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GPS not working = WM 6.1 or radio ??

My TYTN II has been flashed to Dutty WM 6.1 & Radio 1.64, but I can't get my GPS working.
Previous ROM was Schap 4.30 & Radio 1.27, with those my GPS working fine.
I wonder wheter it's WM 6.1 bug or Radio for WM 6.1 bug.
I've tried GPS Tool & it's said invalid GPS data.
I live in Indonesia, SE Asia.
Anyone has same problem ??

Read before posting issues. First of all you need a compatiable radio for 6.1 which is listed dutty's post. First install the radio then hard reset then install dutty's rom then hard reset. All the problem will be solved.

kamark said:
Read before posting issues. First of all you need a compatiable radio for 6.1 which is listed dutty's post. First install the radio then hard reset then install dutty's rom then hard reset. All the problem will be solved.
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From what I can see, he is using a 6.1 radio.
1.64.06.04
1.64.08.21
Are both 6.1 Radios. I'm not sure what the issue is, but I don't think its the radio. What options are you using in GPS Tool? And did you try running QuickGPS first?
Heres the quoted instructions from Dutty's 6.1 thread:
duttythroy said:
To make sure you properly get a GPS signal. First run Quick GPS.
Start > Programs > System Tool > QuickGPS
Hit download and when it’s done it ok
Now run GPS Tool
Start > Programs > System Tools > GPSTool
Click Open and then click start.
Click on the Satellite tab and wait till the bars turn green once this happens you will have a GPS fix.
*You can also verify the this by clicking the information tab and wait till you have a Latitude and Longitude fix:
Now you can use your GPS software.
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Try to go back to radio 1.27.xx.xx!
possible the new 1.64.xx.xx have NV item 143 set to 11
If GPS work on your 6.1 Rom with 1.27.xx.xx Radio ... try the modded 1.58.xx.xx Polaris Radios!

i have the same problem with gps, also igo gps program locking when it found the port 4, it is awful, i hate the 6.1 also last radio

tuncayt said:
i have the same problem with gps, also igo gps program locking when it found the port 4, it is awful, i hate the 6.1 also last radio
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gps, igo, all working fine with radio 1.64.06.04 and Confused Stu's Mobile Vista WM6.1 ROM...

NetrunnerAT said:
Try to go back to radio 1.27.xx.xx!
possible the new 1.64.xx.xx have NV item 143 set to 11
If GPS work on your 6.1 Rom with 1.27.xx.xx Radio ... try the modded 1.58.xx.xx Polaris Radios!
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I thought 6.1 won't run on a 1.27.xx.xx Radio, or at least thats what I was lead to believe when reading through the threads (could be wrong), or are they backwards compatible but not forwards compatible?(i.e. 6.0 on a 1.64 radio). *shrug*
I agree with Netrunner though and just try one of the Polaris Radios, which is what I plan on doing when I get home because of the reported successes people have been having. Not sure why you're getting invalid GPS data, what settings are you using in GPS Tool and what other apps do you have running?

Use 1.64.08.21 best radio for 6.1 for bettery performence and gps here is the linkftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Kaiser/Radio/KAIS_Radinly_1.64.08.21_CustomRUU.rar

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i'm using Duttys WM6.1 5.2.19716
Radio 1.58.26.20
GPSTest keep saying GPS Starting up and GPSTool saying Fix not available.
I'm in Brasil.
Will try to get another radio.
Is it important to update the radio before the rom?
[]'s

I found its good updating radio then flash the rom. Lots of problem get fixed.

Go to settings, connections, External GPS Settings, go to Hardware, choose COM4, Baud rate 57600, then go to Programs, choose your preferred GPS program port (I used COM1), click OK.
Run GPS tools, try open COM1, see if it will work.
This is only a temperary solution, for some reason the COM port in the hardware tab will be automatically reset to (none). I still don't know how to make it stay that way. Anybody can help?

tuncayt said:
i have the same problem with gps, also igo gps program locking when it found the port 4, it is awful, i hate the 6.1 also last radio
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Me, too. But after i flashed the radio with polaris 1.58.21.23 one, now the gps is perfect. Try it!

