I had no problem pairing with my Holux 236slim external GPS but cannot locate the GPS when scanning for it using the Holux GPS View software, nor does MS Livesearch locate the GPS. Livesearch asks for a com port and I've tried them all with no success. Does anyone know which comport the Treo 750 should use? And what about the remote GPS settings which ask for both "program" and "hardware" com ports (which cannot be the same)?
The way that I understand it (from messing around, mostly) is that the "external GPS" program allows "sharing" of the BT signal by multiple programs. Here's what I did.
1) Pair the GPS via Bluetooth.
2) Set the GPS up as a comm port - BT, Settings, COM Ports, New Outgoing Port. I set my GPS up as COM 8, secure.
3) Next, go into the External GPS application. Set up the "Program" port as the port you'd like to scan from the mapping application - I used COM 0. Set up the "Hardware" port to match what you did in step 2 - in my case, COM 8, 4800 baud. Check the box on the "Access" page so you can share the BT GPS signal.
From whatever application you're using (Google Maps, WLS, or other), set up the application to look for the GPS on the "Program" comm port, in my case, COM 0. I've had WLS, GMM, and a program called "Beeline GPS" running all at the same time, sharing the same GPS.
Hope this helps,
-Craig
Thanks very much for your help!
Your solution worked like a charm -- thanks very much for your help. I used the same settings in External GPS. I'm using with Livesearch maps and that worked fine.
Try "Com 0", thats what I use with Tom Tom!
Hi everyone ... i have a big problem.
i use my HTC S710 ex dopod c500 as navigation equipemnt too
software i use is ROUTE 66 MOBILE 7 and gps bluetooth device Garmin GPS10
i not used it for a while about one month. Now i try to use but software tell me that cant estabilesh connection with GPS device. i try to reinstall software ... hard reset phone ... change rom ... but still not work ...
GPS device work cz i trye to conned it with navigation software on notebook and work well ....
I test mobile bluethoot tranfering files and work well ... he see GPS device and pair well ....
so ... why smartphone cant connect with GPS?
thanks everyones
Try with other software like Efficasoft GPS Utilities
I try with Efficasoft GPS Utilities as you told me ... but still not work. Software see my device, estabilish connection ... something happen : i can see altitude incerase and decrease ...
i dunno how to post here pic of my mobile screen ... any way this happen ...
only Alt. change ... N and E always 000000 Sat 6/0 some times 5/0 ... when i tun off gps ... GPS utilities give me error ... so mean mobile and gps in some way comunicate.
I try with TOM TOM ... not work too ....
i feel problem is in mobile's bluetooth configuration.
i try creating "new outgoing port" in mobile .... set com6 and com7 ...
same ... no work
really dunno why some weeks ago work perfect .. and now not
try again gps and notebook ... work perfect
plsss help meeee
i try again today ... driving car GPS on and Efficasoft GPS utilities on .... the only data i can get from satellite is Altitude ....
sat always .... 5/0 .... dindt get N and E
pls help meee ....
why before work .. and now not?
hi
you must name the gps "OTHER BLUETOOTH GPS"
when you sync it with the phone
it will work well with tomtom and other soft
I don,t know with tomtom but with Efficasoft GPS Utilities you must check in Menu->GPS Setup->AutoSearch Bluetooth GPS reciver, and see if there is your device, or choose manual your device.
After that don't forget to go to Menu->Start GPS
matrix77 said:
I don,t know with tomtom but with Efficasoft GPS Utilities you must check in Menu->GPS Setup->AutoSearch Bluetooth GPS reciver, and see if there is your device, or choose manual your device.
After that don't forget to go to Menu->Start GPS
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i try in this way exactly .... he find my GPS ... but after start GPS in main menu ... can get only altitude.
i just reinstalled HTC official ROM ... but still the same.
i changed navigation software with Garmin Mobile XT and maps from Mapsource.
work perfect ...
sunno why with garmim software work but other software nop.
