A suggestion for the benefit of the ROM chefs / users - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

Hi all!
Downloading custom ROMs is VERY cool, but a bit of a pain sometimes because the downloads are huge. I have a suggestion about how this could be resolved.
To explain my idea, let's look at how you would flash a ROM using the new method being suggested. You'd need the following things...
- USPL (as usual)
- Custom RUU (as usual)
- 'Control' ROM NBH
Here's the first difference. The control ROM in my proposal is the widely circulated HTC ROM NBH, which can be found here. You'd keep the NBH from this ROM (RUU_Signed.nbh) named as HTC.nbh, and it would be used by all subsequent updates.
So let's imagine that I have a device (USPL'd of course) that I want to flash to the T-Mobile ROM. I'd make sure I had a directory with the Custom RUU and Control ROM NBH in, then i'd download the file from the ROM creator. In this file would be a batch file, a ROM patch and the patcher. The batch file would patch HTC.nbh to T-Mobile spec, then run Custom RUU. The beauty of it? The download would be very small!
Would it work? YES! And to prove a point, please check out this post - where you'll find Orange, T-Mobile and Tilt ROMs in tiny downloads based off the control NBH. ROM chefs - let's start using this system, which i'm calling 'Kaiser TLR ROMs' for obvious reasons.
ROM chefs, to create the patches you just need to use bsdiff, which can be found here. Use the syntax 'bsdiff HTC.nbh YourROM.nbh YourRom.patch'. You can see a sample batch file in my link above.
So... what do u think?
TLR

I don't get it once your HTC is HardSPL'ed then there is no CID lock and you can flash any rom to your device. Most rar files containing the RUU_signed.nbh are only 40-50MB thats pretty small and can be deleted when your finished flashing. To me this seems like a lot of extra work for the cook(sometimes me) and more support issues I find it easy just to upload the ROM i made to rapidshare or some other file hosting site and people can download as they like.

40-50MB is a lot bigger than 6-7MB.
It's not a lot of extra work at all really, it's running one command line, and distributing a couple of files.
I think patching definitely has potential, not least that they are a lot easier (and a lot less illegal?) to host.
TLR

theloanranger said:
40-50MB is a lot bigger than 6-7MB.
It's not a lot of extra work at all really, it's running one command line, and distributing a couple of files.
I think patching definitely has potential, not least that they are a lot easier (and a lot less illegal?) to host.
TLR
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Sounds interesting about the legal hosting capability for diff ROM files instead entire ROM. The ROM archive goes down in the past for the M$ pressing . If we can archive only diif ROMs, this can be one solution to take back the ROM archive into the FTP at XDA.
One offtopic question, where did you get the Orange Shipped ROM for Kaiser?
Cheers.

I didn't, it's a dump and repack, as is the T-Mo one.
TLR

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Announcement: Wizard Rom-Packer Kitchen V2.0

