Looking for PIM for Win CE5 (I'm new ... go slow!) - General Topics

Chaps,
I'm new 'round here (first post), and I am not that clued-up on PDA and Windows CE terminology and suchlike. However I have a technical background, so will probably get along OK.
I have a Fujitsu Siemens Loox N100 (see link here.) I bought it as a Sat-Nav system, but have since discovered that you can unlock it and reveal the underlying Windows operating system. It claims to be Windows CE v5.00.
Having managed this, I have loaded various bits of software onto it, including TCPMP (MP3 player) and SpreadCE (Pocket Spreadsheet program.) Both of which work very well, and I am very happy with them.
I now want to find both address book and diary software, thus allowing me to use the machine as a PDA. However, I simply can't find anything to fit this bill - it seems that if you buy a PDA with WinCE on it, it also comes with Pocket Outlook, allowing you to do both these things. I don't have this software, and therein lies my request.
Is it possible to get hold of CAB files for Pocket Outlook, to solve this problem? Or, failing that, can anyone recommend a suitable PIM application that will both keep track of contacts for me, and run a personal diary? (If these sync with Outlook on my desktop PC that would be the icing on the cake, but it is not essential.)
Does anyone have any suggestions for suitable software for these tasks?
The other option is to use SpreadCE to write something using Excel functionals. I may be able to cook up a reasonable address book like this, but a diary would be beyond me!
Thanks for any help!
Oli.

Quick update ...
.. searching on here has thrown up "My Calender v1.5", which looks ideal for the diary part of the problem, but when I load it and run it I get the message (on the pocket device) "Fail to load CLSID".
Any ideas?
Thanks, again.
Oli.

Sorry, I am not familiar with any PIM software that will work on Win CE.
The devices we deal with here run Windows Mobile. Though it is based on Win CE (same kernel) it has a few additions on which most of the apps (fortunately not all) depend.
There is no such thing as cab for pocket outlook.
There is one thing I can recommend:
Search for "opening MIO C550". Someone created a cab for that device (unfortunately it runs CE 4.2) that adds ActiveSync to it and some dlls (like aygshell.dll) that Win Mobile apps need to run.
It also has some utilities though I am not sure about PIM.
I think this might work for you (at least you will be able to run a wider range of apps).
Oh, and the error you are getting is probably due to a missing COM object. Nothing to be done about that.

Levenum,
Thanks for your reply. It was helpful.
Your comment about Windows Mobile and Windows CE is very helpful. I thought that Windows Mobile and Windows CE were the same thing - different names for the same software. Thanks for clearing that up - apologies for ignorance. The fact that there are some things on Windows Mobile that are not on Windows CE may explain why some of the software I have tried hasn't worked.
I will try the "Opening MIO C550" search as you suggested. However, I can run Windows ActiveSync on the N100 as it is. (Although that's about it!) I'll post up here with details of how I get on ...
What do you mean by a "Missing Com Object"? What is a Com Object? You suggest that there is no way of fixing this - shame, as My Calender looks just about ideal for what I want to do!
Thanks again for your help.
Oli.

Please receive my apologies. I gave you incorrect model. There is no C550.
Mio P550 is a full PDA, but Mio C510 is a PND.
Any way here is the link, judging by the screenshots it has some kind of 'contact' app. Hope it helps.
'COM object' is a programming term. M$ invented the system and it is very problematic when moving programs around.
As you may know almost all windows programs rely on some DLL files in addition to EXE files as well. Those DLL files are programs too but they do not run by them selves but only offer functions to be used by other programs.
The idea was that if there is a common function, like say opening a window it would be in a DLL and instead of every programmer rewriting it in his code he would just call the function.
COM objects are stored in DLLs too but accessing them is more complicated. For one thing, its not enough for the DLL just to be there (like with normal DLLs) but it needs a registry entry. Have you ever dug through the registry and seen the CLSID key that has many sub keys that look like this: {a1234678-1234.....? Most of them are COM objects.
Virtual keyboards are implemented as COM objects on WM.

Levenum,
Thanks again.
It looks like I am onto a losing streak with this. I tried the details as described for the Mio C510, but to no avail - it doesn't work on the N100.
COM Objects ... thanks for the explanation. Am I right in understanding that the problem I have is a missing DLL file, when I try to run MyCalender? Would it be possible to put the relevant DLL file onto my machine? My Calender looks very much like the sort of thing I am looking to run, and I am frustrated at being so close to running it!
Failing that, does anyone else know of any PIM software that might run on WinCE?
Thanks again,
Oli.