My Gps module is garmin gps 10d ... maybe now work only with garmin software .. but i know before i used with tomtom and route 66.
anyway ... garmin mobile xt is good too
tnks
Good morning I have a probleme with Garmin XT and my HTC VOX it connect has my GPS but rest blocked on research satellite
install this cab and then try
View attachment enablegps.CAB
it has few registry tweaks enabling gps connection
this will help you connect
his step always not
I think your GPS programs might have been "fighting" for the GPS data or that it had bad epheremis data. It is recommended that with WM 6.1 and above to have the GPS "managed" by the system.
You do this by going from the Start Menu to Settings to System and select External GPS. Then you want to select the Port your programs will use to obtain GPS data. Normally the four lower ones were commonly used by most computer systems which is why I recommend selecting COM9 as the port.
On the Hardware tab, you need to identify which Port your GPS is on. I used GPSToggle, which is a Today plug-in, to start and warm up my GPS. You can read about GPSToggle here: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gps-toggle.html.
Download the CAB file which I recommend installing to your device internal memory. Then go to your Today screen and then to Settings menu followed by Today. On the Items check the box next to BAF GPS Toggle. Click okay and this will place GPSToggle on your Today screen.
Unfortunately most smartphones do not have dedicated GPS chips because they eat battery power. On a dedicated receiver like a Personal Navigation Assistant (handheld GPS aka PNA), the GPS is turned on automatically when the PNA is powered up. Depending upon when your GPS was last activated, a dedicated SIRF chip can go from cold-start to 3D fix in as little as 42 seconds and as long as three minutes if epheremis data is present and the GPS has not been moved more than 10 miles from its last power up.
For most smartphone users, the last time your GPS was fired up was when it was built in China or wherever. The GPS can retain that information as its old epheremis data which is used to communicate with satellites. If the data is bad and old, it can take much longer for your GPS to lock-on and get a 3D fix.
For this reason, it is recommended that on smartphones that a GPS utility like the ones mentioned above be used. In essence, the smartphone's GPS must be "warmed up" from a cold start state to warm state where it is communicating with satellites in resolving a 2D fix ultimately to hot state where 3D fixing is available.
GPSToggle on your Today screen will "warm up the GPS" for you when you turn it. You will then see bars indicating the number of satellites the GPS has found. Once it syncs with them, the bar will go solid. When four bars go solid, 3D fixing is available. At that point you could turn on your satnav program and should be good to go.
If you see the altitude and nothing else comes in then the BT connection is obviously ok, so pairing, establishing the connection via COM port and the program using the connection seems ok.
Your problem then is the GPS receiver not sending the data required.
Find a program that resets the GPS receiver, if you can remove the battery put it out for half a minute and reinsert it. Once the GPS has a satelite fix again it should deliver all data.
A good free powerful utility is SirfTech - obviously only useful if your BT Mouse has a SIRF chipset.
prajith said:
install this cab and then try
View attachment 82758
it has few registry tweaks enabling gps connection
this will help you connect
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Hello, was enablegps.cab developed here on xda? If so, is there a thread on it?
guys,
i don't know if you'll agree with me but i think that the lack of wifi makes the treo miserable; especially that most mobile providers charge stupid money for data packages - and those that don't (i.e. vodafone) block all the ports besides port 80 and make their data plans useless anyway...
that's why i'd love to be able to use bluetooth PAN to connect to either PCs or BT access points to get internet and network connectivity...
is there any way of adding the network cards thing and bluetooth PAN drivers?
or perhaps - does that functionality come along with wm6.1?
Try to figure out the right names.. because my ROM is italian and I'm writing the settings in the english translation...
You can set up the internet access to be done through the BT in this way (WM6.1):
- pair you device with the PC.
- on the device open menu->programs->ActiveSync
- on the device ActiveSync: menu->connect through bluetooth
a new COM port is generated in the PC by the BT stack.