Welcome to the Wizard Rom-Packer Kitchen V2.0, with "Squeezer" technology!
Please read all the way through before starting, even if you've used a previous version.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
This kitchen is easy to use, but is really meant for those with some previous work with other kitchens,like faria's or 004's or Molski's. (If I've left someone out, I'm sorry about that.) This kitchen is based on Bepe's Hermes kitchen, which has incorporated tadzio's reworking of maimach's imgfs tools. This allows the rom to be packed more efficiently, and thus more packages and files to be burned into the rom. The savings is not trivial, a few megabytes at least.
In addition, I have added a new Squeezer module, based on open-source UPX technology, which actually compresses Office .exe files, freeing even more room in the rom (a few more meg), and actually decreasing load times!
Although the Wizard Rom is not quite as malleable as the Hermes in that the extra space is not translated into additional user storage memory, at least the additional freeware, shareware, themes, etc. which can be burned to the rom do not have to reduce the user storage space.
I hope over time to enhance this further, as new innovations become available, (maybe someone will figure out a way to repartition the Wizard Rom?). Also, perhaps adding some way of automatically generating the xip directory. If you have suggestions feel free to let me know about them.
Error checking is not extensive, so be sure to keep your old rom available to fall back to! Check the size of the generated .nbf file. If its around 59 mb you are close to the limit. Be ready to re-flash in bootloader mode (after paring some packages or files) if the program exits before the 100% mark.
How to use:
Download your favorite base rom, at this point one from another kitchen, which has already been broken down to SYS, OEM, and ROM directories. Delete the SYS, OEM, and ROM directories from my kitchen, and copy the ones from the other kitchen in there instead.
Make a copy of the SYS\OFFICE directory in case of later problems (not likely).
An additional caution/strong recommendation is to delete the /autoupdate package from your roms. This currently does nothing anyway, so you won't miss it, and in any case would likely only create havoc with a custom rom. But additionally the repacking method used in this kitchen removes the extra space in the rom which was to be used for that anyway, and so autoupdate will definitely be useless in a rom built with this method.
Run the SqueezeOffice.bat program. (This compresses your main Office .exe's)
Make sure there is an 80040000-os.nb file in the ROM directory. (It may be called something else and have to be renamed. It'll be around 50mb in size.)
Now click on Start.bat, and away you go...
(Optional) If you want to later go back to using another kitchen, run the PrepareNewNB.bat file. After it completes, there will be a new, compacted 80040000-OS.nb file created in the ROM directory which you can move back to your original kitchen. (Also copy the Office directory back) You will loose some packing efficiency by building in another kitchen, but you will still gain lots of space from having visited here!
Depending on the kitchen you were using, either you will see selectable packages or not during the running of BuildOS. Use whatever method you were using previously to add new packages or to remove the ones you don't want. In general, everything should work about the same way it did before, except you will be able to fit more packages in than previously! (Those who are importing faria's kitchen will have to rename his BuildOS.exe to BOS.exe and bring it into this kitchen. Also, rename his Flash file in the ROM directory to 80040000-OS.nb.)
You will be given the opportunity to go all the way to flashing the rom, similar to the way faria's kitchen is set up. Hold down the Control and "C" keys during one of the pauses provided if you do not want to go to the next step for some reason. (You have a G4, unlocked G3, want postpone flashing for later, etc.) Then press the "Y" key to abort when prompted.
If you'd like, check out the ZSqueezer directory, and the readme there. There you can compress your other programs for even more space (and speed!).
Thanks to all those who have helped me in the past, and especially those who created the tools and roms we all use and enjoy.
Version History:
Initial Unlabeled: Worked fine
V1.1: Added "pre-packing", had a bug in Start.bat
V1.2: Worked fine
V1.3: Deletion of .rgu files from the dump.
V2.0: Removed .rgu deletion (instability), and introduced "squeezer" compression.
Download Link: V2.0
http://rapidshare.com/files/33616241/Wizard_ROM-Packer_Kitchen_V2.0.rar
Standalone Squeezer Module
For those interested in having the "squeezer" technology for their own programs, but aren't comfortable cooking their own roms, I have created a standalone module for that. (Already included in the latest Rom-Packer Kitchen V2.0). I've also started a separate thread for that as well in the Upgrading section. Of course, feel free to leave comments and suggestions in either thread.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1283338#post1283338
Have fun!
More space for later use.
thanks. i'll give it a go later tonight
I just tried these tools and didn't have much sucess....
I used the latest mUn base ROM, added some OEM stuff that I have been using without issues when creating ROM's with mUn's previous ROM. All this went OK. It got to the point of installing the ROM on the device but the ROMUpdateUtility just exited at 98% and left the Wizard in limbo. I have had put it in bootloader and re-intall a previous ROM
There was no message, it just got to 98% on the PC and the Wizard and then the ROMUpdateUtility just exited. I tried manually using the nb2nbf application and copying the resulting nk.nbf to another RUU folder and the same thing happened.
Any idea's?
Andy
ADB100 said:
I just tried these tools and didn't have much sucess....
I used the latest mUn base ROM, added some OEM stuff that I have been using without issues when creating ROM's with mUn's previous ROM. All this went OK. It got to the point of installing the ROM on the device but the ROMUpdateUtility just exited at 98% and left the Wizard in limbo. I have had put it in bootloader and re-intall a previous ROM
There was no message, it just got to 98% on the PC and the Wizard and then the ROMUpdateUtility just exited. I tried manually using the nb2nbf application and copying the resulting nk.nbf to another RUU folder and the same thing happened.
Any idea's?
Andy
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Can't really say. I've also flashed mUn's latest, and it seemed to go ok. Did you create your own xip directory? If not, use the version in 004's kitchen as a base.
