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Two questions:
1. How do I tell what generation my Prophet is? I see a lot of references to G3 and G4 but no information on how to work this out.
2. I currently have the latest i-mate JAMin rom, which is AKU2.0. Is there is a stable AKU2.3 ROM people have been using or is this still "experimental" It's hard to work this out from the threads.
Thanks all.
spaceboy said:
Two questions:
1. How do I tell what generation my Prophet is? I see a lot of references to G3 and G4 but no information on how to work this out.
2. I currently have the latest i-mate JAMin rom, which is AKU2.0. Is there is a stable AKU2.3 ROM people have been using or is this still "experimental" It's hard to work this out from the threads.
Thanks all.
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1: during bootup, 2nd screen find
SPL
2.xx.0001 = g4
2.xx.0000 = g3
2: aku 2.3 seems very stable. Everything works as expected. i've only installed one version, after reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ht=16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe
it's the 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe from this sites' ftp. It has been much more stable and responsive (due to the larger cache) then the preinstalled AKU2.0 on my qtek s200. Boot time is shortened by about 20s.
Before you install this you HAVE to unlock the CID:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
i didn't do this first time, and had to find a valid qtek rom that would install, since my device didn't bootup anymore..
Thanks for that. A question about unlocking the CID:
On the Prophet upgrade page you link to, it has the warning (3 times, in bold!): *WARNING!!!!! DO NOT PERFORM THIS IF YOUR PROPHET HAS THIS ROM "SPL 2.xx.0001" (New G4 Version)
Don't all G4's have that ROM? Mine does (2.13.0001). So where does that leave us for unlocking?
Thanks again.
Im also running a JAMin with the latest official rom and ive seen some good things about the 2.3 updates but im new to the whole cooked roms thing but ill figure it out.
What would I loose by upgrading from my JAMin rom and what would I gain?
Can I go back to my jamin rom if I dont like it?
I have installed the latest DOPOD ROM and I run it native without any soft installed and I reboot only about 1 a month!
To partially answer my own question: The CID unlock process looks like it IS for G3s only. To upgrade G4s you use pdocwrite.exe.
I've seen the details for using pdocwrite to install the pdamobiz ROM, but has anyone used it to install the 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe?
Cheers
dannyoneill said:
Im also running a JAMin with the latest official rom and ive seen some good things about the 2.3 updates but im new to the whole cooked roms thing but ill figure it out.
What would I loose by upgrading from my JAMin rom and what would I gain?
Can I go back to my jamin rom if I dont like it?
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I'm guessing you'd loose some of the vendor customisations - which really are only some useless themes and the network provider settings - which for me just means setting up GPRS. Of course, you also risk loosing your JAMin entirely if you stuff it up
What you gain is a more up-to-date OS which is faster...
what about the extended rom? all the custom stuff is in there, i can access it no probs but would that remain with the rom mentioned above?
would I still be able to run them (if I back them up)
just been researching this rom, looks like it defaults overclocks your device and installs a ton and I mean a ton of apps that most people dont want.
Be warned, its heavily customized and may not be to everyones liking.
Anyone know if I do upgrade to this and unlock my CID if I can then re-apply the official JAMin rom?
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just been researching this rom, looks like it defaults overclocks your device and installs a ton and I mean a ton of apps that most people dont want.
Be warned, its heavily customized and may not be to everyones liking.
Anyone know if I do upgrade to this and unlock my CID if I can then re-apply the official JAMin rom?
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To anyone reading this, here is my experience as of last night.
On my G4 I tried installing 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe after first hard-resetting my device. The installer went ahead fine, but it would not start-up: it would not get past the boot loader screen. So I reinstalled the latest i-mate ROM, booted up, then proceeded to try: ftp://xda:[email protected]/2006-10-05_Upgrade ROM_AKU2.3_lvsw.rar.
This uses the PDAmobiz method to upgrade a G4 which is essentially running a batch file while it unlocks and writes to the ExtRom and the ROM - then doing a hard reset, but it is not the PDAmobiz ROM.
