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Okay, so I'm starting to develop apps for my XDA2 and having come from a standard PC development background I was always told that software should uphold the basic principles of software quality IE reliability, reusability, maintenance and so on
I thought it would be an idea to here from people that develop for the mobile platform weather they feel it is possible to develop apps with these software engineering fundamentals.
Do we have to abandon object orientated programming, and go back to the procedures in order to develop?
Sorry if this is a, a silly debate, or b, been talked about before
lets have ya
first of all this post would prob belong more in hacking it being that thats where most the devoleping stuff is being adressed
other then that some people use gcc some people use win stk
where you have to make oo from the buttom if you want being that both are c++ it's by far impossible
and some program mfc and .net where oo is very much a part of the way things are don of cause using these tech's you can still program without following the guidelines of oo
i think the name of this forum confuse many people
even though it's xda developers few people here develop software for these devices
most people talk about spc xda stuff and how to upgrade and general pda stuff
hacking it is where most the software stuff is at
Hello Rudegar
Thanks you for the tip, Have no doubt that I shall be taking that on board and be re-posting my message in the hacking it forum (Hope that I am not breaking any rules by doing this, we don't want to do that! ).
nop it's not a forum rule or anything it's just that your post will get pushed out of the view before many people will read or answer it in this part of the forum
the development environment for pocketpc provides you with all the same tools as you would use under 'normal / win32' circumstances.
if you are used to using your own oo wrappers for most microsoft api's you can probably port them without much effort to the ppc platform.
the boost libraries work fine with embedded vc++.
don't know about stuff like qt.
Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.
zuenaerox said:
Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.
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First off, I am not sure if this is in the right section...perhaps putting it under General might be a better option, as it does not have to do specifically with developing a ROM.
Secondly, the idea seems promising. I am not fluent with ADB, but if you can flash roms with it (IE: boot the phone into recovery, and use adb to flash the rom), then yeah, I think it would be a great idea. And again, depending on what ADB can do, haev it control nandroid/bart as well for backing up and restoring. I know ADB has the shell command, so if you can use stdin/stdout to read/write to that shell prompt, it would be feasible.
But that is forcing every user to go ahead and keep a db of the ROMs they download...perhaps using an external host to manage the images (keep a listing, changelogs, etc) of the individual roms would be an idea...then you can have the application pull roms directly from that repo. This, of course, would require you to manage the remote repository and keep it up to date.
Thats my $0.02
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First off, I am not sure if this is in the right section...perhaps putting it under General might be a better option, as it does not have to do specifically with developing a ROM.
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This is ANDROID Development, not ROM Development.
My $0.02.
Bavilo said:
This is ANDROID Development, not ROM Development.
My $0.02.
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Thats why I said "I'm not sure"...I stand corrected though.
If we want to get technical, this is Htc Dream (G1) Android Development. If we want to be nitpicky this should be in Android development unless it is only for the Dream (G1) and will not work for any other Android phone, which I doubt. But who's being nitpicky anyway?
JAguirre1231 said:
If we want to get technical, this is Htc Dream (G1) Android Development. If we want to be nitpicky this should be in Android development unless it is only for the Dream (G1) and will not work for any other Android phone, which I doubt. But who's being nitpicky anyway?
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First off, I love the last line of your signature...classic
I just know that the mods and certain 'Senior Members' like to trash talk about threads in the wrong section, rather than simply stating that it would be more appropriate elsewhere. I was just trying to stop the bashing before it started, heh.
This thread is getting sidetracked though. I do think that the idea is a good one, whether it be strictly for G1, or across the board for all Android devices.
Sorry...
Sorry for posting this in the wrong section, i thought it should be in this section becouse it involves rom's.
Putting up a rom repo, would involve PHP and Mysql(a large one, saving all roms and radio's).
I would be very interested starting this project. I could use some help however. I don't mind building such a repo, but the content should be community managed.
I think android is going to be the mobile future so building such a repo would pay off since we're getting more and more rom's. Ill experiment with php and mysql tonight. I don't have a host, i run it locally.
Maybe someone with mysql/ bandwith to spare?
greetings
zuenaerox said:
Sorry for posting this in the wrong section, i thought it should be in this section becouse it involves rom's.
Putting up a rom repo, would involve PHP and Mysql(a large one, saving all roms and radio's).
I would be very interested starting this project. I could use some help however. I don't mind building such a repo, but the content should be community managed.