Yeah, interesting. My GPS also doesnt' work properly with 6.1 ROMs. Tried the 1.64's and de Polaris one, they take waaay too long to get a fix, even if there are many satellites available. Will try to flash a radio first then flashing a ROM, as stated in a few post above.

I've tried Radio 1.64.06 & 1.64.08, but GPS still not working.
Radio 1.27 & WM 6.1 will give me No Sounds at all.
I've hard reset after each flashing, run Quick GPS to download data, but still no go.
Will try : Radio 1.58 & changing COM port.

Just came across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1912053&postcount=410
Maybe QuickGPS is not getting the Regional Settings properly and we have to manually adjust it.
It would also explain why some people doesn't have this issue, maybe the 'default' QuickGPS contains specific information to their region, like places "near" the Greenwich meridian, and obviously on the Nothern Hemisphere. At least I suppose that's what it[QuickGPS] does, update some data that help the GPS receive the ephemeris.
Since I live in South America, it would take a little longer for my GPS to get a fix if he thinks he is somewhere in Europe.

jym04 said:
Just came across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1912053&postcount=410
Maybe QuickGPS is not getting the Regional Settings properly and we have to manually adjust it.
It would also explain why some people doesn't have this issue, maybe the 'default' QuickGPS contains specific information to their region, like places "near" the Greenwich meridian, and obviously on the Nothern Hemisphere. At least I suppose that's what it[QuickGPS] does, update some data that help the GPS receive the ephemeris.
Since I live in South America, it would take a little longer for my GPS to get a fix if he thinks he is somewhere in Europe.
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That makes a lot of sense.
I just flashed Dutty's 6.1 with the 1.58 Radio.
At first I thought the GPS was not working ... it took endless minutes before it finally got a fix.
I did see lots of red "satellites" on the GPSTool - Satellite tab.
Just took forever the first time to get a fix.

how i fixed my gps
I have the tilt plus Sleuth 3 (WM6.1). My gps did not work (couldn't find any satellites) with the WM6.1 compatible radio .23, so I decided to try another radio. Alltheway uses .14 and has an Oakland Raiders avatar so I figured since I am in the SF Bay I should try that one first. Bingo, problem solved. Short of it is, just try all the radios to exclude the simplest solution first. There are only 5 or so. I love this site.....its seriously impeding my productivity.

mine ok. but little bit slow to get fix. try use gpsgate.

Cooked ROM based on Vodafone WM 6.1 ROM will take forever to get a GPS fix regardless of the Radio. The only way to get it to work quicker is to run QuickGPS and download the newest data everytime you run your GPS.
Cooked ROM based on the older HTC WM 6.1 ROM is better i getting a GPS fix. At least that is the case for me.

After virtually a whole day re flashing ROMS I think I have now reached a definitive answer to this problem of dodgy GPS performance. I have had the same issues myself getting reliable and quick satellite fixes for my GPS enabled programs. Usually having to resort to launching GPSTools in order for a fix to be established. No more. After reading that re flashing the ROMs could be the answer I backed up the main memory using Sprite Backup, HARD RESET my device then re flashed Radio v1.64.08.21. I then HARD RESET and re flashed Dutty's WM6.1 UC version ROM. As soon as the configuration message appeared I HARD RESET again. I then reinstalled my backup and ran QuickGPS. My GPS performance was faultless Not satisfied with this I did the whole procedure again but this time I tried the Polaris Radio v1.58.21.23 as I had been reading some good reports about it but when I came to test my GPS I couldn't get a fix. I then went through the whole process again using Polaris radio v1.58.25.14. Again this has been reported as having a low battery drain and good reception. The GPS again worked flawlessly.
So there you have it, get backing up, HARD RESETTING, re flashing the radio (v1.58.25.14 or v1.64.08.21), HARD RESETTING, re flashing the main ROM, HARD RESETTING then re reinstalling the backup image.
Let me know how you got on!