This worked fine, and I now have AKU2.3. Even better, it is not customised, so there's no extra software installed, which I'm happy about. It's been running over night and seems very stable so far. I'm not sure what the paging size is on the ROM, maybe it's smaller = more stability.
So that's my experience!
My experience:
My JAMin running IPL/SPL 2.13.0001 using that rar file that worked for you...
hung on the copy of the OS to the device.
Trying now to recover it by downloading and trying to install latest JAMin update.
I cant get activesync / network connection using USB to phone... Don't know if that will be a problem trying to recover. Its sitting at the 3 colour screen atm.
Is there a way for me to update to IPL/SPL 2.15.0001 from 2.13.0001 before trying again? (assuming my phone is not already dead).
orian said:
My experience:
My JAMin running IPL/SPL 2.13.0001 using that rar file that worked for you...
hung on the copy of the OS to the device.
Trying now to recover it by downloading and trying to install latest JAMin update.
I cant get activesync / network connection using USB to phone... Don't know if that will be a problem trying to recover. Its sitting at the 3 colour screen atm.
Is there a way for me to update to IPL/SPL 2.15.0001 from 2.13.0001 before trying again? (assuming my phone is not already dead).
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If your phone is G4, you should be able to install the vendor ROM no problem - which is magical really. You don't need ActiveSync running; well - it won't connect as the device is dead .
When you say it hung copying the file... it took a good 15-20 minutes to copy across for me, so I hope you weren't just being impatient.
yeah the JAMin rom worked so I'm back where I began.
I did wait 30 mins and it had crashed.... activesync wasnt doing anything, buttons / screen taps weren't working on pda.
Is it because I am running 2.13.0001 is my worry? The update specifies its for 2.15.0001. Is there any way I can update to 2.15.0001 from 2.13.0001 before trying again?
Cheers.
Tried the update again, and this time it worked.
Device is running AKU2.3 now, but still says 2.13.0001 for ipl and spl on boot.
Any ideas anyone on how I can update that to 2.15.0001? and what kind of change that makes anyway?
Thanks all.
dannyoneill said:
just been researching this rom, looks like it defaults overclocks your device and installs a ton and I mean a ton of apps that most people dont want.
Be warned, its heavily customized and may not be to everyones liking.
Anyone know if I do upgrade to this and unlock my CID if I can then re-apply the official JAMin rom?
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you have been researching a different rom. this one does certainly NOT overclock the device by default. And it's a clean install, without any overhead, but WITH the stereo bluetooth headset support. perfect for my uses.
looks like i was looking at another rom, one loaded with junk.
I took the plunge and updated my jamin to the 16mb 4pda rom and im now back on the official jamin, it was way too unstable. Today I rebooted 5 times.
The volume is too low on headset and loud speaker
and some other annoyances.
I need stability
when i'm using AKU2.3,
in Settings / Regional Settings:
there is no "Turkey" option (also Russian).
how can i do that, is there a patch for apply these regions ?
thats why i'm using latest official jamin rom now (wwe) (from clubimate.com)
Ive found the source of instability with the 4PDA rom. Its the radio rom 02.30.21
I went back to my old ROM on my jamin and all was fine, a day without crash, Then loaded on radio rom 02.30.21, hardreset for good measure and setup again,. same as always.
Then, every hour or so im resetting.
Back to official jamin rom and all is fine again.
Radio ROM 02.30.21 is just totally unstable. Ideally I would like the AKU2.3 updated rom but without this awful radio rom they seem to be putting in them all.
i have a G4 IPS/SPL 2.25.0001 and i follow all of mun's steps to flash roms and everything usually works fine, i installed the windows titanium rom last night and was loving it but whenever i try to install NBD's roms everything goes fine with the shelltool and when i do a hard reset it freezes at the cingular screen that displays the IPL/GSM info, it's done this three times in a row with 3 different versions of NBD's roms
i'll flash back to titanium but what could be the cause of this?
any help would be appreciated
on my cidlocked g4 whenever i shelltooled NBD from a cingular base rom it would always get stuck at the cingular boot screen. Only way i can get NBD to run is to use shelltools over the wizardlove rom.
pr0naLd said:
on my cidlocked g4 whenever i shelltooled NBD from a cingular base rom it would always get stuck at the cingular boot screen. Only way i can get NBD to run is to use shelltools over the wizardlove rom.
