Hey all,
This is my first post here; just found the website. I've been looking for something like this!
Anyway, the reason for my post is that my current freebie cellphone dropped from a high perch last night and shattered into a hundred pieces, finally giving me an excuse to pull the trigger on something nicer. I really like Docomo's Touch Pro, but I'm hoping somebody here might answer two questions about it before I drop 50,000 yen.
1.) The menus are all in Japanese and I've been told they cannot be changed to English. My Japanese is decent but I'm sure for such a sophisticated piece of tech, I'd like everything to be in English to take advantage of fine tuning, etc. Would there be a way to reformat the phone to put an English version of Windows Mobile on there, and if I did, could I still input Japanese characters?
2.) I'm going to be in Japan for at least another year and a half or so, but past that there's a chance I might have to go back to the US for work. If I did, what are the odds that the Touch Pro would work on a carrier like AT&T or Verizon? Are the 3G frequencies too different?
Thanks to anyone who replies
-Jonathan
Jonathan24 said:
Hey all,
This is my first post here; just found the website. I've been looking for something like this!
Anyway, the reason for my post is that my current freebie cellphone dropped from a high perch last night and shattered into a hundred pieces, finally giving me an excuse to pull the trigger on something nicer. I really like Docomo's Touch Pro, but I'm hoping somebody here might answer two questions about it before I drop 50,000 yen.
1.) The menus are all in Japanese and I've been told they cannot be changed to English. My Japanese is decent but I'm sure for such a sophisticated piece of tech, I'd like everything to be in English to take advantage of fine tuning, etc. Would there be a way to reformat the phone to put an English version of Windows Mobile on there, and if I did, could I still input Japanese characters?
2.) I'm going to be in Japan for at least another year and a half or so, but past that there's a chance I might have to go back to the US for work. If I did, what are the odds that the Touch Pro would work on a carrier like AT&T or Verizon? Are the 3G frequencies too different?
Thanks to anyone who replies
-Jonathan
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Don't see why you could't change the language by flashing a new rom on, and if you need to enter japanese characters there are software keyboards that let you input them from memory.
1) You can install a WWE rom just fine, there are XDA members who have done this already. Then use the Japanese display/input cab found here to re-add Japanese support. You may need to do additional tweaking for specific apps or to get the keyboard right, but it shouldn't be very difficult.
2) The HT-01A will be locked to DoCoMo, but you can get it unlocked (a quick search on XDA will point you in the right direction) which will allow you to use it with an AT&T SIM card. Important note: DoCoMo uses UMTS 2100 for 3G while AT&T uses UMTS 850/1900, so you will need to make sure the HT-01A supports the latter if you want to use 3G with AT&T. The same goes for SoftBank X05HT. Otherwise you will still be able to use regular GSM/EDGE.
Verizon uses a CDMA network so it will not support either HT-01A or X05HT. au/KDDI (which also runs on CDMA) also has a Touch Pro, the E30HT, however it is next to impossible to switch networks with CDMA devices.
Your other option is to buy an unlocked AT&T Fuze/Touch Pro from the US (eBay?), which supports UMTS 850/1900/2100, and bring it to Japan to use with DoCoMo or SoftBank.
Of course, depending on your situation, you may have an easier time getting a Touch Pro from SoftBank than from DoCoMo due to their contract requirements.
anyone figured out how to get sms working in japan? my friend with his 8525 in tokyo can't sms my fuze in seattle.
Wow, I hadn't even considered importing a Touch Pro from the States. If the AT&T version supports both US and (Docomo) Japanese 3G frequencies, that sounds like a train I need to get on. Any idea if the folks at Docomo will have a fit if I bring in a foreign phone, or will they set me up no questions asked?
I did a quick search and found this (hopefully it's ok to link to ebay here): http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Unlocked-AT-T-HTC-Fuze-Diamond-Touch-Pro-P4600_W0QQitemZ160302176188QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item160302176188&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
Thanks so much for the information, it's incredibly helpful!
-Jonathan
Jonathan24 said:
Wow, I hadn't even considered importing a Touch Pro from the States. If the AT&T version supports both US and (Docomo) Japanese 3G frequencies, that sounds like a train I need to get on. Any idea if the folks at Docomo will have a fit if I bring in a foreign phone, or will they set me up no questions asked?