I think android is going to be the mobile future so building such a repo would pay off since we're getting more and more rom's. Ill experiment with php and mysql tonight. I don't have a host, i run it locally.
Maybe someone with mysql/ bandwith to spare?
greetings
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It wouldn't necessarily have to be done with MySQL/SQLite/etc...XML would work just as well, but can be a bit more tricky to manage. SQL probably would be the better option now that I think about it.
This idea would have 2 parts to it then, correct? The backend (database hosted online somewhere), and the frontend for the user desktop.
As far as the bandwidth required, there are plenty of places on the net that are geared towards hosting of open source projects...perhaps you could use one of their offerings.
The idea first involved a client managed application only. However the idea in the other post about a web based repo liked me better . Ill try to develop a simple web application to add rom's,track changes. I will try to put a test application online tomorrow.
I hope this repo will be used and managed. I like this forum very much and the community could not live without it. This repo would absolutely be and addition to xda!
Using the repo, you could view all available rom's, installation instructions, track changes.
Check the thread tomorrow. Ill try to upload an example
Have a nice day
zuenaerox said:
The idea first involved a client managed application only. However the idea in the other post about a web based repo liked me better . Ill try to develop a simple web application to add rom's,track changes. I will try to put a test application online tomorrow.
I hope this repo will be used and managed. I like this forum very much and the community could not live without it. This repo would absolutely be and addition to xda!
Using the repo, you could view all available rom's, installation instructions, track changes.
Check the thread tomorrow. Ill try to upload an example
Have a nice day
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I think anything is better than what we have now: Threads scattered all over the place with new ROMs getting posted. We need something more centralized.
bro you look like a fake maxisma .. hahahhaha .. sorry had to point that out
@georgegreco86
Well thank you for your kind reply...
@jmhecker
I've put together a quick php,mysql script on a temporary host. It's not possible to add roms. But you can view rom information in an organized way.
This is just an example of what is possible. Never mind the layout.
Its just a quick preview.
androidrepo.zxq.net/index.php
Greetings
Great idea!!!
im not a developer, but im a flashaholic he he, cant wait for this info....
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@georgegreco86
Well thank you for your kind reply...
@jmhecker
I've put together a quick php,mysql script on a temporary host. It's not possible to add roms. But you can view rom information in an organized way.
This is just an example of what is possible. Never mind the layout.
Its just a quick preview.
androidrepo.zxq.net/index.php
Greetings
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The one thing to think about with this is when you allw people to add/update/delete their roms. You will have to have some sort of permission system in place that would prevent UserA from deleting a ROM that was created and uploaded by UserB.
Also, this creates another login/password that the rom creators need to remember.
Yeah i thougt about that, unfortunatly we live in a world where you can't trust people. So yes i need to build an user auth system
This was just preview
I'm going to bed now, ill be working on it tomorrow
have a nice day
I like to help
well I am just putting a new linux server online in the next day or so
toss one of my google adds on the page and you can host it there
and as space requirements grow I can add more np
it would at ther very least get it hosted so you guys can get it off the ground
by the way I have been lurking around here for months
some of the stuff you guys have done is truely sweet my phone
will never be the say again unless rogers has its way
Hello guys,
I've been working very hard on the repo and i'm glad to announce that the admin part is allmost fully finished!!
@Broncosis
Thank you for your reply!!!!
i hope your host can run php, and mysql. I use the mysql to upload foto's and roms are saved to the server harddisk. Will this be possible?
Thanks in advance for helping get this project off the ground !!
greetings
zuenaerox said:
Hello guys,
I've been working very hard on the repo and i'm glad to announce that the admin part is allmost fully finished!!
@Broncosis
Thank you for your reply!!!!
i hope your host can run php, and mysql. I use the mysql to upload foto's and roms are saved to the server harddisk. Will this be possible?
Thanks in advance for helping get this project off the ground !!
greetings
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If I may make a suggestion: When you are working on the frontend (what the users (not devs) will see, code it using proper XHTML standards, and utilize classes from within your CSS. The reason I say that is I would be willing to make a desktop application that would scrape your webpage at load, and obtain the ROM categories, rom information, download links, etc, and the user would then be able to simply choose a ROM from the application, which in turn would download it, and create a nandroid backup of the phone, move the ROM over, and flash it, without any user interaction. (thats assuming I can work out a few of the troubles I am running into with ADB and Fastboot)
zuenaerox said:
Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.
