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Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
TaurusBullba said:
Well, it looks to be official, HTC is rolling out WM6 upgrades for some of their devices (as we all may have heard). Here are the current devices that are initially planned:
HTC Advantage
HTC TyTN
HTC S620
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_.pdf
But, there is somewhat of a silver lining. If you read the .pdf in the link, it may not be limited to just those phones. There will be no upgrade fees for the carriers, so it's up to the carriers discretion to release the upgrade for whatever devices they deem "worthy". I would think the best way to go about getting it released for the Wizard would be to contact your carriers and request it. If they get enough requests, I can guarantee they'll make that upgrade available.
Despite having some great releases from some great chefs, it would make cooking that much better with an official OS release.
At any rate, CALL YOUR CARRIERS!!
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That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
papamopps said:
That has ever been my question in many threads. How similar are wizard and herald?????
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Quite different, unfortunately.
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Quite different, unfortunately.
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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I hoped to get a more special answer. When you take a datasheet of both - it is the same. Just the camera and teh thicknes. So what is really different. And if people can crossover a hermes rom to wizard it must be possible to crossover a herald to wizard. becuse it is same function than wizard.
So what is the difference?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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That's news to me. Who's been able to port WM6 from a Hermes over to the Wizard?
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
papamopps said:
All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
TaurusBullba said:
Well, sounds like I've been away from the Wizard forums for too long . I didn't know that mun's was pulled from a Hermes. Very interesting.
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"New OS build contains not whole files from tytn's rom, but more of them.
As i said before: camera is oem application and couldn't work on wizard. And i rebuild some modules from tytn's rom by myself to force it to work.
Im going to finish my tests of that rom, but i can say now that it has very good perfomance. It works like a charm.
Btw, it is unique rom. All roms that contains os 5.2.968 and the same build or rom version, will have my rom as base rom. So I am the first man who made t"
taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296743
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphon...roadmap-shows-at-least-a-june-wait-253805.php
Its going to be truth!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/
And here!
O2 UK says no...
Here is the response I received from O2 Data Support when I referred them to the announcement from HTC:
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Good Morning Terry
Thank you for your email
I am not aware at present of any Windows Mobile 6.0 upgrade options being made available for our XDA devices including the XDa Mini S in the very near future. Historically speaking O2 has only provided ROM upgrades on the existing OS and has never provided OS upgrades on any of the XDA devices. Please monitor the website link attached below for future upgrades.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards
Haroon Sacha
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If you want to try and change their mind, e-mail [email protected].
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All WM6 for wizards are based on a hermes AM6 and mixed up with wizard stuff - mun does it for his base rom. MAny people now are developing this mun rom.
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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That's not true my friend... The Faria ROM is a REAL Wizard WM6 ROM, trust me! Was not ported!
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Maybe. But all based on mun are not real WM6 - and perhaps i´m one of the "I don´t believe someone´s telling until i see"-people. But Faria mention a lot what he knows and what will come.
We will see.
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Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Gee, what did we do before mun????
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Just stop it here - ok. Some people prefere that some that. OK? But I think there are so many discussion meanwhile about what is written and what not - that it is obviously that time goes on?!
hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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hey
how about, everybody on here gets together and 'badgers' or (requests, to put it nicely! ) a specific operator for the rom update?
rather than 10 people each asking 10 diff operators, lets just get together and ask one, would be more likely, and either way, once we have one official update in our hands, thats all we need really!
how bout it then chaps?!(and chap-esses)
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That seems like a good plan to me. What operator did you have in mind? We should probably pick one that has traditionally been more open to upgrades in the past. That would definitely rule out Cingular/ATT here in the US.
Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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Also, papamopps, give Dr. P. some respect and credit on the issue of what OS is based on what device. If anyone would know, he would.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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I don´t wanted to blame anyone - espacially no Dr. P - I know he is a guru.
I only have some little problems with Faria´s behavio the last time. And i´m not alone with this.
Btw they´re doing great WORK and we all need it. Thanks to any Rom-cooker.
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No offense was taken by me. As for Faria, yes he can be a little *****y, most genius's are.. Please realize though that he DOES "butter our bread", along with others. And he DOES endure a lot of nonsense and crap. Myself, I wouldn't have come back after some of crap that he (and me in a VERY small way) have taken here.....
Now, back to the OP! I doubt that Cingular is going to be of any help, morons... I WILL say that I've seen more come from T-Mobile regarding official updates with the Wizard (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
I would vote for T-Mobile too. O2 suck for updates.