I did a quick search and found this (hopefully it's ok to link to ebay here): http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Unlocked-AT-T-HTC-Fuze-Diamond-Touch-Pro-P4600_W0QQitemZ160302176188QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item160302176188&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
Thanks so much for the information, it's incredibly helpful!
-Jonathan
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get setup on the cheapest POS phone you can get from docomo, then transfer your sim to a sim unlocked touch pro. my friend uses his unlocked tytn II in japan without problems.
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anyone figured out how to get sms working in japan? my friend with his 8525 in tokyo can't sms my fuze in seattle.
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It will depend on his carrier (DoCoMo or SoftBank) and what plan he's using, whether it will support forwarding SMS internationally. Most people in Japan use the hybrid MMS/email services (which are pay per-byte rather than per-message). With it, messages are sent as regular emails (but "pushed" to the phone using MMS delivery); which means you don't have to worry about international routing, just send emails to each other as you normally would.
For SoftBank subscribers, you will need MMSLite (3rd party) or S!Mail (SoftBank). MMSLite is rather limited in functionality, and S!Mail is a little slow (although I hear newer versions are much faster). I don't know specifics for DoCoMo subscribers, but I imagine it's a similar situation.
Of course your friend will probably be able to get more help by going into a store and talking with a representative.
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Wow, I hadn't even considered importing a Touch Pro from the States. If the AT&T version supports both US and (Docomo) Japanese 3G frequencies, that sounds like a train I need to get on. Any idea if the folks at Docomo will have a fit if I bring in a foreign phone, or will they set me up no questions asked?
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Yes, as bani1 suggested, you should be able to just buy a cheap phone from DoCoMo (UMTS 2100 network) and transfer the SIM over to a Touch Pro/Fuze (UMTS 850/1900/2100 support). The Touch Pro also includes automatic network configuration profiles for both DoCoMo and SoftBank. For DoCoMo, you will need to subscribe to their "FOMA" service. For SoftBank, you will need their "3G" service. You will not be able to subscribe to eMobile (UMTS 1700 network), au/KDDI (CDMA network), or Willcom (PHS network).
Again, depending on your living situation (non-permanent residency documentation), you may have difficulty getting a phone from DoCoMo, so keep in mind that SoftBank is the other option in case you're unable to subscribe with DoCoMo.
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get setup on the cheapest POS phone you can get from docomo, then transfer your sim to a sim unlocked touch pro. my friend uses his unlocked tytn II in japan without problems.
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The last time I was in the Docomo shop, they told me I had to get some business-class data plan to go with the Touch Pro. Should I request that with the freebie phone or can they even differentiate if I get a regular data plan and use it with a different phone? Kind of curious what steps your friend took when he signed up.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate your help. Importing an AT&T version from ebay would seem to bypass a lot of the headaches of reflashing the rom, and I have a foreigner registration card so making a contract with Docomo shouldn't pose any problems. This is exciting! I left the store so disappointed last week when they told me it the menus couldn't be switched to English.
Yo!
1. NTT docomo's touch pro is like all of ours and can change the language within your phones settings.
2. NTT docomo can roam on US's GSM network and whether it will take a US sim card you'd have to ask the sales rep(hopefully he knows what a sim card is, doubtful).
Japan and Korea are the 2 only countries in the world that can't be roamed to. They use a different system called W-CDMA, but do have GSM bandwidths in the phone itself and can and DO roam in the states. I have seen some NTT phones with SIM card slots that are being used here.(US) You might want to also check out Softbanks model and see who's Data charges are lower. Japan is notorious for Data charges. Both NTT and Softbank are the same network and phones are identicall (touch pro that is).
Anyways, thats my 2 cents.
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Yo!
1. NTT docomo's touch pro is like all of ours and can change the language within your phones settings.
2. NTT docomo can roam on US's GSM network and whether it will take a US sim card you'd have to ask the sales rep(hopefully he knows what a sim card is, doubtful).
Japan and Korea are the 2 only countries in the world that can't be roamed to. They use a different system called W-CDMA, but do have GSM bandwidths in the phone itself and can and DO roam in the states. I have seen some NTT phones with SIM card slots that are being used here.(US) You might want to also check out Softbanks model and see who's Data charges are lower. Japan is notorious for Data charges. Both NTT and Softbank are the same network and phones are identicall (touch pro that is).