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You may want to partner with the guy who built Droid Explorer. This sounds like a natural extension to that tool (if it's not already baked in). I know you can push things like APKs to the phone from Droid Explorer.
maxawesome said:
You may want to partner with the guy who built Droid Explorer. This sounds like a natural extension to that tool (if it's not already baked in). I know you can push things like APKs to the phone from Droid Explorer.
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Do we know who it was that created Droid Explorer? I would love to be able to improve upon what he has already done.
Hi.
I am using an HTC HD2.
So here's the challenge - or maybe not!
These guys (communicationautism.com) released PixTalk (see there download section), a WM application for children with Autism to allow them to communicate. The dark side (aka IPhone) have released a commercial application called Grace which achieves the same thing.
PixTalk is Open Source and the licence allows modification and redistribution.
The issue is this: I have been advised that it will not run on 800x420 screens (which is the HTC HD2). I get the following script:
ArgumentOutOfRangeException at System .IO.FileStream_Position(Int64value)
at Pixtalk>Form1.ctor()
at Pixtalk.Program.Main()
I am running it on an HTC HD2 1024Mhz with 800x480 display.
OS version is 5.2.23554.
I am running Microsoft .NET CF 3.5 (which is built into a customized ROM).
One thing I guarantee - I will be donating to the first person who can assist me as I have a 4 year old with Autism and I don't want to buy an IPhone!
Thanks in advance
Andrew
i'm sorry i'm not a developer, otherwise i would help you surely to make the app work, without any donation of course, the biggest one is the opportunity to can help your son.
bye!
ajt320 said:
ArgumentOutOfRangeException at System .IO.FileStream_Position(Int64value)
at Pixtalk>Form1.ctor()
at Pixtalk.Program.Main()
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Doesn't sound like a screen related error, sounds more like you have a file that its trying to open and it's either missing or corrupt. You say it's open source, but I don't see the source available on their site ... do you have it or can point me to it? If so I'd be happy to take a peek.
-Chuck
I only have the CAB file and associated images at this stage. I have requested the program co-ordinator for the code and will get back to you as soon as I have it.
EDIT: Sorry it is not a CAB but an EXE.
The licence reads:
PixTalk is a software application for Windows Mobile 6 that allows people to communicate using icons. PixTalk has been funded by a grant from Microsoft Research.
Copyright (C)
Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA Claremont Graduate University, Claremont, CA, USA
This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the BSD License as published by the Open Source Initiative.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
See the Open Source Initiative OSI - The BSD License: Licensing
for more details opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
Although I've never developed for compact .net, if you will be able to obtain the source, I'll do my best to help.
My uncle has Autism, Just wanted to thank you for putting this up!
Much respect!
I would donate to help If i wasnt so broke with 11 month old son..
Best of luck in your development!
I'll happily look at this once the source is available.
No donations required - I'm just a sucker for a good cause.
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ArgumentOutOfRangeException at System .IO.FileStream_Position(Int64value)
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it seems that the app tries to read data from a position in the file which is beyond the filesize.
e.g.
the file being read has a size of 2.000 bytes, and the app tries to read from position 2.500.
hebbe said:
it seems that the app tries to read data from a position in the file which is beyond the filesize.
e.g.
the file being read has a size of 2.000 bytes, and the app tries to read from position 2.500.
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Or trying to read from a file that doesn't exist, and is being created by the stream object (whatever type of stream it actually is). It's pretty much guesswork until we see the source code.
Thanks
Thanks everyone for your great support.
The source code is on its way!
I just have to agree that the fix or updated version will be available to communicationautism.com for public download off their site.
The developer has said full credit will be attributable to those of you involved in the fix. I am hoping that will be some good cudos for you guys and gals!
ajt320 said:
Thanks everyone for your great support.
The source code is on its way!
I just have to agree that the fix or updated version will be available to communicationautism.com for public download off their site.
The developer has said full credit will be attributable to those of you involved in the fix. I am hoping that will be some good cudos for you guys and gals!
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Nice one mate. It'll be like a busman's holiday
Source Code
Here is the source code for Pix Talk.
Please read the earlier posts for the condition attached to further development and also what the problem is all about.
rapidshare.com/files/381341025/pixtalk.zip
Please feel free to PM me with any questions or requests for other information.