New ATT Rom build 19209 tons of fixes and new radio 1.65.17.10

From
Software version
GSM Radio: 1.65.14.06
Protocol version: 25.81.40.02H
CE version: 3.14.502.1
OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.0.2 Build 19209
To
Software version
GSM Radio: 1.65.17.10
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
CE version: 3.51.502.0
OS build: Windows Mobile 6.1 AKU 1.0.2 Build 19209
Issues Fixed
HTC 8925 (1.04.502) - SMS timestamp is not TZ localized
Calendar one hour time shifting issue
Will not reconnect to IMS after exiting flight mode
Incorrect authentication settings used for ims.cingular APN
Inconsistent Power up/Power Down Screens from Previous Software Loads
Rejecting an Incoming PTT Call While on a Voice Call
Change default weather city to empty, so user chooses the city at initial start
PTT button under Start -> Settings -> Buttons, should be listed in the buttons that can be changed by the user
Sends incorrect accept-encoding SIP header
Sends incorrect tel URI when dialing an international number
Adaptive APN doesn't work properly when device is powered up and initially in "no service" state
Sends incorrect codec information in SDP
Did not attempt to register to IMS after re-opening PDP context
Does not reset NC value in HTTP digest after each challenge
When in circuit switch call and then a PTT call comes in and rejected, Audio is routed to speaker phone.
Device shows MSC12
MediaNet home page URL shoud be changed from http://home to http://device.home
When voice command is activated, the user is unable to use voice command over their BT headset (registry setting?)
Keyboard opening audio: request to default keyboard slide audio to OFF
Remove "Getting Started" from rom
Does not include codec profile and level on OPTIONS response
Launcher Tab: The screen rotation app rotates the display in the wrong direction
Data connection disconnects when device goes to stand-by (screen goes off)
Does not retry IMS registrations after receiving a 480 response
Approximately 1 out of 32 IMS authentications fails due to HTTP digest implementation bug
FOTA IOT with Innopath: IOT-FOTA-INTU-11: Flip Cover or Slide Closed during Update. Issue: When slide is open during update device displays 2 screens: update screen on top of the AT&T logo.
FOTA IOT with Innopath: IOT-FOTA-INTU-9: No SIM in the device after successful firmware update. Issue: Described in "Description"
AT&T Ringtone is not seen HTC ITS
[GSM-BTR-1-7962] It should display the full E.164 MSISDN (+11 digit format) in VSC invitation & screen HTC ITS
**WORD OF WARNING**
When flashing this rom, it gets to about 13% and will go back to the bootloader, it stays there for about 30-60 seconds, then will go back to the progress screen and start at 14%. DONT FREAK OUT AND PULL THE PLUG EARLY
**WORD OF WARNING FROM MOD**
You cannot downgrade your radio after flashing this ROM. We advise you to skip on flashing until a solution can be found. You have been WARNED. Temp fix - cooked ROM w/o radio found below. Not sure if it works w/o this radio...
Click me for rom

Thanks I'll give it a flash!
4Shared Mirror <---- Removed

incognitho what can i say but thank you for sharing bro youre the best inside member!!

**WORD OF WARNING**
When flashing this rom, it gets to about 13% and will go back to the bootloader, it stays there for about 30-60 seconds, then will go back to the progress screen and start at 14%. DONT FREAK OUT AND PULL THE PLUG EARLY
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TAKE THE ADVICE FROM THE MOD DO NOT INSTALL THIS ROM, the radio can not be downgraded after flash.

thanks for the find. will check it out!!