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Can't really say. I've also flashed mUn's latest, and it seemed to go ok. Did you create your own xip directory? If not, use the version in 004's kitchen as a base.
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I had the XIP directory from the original ROM kitchen (in dOUbleOfour_Wiz_Dev_5.2.1413WWE.rar). I think I might try without any OEM stuff and build it up and see where it fails. In your original post you mentioned the error checking is not extensive, does it log any errors anywhere? (apart ffrom the log.txt file that looks OK).
Andy
ADB100 said:
I had the XIP directory from the original ROM kitchen (in dOUbleOfour_Wiz_Dev_5.2.1413WWE.rar). I think I might try without any OEM stuff and build it up and see where it fails. In your original post you mentioned the error checking is not extensive, does it log any errors anywhere? (apart ffrom the log.txt file that looks OK).
Andy
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You put too many files, that's why it existed. I presume that because it exited at 98% , meaning that almoust fit, but it didn't . Try leaving out a package ...something about 1MB or so..mabe less
anichillus said:
You put too many files, that's why it existed. I presume that because it exited at 98% , meaning that almoust fit, but it didn't . Try leaving out a package ...something about 1MB or so..mabe less
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Yep, I think that's what the issue is
When I tried cooking with this as the Base ROM previously I ran into size limitations so I was hoping that these new kitchen tools would solve this -
This allows the rom to be packed more efficiently, and thus more packages and files to be burned into the rom. The savings is not trivial, several megabytes at least.
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Obviously not enough
I'll play around a bit more and see where I get....
Andy
I'm very sorry, but I left out a very important preparation step in my original posting. Please redownload the package to get the corrected version. (V1.1) I think you will find the results to be much more satisfying! Keep the bug reports coming..
the new start batch file doesn't have the correct paths in it. its trying to work in the root folder not temp.
the original one works good though. too late to flash tonight, but i'll give it a go tomorrow and let you know how it works
I tried to correct the start batch file to use temp but now get errors about not finding initflashfiles.dat in the temp\dump area. I don't have time to debug this right now.
I also noticed that the nb2nbf.exe is a Typhoon Smartphone version (so not sure that is correct for the Wizard).
I will say that the pre processor that does the packing is cool. The Faria Vanilla 80040000.nb (in Faria's kitchen its actually called FLASH.nb0, so I just renamed it) was 58.3MB in size. After running the PrepareNewNB.bat it was then 57.1MB, so a full meg smaller. I'll see about moving this over to the Faria kitchen and using it to rebuild my rom later and see how that changes things when its actually flashed to the phone.
i'll post the working one in a little bit.
edit... here's the one that works for me
notyourdaddy said:
i'll post the working one in a little bit.
edit... here's the one that works for me
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Thanks, I was bleary eyed last night with trying to figure out what was going on that it wasn't working for you guys, and I ended up "fixing" some things that weren't broken I guess.
Just be sure to delete the old dump file in the temp directory after you run the preparenewnb.bat file.
Has the compression been working for you?
I appreciate your help. I'm juggling lots of things with "real life" and am sorry for the slip-ups.
I am updating the first postings.
notyourdaddy said:
i'll post the working one in a little bit.
edit... here's the one that works for me
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Maybe its an issue with the Faria RK base rom and compatibility with this kitchen, but even with this updated file (thanks for that) I still get the following error when running the build os step:
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Could not find file "temp\dump\initflashfiles.dat".
The other question is, is it ok to use the Typhoon Smartphone nb2nbf.exe that comes with this?
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Maybe its an issue with the Faria RK base rom and compatibility with this kitchen, but even with this updated file (thanks for that) I still get the following error when running the build os step:
Code:
Could not find file "temp\dump\initflashfiles.dat".
The other question is, is it ok to use the Typhoon Smartphone nb2nbf.exe that comes with this?
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Yeah, I was just running through the faria kitchen and had the same issue. The workaround is to copy the initflashes.dat file in the OS folder and then paste it into the dump directory after buildos has deleted the previous dump and before it is processing the sys\os directory. (Watch the process messages at the bottom of the buildos screen.) This worked for me.
Yes the typhoon version works fine. I think they are mostly all relabeled versions of the same original tools. (Except the imgf tools which are recently updated by tadzio.)
Hope this helps.
weird. intiflashfiles.dat copied over for me using 004's kitchen
I just finished doing a build with faria's kitchen as a base, and was somewhat disappointed that I was unable to flash the entire kitchen at once. I had to leave out enterprise and voip (which is fine for me, but some may want them). I'd be interested in hearing how much extra space people are finding. I felt like I was able to cram a lot more into double_ofour's mUn release, but perhaps that's because it was more stripped down to start? Maybe "the kitchen sink" was a bit optimistic.
Re Faria kitchen
mfrazzz, The easy fix for the faria kitchen is to use faria's buildos.exe instead of the generic one I included. That one runs fine with his kitchen. Just rename it to bos.exe. (or edit the start.bat appropriately.) I don't think this will affect the packing of the files.
Update
OK, Things seem stable now. I've updated the first posting with additional information gleaned from everyone's input, and updated the version. The old start.bat that notyourdaddy posted should not be necessary.
FYI, I got feedback from one user that they got about 2.5 meg additional space from these tools vs the old tools. Not as earth shattering as I'd hoped, but helpful. Roms with more small files, as opposed to those with larger files will likely benefit more, as the savings are in the "padding" between them.
Feel free to incorporate this into your own kitchens.
Regards,