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i tried from a windows titanium rom and the cingular manufacturer rom, i'll try the wizardlove rom thank you
if anybody feels like answering: why does this make a difference?
yep that did it, the NBD rom worked after i flashed wizardlove first
weird
Wizardloverom is an amazing piece of engineering. Ask anyone how they "saved" their wizard.. 9 times outta 10, wizardloverom.
How long does it take, on average, for you guys to flash the NBD rom? WizardLove almost always goes on in about 8 minutes, but NBD just sits there indefinitely, and I'm dubious about doing a Hard-Reset without confirmation that the flashing procedure is finished.
Yes, it is confirmed that sometimes shelltool doesn't report on flash complete.
Just doing a hard reset after waiting is fine.
I'm having trouble with my Tilt (it recently started being randomly unresponsive to commands (15-20 second lag some times). Is there going to be a new AT&T 6.1 official ROM with updated drivers? My device has the 8-25-07 ROM date, and before I decide what to do I'm checking on the status of official AT&T releases.
No, as far as I know, there isn't an official one yet. However, a lot of the cooked ROMs on this site will probably fix your problem.
If you can't wait for the official ATT WM6.1 release then you could try their latest WM6.0 release http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67&act=sd or as mentioned, could try a cooked ROM.
upgrade ur hardspl and the lags/freezes will be gone.
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upgrade ur hardspl and the lags/freezes will be gone.
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Looks like he is still using an old Stock ATT Tilt ROM (WM 6.0), so that is not likely the issue.
@ gmfeld. If you have had your Tilt for a quote some time, it is possible that you simply have some junk, or orphaned registry settings, or something slowing your system down.
I would recommend either upgrading your ROM to the latest Stock ATT Tilt ROM (as posted above), or simply doing a Hard Reset to get your current ROM back to its original state. Of course, do a BACKUP before you do anything that involves Hard Reset or Flashing!!!1
I just got my tilt and I think I have a newer official version.
It is
ROM 1.62.502.0
Date 01/17/08
Radio 1.27.14.09
I've noticed it has a bluetooth headset issue (not sure if it is exclusive to mine) where it will end the call, but won't hang up in the phone program.
gmfeld & vanisher,
I would suggest you at least run PPCPimBackup then a hard reset. If you have a little time this weekend you should read through G.W.E.N.I. then flash a nice cooked ROM. Play with your device and post educated questions in the proper threads. You WILL appreciate your device more than you ever did...guaranteed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2273408&postcount=2561
The above is a noob success story. I would recommend you go the same ROM route as he did as for starters.
There is no official AT&T WM6.1 ROM yet, but we're getting there.
Check the shipped ROMs section on the wiki to see how new / old your ROM is.
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Looks like he is still using an old Stock ATT Tilt ROM (WM 6.0), so that is not likely the issue.
@ gmfeld. If you have had your Tilt for a quote some time, it is possible that you simply have some junk, or orphaned registry settings, or something slowing your system down.
I would recommend either upgrading your ROM to the latest Stock ATT Tilt ROM (as posted above), or simply doing a Hard Reset to get your current ROM back to its original state. Of course, do a BACKUP before you do anything that involves Hard Reset or Flashing!!!1
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Thanks to all for all the suggestions. I've been running SKTools, so I'm pretty sure I've gotten rid of all the junk and orphaned registry settings, etc.