- on the PC ActiveSync 4.5 panel, open File->connection settings
- flag enable the wireless connection of device when connected with desktop"
- flag enable the "allow connection to one of the device: COMxx"
where COMxx is the com generated by the BT stack.
Disconnect the BT and reconnect.
You should have a new connection on the device..
Now go to the device settings->connections->Advanced tab Network Selection
change the internet connection from ISP to local network.
That's it... now you'll be able to navigate with the device through the BT
http://www.pocketpccentral.net/help/palm/750_wifi.htm
Spectec miniSD WiFi card
Hello,
I could'nt find anything usind forum search regarding this topic, so I create a new one:
I am looking for a way to estalish an WLAN connection automaticly when a program wants to access the internet instead of establishing a modem/WAP/GPRS connection.
The idea: Some Programs like Satelite Update have an option "autoupdate every day at 4 am" or the option "check for new messages every hour" in Messaging.
If marked. those programs are trying to set up a modem connection configured in Settings/connections/Connections
Of course I disabled those (together with all autoconnect options inside those programs) so no program could dial out over an expensive Phone line, because I have everywhere free access to WLAN (at home, work,...).
But it would be nice to use those autoconnect features over WLAN, e.g. every morning before I wake up, the device downloads satelite update data and all email messages by enabling wlan on demand und disabling wlan after downloding everything.
Is there any way to configure a wm6 device to enable and use WLAN instead of a modem connection? Unter Connections -> New Connection there ist no WLAN available (of course there are just modem devices including bluetooth modem option).
Is there any 3rd party Software or trick? E.g. is there some kind of virtual modem that trigers WLAN instead of connecting oder GSM Module...?
best,
Sunny
strange.. the best forum for WindowsMobile Devices and noone knows a trick or software.
Well, seems it is really not possible... what a shame that MS didn't think at this possibility - especially in this modern age where WLAN ist nearly everywhere
best,
Sunny
I have a bluetooth GPS that I used to use some years ago with a GPS navigation application on my windows mobile phone (HTC BlueAngel, then HTC Elf).
When I switched for an Android phone (HTC Magic, then Acer Liquid), I was strangely unable to use it. It wasn't a big issue for me since both phones have an internal GPS. However, recently I bought a Samsung S galaxy, which GPS is barely usable...
I've searched something for using my bluetooth GPS, but I haven't found any open source application.
So I've developed one:
it' free,
it's open-source (you can verify what it's really doing and you can improve it!),
it just asks for needed permissions.
The application allows to use an external bluetooth GPS on Android devices:
The application starts a service, then connects to a Bluetooth device (NMEA GPS) and creates a mock GPS provider which can be used to replace the internal GPS.
It's also possible to log the external GPS NMEA data in a file on the device.
The app needs the following permissions:
bluetooth and bluetooth admin (connection to the GPS device),
location and mock location (replace the GPS location provider by a new one using the bluetooth GPS device),
write external storage (if you want to log the NMEA data into a file on the sdcard).
It should run on all android devices (2.0 and above) and NMEA bluetooth devices (there is now also a special version for Cupcake and Donuts - see below).
I have tested it with a GlobalSat BT-338 bluetooth GPS (SiRF III), a Galaxy S (I9000) and a HTC Sapphire (Froyo CM-6).
It works with Google Maps, Wikitude, GoPenS and my own personal navigation app. It should work with all applications that use Android official location API.
Note: in order to install the app:
enable Settings/Applications/Unknown sources,
enable Settings/Applications/Development/Allow mock locations,
download and install the apk.
Project page: Bluetooth GPS for Android on SourceForge
BlueGPS4Droid apk: BlueGps4Droid_1.2.6.apk for Eclair or newer.
BlueGPS4Cupcake apk: BlueGps4Cupcake_1.2.6.apk special version only for Cupcake and Donuts.