Actually, what the error means is you are missing some registry entries.
It is most likely those entries are pointing to a DLL but there is no way of telling which DLL without knowing what the app looks for in the registry.
By the way, you do not need to follow all the instructions there.
You just need to get the cab and manually install it (I understand you can access file explorer on your device).
If that does not work, then sorry I am out of ideas.

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Where to get device lock application available on Wizard

Hi All,
My friend has just bought a Wizard and I noticed that it has a nice little device lock application on the home screen. Does anyone know where I can get this little app
for my XDA II running WM 2003 SE?
Cheers,
Richard.
Is it possible to rip this app from the WM 2005 Wizard ROM somehow?
I checked one of the EXT_ROM images I found but couldn't see anything obvious
in there. Could it be built into the main ROM perhaps?
cheers,
Richard.
We tried before to find the file responsible for this utility, so we could be able to bind it to a hardbutton and take it off the todayscreen, but no luck. No-one knows what file is responsible for this app. sorry guys.
the registry points to "shutil.dll" - I suppose this is a fairly generic shell utilities DLL, but as there is no further 'entry point' data in the registry, just hooking that up as a Today item should automatically provide the required data ? Unless it polls an additional DLL, of course, but a resource explorer check of that DLL (if you can copy it) should be able to point any of that out?

MDA compact II Games

Hi guys,
(I have searched for this and similar topics so my apologies if I'm duplicating)
Bought my Compact about a month ago with T-mobile UK and am only just opening my eyes to its possibilities!
Thanks for all the information on web n walk etc.... i'll be signing up tomorrow!
I have just been on pocketgear.com and have seen all the games a pocket PC can use..... so I downloaded a trial version of a poker game (as is fashionable these days it seems!), but once transferred to my phone it wouldn't work.
Got the error message '[game] is not a valid pocket PC application'
So I tried Bookworm... and got the same message.
Am I doing something wrong, or is it because I downloaded it from an American Website to an English phone?
Any (and I do mean any) help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I haven't tweaked my phone in any way or improved it at all, so any further hints and tips would be appreciated too!
Cheers
J
When you DL software for your device, make sure that you DL software that is designed for your device. If you DL Pocket PC 2003 Software, and you are using a Windows Mobile 5.0 device, the software may NOT work on your device - also, if you are using a older device, you need to be aware that some software is designed for certain types of processors - so if you are using a PDA with an ARM processor, you have to DL software that will run on an ARM processor - not software that is designed for a MIPS processor. The newest devices all use the same processor (as far as I know) - but if you DL older software to run on the newer device, you will have to use software that was originally designed for anARM procesor. This may seem a little complicated, but the best way to find out how this works, is to go to a software distro site (like Handango), and download the different versions of the same software, and then install them. Hope that helps!
Black-wolf
Well, I think it is just plain bad luck. I've downloaded and install.. quite a large amount of software/games to test on my MDACompact2 and most of the software that said to be meant for WinCE, WM2003, SE, etc works well with WM5. I can say, in my experience, the chances of getting one not working in WM5 is like. 20% or less. So, keep trying
Hi onemanfloats!
Did you download an exe file an copied it directly to the device?
If the download is an exe that means it is an installer and needs to be run on you PC while the device is synchronized. Most PPC programs are distributed this way.
Also programs for PPC some times come as cab files. Those you have to copy to your device and tap on them in the explorer so they will install.
As for processor type - don't worry, all devices sold today come with ARM, or ARM compatible (like OMAP) processors, and most of the new software supports only that type.
As for OS, I'm not sure if your device is running Windows Mobile 5 or Windows Mobile 2003, but as far as games and ordinary programs go, if it works on 2003 it usually works on 5 (2005).
The only problem is with some utilities which are very OS dependent.
Finally let me recommend you this site:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com
Tons of free stuff for you device.
Good luck.
ms should make pda's error msg
tell the user that it's a pc application they are trying to
run on the pda
tons of ppl get confused but this
The "not designed for" message on WM2003 only meant that the application perhaps didn't support screen rotation, and other resolutions than 240x320
It's a bit off topic, but the warning "This program may not display correctly..." pops up on every program whose installation cab supports OS lower the 4.21 (that's WM 2003se in plain English ).
According to MSDN that's because the OS assumes the program inside can't support VGA, screen rotation and square.
It's pretty stupid design since a lot of programs try to be backwards compatible, at least to WM 2003, and the message just scares users.
It's a good thing they got rid of it in WM5.
cheers guys,
just got back from a tiring weekend in snowdon and read your replies.
Will digest in the morning and see what I can do!
Thanks again for your help!