I agree with all that I need to flash a new ROM, or reflash my original ROM, that's the only thing left to do to clean up my Tilt. Just trying to get some info on when or if a new official AT&T 6.1 ROM is to be released, so I don't go through that process twice. If I knew that its a ways off, I will probably then go with one of the cooked ROMS now.
My fuze is freezing after a soft reset, and the only solution I have found is to hard reset.
I recently flashed hard-spl and my first cooked ROM. A few days later this happened. It freezes just after the animation sequence. I hard reset the phone, set it all up again, couple days later - frozen again. Tried a different ROM, loaded fine, set it all up, couple days later - frozen. Tried a 3rd ROM, same thing.
I was running the stock at&t fuze ROM up until this with no issues. I have tried 2 different versions of the Energy ROM 2.0 and once with Shep's 6.5 ROM.
I'm getting pretty sick of setting this thing up. Any ideas, maybe a bad hard-spl flash?
I had the same problem before, i fixed it with flashing back stock rom, reflash hard-spl and trying a diffrent build of my favorite rom, and to be honest i have no idea what fixed it.
Ok thanks for the reply. I am going to try a reflash of the hard spl, and a new ROM. Something makes me think the hard spl is the problem, but a new ROM can't hurt at this point. I will post my results...... in a few days. Thanks again!
Having almost the same problem. Where exactly was it stopping?
I get the first splash-screen, afterward in the lower right corner the 3 red version numbers appear and nothing happens, i dont get to the second (animated) splashscreen, nor to the windows mobile one.
More info:
Stock Rom
--> flashed HardSPL
--> flashed PdaViet V11
--> months later V15
--> weeks later WM 6.5 Testrom, disappointed --> flashed ProvenRom 3.3
--> trouble began approx. 3 days later
--> reflashed ProvenRom 3.3
--> trouble started again, then i did a hard reset for the first time
i will try reflashing stock rom, then hardspl, than custom rom and report in a couple of days
same thing happened to my htc touch pro. i havent fixed it yet
Happened again. I had reflashed the hard-spl and then a new version of the energyROM. It froze up later that night. Iam getting the first splash, with the red numbers, romversion etc., then the animation plays, the it freezes at the end of it. I guess I will try to flash back to stock ROM and see what happens. Until someone has a fix, I guess it'll be trial and error. I'll keep you posted.
And again, twice.
I thought everything was fine, workin good for a couple of days, then it froze again. Any thoughts or further suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Seems like it happens while I am setting things up, phone starts to get laggy after a soft reset, after adding a cab that requires a soft reset. Then it freezes on the next reset.
Software Version
I think we should narrow this down by comparing the software versions.
I'll start:
Radio: 1.14.25.05
Rom: Proven 3.2, 5.07.831.17 build 5.2.21042.1.6.1
HardSPL by Olinex
now you go!
addition:
i also remember, this happened after a cab-install. Do you remember WHAT you actually tried to install? I think for me it was HomeScreenPlusPlus UI. Afterwards it was always Opera that stopped responding and i had to soft-reset --> total failure
I had the exact same problem...you can see it in the DaG 6.5 Kitchen thread. I tried flashing to a known custom Rom that I know worked and it still had the same issue. I fixed it with the advice of someone there, the same advice that's here. Flash a stock rom, hard reset....then flash a custom rom. I don't know why that fixed it but it did.
Hmmm, maybe this will work. I had tried that and it did seem to work. However, after a few days I got sick of the 6.5 and flashed back to the energyROM. So I will give this fix another shot.
In regards to the previous post here's what I am running:
radio: 1.12.25.19
Rom: EnergyROM 2.0 build 41609
Hard SPL - SPL-1.90.by Olinex
Its almost becoming funny now. I did a soft reset so I could see the radio version and guess what - it froze again.
It seems like if I don't set everything up, it will last a few days, but sooner or later I get fed up with not having progs installed etc. and after I set it up - poof!
So here is a list of cabs and general things i do to setup the phone.