THANKS....great find.....LET THE STRIPPING BEGIN!!!

first impression slow and non responsive!

leoiden said:
first impression slow and non responsive!
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DO NOT FLASH THIS ROM

update
AllTheWay said:
Great don't tell me that LOL! Just started to flash.
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deletd all the bloatware from add and remove and made it more stable

list of updated application builds!
Microsoft voice command Build V1.6.19209
Music ID Version 1.2.22
Mobile Instant Messaging Powerd by OZ Version 4.1.6

leoiden said:
deletd all the bloatware from add and remove and made it more stable
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I just soft reset during customization with any AT&T ROM.
Don't need all that crap.
Did you notice the screen that said "The Device is clearing the storage. Please wait."
LOL

Kaiser 1.65.17.10 Radio Only:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387395 - Read this first. You may not be able to flash another radio.
ATT Build 19209 - Radio 1.58.16.27 w/ Custom RUU
http://rapidshare.com/files/109746061/Kaiser-RUU-ATT_Build_19209_-_Radio_1.58.16.27.rar - 1.65.17.10 is not currently working properly. If you want to try this ROM please download this...
ATT Build 19209 - OS-ONLY w/ Custom RUU
http://rapidshare.com/files/109668305/Kaiser-ATT_Build_19209-OS-ONLY-Custom_RUU.rar.rar
ATW... When i tried to change the page pool the default value wasnt there. Try changing the pagepool for us..
I personally havent flashed any of these ROMs. Please report back your findings..

I guess i'll get started on the dumping process
I hate it already.

besides the bloatware what dont you like about this rom?
Did you attempt the other "test" att rom - if so what is your impression between the two?

yes i did bro
AllTheWay said:
I just soft reset during customization with any AT&T ROM.
Don't need all that crap.
Did you notice the screen that said "The Device is clearing the storage. Please wait."
LOL
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for a minute ithought the damn thing was erasing my 6gb microsd card also

gadgetdad said:
besides the bloatware what dont you like about this rom?
Did you attempt the other "test" att rom - if so what is your impression between the two?
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It just a plan old att rom with crap, its also slow, u figure they would at least put a little bit more punch in. I'm just gonna take it apart and see what i can do with it.
thank good for all these great cooks, hopefully ALEX will release his own rom to this.

punkcell said:
It just a plan old att rom with crap, its also slow, u figure they would at least put a little bit more punch in. I'm just gonna take it apart and see what i can do with it.
I appreciate the feedback - While you are stripping it apart it would be great if you could extract the Videoshare from it so that we can use Vid Share on other 6.1 roms
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SH4YD33 said:
ATW... When i tried to change the page pool the default value wasnt there. Try changing the pagepool for us..
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Will do. Still at work for another hour. Will try it once I am at home. Thanks for ripping the radio out of this ROM

if i beat you to it i'll see if the PP is in the same place

did someone see what are two nbh files in this upgrade:
KaiserIMG_CINGULAR_WWE_3.51.502.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.10_Test0signed.nbh
KaiserIMG_CINGULAR_WWE_3.51.502.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.10_Ship1signed.nbh

HTC s640 Windows Mobile 6.1 Release Date?

Hi folks,
Does anyone have information RE: the release date for WinMo 6.1 for the HTC s640? The Touch got its update a few weeks back, can we expect the same?
Telus is promising an update for RevA capability, I assume this will come with 6.1.

Im interested to know as well, been waiting.. and waiting... and waiting and getting very tired. When will we enjoy the upgrage?

Pretty stupid we haven't seen an update for the S640 yet! Telus doesn't even have any 6.1 Smartphone Standard devices... something that I find awefully wierd considering their promotion of WM devices and smartphone in general. This is seriously stupid. Even the old crusty S620 has the WM6.1 upgrade kicking around for it!

ya, new update came out.
and it's a wm6 update.
lol
nice telus.

I just installed the update on my phone. GPS still doesn't work for me; a Telus rep told me it would be included in this update.
No WM6.1 and no GPS. I am very disappointed by this.

quick update... I was able to get GPS working on my s640 using the instructions/apps found in this post: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36639
When using the GetSPC app on your phone, enter your HEX ESN in the top input box, push the left key twice until you don't see a cursor, then click the middle button. There is an "invisible" go button that the s640 doesn't display in this app... it should generate your SPC in the lower box.
I'm able to use both Gmaps and Live Maps w/ GPS now.
Enjoy!

I can verify Tatusmi success with his GPS, I updated my s640 via HTC's website, and followed along the instructions from the link he provided and the SPC program (after figuring it out it was case sensitive).
Good work Tatusmi, a feature that should have always been active now works.