Extracting cab files from ROMs

Hi,
I have tried a few ROMs and I need a combination of them when it comes to built in application!
I tried to serach and research this but still could not understand how you can extract CAB files from an existing Kaiser ROM if I have the ROM in .nbh format.
I am new to Kaiser and never used the ROM Kitchen before. I used to have HTC Prophet before so I am still used to the old ways of changging "Extended Memory" contents and the config file for it.
Thanks for your help.
Be not afraid of the new ways...
Steel77 said:
Hi,
I have tried a few ROMs and I need a combination of them when it comes to built in application!
I tried to serach and research this but still could not understand how you can extract CAB files from an existing Kaiser ROM if I have the ROM in .nbh format.
I am new to Kaiser and never used the ROM Kitchen before. I used to have HTC Prophet before so I am still used to the old ways of changging "Extended Memory" contents and the config file for it.
Thanks for your help.
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A couple of suggestions....
1) Read slowly, deliberately, an multiple times to ensure you are not missing details.
2) If you don't understand something specific, ask the specific question on this forum and we are better armed to assist.
3) Don't be afraid to just try and run the SW after reading carefully. It's not painful or anything just to jump in and run the software (just don't load it on your phone until you are confident in the results). The worse that happens is you run it over. Since you are extracting for the 1st time, I suggest you follow the instructions EXACTLY. I don't care if it tells you to lift your leg and bark like a dog, just do it! Also, to get a feel for the quality of your results, extract a cab that you already have and compare after you're done.
Cheers and good luck!

A plea to all ROM Cookers!