How to make Pocket PC 2003 input software work on WM 5? (Celluon Laserkey)

I'm pissed. I ordered the Celluon Laserkey CL800BT as a mobile keyboard. But it appears it still has not had drivers/installation software created for WM 5. Nowhere on the seller's website did it mention this very critical piece of information. The Celluon website utterly fails to even mention the existence of WM 5 as something they either support or don't support, it's like they're stuck in 2003.
So, the question is... Is it possible to get this thing working on WM 5? I'm not sure if the input panel changes from 2003 to 5 are so big that the drivers supplied won't work or if it might be possible to just fiddle with the registry keys enough to get it to use the 2003 drivers. I figured out that certain registry structure changes were made in how the input software gets listed and so I tried to "upgrade" the entry for the Laserkey and that got the "Projection Keyboard" appearing in the list, but when I select it it just switches to the built-in WM keyboard input.
So, please, all you super clever people, help!!!
Quincy
Wow, that's a neat product. Thing is there is no difference in software keyboards between WM 5 and 2003 but what you have is a hardware keyboard that connects via BT.
If the drivers don't work it means they don't support your devices hardware or BT stack.
Unfortunately short of writing new drivers i do not see a solution to this.
I assume you tried installing it using the WM 2003 setup?
If it doesn't work i think you should ask for your money back.
Thanks, yeah, I tried the install for PPC 2003 and that completes, but as I mentioned the "Projection Keyboard" option in the SIP list does NOT appear. So I figured how what registry tweaking would make it appear but selecting it doesn't work. I changed the registry to point to the DLL I presumed should be called (there were only 2 that came with it, and I tried both) but nothing. I assume the SIP hooks into the DLL/etc. have changed from 2003 to 5.
It is an amazing product, if only it worked. Celluon must be in bad shape or something for them not to have current drivers (I contacted their tech support and have not heard back yet...). There are few things more annoying than having in your hands something that is amazingly cool and having absolutely no ability to use it.
I talked to the seller and it looks like they'll take it back, but I'm stunned they wouldn't have a big warning or at least a little warning/mention of the fact that it won't work on the current PPC OS.
So, warning to all, don't buy the Celluon Laserkey if you've got WM 5!
Quincy
One thing I just thought of, probably should have mentioned it before (this is really stupid of me):
Maybe the DLL you are messing with is not a SIP DLL at all? This is a hardware keyboard and it should work no matter what software keyboard is selected.
So try to do a clean installation (so your registry tweaks won't get in the way) and just open Word for example and type.
Also maybe it needs parring or some special BT settings?
Good suggestion, Levenum. I don't know exactly it is supposed to work, but I do know that you use the SIP selector to choose the "Projection Keyboard" and then it takes input from the keyboard. So, I'm pretty sure it really does act as a SIP. I've tried re-installing a few times, along the lines you suggest, having cleared everything out but still no luck.
I guess I'll wait another couple days and ship it back. I've written several times to Celluon but have yet to hear anything.
Quincy
Hmm, if they have written it this way (its possible of course) it would be a very stupid approach.
I had a chance to use a couple of hardware keyboards and they usually work separately from the SIP system be it BT or IR keyboard.
Strange that company creating a product primarily for mobile devices seems to know so little about them.
I too have the same problem with my IPAQ hx2490b running WM5.
I have found this web site which hosts a Celluon Laserkey driver for WM5 which installs OK without any registry changes.
The problem is that when the Projection Keyboard is seleted from the Input list and from the keyboard icon, I get a message to say BTM Cannot get current state. If I exit from the driver screen, I then get an error to say that the serial port is in use by another device which should be stopped before trying to use the Projection Keyboard again.
I have removed all of my other BT pairings, done a hard reset and started from scratch to no avail.
The CL800BT pairs OK until I load the driver. If anyone has any ideas for a workaround or has had success in getting this keyboard to work under WM5 I would be grateful for your advice.
I have emailed Celluon but have had no reply. The UK distributor has been trying to sort this for me for a week with no success.
IPAQ hx2490b
ROM 1.02.h
OS 5.1.1702 (Build 14366.1.0.1)
http://www.plawa.com/support/downloads/drivers/laserkey/
Laserkey and hp2490
Thanks for the info guys I found the web site and installed the 2005 drivers but as I expected I have the same problemb< ihave tried Celluon (waste of time never reply)
Looks like my new toy will have to go back unless anyone finds the answer
sucessfull test
Dear all,
there is a WM5-driver on the plawa page aviable -
and it's working as well on WM6 (testet with Hermes)!
okay, that's not a surprise - but the german shortcuts
are working as well!
can I have a link to the plawa page you refer to? I want to use it on wm6 too.
thanks

Help with PDB file?