Anyways, thats my 2 cents.
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Actually, I looked through the X04HT rom and it's missing most (if not all) of the 0409 (English) MUI files. Almost all of the apps include only 0411 (Japanese) MUI files. I'm sure it's the same with X05HT, as well as DoCoMo versions. You may be able to change localization to US (which will change the names of days/months and various units to English), but most of the text menus will remain in Japanese.
W-CDMA is the baseband, UMTS is the network system. In the US, AT&T also runs a W-CDMA/UMTS network. But DoCoMo and SoftBank run W-CDMA/UMTS 2100mhz, whereas AT&T runs W-CDMA/UMTS 850/1900 (in addition to GSM 850/1900).
These days you can bring any unlocked UMTS 2100-capable phone to roam in Japan. SoftBank even lets you rent SIM cards at ￥500/day if you're just making a short visit. But you are still right that you need to pay careful attention to your data usage, at least for the first month or any month thereafter if you make changes to your service, so that you don't unwittingly end up with a ￥50,000+ bill.
hey there! Wow, do you live in Japan? One thing ,how would I roam with a sim card from softbank? When I say roam I mean roam with my phone and my phone number. Also w-cdma is the regular radio network. UTMS is the 3G bandwidth. And I thought AT&T was GSM?
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hey there! Wow, do you live in Japan? One thing ,how would I roam with a sim card from softbank? When I say roam I mean roam with my phone and my phone number. Also w-cdma is the regular radio network. UTMS is the 3G bandwidth. And I thought AT&T was GSM?
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AT&T runs both W-CDMA (UMTS 850/1900) and GSM (850/1900) networks. Of course their GSM network has wider coverage. Any phone that does not have UMTS 850/1900 will fall back to regular GSM.
SoftBank SIM rentals are not intended for roaming. If you rent a SoftBank SIM, you will receive a Japanese phone number, and all calls and data connections will be made locally through SoftBank (as per their rental SIM rate plan). You can still make international calls but they will be charged at SoftBank's rates.
If you want to keep your original phone number, you do not need to rent a SIM card. Just keep your original SIM card in your phone. For example, if you have an AT&T SIM (and therefore a US phone number), your AT&T SIM will roam while in Japan. AT&T has roaming agreements with both SoftBank and DoCoMo, so your phone will simply connect to whichever network has greater coverage in the area you travel. You will be subject to AT&T's roaming charges, as detailed here:
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=392&MNC=CING
Of course, the only way to be able to roam in Japan is with a phone that supports UMTS 2100. As mentioned earlier, it is not possible to connect to eMobile (UMTS 1700), au/KDDI (CDMA), or Willcom (PHS) networks.
SoftBank X05HT
hi there! another newbie here. i'm living in japan and yesterday i purchased my SoftBank X05HT but wasn't told english was not available on it! being such a hi-tech piece of kit i really need to get english on it. i've been follow the advice given to Jonathan24 but being a novice i'm a bit concern that i will muck it up in some way. i understand that the japanese phone network is slightly different to european/american networks and am worried about installing a WWE rom. will my phone's services still fully function on the softbank network, S! Mail, 3g internet, etc?
Hi,
I moved from Germany to Japan 2 month ago, and brough my European Touch Pro (sim free version from HTC, not one of the T-Mobile sim locked ones).
I have a WWE rom flashed and run it on Softbanks network without problems.
My rom does not have S!Mail, but so far, I do not miss it.
One thing I have learned in Japan is, that people in tech stores like Bic Camera, or in mobile stores like Softbank or DoCoMo normally have no clue what they are talking about.
Whatever you ask, that is a little more than their standard, the answer you will get is: "That is not possible." 10min on google or here in the forum, and you will find a solution.
One thing that I am interested in is the radio rom which comes with Softbanks Touch Pro.
If anybody has it, please share.
Thanks.
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Actually, I looked through the X04HT rom and it's missing most (if not all) of the 0409 (English) MUI files. Almost all of the apps include only 0411 (Japanese) MUI files. I'm sure it's the same with X05HT, as well as DoCoMo versions. You may be able to change localization to US (which will change the names of days/months and various units to English), but most of the text menus will remain in Japanese.
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This is correct.