Guys,
we love what you do, and we couldn't do it ourselves, *but* most of us could (and would like to) remove/add the odd OEM pkg or so. And be honest, that's probably how you all got started, too.
However, these days, it isn't possible to easily do. Hypercore Kitchen (which is wonderful) doesn't work for either Ranju or PDAViet ROMs, and I've had limited success with other recent ROMs.
I for one (and I know I'm not alone) would love to make my own custom ROM based on some of those out there, but because of problems, can't.
So - PLEASE - as well as your ROM, please post your kitchen somewhere.
Thank you!!
-Paul.
I second this request. I am currently using a custom builtRom I built using hypercore from an earlier Ranju WM6 ROM and although it works well I always want the latest ROMs and the WM6.1 roms I have tried are so much faster.
Any help would be much appretiated.
Would love to see this too.
I Think Ranju's ROMs are great but I would love to be able to remove total commander and a couple of other bits and pieces.
uMP2k said:
Would love to see this too.
I Think Ranju's ROMs are great but I would love to be able to remove total commander and a couple of other bits and pieces.
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The Ranju 7.7 ROM have the rgu.cab file. Unzip this file in dump directory and use pkgtool for create oem and sys folder. Use a cooker tutorial for changes.
anmendes said:
The Ranju 7.7 ROM have the rgu.cab file. Unzip this file in dump directory and use pkgtool for create oem and sys folder. Use a cooker tutorial for changes.
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Thanks for the tip, I have taken the rgu.cab file and now have them incorperated into the OEM folder after running pkgtool. However I still get an error that comes up when i use any uild rom tools. It runs through all the files fine but after i have "pressed any button to continue" it comes up with an error about the partition and then says it is safer to abort.
Could you let me know if you have successfully rebuilt a personal rom and exactly what tools you used.
Thanks
Dan

Confused on some things when cooking!!