Hard reset - reset at screen setup - ROM intitial setup - device reboots itself-
-PPCPIMBackup (installed on ROM, just restore contacts)
-ChangeScreen or Gyrator / have tried both individually, not at the same time
-DredSensor
-KforTouchPro
-HTCWeathermaster Rhodium
-Gscroll 2.0 (beta)
maybe something else I haven't installed every time
of course, set owner name, setup e-mail, the rhodium world clock bug setup, general tf3d setup (contacts, weather, tabs etc.)
Add shortcuts from my sd card for previously installed progs.
I'm not sure that any of these are the issue. I have done this at least ten times. Each time I have noticed which was the last cab installed then freeze, I try not to install that cab, then it will still freeze, eventually.
I am going to reflash the stock ROM and stock SPL, then hard SPL and a ROM flash. I'll be sure to post my results.
i tried latest mystic 6.5 rom lite beta 1.1 and it froze within a day at the second splash screen and after about 1-2 min the screen turned white. I have tried the battery removing trick, but same results. I'm not sure what apps i have installed after hard reset...
i tried latest romeos rom 6.1 randium edition: it got frozen after some time...
same with both NRGZ roms: 1 and 2 version (standard raphael manila and rhodium manila).
Now i'm using romeos wm6.5 rom 2.101... will post if it freezes...
i havent tried this: "reflash the stock ROM and stock SPL, then hard SPL and a ROM flash" yet...
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Now i'm using romeos wm6.5 rom 2.101... will post if it freezes...
i havent tried this: "reflash the stock ROM and stock SPL, then hard SPL and a ROM flash" yet...
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I had no luck with this solution, and it is not exactly what was described.
Actually the solution posted is to just flash stock rom, hard reset, then flash custom rom.
I tried the above solution and it still froze, now I am going to try the correct solution posted and see what happens.
Frozen again... I am going to flash back to stock rom, stock spl, see if it still freezes.
This works (for me)
Running fine for a week:
- Flashed stock ROM (O2 German). This replaces the radio and the OS
- Went back to stock SPL. THIS IS TRICKY, SO READ(!):
+ Olinex HardSPL will NOT let you flash back to your StockSPL, because it is write-protected. This kept me up quite some time.
+ Flash your Stock ROM
+ Then, flash the hacked 195 SPL mentioned HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502720
+ then, flash your Stock SPL. Read the Threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
+ Make sure, your SPL is neither Olinex, nor the hacked 195 in the third picture
+ I flashed the Stock ROM again just to be sure the stock SPL runs and allows your stock ROM to run.
- Flashed HardSPL
- Flashed Energy ROM 2.0 WITHOUT Manila, flashed latest Radio, installed cabbed Rilphone.dll
Installed Resco, Resco Today, MortPlayer - this is the SAME setup that got me caught the last time and now runs fine for a week.
This works for me. I presume some ppl get the stock SPL flashing wrong.
As i can read from other roms, it happens ONLY to Roms with the new rhodium manila,
so maybe, if you're tired of reflashing and hard reset, try one without the new manila interface.
Another suggestion: I have a different Opera now. Many describe they tried to start Opera, THEN it hangs and the phone gets stuck on bootscreen. I have 9.5 Build 15613 now and this one runs fine.
I encourage you to try energy ROM 2.0 without Manila. There seems to be a battery issue and someone uploaded a version with better battery life, you may try this, but i don't find the post anymore and this may have rhodium manila included. Energy ROM 3.0 is out now netherless, maybe someone can follow my instructions and try this with 3.0.
Hope i could help, this was bugging me SO LONG
Wow, thanks!
I have been running the stock at&t rom since my last post with no freezing. I will try this step for step, and I will try energyrom 3.0 just to let you know.
Wish me luck!
Well, I was able to get the stock SPL back, just as you described. Thanks again for the info.
However, I flashed EnergyROM3.0 and it froze after a few hours. Of course that rom has the rhodium manila cooked in, so I am going to try again with another rom. I will report back later.
from my last post i have been using romeos wm6.5 v2.101 with no freezing.. it has NO manila cooked in.