You can change Tocuh-Flo to English relatively easily - there is a patch on this site, cant remember where, but search will find.
I have a DoCoMo HT-01A (X05HT, Touch Pro). I dumped the orginial JP ROM to raw files, (haven't cooked it yet) and flashed using ROMeOS2_140_1_ENG_19974_15112008 with Raphael HardSPL first and then booting the ROM from the SD card. Flashing was a piece of cake.
I haven't extracted NaviTime, the GPS app, cause I downloaded Garmin and Japanese maps from a certain swash buckling place
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I haven't extracted NaviTime, the GPS app, cause I downloaded Garmin and Japanese maps from a certain swash buckling place
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In the X04HT ROM, NaviTime is included simply as a CAB installer (rather than OEM package). But I tested it and was not particularly impressed. Garmin has better routing, and PocketMapple has more detailed maps.
Oh, and Diamond TF3d Config will take care of the TouchFlo language setting (among all sorts of other tweaks) -- no need to search for the MUI patch.
brendino888 said:
hi there! another newbie here. i'm living in japan and yesterday i purchased my SoftBank X05HT but wasn't told english was not available on it! being such a hi-tech piece of kit i really need to get english on it. i've been follow the advice given to Jonathan24 but being a novice i'm a bit concern that i will muck it up in some way. i understand that the japanese phone network is slightly different to european/american networks and am worried about installing a WWE rom. will my phone's services still fully function on the softbank network, S! Mail, 3g internet, etc?
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Flashing a ROM does not change your phone's radio, so it will still be able to connect to SoftBank (calling, 3G internet, etc) just fine. You will be able to find more information on flashing a WWE ROM in the Touch Pro ROM section, but just to confirm, you will need to install HardSPL through ActiveSync, then choose a ROM and place the .nbh file on your microSD card, and follow the steps for hardresetting/loading new ROM.
Of course you will probably lose any 3rd party apps that come pre-installed with your phone, so you may need to use the Application CD that came with your X05HT to reinstall them. As for S!Mail, you should be able to download the CAB and reinstall it by accessing your My SoftBank page from your phone using Internet Explorer. Here are the instructions for the X01HT, but it should be similar for the X05HT. I recommend getting the S!Mail CAB and any other necessary files first before flashing a new ROM (or at least performing a full backup).
You should also make a note of the connection settings so that you can make sure they are correct once you flash a new ROM. In the past, SoftBank has used different connection settings for different rate plans (I don't know if it's still the case), and some people have used the wrong settings after flashing their ROMs only to be faced with a huge bill at the end of the month. So this is another fair warning to be mindful of your data usage for the first month (or any subsequent month after you make major changes to your phone) -- unless of course you are confident you're using the correct settings.
So I went ahead and ordered an unlocked AT&T Fuze off of Ebay last night and it's on its way to my family's house where they'll repackage and send it off to me. I thought I should confirm something while I still have the chance, however.
I'm a resident in Japan so rather than roaming, I'd like to be able to use this with a regular Docomo subscription plan. If I get that crappy starter phone and then switch the SIM out to the Fuze, will it work the same (same phone number/email address, etc) with a regular subscription instead of trying to roam? Are there steps I need take to ensure that it uses the radio/data plan in the same way, or is all of the information contained in the SIM?
Also, what would technically happen if I walked into the Docomo shop the day I made my contract and said "Hey, I already have this nice smart phone, can I just use this?"
Thanks again, especially to fhsieh! You're a lifesaver!
-Jonathan
Jonathan24 said:
I'm a resident in Japan so rather than roaming, I'd like to be able to use this with a regular Docomo subscription plan. If I get that crappy starter phone and then switch the SIM out to the Fuze, will it work the same (same phone number/email address, etc) with a regular subscription instead of trying to roam? Are there steps I need take to ensure that it uses the radio/data plan in the same way, or is all of the information contained in the SIM?
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The phone number will automatically be transferred to whichever device has the SIM. The basic network settings are contained within the SIM, and the Fuze contains an app (Start > Settings > Connections > Connection Wizard) that will automatically set up any additional connection settings for DoCoMo (the app is also part of most other TouchPro ROMs, in case you want to flash a different ROM). A DoCoMo SIM inside Japan will not roam.