I've started trying my hand at cooking some of my own ROMs over the past couple of days and have gotten confused on some stuff. I've been following the both the Wiki's and the threads on cooking but none of them seem to point it out so here goes.
1) I'm trying to use a base ROM such as this one or this one and have been successful in both dumping them and cooking them using Alex's latest revision of KaiserKitchen and his apps. When I am including the os.nbh file during the cooking process, should it be the one that comes up in the main KaiserKitchen folder or the one that is located in the BASEROM folder? Is either of those files just the OS part of the ROM without all the applications and such?
2) After cooking and successfully flashing either of the two before mentioned ROMs I will always get the auto-installer which occurs on a default ROM. The problem is is that none of the defined packages that I've chosen in the cooking process will be installed when the ROM is flashed. Why is this? Is there something that I should be doing that I'm not doing now that will allow this?
I would greatly appreciate any help in this as I want to become an avid chef but want to learn the ropes first. I've been toying around with it and wanted to get a decent collection of base ROMs and understand them before I start customizing them and such. Again, any help would be thoroughly appreciative and love what you guys are doing here.
HEdwards2008 said:
I've started trying my hand at cooking some of my own ROMs over the past couple of days and have gotten confused on some stuff. I've been following the both the Wiki's and the threads on cooking but none of them seem to point it out so here goes.
1) I'm trying to use a base ROM such as this one or this one and have been successful in both dumping them and cooking them using Alex's latest revision of KaiserKitchen and his apps. When I am including the os.nbh file during the cooking process, should it be the one that comes up in the main KaiserKitchen folder or the one that is located in the BASEROM folder? Is either of those files just the OS part of the ROM without all the applications and such?
2) After cooking and successfully flashing either of the two before mentioned ROMs I will always get the auto-installer which occurs on a default ROM. The problem is is that none of the defined packages that I've chosen in the cooking process will be installed when the ROM is flashed. Why is this? Is there something that I should be doing that I'm not doing now that will allow this?
I would greatly appreciate any help in this as I want to become an avid chef but want to learn the ropes first. I've been toying around with it and wanted to get a decent collection of base ROMs and understand them before I start customizing them and such. Again, any help would be thoroughly appreciative and love what you guys are doing here.
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os.nb should be in base rom with RUU_signed.nbh(once youve extracted) The File that is generated during ervius package tools is OS-new.nb-this is your new os. Kaiser Wiki has all info.
yardie.spike said:
os.nb should be in base rom with RUU_signed.nbh(once youve extracted) The File that is generated during ervius package tools is OS-new.nb-this is your new os. Kaiser Wiki has all info.
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I've been searching the Wiki like crazy and I guess I am just confused on it. So OS-new.nb is the OS ROM with all of the packages, Which one would be just the OS itself? The os.nb file in the BASEROM folder?
HEdwards2008 said:
I've been searching the Wiki like crazy and I guess I am just confused on it. So OS-new.nb is the OS ROM with all of the packages, Which one would be just the OS itself? The os.nb file in the BASEROM folder?
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Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder. OS .nb is what is extracted into OEM SYS and ROM folders in the kaiserkitchen. To add Packages put a folder called Packages in your kaiserkitchen and put your OEM Packages in it, then run KAISERKITCHEN.CMD chose option c then b. When Ervius build os +package tool opens,click the right tab and add rom(Add your kaiserkitchen folder,but make sure its on your desktop). You will then get a list of packages in the premade folder, just tick the ones you want to add to your rom. Once happy click build rom. Once done exit and KAISERKITCHEN.CMD should crack on by itself....then bring up a couple more apps(Rom Tool and Pagepool)just do what they say . every time you exit these apps KAISERKITCHEN.CMD will take you to the next step.
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Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder.
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speaking of the htc rom tool, does anyone have a mirror for the latest version (1.1.1). it's not working on his site, and I 'm really interested in the command line support
mbarvian said:
speaking of the htc rom tool, does anyone have a mirror for the latest version (1.1.1). it's not working on his site, and I 'm really interested in the command line support
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Theres a new ROM tool????Anyone tried??
NEW IS GOOD!!!
Thank you so much for the clarification. I've also been trying to find a decent kitchen setup and the one made by Alex is the best one I've encountered so far but haven't really steered too far from his build. I have to agree that a new version of the HTC Rom Tool would be cool.
HEdwards2008 said:
Thank you so much for the clarification. I've also been trying to find a decent kitchen setup and the one made by Alex is the best one I've encountered so far but haven't really steered too far from his build.
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I just put up a Kaiser 20270 kitchen from PPCKitchen.org and AstainHellbring. Try it, let me know what you think. Feedback thread is here.
yardie.spike said:
Yeah, but dont worry about os.nb in base rom folder, unless you dont want to mod the rom and just add your fave radio/splash/spl. If thats all you want to do then recomplile using htcrt.exe in tools folder. OS .nb is what is extracted into OEM SYS and ROM folders in the kaiserkitchen. To add Packages put a folder called Packages in your kaiserkitchen and put your OEM Packages in it, then run KAISERKITCHEN.CMD chose option c then b. When Ervius build os +package tool opens,click the right tab and add rom(Add your kaiserkitchen folder,but make sure its on your desktop). You will then get a list of packages in the premade folder, just tick the ones you want to add to your rom. Once happy click build rom. Once done exit and KAISERKITCHEN.CMD should crack on by itself....then bring up a couple more apps(Rom Tool and Pagepool)just do what they say . every time you exit these apps KAISERKITCHEN.CMD will take you to the next step.