I got the above to work )for a telus s640(. (although I lost everything on my phone because my activesync was messed).
But the HTC update to 3.0 worked great. The GPS enabled instructions worked flawlessly. I got google maps to find 10+ gps signals and was able to find my location.
but, I can't get TOMTOM to work. Won't find the internal GPS
NAV4all just sucks.
I am working on Garmin mobile XT to try it out - but I keep getting stuck with it triing to find a bluetooth unit. And it doesn't give the option to choose internal or com port or nothing.
any ideas?

nevermind, I got garmin to work.
Just couldn't get it to work automatically with some card id or something.
had to open garmin. go to settings -> about -> and the cardid is listed there.
once that is good, everything shows up properly.

I can write WM6.1 rom for s640. My ICQ - 731889 - write to me.

strik3r, I don't use ICQ anymore... can't you post here or use PMs?
Glad I could help you guys with the GPS!

I dont know about anyone else , But id be more excited to see Android on this device then 6.1 .... dont get me wrong winmo is a good plat. But Android would be killer ..
Ive been doing a little research .. and the Htc Vogue has a android version running and you can fallow the few steps to get it running with haret . well kinda .
Anyway just curious to know if anyone else has had any luck with linux on this device or anyone willing to help getting linux running on this device .
L8r

I've received confirmation from telus that they're not going to upgrade the Iris's rom. apparently there were compatibility issues, but i don't buy it.
I think someone should do this themselves, much akin to what seems to have been done in the other forums to other phones aka the 620. I'd do it but I really have no idea where to start.

monofonik said:
I've received confirmation from telus that they're not going to upgrade the Iris's rom. apparently there were compatibility issues, but i don't buy it.
I think someone should do this themselves, much akin to what seems to have been done in the other forums to other phones aka the 620. I'd do it but I really have no idea where to start.
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I also received confirmation from Telus that this phone would never see WinMo 6.1, nor would any of their other existing WinMo Standard devices.
The line they gave you about compatibility is bull though, I called HTC about it and they said there is absolutely no reason why this phone can't run 6.1, it has more than the minimum required hardware.
I'd love to see a cooked version of 6.1 for the phone, but I also don't know where to start. I also don't use ICQ anymore so I can't seek out striker's help. Andrioid would be neat too, I don't have any experience with it... but anything is better than tired ole WinMo 6.

Well what a pissoff. 6.1s so nice. Makes me angry I didn't get a touch

IT WORKS on TELUS S640 with GOOGLE MAPS!!!
Thanks for all the information , I could not locate the driver that was listed in c:\windows\system32\drivers so I found drivers that work. Awsome, thanks everyone. Just a side note to take the phone out of diagnostic mode just ##3424 then hit "send" (same as to put into diag mode).

Confirmation on S640 GPS
i just want to confirm, so the s640 tweak for the gps, worked for telus s640.
i just need to confirm that once this is done, i would be able to use google maps to get my location using the internal gps of the phone or how ?
cause right now i am using a bluetooth gps to get navigation on my winmo. with out having to do anything to the Registrer or any other tweaks.
can you please confirm

typhoonk said:
nevermind, I got garmin to work.
Just couldn't get it to work automatically with some card id or something.
had to open garmin. go to settings -> about -> and the cardid is listed there.
once that is good, everything shows up properly.
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I am wondering if you could help me in getting garmin to work on my S640, as i too am having problems with TOMTOM and GARMIN ?

do you have the REVA update for your phone?
and what have you done so far to get gps to work?

Lost all Sound !!!