You will have to enter email settings manually, but I have no experience with DoCoMo so I don't know if they use a specific app (like SoftBank does with S!Mail), or if you can simply enter it as a standard POP/IMAP account through WM6.1's default messaging app. Of course, with data access, you can simply tell your contacts to use your own email (and not a docomo email) for messaging -- you should not incur any additional charges for that.
For your reference, here is the full manual for the HT-01A:
http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/support/trouble/manual/download/pro/ht01a/index.html
One note: you may want to take a look at section 14: "データ通信／ワイヤレスLAN" (pages 171-186). It contains connection settings for DoCoMo's "mopera U" data plan. You may need to set it up accordingly if you subscribe to that rate plan. And on that note, I would suggest taking a look at which plans are intended for use with the HT-01A, and then choosing the cheapest phone that uses the same plan(s). You wouldn't want to just buy the "most basic plan" and be caught off guard with high data charges if the plan isn't intended for use with a data-heavy device.
If you feel adventurous, you might also buy one of the models that can be hypersim-unlocked (for use overseas) and sell it on eBay.
And a last thought: if you have multiple DoCoMo stores in your area, you may want to "test the waters". Some stores/clerks might give you the cold shoulder while others might be very helpful. Although IMO, saying "I already have this phone, can I just use it?" won't do much because either way they're not required to support non-DoCoMo phones (the worst that would happen is they might refuse to open an account thinking you're trying to circumvent their plans; at which point you could just go to another DoCoMo store). But you shouldn't need any extra help -- your cheap phone should have all the necessary connection settings, and it's just a matter of copying them over to the TouchPro.
DoCoMo Bizhodai Data Plan
The data network plan I was told I have to use with the DoCoMo HT-01A phone is called Bizuhodai. (Mopera U is their email plan.) I bought the phone and flashed an English ROM on it and now I can't get the phone to connect to the data network.
Any DoCoMo users able to flash an English rom and get it to work with the Bizuhodai data plan?
Thanks,
Can Anyone from India confirm if droid ultra xt1080 is working iIndia with gsm carriers like airtel Bsnl???
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Can Anyone from India confirm if droid ultra xt1080 is working iIndia with gsm carriers like airtel Bsnl???
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Yes, it works flawlessly. I am using it on Vodafone India.
AlanVenu said:
Yes, it works flawlessly. I am using it on Vodafone India.
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Did you activate on verizon first or activated it directly on vodafone please reply im planning to buy this from ebay geb and seller saysbits completely new and unactivated
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Did you activate on verizon first or activated it directly on vodafone please reply im planning to buy this from ebay geb and seller saysbits completely new and unactivated
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I don't think that it needs activation, since you are gonna use it for GSM. You will not be able to use it on CDMA though, needs to be programmed.
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Did you activate on verizon first or activated it directly on vodafone please reply im planning to buy this from ebay geb and seller saysbits completely new and unactivated
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Please DO NOT buy unactivated phones... It will NOT have GSM part open yet... My DroidMINI is lying useless due to that and my DroidMAXX is working great (MAXX is like new used one)...
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Here is another update.
Another XDA member got a new Droid Ultra last night. It did not work on GSM and it seems the activation on VZ got through (I don't know how). But when checked with VZ global support, they verified the phone and SIM are not associated with any account.
Anyway, GSM did not work. Then he tried Reliance GSM and it worked for a few minutes for calls and data.
Calls could be made and received. And then, suddenly there was an "invalid SIM" message.
So, who is blocking this? Verizon? or Reliance?
Another source tells me that the IMEI has to be cleared for international use. So VZ has to release this IMEI so that Indian companies can verify it to be genuine and not stolen, or invalid.
Now, the only way to get that done is with some insider contacts in Vodafone, Idea, Airtel or Reliance.
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I don't think it has anything to do with Indian operators... Everything has to be done from BigRed end, afaik... I don't think Indian telecos are following International database of BadEsn / IMEI...
This is all very strange... I THINK that the bad ESN is just relevant to verizon, and I also THINK that verizon is not involved in this. Or maybe they changed something. Also it is strange that for a while the phone worked and then not. I would call your provider and ask why.