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So if I'm understanding this correctly....in order to achieve a completely clean ROM without all the extra fixings I would simply need to use the os.nb file and not the os-new.nb file when cooking correct?
No, the only way to get a completely clean base is to use one someone made, or to manually remove extra oems from an uncorrupted rom (which usually means stock). os.nb is the donor imgfs, os-new.nb is the donor imgfs with your added pkgs.
The PPCkitchen.org kaiser kitchen is clean, and is way simpler to use. If you're trying to get to a clean base, do yourself a favor and just use it.
so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
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so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
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I do know that in order to get the base OEM packages out of the main build you have to go through and remove and edit certain files to get it done right, which there is information in the Wiki about but haven't really had time to focus on it much. As for the PPCKitchen.org version of the Kitchen, I'm going to try it when I get home tonight because I'm at work currently. Gguruusa, you have to understand that some of us are new to the cooking community and want to be able to get our feet wet slowly and make sure we do stuff right instead of damaging our device. I've only got one Tilt and I don't want to completely destroy it. I would love to cook but need to be able to start off with a simple clean base rom with no extra ingredients and then go from there.
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so... does this mean that if I use for say OEM HTC ROM, and put the os.nb in the base folder, when I build it using the tool, whatever packages I selected are simply added to whatever is on the OS.NB? I thought it would use the baserom as base and whatever apps installed on it are ignored. I guess I totally got it wrong then... So how do you strip out all the programs that have been installed in the baserom? Does this mean you have to dump the image?
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No dont put os.nb in the base rom put the RUU_unsigned and extract using KAISERKITCHEN.cmd.....read my previous posts.
gguruusa said:
No, the only way to get a completely clean base is to use one someone made, or to manually remove extra oems from an uncorrupted rom (which usually means stock). os.nb is the donor imgfs, os-new.nb is the donor imgfs with your added pkgs.
The PPCkitchen.org kaiser kitchen is clean, and is way simpler to use. If you're trying to get to a clean base, do yourself a favor and just use it.
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This looks very promising, downloading it now. Thanks for this! Hope they update it 20273 soon
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As for the PPCKitchen.org version of the Kitchen, I'm going to try it when I get home tonight because I'm at work currently. Gguruusa, you have to understand that some of us are new to the cooking community and want to be able to get our feet wet slowly and make sure we do stuff right instead of damaging our device. I've only got one Tilt and I don't want to completely destroy it. I would love to cook but need to be able to start off with a simple clean base rom with no extra ingredients and then go from there.
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That's why ppckitchen.org was born. With ppckitchen.org, it's a point and click thing to build a rom. The mysterious part (making a kitchen base) is done for you. All you have to focus on is what packages you want to add.
You still have to unlock your device and install radios outside the kitchen, which is where people generaly brick their devices.
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That's why ppckitchen.org was born. With ppckitchen.org, it's a point and click thing to build a rom. The mysterious part (making a kitchen base) is done for you. All you have to focus on is what packages you want to add.
You still have to unlock your device and install radios outside the kitchen, which is where people generaly brick their devices.
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I shouldn't have any problems then seeing as to how I know that you need to have HardSPL installed and also to be sure to flash the radio AFTER the ROM in order to prevent bricking.
But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
I will have to say my most challenging part is trying to get the base rom the way I like it in order to add whatever I want.
For example....
In my current kitchen I have deleted all of the OEMAPPS folders except the dsm file. I have then rebuilt all of my programs like the way a Diamond and Raphael ROM is....
In essence, If I was to just build my ROM without any packages it would be a clean rom without any software like camera, mms, phoneskins ect....
Its taken awhile thats why I have not published my newest rom yet...
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But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
I will have to say my most challenging part is trying to get the base rom the way I like it in order to add whatever I want.
For example....
In my current kitchen I have deleted all of the OEMAPPS folders except the dsm file. I have then rebuilt all of my programs like the way a Diamond and Raphael ROM is....
In essence, If I was to just build my ROM without any packages it would be a clean rom without any software like camera, mms, phoneskins ect....
Its taken awhile thats why I have not published my newest rom yet...
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I totally agree my favourite build was one that went wrong and nearly bricked my phone....sounds sick, but it was going back over what i had done and fixing that was the fun part. That ROM turned out to be possibly my most stable (Yardie 2.1.240) Ha ha i love cooking!!!
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But that takes the whole fun out of cooking a rom when the base is already made for you...!!!
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Bah. The fun of cooking is getting a ROM to look and feel like you want. Making a kitchen is entertaining when you haven't done it before, but it's really 99% repetition and 1% art.