To give you some idea of the IPhone applications check out: //blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/2010/03/grace-picture-exchange-for-non-verbal.html#comments
Thanks in advance to all who contribute to this extremely beneficial application. I will ensure that your names are revered far and wide!!!!!
Still Going
Hi all.
johncmolyneux is on board and it would be good to get some other members involved - good for the developers and good for XDA as this is truly a worthwhile application.
HELP
OK.
John M is unfortunately unable to assist.
Is there anyone else who may be interested?
Can you please re-upload the source code because it is no longer available for download.
Good Luck
Hope someone can help you with the app
Source Code
Hi.
Here is the code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/412861773/pixtalk.zip
Let me know if you need any assistance in any way whatsoever and I will see if I can oblige.
Thanks for your interest!
Please check your PM's. I have uploaded an initial working version for you to test.
Once any problems are fixed I will provide a public download link as well as a link to the source.
Thanks
Thanks a bunch!
Have downloaded and will test first thing in the morning.
Mate I appreciate the time you have put into it so far!
Greetz
Where can I find this updated version
Hi,
I just downloaded the app from the site, and seem to have similar issues. This is for my autistic son. I found this thread. Can I get the updated app - also for the HD2. I do have dev experience too, so if the source code is available, and the problem is not fixed, I can look at help at fixing it too.
This thread is for the discussion related to the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK.
For public information or documentations about the chip itself, please visit
http://www2.renesas.com/mobile/en/emma_mobile/em_ev.html#pageLink04
Why I am posting here?
This thread was originally started at slatedroid.com by one member who had drawn my attention there.
The reason I was interested was because there was a community of Rena3/Opad users there who are having an active discussion of things related to Android tablets based on NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 chip. The community there are interested to port Cyanogenmod to Rena3/Opad or develop a custom ROM for the Rena3/Opad tablet.
Part of reason they want a custom ROM was because Rena3's firmware is badly implemented. Users have reported many bugs on it and the chip's performance is not fully optimized to utilize its two cpu either.
Their problem is that the source code of the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 chip is not publically available, so they can't really do anything other than simple modifications.
However, I have previously stumbled upon the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK somewhere on the internet. With the help of interested developer, in slatedroid's SDK thread, I have confirmed that the BSP/SDK I have is the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK that they need.
I was planning to make it available on slatedroid.com but something I posted offended the moderators there..... And I was banned immediately without warning or recourse.
The slatedroid member who had originally invited me to slatedroid was also banned when he was trying to help me to get my account re-instated.
Hence, I have no choice but to find an alternative forum to continue the SDK thread from slatedroid.com
This forum seems to be a good choice, that's why I am posting here now.
You can visit the original thread here
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/21660-sdk-possibly-on-the-way/
I have attempted to post this thread on androidtablets.net but this thread was deleted within 24 hours of posting (My account with androidtablets.net is not banned and still usable though....).
It was lucky that Google have a cache of this thread, so I don't have to retype the whole thing again....
Note: the same thread is posted at
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/cor...droid-devices-incl-tablets-custom-rom-90.html
http://androidforums.com/custom-rom...-android-devices-incl-tablets-custom-rom.html
I believe there are ROM developers here who may also be interested in this NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK.
If not, I hope those member from Slatedroid.com would find their way here because I cannot make any post or even read slatedroid after I was banned.
With the help of fourgate from slatedroid, we have already uploaded the entire SDK/BSP on some file hosting web site.
About the BSP/SDK
So far, what we know is that the NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 BSP/SDK I have obtained is dated around april 2011. There are a number of known bugs inside the BSP/SDK which have been fixed by some vendors by now (September 2011), e.g. a lot of bugs were fixed in our Gen-E tablet by our supplier and we are now (September 2011) using a firmware is now running a kernel which is dated in August 2011.
In order to port the latest version of Cyanogenmod or AOSP, i.e. Android 2.3 or later to NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet, you can expect that some work is required to update the kernel and fixed bugs that have already been fixed before...
In addition, we noticed that the BSP/SDK I have obtained is not complete but do contains the most important parts that you need. Yes, kernal source is there....
To get you started, this is the release notes of the BSP/SDK.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9d6f8e
Calling for ROM developers
If you are a ROM developer, capable of porting Cyanogenmod or AOSP to NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet, interested to work on this and want access to the source codes, please reply on this thread with the following information
1) State who you are
2) What do you intend to do with the file
2) What Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based device you currently own, if any. Or state none if you don't have one.