Hi Tornadians how u doing,
by now we have found multiple Rom of WM6 by our Expert Users
Lets Rate Which one is bug free and very very stable.
let us know your Experience
Dude, it's Microsoft Windows. Any version is neither stable nor bug free!!!
i m either Apple Certified Technician and use to work on Mac Platform but unfortunately bought Tornado i am happy with tornado but not with Windows and i m keep updating it. so i can solve it.
i put my problem in other thread "WM6 SCREEN GOES OFF IN 5 SEC"
please senior member solve this issue
WM6 For Tornado - HTC Edition
Why don't you start a Poll !
My vote goes to NiTroGen's greek ROM...
The best out there is:
WM6 English 5.2.1616.18120 by NiTroGen.
It has the new build on and interesting features from andot's ROM.
Andot's ROM is very unstable.
Everybody seems to have their own opinion. No consensus yet!
My vote goes to HTC Edition.
Been using it for weeks (Ver. 1, did most of the tweaks manually that are in the 2nd ed.) and it's been very stable and I don't think I've found any bugs or glitches.
Phil's beta would come 2nd on my list, however it's way behind HTC Edition by now.
anyone wants to create a poll for this? so no one is gonna keep asking which rom is more stable or better?
to all the cookers, makerz or editorz, all of you have done a great job !
Poll would be pointless since it needed redoing everytime a rom get's updated.
But what'd be nice is a sticky with a comparison chart, moderated by a forums moderator. So the creators could just send the essential info regarding their latest release so the mod can update the chart.
WM6 ROM cooking is not a competition. There is no "best" ROM atm and there will never be. Each ROM has its own characteristics and suits to different people and needs!
IMHO, there should be a cooperation of all cookers (or non-cookers), so we'll finally have the best WM6 ROM available for our phone; the WM6 for Tornado XDA-developers Edition.
So, how about closing this thread and starting a new one with hints/instructions on adding new features to our ROMs, fixing existing bugs , customizing and cooking our own ROMs? How about a Pimp My WM6 ROM discussion?
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WM6 ROM cooking is not a competition. There is no "best" ROM atm and there will never be. Each ROM has its own characteristics and suits to different people and needs!
IMHO, there should be a cooperation of all cookers (or non-cookers), so we'll finally have the best WM6 ROM available for our phone; the WM6 for Tornado XDA-developers Edition.
So, how about closing this thread and starting a new one with hints/instructions on adding new features to our ROMs, fixing existing bugs , customizing and cooking our own ROMs? How about a Pimp My WM6 ROM discussion?
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i agree with your point mate!
Well, at least now what we can do is to improve each other's ROM, since all of us are from different time zone
@Nitro just wanted to say that i never used the word "best" lol, i used better! i agree with you though, about you cookers working together to create perfect rom!
Well how about an informative post for the ROMS.
Maybe ROM listing then all bugs and what works what doesnt so then the cookers can take parts of each others roms tto make the perfect ROM ?
Just an idea
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The best out there is:
WM6 English 5.2.1616.18120 by NiTroGen.
It has the new build on and interesting features from andot's ROM.
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Agreed, I am running this one and am very pleased. Been 3 weeks now.
Now I've just flashed EA's ROM (same build as NiTroGen's one) .
It has a lot of new options in Settings (. Just the Start Menu options (from NiTroGen and andot's ROMs ) is missing.
It has 19.64MB free storage space after the first reboot. But it does not have bundled some useful apps such as: LowLight, WM5torage..
Ah, and EA's one doesn't have Wireless Manager in the QuickList . I personally like Wireless Manager.
DSF said:
The best out there is:
WM6 English 5.2.1616.18120 by NiTroGen.
It has the new build on and interesting features from andot's ROM.
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So for people currently running Andots rom would you say its worth the swith over to this rom ?
What is noticable different ?
Does the Media playser still work perfect like andots ?
Hi all,
Well we have decided to give you all a final rom release from us both.
We thank you all for your support and appreciation of our work whilst on the Uni forum.
We will update this thread with more info as we progress the rom.
Hope you all enjoy it.
We will cook the usual three flavours as we have in our previous releases.
Vanilla, as basic as possible, with only the necessary apps cooked in.
Business, as above with usefull Business apps cooked in.
Full Flavour, tweaked as much as possible with all the apps we can fit, updated themes, icons, dialers, sips, graphics and more.
Stay tuned for more information.
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View our previous work
MOD please can you sticky us.
Cheers,
Beasty
Great! What build are you going to use?
Great news!!!!!!!!
Dear beasty & Laurentius
This is really great news!!
I´m sure a lot of people will also very happy with the best news Universal foruma had in a lot of time!!
Hope this final ROM is based on wm6.1
Best!
Video call Work!!?????