It was clearly said that verizon is blocking only SIM for US carriers before. Also, HOW would they unblock it by registering in their network? If you connect to your local provier, verizon is completely out of the connection process. That would mean, that there is some software/firmware thing in our phones that is blocking it (read try unlock bootloader and flash another rom = last chance)
I traveled to India (Bangalore) a couple months ago. I used an Airtel SIM card while I was there, and it worked great. Of course, my phone had already been activated before I went.
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I don't think it has anything to do with Indian operators... Everything has to be done from BigRed end, afaik... I don't think Indian telecos are following International database of BadEsn / IMEI...
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XDA member Harsha has two Droid Ultras. One of them works and the other does not. So he took the IMEI's of both these phones to a local carrier Vodafone to check.
The working phone's IMEI was found in their database when they checked. The other one was not found - reported as invalid or not found.
I checked that one with Motorola after that. Motorola's database has Harsha's name against that IMEI. So, that database has got that entry.
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This is all very strange... I THINK that the bad ESN is just relevant to verizon, and I also THINK that verizon is not involved in this. Or maybe they changed something. Also it is strange that for a while the phone worked and then not. I would call your provider and ask why.
It was clearly said that verizon is blocking only SIM for US carriers before. Also, HOW would they unblock it by registering in their network? If you connect to your local provier, verizon is completely out of the connection process. That would mean, that there is some software/firmware thing in our phones that is blocking it (read try unlock bootloader and flash another rom = last chance)
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Unlocking bootloader and then flashing which ROM? This will just complicate the matter further, with Moto and Verizon both saying we have no role to play in this. They might not even help in troubleshooting further.
What I understood is that local carrier puts you on the network and in a few minutes, it realizes that the IMEI is not found/ invalid. So you are kicked off. That is why two people were able to use it for some time and then they were out.
I am not sure why data works for some of the guys though. It should not.
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I traveled to India (Bangalore) a couple months ago. I used an Airtel SIM card while I was there, and it worked great. Of course, my phone had already been activated before I went.
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Yeah. Activated phones work without problems.
No need for unnecessary speculations... If the phone is NOT activated in Verizon, then its GSM part can NEVER be used anywhere... PERIOD...
Further I checked (here) my working MAXX's IMEI and not working Mini's IMEI too. Both are saying valid...
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No need for unnecessary speculations... If the phone is NOT activated in Verizon, then its GSM part can NEVER be used anywhere... PERIOD...
Further I checked (here) my working MAXX's IMEI and not working Mini's IMEI too. Both are saying valid...
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Well, the IMEI on those overseas sites will show as valid since it is a valid device there.
But if you visit an Idea/ Airtel/ Vodafone store and ask them to check the two IMEI's you will find that the phone which does not work is reported as invalid IMEI.
Harsha has tried this with Vodafone, since he has two phones as well out of which one does not work.
Also, it is not true that if the phone is not activated, then it cannot be used on GSM anywhere. We have several reports on XDA where people have used brand new devices on GSM.
we Got gsm working if any one got gsm working let us updated
GSM now working for most phones
So, Motorola confirmed that an entire block of IMEI numbers was missing from the GSMA database.
While the cause for this is unknown, they were kind enough to escalate this to the GSMA authorities and get the IMEI numbers included.
Now, Indian carriers have synced their database and most carriers are working, but some are still not with some phones.
It is not clear what else is wrong with some of the combinations of phones, SIMs and carriers, but so far out of the five phones which were not working, four of them are working (out of those a couple are not working with one carrier).
Some phones are working with pre-paid carriers only and not post paid.
My phone is employee edition and still not working with Idea cellular.
In fact, after doing a factory reset yesterday, even Reliance CDMA is not working now. Strange.
My droid mini is now working fine with my regular Airtel postpaid nano sim.
Please share which operator Sims are not working.
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Droid series - some more missing IMEI blocks I suppose
So, yesterday, another person contacted me stating that he just got two Droid Ultra's (new, never activated) and these are not working on GSM.
With CDMA, the data does not work, but the calls work fine.
Now, I have consolidated a list of phones and the carriers against which they have been tested along with the type of SIM and the type of connection (pre/ post paid) and send this to Motorola.
Perhaps the new range of IMEI's is also missing from the GSMA. But I will get confirmation in a day or two on that part.
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So, yesterday, another person contacted me stating that he just got two Droid Ultra's (new, never activated) and these are not working on GSM.