I'm running WM6 on a wizard. I have a program which shows airfields and information about them called smart companion (attached for anyone who wants to play) which would be really useful for me as a commercial pilot. Unfortunately the associated database file is in pdb format which I was told would work on both Palm and WM (The executable is the WM version) but my wizard wont read it.
Does anyone know how to make this work or do i need a different database format? Can it be converted to the right one?
I have attached the pdb file as well.
Cheeers
Worand
For reading my PDB files I use a free program: OLIVETREE Bible READER: http://www.olivetree.com/pocketpc/
It has an option to read other stuff like ebooks, etc...
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Thanks
Thanks for that I have downloaded it & will try it.
Ideally I would like to get the database to work with the 'smart companion' program as it allows you to add notes & shows the airfields in a proper diagramatic way.
Can pdb files be converted to work like this?
Thanks again
W
worand said:
Thanks for that I have downloaded it & will try it.
Ideally I would like to get the database to work with the 'smart companion' program as it allows you to add notes & shows the airfields in a proper diagramatic way.
Can pdb files be converted to work like this?
Thanks again
W
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I am confused, are you trying to run an application made for a PALM device? If your answer is YES, try StyleTap you won't regret it: http://styletap.com
I just don't know if it is supported though. I use StyleTap to run SUperMemo for Palm. Although there is a SuperMemo for PPC but from a different company, and it sucks. The MapleTop SuperMemo software is better.
Thanks for the post cktlcmd.
The smartCompanion program has two versions. One for palm (a prc file) and one for WM (an exe file). However it only has one database file (a pdb file).
When I run the exe file on my wizard (tried it on wm5 and wm6). the programs runs fine but does not find the database. I made sure the database was in the same directory/folder as the exe file but no joy.
My mate who gave it to me reckons he knows people running it on WM and it is to do with where the database is stored but he runs it on Palm & doesn't know much about WM.
Since your post I have got it running using styletap and the prc (palm) version so I am very happy about that.
I would still very much like to work out how to use the exe version as it runs smoother (orientation changes very slowly using styletap when I want to use my keyboard and a few other minor annoyances).
Anyway your suggestion means I actually have use of the program, and I can run other palm programs if I want as well. Thanks.
Does anybody know if I have to have a pdb file in a specific folder for it to be found by a program?
Ta
Worand
worand said:
Thanks for the post cktlcmd.
Does anybody know if I have to have a pdb file in a specific folder for it to be found by a program?
Ta
Worand
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Let me get this straight, when you install the PPC version it runs fine but can't find the pdb file, right? If the answer is YES, then there should be a setting within that PPC application on pointing to where you should place the pdb file. Otherwise, try the very root of the SD Card, that might be the default setting of the PPC application.