Once I see your post, I will sent u the download link via PM (please do NOT post the link I provide pubically but you are free to create a mirror copy of it elsewhere and post the link here.)
Why do I request these information?
So everyone knows who is trying to work on this because at present (17th October), because there are too few developers working on this and we would like to be able to contact them to seek update or have them available to help out other developers who are also working on this. I only know one developer, who found me through these threads, is actively working on this
In order to keep the BSP/SDK publically available, after you have downloaded the BSP/SDK, I would like to ask you to help us upload, host the file somewhere else and post a reply here to share the download link. Then, I will update the download link on this post here.
Public repository
To help with collaboration, I think we would need a repository to store/merge the code from different developers.
Most opinions received so far are to host these files at github (Or you have a better suggestion where we can put the modified source code?)
I am not a developer and I can't help on this. So, I would need a volunteer to upload and manage this......(anyone?)
nOISEVAULT said:
You can look here for the code.
I organized it in three repositories based around the tar.gz files in the SDK.
If someone wants to reorganize that's fine by me.
https://github.com/cAPSLOCK7
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Useful informations related to this
For those ROM developers who do NOT have a NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet, if you have proven yourself that you are genuinely making contributions towards Cyanogenmod or ASOP build for NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet. We are willing to provide you with our Gen-E tablet at a discounted price. Please PM me on this matter after you made some contribution here.
(reserved for additional information)
You can use github for source code management
cdesai said:
You can use github for source code management
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Another developer have mentioned that before but the most important part is still trying to have ROM developers interested and then they are put the source code up on github.
Being a non-programmer, I can't do these....
Firstly, I am interested in doing rom development for the rena3 which I own (typing this very message on it). I am new to android rom development but not new to android or development.
But I have two questions.
1. Why are you getting banned from forums? At slatedroid the admin said you were only conditionally willing to share the SDK.
2. Why not upload the SDK to github and let us start working on roms for the device.
Something is fishy about this whole thing to say the least.
Managing Director
Portable Electronics Ltd // Seller of Gen-E Android devices
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nOISEVAULT, this is the answer on both of your questions
He's getting banned because moderators think he's promoting his products.
He cannot use github or smth else 'cause he's not a technical user, he's mostly like "people manager" trying to get his team connected to XDA developers.
So, ericwong, what do we need to get started? Can you upload an archive with current version to a file hosting so we can use it to set up a developer repository?
For example, you can use multiupload.com — it uploads your file to a number of free hosting services, so you can be 99,99% sure that the file will be available for about a month.
Oh, I see you don't know how to use github.
Then why not just upload the SDK to a filesharing service, and let the devs who will be interested take it and upload the code to github etc.
I don't think you will interest bees by just TELLING them you have a field of clover. You need to show them.
ericwong said:
For those ROM developers who do NOT have a NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet, if you have proven yourself that you are genuinely making contributions towards Cyanogenmod or ASOP build for NEC Renesas EMMA Mobile EV2 based tablet. We are willing to provide you with our Gen-E tablet at a discounted price. Please PM me on this matter after you made some contribution here.
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Managing Director
Portable Electronics Ltd // Seller of Gen-E Android devices
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ericwong, please consider that even this thread looks suspicious. We have no source code yet, but we have an offer to buy a «Gen-E tablet at a discounted price». Not a big surprise you were banned on some forums already. This is not the way the things get done.
Zombieff said:
So, ericwong, what do we need to get started? Can you upload an archive with current version to a file hosting so we can use it to set up a developer repository?
For example, you can use multiupload.com — it uploads your file to a number of free hosting services, so you can be 99,99% sure that the file will be available for about a month.
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One of the interested developer, fourgate from slatedroid have helped me to upload the bulk of the files to a file hosting. However, I have not heard from him since.
I have updated my post with more information, please read it.
I am be more than happy to provide you with the file if you are willing to help setop the developer repository.
Zombieff said:
ericwong, please consider that even this thread looks suspicious. We have no source code yet, but we have an offer to buy a «Gen-E tablet at a discounted price». Not a big surprise you were banned on some forums already. This is not the way the things get done.
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I am ONLY trying to help interested developer purchase a unit if they don't have a unit to work on. There is no obligation to purchase. This is NOT an advertisement to sell my products.
I can certainly ask the only active developer to post here to update his progress so far here to proof to you that this is not a hoax.