User guide an review (thanks to Leszek Pawlowicz): http://androgeoid.com/2010/09/android-external-bluetooth-gps-apps-bluetooth-gps-for-android/
I want to thank Globalsat U.S. which, kindly, has sent me, free of charge, a USB GPS and a replacement for my old bluetooth GPS, in order to support this work.
Change log
BlueGps4Cupcake 1.2.6 (2013-03-09)
BlueGps4Droid version 1.2.6 for Cupcake and Donuts - Do not use with Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread !!!
Bluetooth support is provided using the backport-android-bluetooth package: http://code.google.com/p/backport-android-bluetooth.
BlueGps4Droid 1.2.6 (2013-03-09)
Bug fix : correction in SiRF options summary description (English/French/Russian/Portugese/Spanish)
Bug fix : correction in NMEA checksum calcul
Bug fix : NMEA sentences without checksum weren't correctly parsed
Update copyright info in source and about app message
BlueGps4Cupcake 1.2.5 (2012-05-11)
BlueGps4Droid version 1.2.4 for Cupcake and Donuts - Do not use with Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread !!!
Bluetooth support is provided using the backport-android-bluetooth package: http://code.google.com/p/backport-android-bluetooth.
BlueGps4Droid 1.2.5 (2012-05-01)
Add Portuguese translation (thanks to rsantospereira (XDA: rikpereira) and meiji (XDA: meiji.emperor))
BlueGps4Cupcake 1.2.4 (2012-03-27)
BlueGps4Droid version 1.2.4 for Cupcake and Donuts - Do not use with Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread !!!
Bluetooth support is provided using the backport-android-bluetooth package: http://code.google.com/p/backport-android-bluetooth.
BlueGps4Droid 1.2.4 (2012-03-26)
Bug fix (Ticket #9: Handle NMEA timestamps without fractional seconds) (thanks to Jeffrey Hutzelman).
Update copyright infos.
BlueGps4Droid 1.2.3 (2011-09-08)
Add Russian translation (thanks to skleroz)
BlueGps4Cupcake 1.2.2 (2011-05-24)
BlueGps4Droid version 1.2.2 for Cupcake and Donuts - Do not use with Eclair, Froyo or Gingerbread !!!
Bluetooth support is provided using the backport-android-bluetooth package: http://code.google.com/p/backport-android-bluetooth.
BlueGps4Droid 1.2.2 (2011-05-14)
Add an option to force auto-activation of the chosen location provider (useful when the device defines a GPS provider but doesn't provide the preferences used to enable/disable it).
Update copyright infos.
Decrease the alleged power consumption of the bluetooth GPS (so now bluetooth GPS should consume less power than internal GPS).
Change default retries number before auto-closing BlueGPS4Droid.
Bug fix (Ticket #5: BlueGPS loops forever when SIRF is enabled but connection cannot be established).
Bug fixed (Ticket #6: Cannot add mock provider if it exists already).
Closing of bluetooth connection improvements.
BlueGps4Droid 1.2.1 (2011-01-20)
Add Spanish translation (thanks to Colegota: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10628971&postcount=55 )
Change launcher and notification icons. The new icons are inspired from "XlAfbk's proposition": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10277778&postcount=29.
BlueGps4Droid 1.2.0 (2010-12-10)
Add SiRF configuration management (NMEA sentences - SBAS - Static Navigation)
Add verifications: if bluetooth or mock locations are not enabled, the service is not started.
Add alert messages to explain why the service cannot be started if bluetooth or mock locations are not enabled
If device doesn't have an internal GPS, the bluetooth GPS provider is enabled automatically
Add an about window that gives the version of application, licensing information and where the sources may be downloaded.
BlueGps4Droid 1.2 alpha (2010-10-25)
SiRF configuration management (NMEA sentences - SBAS - Static Navigation)
BlueGps4Droid 1.1.2 (2010-11-04)
Add verifications: if bluetooth or mock locations are not enabled, the service is not started.