New ROM!!! - TechLust ver1 BETA <SJK> - Help me cook better!

Hey Wing Nuts! Sorry... I'll never make that joke again...
I'm new to cooking, so I need help. This is my first ROM. I have done minimal testing and have made no changes as of yet. I'm hoping a couple of you can help me figure out what to add, change, or remove from this ROM and work out any of the other bugs so I can get better at making them.
The goal of this build was to make something aesthetically pleasing, not too stripped, and still lightweight enough to make the most of the limited space on the P4350.
This build is for the Wing only (Herald keyboard is not supported) and was designed for use with an RUU. I have no idea if it will actually work via SD re-flash, but if you decide to try, let me know.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Message me to get a DL link.
On a side note, does anybody know how to add CABs into SJK so I can cook them into ROMs?
Maybe I can post the link like this...
Code:
Go to mediafire and use the following extensions, but replace the commas with slashes:
,file,widwm4iji4y,T L ver 1 - BETA.nbh
If you want, follow my guide in my sig to learn how to utilize .cab files in your building experience.
I'll also give the ROM a run and test it out for you.
Please also do me a favor and let me download your kitchen .erv file so I can help you better..
Navigate to C:\kitchens\SuperJustKitchen\Working_Folder\TOOLS\RomSaved and you'll see the saves that you saved.. If you didn't save, try to mimic your ROM again in the kitchen and save for me and then upload it here in a .zip file.
I think I understand. I'm cooking a new version right now, so I'll get those files to you as soon as it's done. I'm using the most recent version of SJK, just fyi (the one based in osKitchen1.0). I know where the .fe file is, but I don't have a Working_Folder in my SJK files...
I tried using your guide, but the pictures you have posted don't match what I see, so it confuses me...
My kitchen files are based off of Bebe's kitchens. I have links on my guide on the first post of that thread.
What build are you using?
Version 7. And in my guide I have all the Sys & Xip files that are also up to date too.
lol @ "wingnut." Made me chuckle.
So, update...
Recent computer issues have lost me some cooking time...
Also, when trying to cook the new ROM, SJK seems to have lost a file that is integral to the creation of a new rom, so I have to go back and find it in the original .7z files.
I also installed Ivan's JustStable5 Micro onto the test wing, and now it won't accept a reflash either through SD or RUU. So I have to work on that issue as well. I'll let you know when we're back up and running.
Otherwise, any existing feedback on the ROM will be helpful before the new version is finished. Thanks everyone!
New Release
Ok, so all off the issues I was having have been solved. I've switched to bebe's kitchen (thanks Trib!) with Ivan's files and have a new version uploaded. Link below.
Changes:
Some icons changed to fit theme. More to come!
Custom splash animation added.
(Trib, how do I change the ugly orange Windows image, as well as get rid of the greenscreen startup?)​Rid ROM of several useless files and added a few new ones.
ROM size dropped 20MB (From 77MB to 57MB)​
After Flash:
Storage Memory:
Total: 45.92
In Use: 7.64
Free: 38.28​Program Memory:
Total: 49.83
In Use: 40.42
Free: 9.41​
Code:
http rghost net,1487003
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My kitchen files are based off of Bebe's kitchens. I have links on my guide on the first post of that thread.
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Thanks Trib. I actually like Bebe's version better...
You're welcome. I feel bebes is easier to work with..
I'll get the save file uploaded soon. There's an issue that I noticed with the "incoming caller" icon not showing. I modified it so that the sihlouette(sp?) is outside the original square size, but not outside the original image size? Is that a picture demension issue?
Archive your complete working_folder for me and upload. I'd like to see all files so I can help..
Unfortunately, the work computer isn't working again. I've never gotten so many BSODs in my life without any real explaination as to the problem. It seems to do it whenever it feels like it.
Anyways, I digress, I'll get you the working folder as a 7z asap. Post any thoughts you have on the ROM in the meantime.
Hey, I can't get the file to upload to rghost. I zipped it with "ultra" compression. Should I have done something different?
Use mediafire or 4shared or megaupload then.. I have an account with all of them.
Is it normal that the WorkingFolder.7z file is over 300MB?
Yeah, that's nothing.. My kitchen is over 3 gigs - thats 3072 MB's , lol.
So, I'm trying to work with rghost, filefactory, and megaupload all at the same time, but none seem to be actually accomplishing the upload. wtf.

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