strength is shockingly bad, or so it seems anyway.
Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
I've read the wiki, and have tried searching, but like a lot of other people, it almost overload of info. I would really appreciate it, im going out of town, and having this thing run at bettter performance would really make me happy.
I appreciate any recommendations!
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Good idea! lol.......im in Chicago IL USA
Am i able to load the radio since im using 6.0?

aphexacid said:
...Am i able to use a better radio with this rom? Can someone recommend something that will will work without any problems, but will be an actual improvement radio?
to be honest dude radio performances vary by region; something that works great for me here in mclean, va USA probably might not work great for you. It really is just a lot of experimenting with different radios until you find one that gives you good reception and battery life. I believe that the stock htc rom is wm 6 so any wm6 radio will be compatible with the rom; just need to try, try, and try again to see what works best for you.
If you live around metro dc try the radio in my sig... but wait thats a windows mobile 6.1 radio so don't
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My cellular reception is actually really nice! my main issue, is this: i live in a condo, and last night, i went out on my balcony. i was about 15 feet diagonally away from my linksys wrt54GL router, and i wasnt getting ANY wifi. the only thing seperating my phone and router was the wall.
gps signal seems great, with Garmin. Google maps however, i cant get to find a satellite to save my life!

So what everyone is saying is that noone really knows. Im in Miami using T-Mobile and i just installed HardSPL and it worked like a charm. Now i want to install a new rom and theres a bit too much info for me to untagle at this point. So far i gather that some rom's come with different and changable radio versions built in while others work with only 1 version. Now im curious.... how does one install and change these radio settings?
can i just download one and install it?
is there any thread or some sort of complied radio proformances by region? how do these radio versions differ by regional location? i have so many questions....

cyberage29 said:
So what everyone is saying is that noone really knows. Im in Miami using T-Mobile and i just installed HardSPL and it worked like a charm. Now i want to install a new rom and theres a bit too much info for me to untagle at this point. So far i gather that some rom's come with different and changable radio versions built in while others work with only 1 version. Now im curious.... how does one install and change these radio settings?
can i just download one and install it?
is there any thread or some sort of complied radio proformances by region? how do these radio versions differ by regional location? i have so many questions....
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seems like everyone has got a radio question today but here is my answer to help u:
u need to flash a radio like u flash a rom. when u download a radio it has the customruu.exe w/ it. key is to remember one thing: wm6 roms work w/ wm6 radios and wm6.1 roms work w/ wm6.1 radio only. most roms will work with different radios unless the chef specifically has it matched to one radio only.
for more info plz read kaiser wiki.
p.s. while flashing radio ur phone has to be sync w/ pc

>> I have ended up going back to 1.56.405.5 (radio 1.27.12.11) standar HTC rom version. I like it the best
radios 1.27.xx.xx are the only that will be compatible with WM6.0 ROM. Newer 1.5x.xx.xx and 1.6x.xx.xx radios will cause the following issue:
You are going to lose multimedia sound completely: no ringtones, etc, etc.
In call sound will be likely still functional, but I don't belive that this is something you are looking forward to anyway.
I cannot recommend you the best radio for you ROM, but some would say that : 1.27.12.32 is the one.
I hope it helps.

I'm using dutty's rom WM6.1 WWE Rom. I havent changed the Radio yet. I've been using the ROM for about 2 months now and everything was working fine. But recently my phone won't ring. I can still make and receive calls though. Could the problem be because I haven't changed the Radio?

Best Radio? Please read before flaming me!

Ok, I've been on here a while and I've flashed many custom ROMs and many radio versions for my HTC P4600. And I know that the "best" radio version for one person may not be the best for another person based on their location, etc. But, that's my problem.
I tend to travel on occasion and I need my phone to have at least as good of reception as everyone else when I'm away because I use it for work. I can't really go to Wyoming and "test" which radio works best there, then go to Orlando and "test" which radio works best there, much less keep several radio versions to flash before I get there. I've read on here that some level of experimentation is necessary to find what works best, but I can't really go cross-country and try each version out ahead of time.
I know that "what's the best radio version" is a topic that tends to get flames, "read the sticky you noob!" type comments, etc. but I'm really wondering if anyone who does a lot of traveling in the U.S. has a radio version that seems to be at least universally average on their Raphael. Maybe not the absolute best, mind you, but one that works pretty reliably well in a variety of locations. My current ROM is in my signature line, as is my radio version. I'm only using radios that are compatible with the Raphael (not trying to port over another device's radio or anything).
So, is there a "best" radio for general use in a variety of locations?