Add alert messages to explain why the service cannot be started if bluetooth or mock locations are not enabled
If device doesn't have an internal GPS, the bluetooth GPS provider will be enabled automatically
BlueGps4Droid 1.1.1 (2010-09-29)
Bug fix (Ticket #4: Connection service is not properly closed https://sourceforge.net/p/bluegps4droid/tickets/4/).
Add notifications when the connection with the GPS fails and when the connection service is closed because of two many connection retry.
Add settings to choose the number of connection retries before exiting.
BlueGps4Droid 1.1 (2010-09-26) - does not work properly because of bug #4. Use either version 1.0 or 1.1.1 !
Reconnect automatically when the connection with the GPS is lost (5 attempts in 5 minutes)
Replace Android default internal GPS or use a new location provider
Send status notifications when GPS loses fix or is disconnected.
BlueGps4Droid 1.0.1 (2010-10-25)
Add verifications: if bluetooth or mock locations are not enabled, the service is not started.
Add alert messages to explain why the service cannot be started if bluetooth or mock locations are not enabled
If device doesn't have an internal GPS, the bluetooth GPS provider will be enabled automatically
BlueGps4Droid 1.0 (2010-09-12)
Connect to bluetooth GPS (NMEA) and replace the internal GPS of an Android device.
Record GPS tracks in NMEA files
Compatible with Android version 2.0 and above
English and French translations
Localizing BlueGPS4Droid for other languages...
BlueGPS4Droid has been downloaded more than 25,000 times from more than 100 countries.
However, actually BlueGPS4Droid is only available in the following languages:
English
French
Spanish (thanks to Colegota: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1&postcount=55 )
Russian (thanks to skleroz)
Portuguese (thanks to rsantospereira (XDA: rikpereira) and meiji (XDA: meiji.emperor))
If you find it useful, help us to improve the translations and support new languages !
Thank you!
Man, you rock! I thought this is never going to happen!
You made my SGS with half-broken gps useable as I have spare Nokia gps unit that I bought back in E70 days.
Keep up your great job!
I'll give this one a try.. I've tried two others in the market, one I paid for (and is still pay-for) which technically works but doesn't reconnect well or at all. The other was pay-for and now is free, and it works FLAWLESS.
Doesn't hurt to try one more for fun. Plus, maybe this one will behave on tablets, as I understand the other two don't. I don't have a tablet yet to try though..
I'm interested in having my Android send GPS NMEA as a BT GPS unit. Seems like all the pieces are there in this project. Has the author considered this use-case?
Thanks,
Jae
jaebird said:
I'm interested in having my Android send GPS NMEA as a BT GPS unit. Seems like all the pieces are there in this project. Has the author considered this use-case?
Thanks,
Jae
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You're right, it's even simpler since you don't have to analyze the NMEA sentences.
However,
It' wasn't what I needed (sharing Galaxy S GPS is not really the best idea you can have... )
there is already several free (and open source) applications available for that purpose...
For an open source app see, for example, BlueNMEA here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553053
http://max.kellermann.name/projects/blue-nmea/
There is also GPS 2 Bluetooth which is free (but not open source) :
http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.cajax.gps2bt2/GPS-2-Bluetooth-v-2
http://www.android-software.fr/gps-2-bluetooth (review in french)
New version 1.2.0 is out
BlueGps4Droid 1.2.0
Add SiRF configuration management (NMEA sentences - SBAS - Static Navigation)
Add verifications: if bluetooth or mock locations are not enabled, the service is not started.
Add alert messages to explain why the service cannot be started if bluetooth or mock locations are not enabled
If device doesn't have an internal GPS, the bluetooth GPS provider is enabled automatically
Add an about window that gives the version of application, licensing information and where the sources may be downloaded.
Some real nice work, your package is very complete. It seems like not too many people have discovered your incredible asset to our Androids. Keep up the good work.
Wonderful! Keep up the good work! I'll be testing this all day tmr! Thanks!