With CDMA, the data does not work, but the calls work fine.
Now, I have consolidated a list of phones and the carriers against which they have been tested along with the type of SIM and the type of connection (pre/ post paid) and send this to Motorola.
Perhaps the new range of IMEI's is also missing from the GSMA. But I will get confirmation in a day or two on that part.
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Same Problem here.I got droid ultra red from ebay.
Tata docomo Cdma is working call and data 1x. evdo cant be checked as no network here
Reliance cdma is working with only calls not data at all.
first tried with Tata docomo gsm it was working gsm and 3g also now it says No service.
with Bsnl it is also showing No Service.
Debugging required
ansarirashidy2k said:
Same Problem here.I got droid ultra red from ebay.
Tata docomo Cdma is working call and data 1x. evdo cant be checked as no network here
Reliance cdma is working with only calls not data at all.
first tried with Tata docomo gsm it was working gsm and 3g also now it says No service.
with Bsnl it is also showing No Service.
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Hi,
I have now sent you instructions for debugging the issue via email.
If there are other users, I would urge them to contact me via PM and run the diagnostics.
s_u_n said:
Hi,
I have now sent you instructions for debugging the issue via email.
If there are other users, I would urge them to contact me via PM and run the diagnostics.
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Update:
Did a full FXZ install using House of Moto 2.0.
Then, did a four corner activation bypass as per the video here (which is for the older Razr Maxx.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYcZYZPGO2s
I don't know if that helped or the FXZ or both. After pressing corners first in landscape and in portrait mode, both, several times, I actually was able to skip the screen to some other screen.
After following the remaining prompts, it took around a minute to search for networks. I manually selected Vodafone IN and it took a few retries to register on that network (I have poor indoor coverage).
I tried with my regular service provider SIM and that one showed the network instantly.
No tried to update anything using WiFi so far.
need help
s_u_n said:
Hi,
I have now sent you instructions for debugging the issue via email.
If there are other users, I would urge them to contact me via PM and run the diagnostics.
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I bought a droid ultra on eBay and took it to costa ricaand when I put a local Sim card the device gets signal and mobile data works but I can't make calls or send SMS because it says nno service even I has signal bars
Has anyone used this feature? It was one of the reasons I got the phone - I'm planning on moving my landline number to the phone. AT&T said they don't support dual sims (if it works it works, if it doesn't - sorry!). So I thought I'd ask to see if anyone is using dual sims (preferably with AT&T) and how the experience is going .. thanks!
jaybirdhawaii said:
Has anyone used this feature? It was one of the reasons I got the phone - I'm planning on moving my landline number to the phone. AT&T said they don't support dual sims (if it works it works, if it doesn't - sorry!). So I thought I'd ask to see if anyone is using dual sims (preferably with AT&T) and how the experience is going .. thanks!
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I have two sims in it since day one - works great!
I made this little video of how Dual Sim cards works on this phone:
You can switch data source without taking sims out (in settings)
2 AT&T sims will work just fine - it does not matter who the carrier iss as long as phone can read the sim cards. I use two t-mobile sims. People here have both t-mo and AT&T sims in.
Can't help you when it comes to AT&T as I'm in Australia these days, but we've had mixed results. My wife has a Blu Pure XL and I use a OnePlus 2. Both of us have SIMs on Virgin (Optus reseller) and Telstra - mine are prepaid, hers are postpaid.
In her case, having both SIMs activated leaves her primary Virgin SIM nearly useless. She can surf the web but no other apps work over broadband (including Email, Hangouts, Location services). If she takes it to a Virgin store and finds a sympathetic employee, he/she can go and "reset the back end" of her account and everything starts working again - for about a day or so. Other employees simply check the settings and proclaim it's a software problem with her OS.
In my case, everything works normally - except when I'm at home. When at home I need to disable the Telstra SIM (data-only) on my OP2 in order for the Virgin SIM to work in any capacity. I've checked and my local tower supports 2G, FWIW.
Of course, Australia and the U.S. are not known for dual-SIM phones - they're more popular in countries where you can't rely on having coverage from any one company as you move about. It's arguable that dual SIM phones potentially cut into the market of any individual mobile provider, so I doubt you'll find anyone willing to support them.
I doubt any provider will actively block the feature, but if some quirk of their setup causes you a problem, you're probably on your own.