I think, maybe it has something to do with manila :-?
Same problems here as described. Using:
1.14.25.05 Radio
EnergyROM 3.0 WM6.5 50409a version
Started after flashing the WM6.5, reproduced easily after 1-2 hr of ROM on phone, it freezes (either by installing something, or Manila general use) then stays on information screen of versions.
Going to try stock ROM + reflash SPL then flash EnergyROM 3.0 again. If that wont work, i go back to 2.0 which worked well.
OK guys I am going to report this issue has been fixed (though not solved) for me.
I flashed ROMeOS wm6.5 v2101 and am also running the version of opera previously posted. I have been running for almost a week with no freezing, and (knock on wood) do not expect it to.
I am very happy with this rom and don't plan on flashing again for a while. However, if I do I will report any success/failure. I am curious to know if the problem is just certain roms, or something specific in them. If anyone else having these issues would care to post their results with other roms, it would be appreciated for the sake of the community.
I also wanted to note that I flashed the RRE wm6.5 non-manila version just before this and it did freeze on me. So it may not be related to the rhodium manila.
Anyways thanks again to all who posted and helped with this. I can't tell you how happy I am to have stable phone again!
Good luck and happy flashing!
same thing happened to my htc touch pro. i havent fixed it yet
Hi, ive flashed a few handsets before (wallaby x2, alpine and a wizard) and had no problems but for some reason cannot even get off the first hurdle with my t-mobile vario iv and cant even unlock the dam thing to flash a custom rom! ive looked at post after post and downloaded so many programs like hard spl and nothing works. the programs ether wont even open or they fail half way through the process but havent bricked my phone so far (fingers and toes crossed!) please could someone help me with what unlocking software i need, what radio rom and main rom i should be using. Really i would like to try a standard wm6.5 rom and then try custom roms after but like what nrg have done if stock is not avaliable. its model is RAPH300 part no- 99HFP013-00
my current rom version is 1.69.110.8 WWE
my current radio version is 1.02.25.19
protocol version 52.33.25.17U
my email is [email protected] if you prefer to help via email
thanks in advance everyone, steve.
Anyone out there?
Ensure you have hard SPL'd your handset before trying to flash ANY custom roms
before you do that, see if there is an updated T-Mobile rom, see if that update will work, if that update works without any glitches then it'll be alright, if you get an error with an official update then possibly something wrong with either your pc setup or the handset
if your using vista, make sure you've got the windows mobile device centre installed, if not, you need to go to microsoft and download it
if using windows xp, make sure you've got the latest activesync installed.
ensure the cable your using is not faulty by trying it with a different cable
and good luck!
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Ensure you have hard SPL'd your handset before trying to flash ANY custom roms
before you do that, see if there is an updated T-Mobile rom, see if that update will work, if that update works without any glitches then it'll be alright, if you get an error with an official update then possibly something wrong with either your pc setup or the handset
if your using vista, make sure you've got the windows mobile device centre installed, if not, you need to go to microsoft and download it
if using windows xp, make sure you've got the latest activesync installed.
ensure the cable your using is not faulty by trying it with a different cable
and good luck!
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thanks for trying to help, have you ever read something over and over and repeatedly missed something in it? i think thats what i did wrong. i did not see the bit about removing my sim card even though i had read the noobs guide again and again. removed my sim and bosh, spl worked! then everything else was a breeze and i am now running the energy 3.0 wm6.5 rom! havent flashed the radio yet but will probably do that today. the energy rom is a vast improvement on my stock 6.1 rom in many areas and seems to have improved camera performance quite a lot (not quality) and the menus are going to be great once i have got used to the totally different interface. does anyone have any sugestions on other roms tha may be better than this one?
Hi there
Glad to hear you got it working!
I am personally using NATF's WM6.1 lite touch pro rom as all i look for in a rom is stability as i actually use my phone for phone/text purposes and there is nothing more annoying than a hanging phone when your trying to quickly reply to a text message!