BPB21 said:
Ok, I've been on here a while and I've flashed many custom ROMs and many radio versions for my HTC P4600. And I know that the "best" radio version for one person may not be the best for another person based on their location, etc. But, that's my problem.
I tend to travel on occasion and I need my phone to have at least as good of reception as everyone else when I'm away because I use it for work. I can't really go to Wyoming and "test" which radio works best there, then go to Orlando and "test" which radio works best there, much less keep several radio versions to flash before I get there. I've read on here that some level of experimentation is necessary to find what works best, but I can't really go cross-country and try each version out ahead of time.
I know that "what's the best radio version" is a topic that tends to get flames, "read the sticky you noob!" type comments, etc. but I'm really wondering if anyone who does a lot of traveling in the U.S. has a radio version that seems to be at least universally average on their Raphael. Maybe not the absolute best, mind you, but one that works pretty reliably well in a variety of locations. My current ROM is in my signature line, as is my radio version. I'm only using radios that are compatible with the Raphael (not trying to port over another device's radio or anything).
So, is there a "best" radio for general use in a variety of locations?
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I think the radio performance depends on your carrier and location, for example a radio on an A&T device will work the same on the same network (AT&T) regardless of where it is.
But since this forum is international, thats where you run into the location issue.
Best to look at Mods or Seniors that have the same carrier and are in the same network and test those radios.
Some may prefer better HSDPA than GPS which is a trade off for some radios.
The radio in your signature should work just about as good as any other radio out there.

That helps greatly
Bruce Inman said:
(Sparking his lighter, Bruce responds.....)
I think the radio performance depends on your carrier and location, for example a radio on an A&T device will work the same on the same network (AT&T) regardless of where it is.
But since this forum is international, thats where you run into the location issue.
Best to look at Mods or Seniors that have the same carrier and are in the same network and test those radios.
Some may prefer better HSDPA than GPS which is a trade off for some radios.
The radio in your signature should work just about as good as any other radio out there.
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Ah, international locations. I didn't make that distinction. Good to know that about my current radio as well. Thanks for the info.

N00b question:
When I hear discussions on "radios" I always though we was talking about the FM radio. So are we talking about the phone radio software or the FM radio?

phone firmware radio not the fm one lol.

qtipextra said:
N00b question:
When I hear discussions on "radios" I always though we was talking about the FM radio. So are we talking about the phone radio software or the FM radio?
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XDA-Wiki said:
Radio ROMs available for your Raphael
The Radio stack in your Raphael is responsible for the connections via GSM and UMTS(3G) - things such as reception and download speeds, etc are affected by the radio stack. Generally some issues with poor reception and bad call quality can be remedied by updating your radio stack using one of the versions found below.
The radio stack is not responsible for wifi or bluetooth connections. This is catered for by the drivers inside the ROM itself.
To find out your current radio version, go to start>settings>system(tab)>Device Information. Your radio version will be displayed there along with some other information about your ROM and protocol versions.
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See this page from the Raphael Radio wiki for a list of extracted Rapheal Radios, install/upgrade procedure, and more info.

[Q] What is a radio?

I know this might be a really stupid question but what is a radio and why do i need to flash one when i need to flash a custom ROM?

http://villainrom.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Dictionary#Radio
Radio
The Radio on a Hero is the part of the phone that deals with mobile connections. It handles talking to the GSM/3G network, Bluetooth, WiFi and GPS. The radio contains software that controls how it operates, and newer versions of radio firmware are made available from time to time in #RUU updates. These updates are transparent to the user, although users who elect to install custom software can update their radio using an update.zip file made available by members of the modding community.
Flashing the radio is potentially risky, and you should NEVER pull the battery out of a phone that is #flashing the radio. If you do so, it is possible your phone will be bricked. Nevertheless, it can give improved battery life, signal strength and data performance, so is often done by users moving to later versions of ROMs.
Care should be taken to only #flash the correct type of radio to a phone. NEVER attempt to flash a CDMA phone with a GSM radio or vice-versa. It is likely you will brick the phone if you attempt to do so.

Samsung Moment 2.1 Bluetooth
I have a basic samsung moment with 2,1 and very satified except my voice activation for bluetooth. I understand the moment will not get 2,2 froyo which would solve my problem.
Me being a nubee and dummie, and just learning, is there a basic way to get this portion of 2,2 into my phone? Or do I have to do a full root etc, Thanks

Installing Radio?

I have been flashing ROM's onto my Touch Pro for some time now and have obviously found great benefits in doing this. As I have been browsing the forums I have seen radios mentioned a lot. I have no idea how to install radio or what radio i would want on my device, is it worth me installing radio? Does it improve the speed or battery life of my phone?
Thanks in advance, I guess someone has already explained this but I haven't come across anything while searching
Currently running Energy Rom.

you flash it just as you would flash a rom, the good thing is that it doesn't erase anything from the device

Thanks for responding mate, what would I gain from flashing a radio though?

Wifi performance, telephone signal strength/call clarity, GPS connection, GPRS connection & battery life are just some things affected by radio version.
Flashing is simple & make sure you install matching rilphone.dll to Windows root folder.
Chasing the newest Radio versions does not always give best results. 1.14.25.05 is my preference at the moment.
check out radio thread link in my signature... search will bring up loads of info but you can waste a lot of time testing a good selection of radios.

Thanks mate! Exactly what i needed!

The biggest improvement is in gps reception. The original raph radios were complete garbage. Instead of waiting and praying for 30 minutes, you could get a lock in 2 minutes or so, maybe 75% of the time (without a-gps). Some of the other improvements are more subjective. Just get one of the most recent raph radios.

Actually I didn't know we can install external radio thanks I'll try to do.