For what it's worth, I've seen both the OnePlus 2 and the Blu Pure XL use dual SIMs perfectly well. Just - not all the time!
Pardon my noobness, I will explain this to the best of my abilities
AT&T told me that my current phone Samsung S8+ will not work on their network (international dual sim unlocked version). They said that it is because "the 3G will shut off" but this phone is clearly a 4G phone. To be more specific, my device is a SM-G955FD. They sent me a replacement phone which is less than crappy and said my current sim will be deactivated soon.
I have already rooted (and ROM'ed) my phone - and I know you can change device identity/fingerprint using build props. I want to mask my phone as a SM-G955FU which is the USA unlocked version. At this point, I'd like to know if this could make a difference and make my phone not be deactivated by fooling their system, or if there are other things to try.
List of permitted phones
https://www.att.com/idpassets/images/support/wireless/Service-Capabilities-Unlocked-Devices-ATT-Network.pdf
Help appreciated,
I don't think they query device's brand / model property as stored in Android's build.prop file because these characteristics at any time can get changed by user.
The speed of data access relies on two things: your phone and your service provider. Every phone has a radio module that is responsible for talking to the network. It is this piece of hardware that either can or can not use latest communication technologies: if the phone does not support 4G, you will not get that speed whatever you try.
jwoegerbauer said:
I don't think they query device's brand / model property as stored in Android's build.prop file because these characteristics at any time can get changed by user.
The speed of data access relies on two things: your phone and your service provider. Every phone has a radio module that is responsible for talking to the network. It is this piece of hardware that either can or can not use latest communication technologies: if the phone does not support 4G, you will not get that speed whatever you try.
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Thanks, what is odd is that it should support it on several bands
Will Samsung Galaxy S8+ work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Samsung Galaxy S8+ with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
www.kimovil.com
The same thing happened to me today, woke up to a sim not registered message and no cell service (voice, sms or data).
I went to the store and they said my unlocked Moto G7 Power (XT1955-2) is not supported/compatible on ATT's network. I re-checked the phone's specs and it supports 4G LTE on bands 12 and 17 on 1900 Mhz which overlaps the data I found for ATT's network. I'm not well versed in this stuff tho. Perhaps it's a local towers thing and I am in an area where their towers are operating on the other ATT frequencies (1700, 700)? The guy at the store did something (I forget the exact details) and I do have voice back, but that is it, no data or SMS. He also mentioned that ATT is like cracking down on what kind of devices can connect. If ATT is blocking my device tho I'm curious, how is it possible? I guess they can lookup my device via the IMEI and then see if it's on their approve list of devices?
I don't understand their problem. Your phone model is listed as supported as long as you update your software to enable WiFi calling (VoLTE). Come 2/2022, you phone must either be 5G or VoLTE calling enabled to be supported. My Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s shows that it can do VoLTE under the sim card details in Settings and supports 13 LTE bands, including AT&T's bands. It should continue to work on their network after 2/2022.
Yet AT&T repeatedly disabled my phone. I had to tell them to re-activate my phone multiple times. I have tried some new phones. Turned out everytime I pulled the sim out to try a new phone and stick it back in my old phone, AT&T would check the phone's IMEI again and would disable the phone. On the 5th call with them, they put in a code/note in their system to mark my IMEI (be ware each sim tray has its own IMEI) not to be disabled until Fed 2022. I have since tried Surface Duo which on this list and decided not to keep it. Stuck the sim card back in my old phone specific sim tray and it continues to work.
Call them to re-activate/keep your phone active until Fed 2022. They have no rights to disable your phone before then.
Most A&T reps understand less than us on the reason to disable our phone. They jsut keep saying 3G phones will be disabled but our phoens are clearly LTE. VoLTE is one real reason of the problem but them our phones support VoLTE anyway. I am tired of arguing with them and am looking at a Note 10 now. But your situation got me concerned. Sounds like they may not honor the supported list which is updated frequently. I downloaded the June version of the list which is largely the same as yours and asked them how long they would support the phones on the list. They couldn't/wouldn't commit. Even on the phones they sell at their website, they would only give a vague promise to support them for "quite a while".
AT&T has always advertized BYOP. We spent big money on nice phones that are compatible with their network. And now the want to shut us out.