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Video call Work!!?????
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No promises, but we will do our best to finish off the work we started on Video Call, it was us that brought outgoing VC to the WM6 Unis, and we were very close to finishing incoming VC work too.
We will try our best to finish this off in our final release.
WM6.1 with latest stable OS.
Cheers,
Beasty
Yes, but we need to start from scratch.
Base must be a shipped Uni rom because of device drivers I think.
Build number we can take any. Also XIP is a easy port.
So many new tools and applications are Developed meanwhile.
But... I have some kitchen experience, a lot more then when I started with Uni.
It would be great to work with you again, I'm looking forward.
And let's hope we can make videocall work this time in wm6.1!
Grtz,
Leo
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No promises, but we will do our best to finish off the work we started on Video Call, it was us that brought outgoing VC to the WM6 Unis, and we were very close to finishing incoming VC work too.
We will try our best to finish this off in our final release.
WM6.1 with latest stable OS.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Great news! Thanks, we will be waiting!!!
wow, way to go for the effort to keep the best device still up and running.
beasty & leo.. i'll see you in a few monthes at the touch pro forum
good luck with the new rom, my friends!!
Thank You so much, guys, can't wait! I am keeping a spare Uni intact waiting for your work.
I have a few devices, one of them is HTC Elf. Flashed the latest Onyx 3.0 ( http://d.imagehost.org/0924/Main.jpg http://d.imagehost.org/0718/MainJr.jpg ) ROM on it a few days ago and so much in love with the look, would give anything to have similar working ROM on my Uni - it's like having a completely new toy to play with again. *HINT HINT*
So good to hear ! Thanks !
128 ram thanks
My eyes are filled with happy tears. I really hope that you guys could finish up the video call thingy.
Thats a great news. Finally the one has arrived
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Hi all,
Well we have decided to give you all a final rom release from us both.
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this mean you will stop cook for us??
U r the best
Thanks 2 make VC working on WM 6.1
I can't wait 4 that.
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this mean you will stop cook for us??
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Are you new?? oh yes I see, please try to READ the threads on Universal forum, that way you´ll notice that our dear friends have a long time in other devices forum. And they are not cooking for us....
And VC, they had not promised at all.
I think we should be happy with the fact they are going to develop a final ROM, however this is I´m sure it will be great!, let´s not start asking for more and more stuff!
Let the masters do their own
Thanks Beasty & Leo,
Loved your choice of Vanilla/Business/FullFlavour.
Can't wait to see what you come out with this time!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Anhs4SQrS5A&eurl=http://gadgetmix.com/index/?p=2936
or is it some 3rd party program and he's pulling out leg?
I think it is!
In BA section they are developing a 6.5 ROM!!
Hope soon we can have it for other devices!
Also, this was featured on NeoWin.net and the rom in question is here on XDA. I havent really had a look myself, and could only find out if it was ported to the kaiser. But looks nice wether its official 6.5 or not.
Hello
Tomal has requested for us to vote if we are interested in a WM 6.5 rom by him, so let him know by voting now please. Just remember this is still a very buggy rom and not yet on official release so it may be stopped!!!
Regards
Jay
responderman said:
Hello
Tomal has requested for us to vote if we are interested in a WM 6.5 rom by him, so let him know by voting now please. Just remember this is still a very buggy rom and not yet on official release so it may be stopped!!!
Regards
Jay
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I understood that the poll Tomal sugested were to see if many people want a ROM in spanish.... I´ll create that poll
Anyway I already voted for the 3rd option.
Cheers,
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I understood that the poll Tomal sugested were to see if many people want a ROM in spanish.... I´ll create that poll
Anyway I already voted for the 3rd option.
Cheers,
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Yes I realise that, but I thought it was more important to see how people felt about WM 6.5 in general first. If Tomal can make it run well already then Great, but there isn't much point if people are happy to wait if you catch my drift?
Regards
Jay
I'd love to see a new wm6.5 rom.
His 6.1 roms are perfect as is!
Ummmmmm......interest for WM6.5 getting increased!
Tomal WM 6.5 Rom - A good one!
Hi!
I think Tomal should tweak this ROM and make it more useful. Have been using the ROM and started to loving it. Though it has bugs and need often resets yet it can be made much more better with some effort.
Tomal, please do spare sometime and make it better for us to use.
Regards,
Haque
O2 XDA EXEC
Tomal WM 6.5 beta
I voted for "Wait until it is more stable", because the effort Tomal has to bring, is useless IMO. This is a beta-version and not that stable right now as users want it to be.
I use my cell phone for private things & business. So I need a fast and stable ROM like Tomals great 6.1'ers.