Microsoft Reader Factivation

I not know anybody do it before, if no it is long over due.
Microsoft Reader for Pocket PC is here long as I remember, it it nice reader but their activation method are pain in [email protected]@ if you use their Internet Explorer it many time fail complete activation (you can no use other browser because it is Microsoft and use AX, MS think *nix users must go [email protected] themself?).
And you can activate 6 devices maximum, very generous Microsoft!
Here solution:
Perpetual Activation for Microsoft Reader
It is no hacking.
I simply take advantage of Activation Process "logic hole", it is all.
Up when they change activation proceses (doubt) or patch MS Reader on next ad hoc version (more possible, but it required full build *and* it not stop this activation work on Windows Mobile with MS Reader 2.4.x installated).
This NO is keygen, crack or warez.
I find it (literary) in Microsoft, is all I can say.
Name it "factivation" from Freedom Activation (or [email protected] your stupid activations, Bill...)
I want post it with my real name, but I change mind, one never know what future is next, and law change every day
Install Microsoft Reader for Pocket PC
reboot
Install Microsoft Reader Factivation
have MS Reader activated at open.
It is all.
work on: Pocket PC Windows Mobile 2003, 2003 SE, WM5, WM6, WM6.1 (tested) with Microsoft Reader version 2.4.1
It may will work on WM 2002 if use Microsoft Reader version 2.4 and not the old one (no tested but may work).
Sorry my english!
note:
This software not violate any EU Law in my knowledge.
It may violate laws in other countries (USA?)
It publish here as proof of concept.
It is not my, is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY know law apply to you in your own country.
If you not sure law in your country apply - DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT, DO NOTUSE IT.
tracemeifucan said:
but their activation method are pain in [email protected]@ if you use their Internet Explorer it many time fail complete activation (you can no use other browser because it is Microsoft and use AX, MS think *nix users must go [email protected] themself?).
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Update on the M$ website
Please note that we have recently posted an update of the Pocket PC/Pocket PC Phone Edition version of Microsoft Reader.
This update addresses activation problems experienced by the users of some Windows Mobile 5.0 and 6.0 Phone Edition devices. In addition we have made it easier to use Microsoft Reader with device storage cards
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http://www.microsoft.com/reader/downloads/ppc.mspx
I have tried to activate my Titan since MS updated to make activation "easier", and just like in the past it didn't work with two separate attempts. I would love to tell the useless MS Reader team where to go. As of now I am through with that crappy product and have switched over to eReader - simple activation that always works and a better UI. I just wish I could get the money back for all the .lit format books I've bought over the years.
/edited (because exploit works)
Cool Exploit, thanks for sharing.
I put this in a cab with MSReader and it seems to work great!
didn't work
I tried the instructions as described above on my ATT Fuze (winmo 6.1) and it didn't activate my copy of MS Reader.
HTC Diamond default H3G Rom [6.1]
znutar said:
I tried the instructions as described above on my ATT Fuze (winmo 6.1) and it didn't activate my copy of MS Reader.
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Me too tried as described but Reader did not activate anymore...
I still can't read my bought books
Surely Your Cab is fine, but not rof my device/rom/sw.
Anyone has some other ideas?
Anyway, my device is HTC Touch Diamond with default ITA H3G Rom 6.1, MS Reader 2.41.
TiA
Francesco
It works great on all WinMo 2003SE/5/6.1 PocketPCs I have, all with the latest MS Reader 2.4.1 from microsoft's website.
I'd say PM the author if it doesn't work on your device, maybe there are some variables he (she?) have missed?
Didn't work on my Fuze either but did work on my Kaiser.
Oh well...
Call me ignorant ...
tracemeifucan said:
...
Install Microsoft Reader for Pocket PC
reboot
Install Microsoft Reader Factivation
have MS Reader activated at open.
It is all.
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I was looking to make MS Reader more touch screen friendly on my htc Diamond (like go to next page on swipe right for example) and my google search turned up this thread. It greatly interested me (even though it wasn't what I was looking for) as I've had problems with my MS activation for some time (on another device). The big problem is that I don't know the heck as to what I'm doing (in this sense). Please excue my ignorance. While I know a fair bit about a lot of things IT this has me confused (outside my area of expertiese no doubt). The contents of the compressed file don't contain anything that looks like I can install it except "_setup.xml".
How does one run "_setup.xml"?
Just like any .exe file?
I've already run a search on this site to try to figure it out but my search foo must be weak because I'm none the wiser.
Any help would be appreciated
msinsabaugh said:
I was looking to make MS Reader more touch screen friendly on my htc Diamond (like go to next page on swipe right for example) and my google search turned up this thread. It greatly interested me (even though it wasn't what I was looking for) as I've had problems with my MS activation for some time (on another device). The big problem is that I don't know the heck as to what I'm doing (in this sense). Please excue my ignorance. While I know a fair bit about a lot of things IT this has me confused (outside my area of expertiese no doubt). The contents of the compressed file don't contain anything that looks like I can install it except "_setup.xml".
How does one run "_setup.xml"?
Just like any .exe file?
I've already run a search on this site to try to figure it out but my search foo must be weak because I'm none the wiser.
Any help would be appreciated
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From what I understand you have unpacked .cab file (which you shouldn't - it is not .zip or .rar compressed archive, although it may look like one on your PC if you have winzip or winrar set as default viewer for .cab files).
Just copy the .cab file to your WinMo device and double tap on it, that's what you should do.
downloaded will test it later..
and hey mate
thanks for this.. :-D
worked like a charm thanks!
It works on HD2 and 2.4.2 USA version (Italian version and others are in 2.4.1)
Really great!!!!!
Great application -- thanks a lot!

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