Hi All
Software used
JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe
KaiserCustomRUU.exe
Duttys Official WM6.1 Rom 5.2.19716 UC
Radio Version 1.65.16.25
I have tried to flash my phone (which I have done many times) and I have lost all sound from the device. Which mean I cant use it to make or receive calls!! Do you have any advice for this? I usually never have any problems with the Dutty ROMS and I am a big fan of his work so I am sure it’s solvable (I Hope)
Mat

try the camera too, has that stopped working?
as far as i know its a RADIO that stops sounds and cameras.
if so flash with a different radio and see if it helps

I was just thinking that out of interest what ROM and Radio do you use?

hi Mat, i use ROM
REVROM v4.44
off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424158
i use the Diamond skinned Rom.
Radio i use is 1.65.16.25
im on vodafone in the UK if that helps

Hi
Thanks for that it was the Radio
I am now using the same ROM and RADIO as yourself.
But I have noticed a few things the landscape mode loses the use of the keyboard there is no way to load a hotmail email account. And there is no touch flow / cube.
Can anyone recommend a really good ROM and RADIO to work with a Kaiser on the Orange UK network? I really need the GPS to work with TOMTOM.
Thanks Mat

MathewRB said:
Hi
Thanks for that it was the Radio
I am now using the same ROM and RADIO as yourself.
But I have noticed a few things the landscape mode loses the use of the keyboard there is no way to load a hotmail email account. And there is no touch flow / cube.
Can anyone recommend a really good ROM and RADIO to work with a Kaiser on the Orange UK network? I really need the GPS to work with TOMTOM.
Thanks Mat
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Windows Live Messenger Problem

Hi!
I downloaded the new Windows Live Messenger and it works like a charm. The problem is every 5-10 minutes it tells me my connection is lost and it´s trying to reconnect, however the connection had never been lost and it never reconnects. Also the interface becomes glitchy, the soft buttons dissapear, so instead of having a frame around close(when you press the top bar) you only have the word close and touch x taskmanager doesn't have any X's anymore to close applications, only a soft reset fixxes this. Palringo doesn't give me this glitch but I don't like the user interface that much.
Any help?
Thanks!

happens here too its annoying

bigpete78 said:
happens here too its annoying
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I hope there will be a fix soon because I really like the UI, it's great to work with.

msn has been suffereing this issue for MONTHS!!!!!
You're not the only one. I'm on Telus Mobility with the same issue, funny thing is... It actually happens on the diamond and touch pro now on the STOCK ROM!
So it's clearly an issue with the MSN service itself.
They better fix it because i miss it dearly!

mightymike84 said:
msn has been suffereing this issue for MONTHS!!!!!
You're not the only one. I'm on Telus Mobility with the same issue, funny thing is... It actually happens on the diamond and touch pro now on the STOCK ROM!
So it's clearly an issue with the MSN service itself.
They better fix it because i miss it dearly!
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Have you guys looked in the Marketplace and downloaded the latest version?
I recall a post or two previously that were solved by the new one.

rp-x1 said:
Have you guys looked in the Marketplace and downloaded the latest version?
I recall a post or two previously that were solved by the new one.
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I have the latest version, installed it yesterday and the problem is there.

I created a a post in the microsoft forums and it seems updating the radio fixes it but ive just given up and waiting for the nect rom update with the added radio.
Ill dig out my post later.

Radio fix? but I never use the radio application so how is this the cause of the problem?

Bump...........

Any help? How about that microsoft post? Can't find it on the microsoft forums.

Same probs here for already 3 months or so, my Touch Pro also have this problem!
Wtf are they doin at MS ;/

All mine have the same problem.

If I'm not mistaken I've read somewhere that flashing to a new Radio Rom would fix the problem. I'll try this out and let you know how it works out.

BlazinAsian said:
If I'm not mistaken I've read somewhere that flashing to a new Radio Rom would fix the problem. I'll try this out and let you know how it works out.
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is it working? i have also problems with msn

Nth to do with flashing New Radio Rom
This "disconnect" problem has been happening a long long time since i had Dopod D810, Diamond2, and now HD, and the issue never gets away! I thought was the problem with network privoders over my place(HK), it seems actually not as what i thought...i see all of you here got the same issue...so MS what the fxxk, i am considering of iphone...it seems good in some way...hehe..
thanks

MS is sleeping, its a flaw well known even by Wifi will still get lost connection or updating status. It's so damn irritating every now & then need to flip through the chat windows just to refresh the connections. Unlike Android MSN it realy does auto-reconnect upon lost connection or trying to send message until the other user receives it.