I have no 2nd Uni, only for playing and testing where I can say "Wow...look here: WM 6.5 Beta. I'm the king..."
Thanks Tomal for your great ROMs, but IMHO you should wait, without waisting too much time for a buggy ROM. THe time will come, but not now...
can Tomal stop to play with WM6.5 ?
I think he will get fever if he did
... i hope i'm right
if Tomal can make it stable why we should wait ?
wm 6.5
If you please,Tomal, make the best 6.5 rom for our old universal
Yes!
Yes, definately interested. Tomal v8.5 is one of the greatest pieces of software ever crafted. If you could apply that sorta magic, speed, responsiveness to WM 6.5, wow. Uni rocks!
WM 6.5 is of course already set for finger friendly UI, decent browser and all that, so you even wouldn't need to build much custom touch focused menus and that sorta thing. Hope to see this!
Just my damn screen broke. Lol. Flex cable musta snapped. Working on it...Damn, my other is a JAM, but I miss the keyboard for IM.
See the first look of 6.5 on pocketpcthoughts.com. Looks very neat.
Reflexion:
Why mostly the newbies ask for a 6.5?
Why they refer to Tomal as if they were old friends?
Just my personal reflexion, no ofense to anyone...
Good day,
LET´S PUT SOME VOTES! WE ARE JUST EVEN WITH KAISER
Yesterday WM 6.5 was officially presented in Barcelona, Spain. The question "When will WM 6.5 show up?" was answered by Ballmer with "Somewhere this year".
I hope Tomal will stay at his WM 6.1-projects. But in the end it is his own decision.
indrastrid
if Tomal can make it stable why we should wait ?
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Because it is a leaked beta?! Spending time on final versions is more reasonable IMO.
Well... now that Tomal is working on 6.5 and beta1 is out this poll become usless I think
No ofense of course!
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Well... now that Tomal is working on 6.5 and beta1 is out this poll become usless I think
No ofense of course!
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While I'll continue to try out the various 6.5-esque builds, I won't be planning to use them for prime-time until *after* a final-version 6.5 of *something* has been released and reverse-engineered.
IMHO, while development/testing time isn't a waste, because it will build experience with what's possible, at least, it certainly is let's say 'naive' to expect to have a fully-working, perfect port of something that's only in beta to start-off with!
Remember - the final WM6.5 hasn't even been released to the manufacturers yet!
-PJC
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While I'll continue to try out the various 6.5-esque builds, I won't be planning to use them for prime-time until *after* a final-version 6.5 of *something* has been released and reverse-engineered.
IMHO, while development/testing time isn't a waste, because it will build experience with what's possible, at least, it certainly is let's say 'naive' to expect to have a fully-working, perfect port of something that's only in beta to start-off with!
Remember - the final WM6.5 hasn't even been released to the manufacturers yet!
-PJC
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Yeah, I´m aware of it, anyway my thoughts are the same on that subject
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Yeah, I´m aware of it, anyway my thoughts are the same on that subject
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The 'naive' quote wasn't directed at you, apologies if you thought it was, but at all those 'newbies' who seem to be continually voting for tomal, etc, to keep on going with 6.5 ROMs *now* <sarcasm>and where is the video-call</sarcasm>
Whatever happened to the FAQ that was mooted for this board, which would start off with "NO, there is NO working video-call on WM 6.x !!"...
PJC
It would be a pity if Tomal works on an instable OS. So I voted to wait until a more stabel one comes up.
When it does, Tomal should work on it immediately, so I can have a 6.5 ROM the day after its release
ok, ok, I will let him work on it as long as he needs. Just hope he can make a professional ROM from the overblown funny ROM which has much too much programs in it.
(ROM designers forgot the difference between OS and separate programs; I would love to see a really bare OS with much file memory free so I can install my own programs.)
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The 'naive' quote wasn't directed at you, apologies if you thought it was, but at all those 'newbies' who seem to be continually voting for tomal, etc, to keep on going with 6.5 ROMs *now* <sarcasm>and where is the video-call</sarcasm>
Whatever happened to the FAQ that was mooted for this board, which would start off with "NO, there is NO working video-call on WM 6.x !!"...
PJC
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No worries!
I just wanted to leave clear my opinion
Cheers firend,
i,m using WM 6.5 on my touch diamond and so far its proforming at a stable rate.....everything working so far......still checking and i,ll post if any bugz fly in on me
kings121 said:
i,m using WM 6.5 on my touch diamond and so far its proforming at a stable rate.....everything working so far......still checking and i,ll post if any bugz fly in on me
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Wrong forum mate
This is Universal forum
Anyway thanks...