How do you manage to add a new location provider?
Last time I checked the list was hardcoded in Android.
Marcus
Hi, thanks for a superb tool. Now I can use my bluetooth MTK chipset GPS a save my HTC Desire battery.
It is possible to add NMEA sentence to configure MTK chipset - like SiRF configuration management.
Thanks
David
Great, it was a little frustrating not being able to use my Bluetooth GPS with Android. There are several reasons to use external GPS: improved battery life, better precision, better sensibility... It's nice to be able to use an external GPS when needed. Thanks for your program!
igalan said:
Great, it was a little frustrating not being able to use my Bluetooth GPS with Android. There are several reasons to use external GPS: improved battery life, better precision, better sensibility... It's nice to be able to use an external GPS when needed. Thanks for your program!
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Will using an external gps really save on battery life? I thought having the bluetooth on would use as much power as that saved by turning off the gps.
Also, will this interfere with other applications that rely on the gps, or will they all use the external gps while this app is diverting it?
Can I leave the external gps in my car and have the phone only use it when I'm using it in my car for navigation?
EDIT: additional question: can the phone use two bluetooth devices at once? In other words, can I be using my bluetooth headset while the bluetooth gps is active?
Pete
Bluetooth uses way less power than a GPS. A Bluetooth GPS will run on its separate battery, so it will last 8 or more hours straight (depending on the chipset and battery capacity). Having your Bluetooth radio active won't have much impact on your phone, but try navigating with the built in GPS, it will eat the battery quickly.
You can have several Bluetooth connections at once, but most Bluetooth services can only have one connection: one headset, one stereo audio, etc.
I have a question.
It is theoretically possible to connect an external BT receiver with the phone's internal GPS receiver to several times increased the accuracy?
For example, if the GPS phone would be on the window and external BT receiver would be in the trunk, and we know its position relative to each other.
I want to use this but I have a silly problem. The battery in my BT-339 receiver is dead and I don't have a car charger for it. Anybody have a link to a cheap charger/replacement battery? Ideally, I'd like to get a usb cable for it that I can use in the car. Not sure the size of the barrel connector on it (4mm?). I used to use it with my Treo with a Seidio mount. The mount was powered and came with a power-out cable that charged the gps unit. So, I have a cable with the right barrel connector on one end and another male plug on the other. I also have an AC adapter. Ideas for best solution?
Otherwise, I love the idea for this software!
Jason
MarcusWolschon said:
How do you manage to add a new location provider?
Last time I checked the list was hardcoded in Android.
Marcus
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I'm using Mock Locations Provider API, which allows to replace an existing provider or to create an new one.
LocationManager.html.addTestProvider(...)
Dave.a said:
Hi, thanks for a superb tool. Now I can use my bluetooth MTK chipset GPS a save my HTC Desire battery.
It is possible to add NMEA sentence to configure MTK chipset - like SiRF configuration management.
Thanks
David
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Sure it could !
My bluetooth GPS is a GlobalSat BT-338 that has a SIRF III chip, so I had a special interest to be able to configure it...
NewYorkLaw said:
Will using an external gps really save on battery life? I thought having the bluetooth on would use as much power as that saved by turning off the gps.
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Normally the bluetooth battery usage should be lower than the internal GPS one...
See also Why Use An External Bluetooth GPS Receiver With An Android Phone? on the AndroGeoid blog.
NewYorkLaw said:
Also, will this interfere with other applications that rely on the gps, or will they all use the external gps while this app is diverting it?
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When you replace a locations provider, all the applications which use it should be affected.
NewYorkLaw said:
Can I leave the external gps in my car and have the phone only use it when I'm using it in my car for navigation?
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Why not ? I'm doing it myself...
NewYorkLaw said:
EDIT: additional question: can the phone use two bluetooth devices at once? In other words, can I be using my bluetooth headset while the bluetooth gps is active?
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It should, but it depends also on the quality of the bluetooth stack and driver.