I can also provide you with the actual source if you are a ROM developer interested to help on this work. (please read my earlier post again, I have updated it.)
As I said. I am interested in trying to work on developing roms for this device.
If you will give us a link to the SDK we can start doing that. Where is the link?
Well, i agree, this is not the way to get things done, put the code there, without conditions and people will join, put just a load of words conditioning resources, and you'll probably get banned again, i'm not a rom developer, but a programmer, i'll start reading about rom deving when i get my device (2 weaks or so), which has an ev2 (is probably the same, just put together/rebranded by a diferent chinese company).
There is quite some documentation available (with no conditions from renesas), this might be lower level than the required level to dev a rom, but probably, scratching a bit more, there is a chance to find more, as for specific components (such as wifi, 3g modules, gps modules etc...) they have to compile with the suported devices by this SoC i can't post the link cuz this will be my 4th post, but i can tell you that what i found is this:
EMMA Mobile EV Series Pamphlet (probably worthless)
EMMA Mobile EV2 Datasheet
EMMA Mobile EV/EM User's Manual (this might be the most usefull)
On the renesas webpage is also the block diagram for the SoC, still have to do a crapload of reading b4 i can even pretend to know what needs to be done to develop a custom rom.
nOISEVAULT said:
As I said. I am interested in trying to work on developing roms for this device.
If you will give us a link to the SDK we can start doing that. Where is the link?
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I have sent you a PM with the download link.
If you have high speed upload, feel free to upload it to github or other places and share it here.
Thank you
darkwingcraft said:
There is quite some documentation available (with no conditions from renesas), this might be lower level than the required level to dev a rom, but probably, scratching a bit more, there is a chance to find more, as for specific components (such as wifi, 3g modules, gps modules etc...) they have to compile with the suported devices by this SoC i can't post the link cuz this will be my 4th post, but i can tell you that what i found is this:
EMMA Mobile EV Series Pamphlet (probably worthless)
EMMA Mobile EV2 Datasheet
EMMA Mobile EV/EM User's Manual (this might be the most usefull)
On the renesas webpage is also the block diagram for the SoC, still have to do a crapload of reading b4 i can even pretend to know what needs to be done to develop a custom rom.
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I will put the link in my earlier post then
I know what link you mean....
Regardless of what documentation you find, without the kernel source, you are not likely to be able to do anything significant or porting Cyanogen Mod over. The source is only the starting point, I believe there are a lot more work involved which may not be documentated by NEC on how to make it work.
Please see my PM and let us know here what you can manage to do out of the code.
At a glance everything in this package is published under GPL 2.0 So there's no harm in working on it.
I am working on a github repository of the source code.
OK. You can look here for the code.
I organized it in three repositories based around the tar.gz files in the SDK.
If someone wants to reorganize that's fine by me.
look here:
https : / / github.com / cAPSLOCK7
I had to write the link that way since this forum doesn't trust me enough to post links yet.
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At a glance everything in this package is published under GPL 2.0 So there's no harm in working on it.
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Sounds good but even though it maybe published under GPL 2.0, I don't think anyone manage to get the code from NEC or elsewhere....
This thread may be pointless but I don't care. I can't find a straight general answer.
I am kind of new to Android modding but have ok skills with coding and decent skills with Linux (I know how to survive in a shell).
What are good code examples or what are the best methods(exploits) used to privilege escalate a shell?
Do I need to find a hole in the Linux kernel or try to hijack an active process running as root?
What is needed to crack the bootloader? I know I'm asking a lot and most of my terms used may be wrong but I find it hard to take that next step. Would I find answers by reading an Android developers book?
Please, where do I start???
There are many options in the development criteria, the two main consist of OS Development (Roms) and Application Development.
Judging by what you're stating, I think you're trying to work towards OS Development? Correct me if I'm wrong.
I know I'm being a bit cheap by not typing out everything needed, as I will have to put some time into that... But the official CyanogenMod wiki shows you how to set up a building environment on Mac, Windows and Linux.
From there they explain in detail on what shell commands you must use to run exploits and such. They also explain what specific components and files do and how you can modify and update them from what I have previously seen. The site also shows you how to build a ROM for your device itself, using the CyanogenMod source of course, the method applies to all source to be honest.
Here's a link to the website - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Main_Page
If this wasn't what you were asking for let me know so I can explain furthermore.
Krish.
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