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HTC Prophet forum

When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.

I will fully support the opening of this section too.

kta said:
When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.
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Hee kta
So you bought the Prophet (Dopod 818 pro from expansys?). I'm still waiting to fork out the 500,00+ euro's.
Still happy with my Magician.
Is the Bluetooth headset caller id working on the Prophet? (as it was on my P800 2 years ago)
Still little BUGS.... I read device has to be on...
(I keep the device in my pocket off, I want to here who is calling me before I pick up the phone, P800 could do that 2 years ago...)
That would be a BIG + for me to buy the Prophet.
On the other hand I'm missing GPS and 3G. (DECT would be nice 2)
Still hoping a bit for wm 2005 on my Magician or the Bluetooth caller id
to be hacked out of the wm 2005. Although everyone here say’s it’s a hardware problem.
On topic: YES there should be a HTC Prophet forum. I like to read people’s experiences with the device.

there is a special forum for website related matters. don't forget to post there as well.

kta said:
When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.
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Is someone going to answer this?

HTC Prophet Forum
PLEASE....
We want HTC Prophet Forum !!!

YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May we have our VERY OWN Forum here??????
Thanks!!!!
voyager

I read on Mobile-review:
HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance
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So I think that's the reason ad/mod do not want to open a new box for HTC Prophet.

xhuy said:
I read on Mobile-review:
HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance
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So I think that's the reason ad/mod do not want to open a new box for HTC Prophet.
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No no no....The Prophet is NOT equal to the Magician in appearance! The Charmer is. :roll:
The prophet is a bit like in appearance but certainly not equal. :wink:

agree ..
prophet at least had wifi (802.11g)
charmer is really like a copy of magician ...

Please read the review:
Review of HTC Prophet by the example of GSM communicator Qtek S200
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance.
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Re Prophet Forum
Hey all
After a month of enjoyment of my wizard, have just managed to sell it on E-Bay and ordered my Prophet (I-Mate Jamin) of Expansys, as did not find the Keyboard quite as usefull as I thought still could not match CalTech Quick writing as an input system, however nice machine if you like keyboards, just wanted a smaller machine with WiFi and had my doughts about the long term durability of the keyboard & stylus, so come lets get that Prophet Forum going its on releas with expansys on Friday and it is a HTC item unlike the XDA atom, and I think it is going to be very popular amoungst the none keyboarders,
Regards Ash'e

Yes looks the best of the new small wm5 devices. I just hope O2 have it in the UK when my contract is up for renewal. I did email them when I saw O2 Germany was releasing it and, of course, got the pointless reply
> Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service.
>
> I am sorry but we do not have the expected release date for the
> O2 XDA Neo or HTC Prophet.
> Please call our Sales team on 08702 257 879 who will help you further.
> They are available Monday to Friday from 08:30am to 09:00pm and
> Saturday and Sunday from 10:00am to 06:00pm. Calls are charged at
> national rate.

we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum here
Hong Kong-based, but it's all in English... feel free to join us!

Kai920 said:
we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum
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The prophet and the atom are two different devices.

xhuy said:
Please read the review:
Review of HTC Prophet by the example of GSM communicator Qtek S200
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance.
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OK, I've read the review. I still stand by what I said. Also, so Mobile Review it would seem:
The appearance has not changed much from the HTC Magician's time, it just got rounder. Side edges are not splay as earlier, but slightly project. The body is made of a less smooth, almost dull black material (the front part is of metal, and the back and sides are made of plastic).
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It is very similar - but not identical (equal in appearance)
The Charmer is identical.
:wink:

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Kai920 said:
we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum
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The prophet and the atom are two different devices.
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I was merely stating that the forums are active with HTC Prophet & O2 Atom posts.

i created a group of forums for prophet stuff.
willem

Shouldnt this now be moved to that forum ;-)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewforum.php?f=43

looking for info

hi, iv just registered to this site cos im looking for some info, i have an xda11i and i love it but its time for upgrade, O2 have mentioned about a couple of new pda's coming called the 'JET' and 'ICE' but i cant find any info on them anywhere!! can someone please point me in a good direction!!
thankyou

Here's a list of known HTC PDAs with the names given by the various providers: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
e.g. HTC Prophet is sold as Orange SPV M600, XDA Neo, I-Mate Jamin, etc, etc.
Maybe we'll get more info on them soon.

i looked thru the list, but cudnt find these 2 new ones. iv been offered a wizard, or a universal (xda mini s, or a xda exec) does anyone have one of these and what do u think of them?? rememebering of course i already have an xda11i or Alpine as its called!! i wanted an atom but it doesnt seem to be coming out anytime soon in the uk!!

The Atom is not made by HTC but we won't hold that against it. :lol: :wink:
I know three people with Wizards and they are all pleased with them.
The Universal is a bit on the big side if you ask me. :shock:

HTC & WM6

HTC will release free upgrade to WM6 for many devices (Advantage, TyTN, S620, P4350, P3300), bun not for Universal:
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/press/WM6_statement_v6.pdf
However there is the possibility for others devices, so... let's write to HTC for that!
Bye bye

I have spoken to someone who is in close contact with HTC Europe. This document was not supposed to be released yet! It is not official yet and can be changed in the meantime.
Besides that, he told me that e-mailing HTC for an update of the Universal has no use. The only way that might work is e-mailing T-Mobile for a WM6 upgrade of the MDA Pro. If T-Mobile asks HTC, they will do it for sure. And with the resources in the ROM, the cooks can do their work.
So, let's start e-mailing T-Mobile.

robertwebbe said:
I have spoken to someone who is in close contact with HTC Europe. This document was not supposed to be released yet! It is not official yet and can be changed in the meantime.
Besides that, he told me that e-mailing HTC for an update of the Universal has no use. The only way that might work is e-mailing T-Mobile for a WM6 upgrade of the MDA Pro. If T-Mobile asks HTC, they will do it for sure. And with the resources in the ROM, the cooks can do their work.
So, let's start e-mailing T-Mobile.
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Thats a very cool idea.

I wrote to HTC 'cos i have a Qtek...

Well, I have written to T-Mobile....

I wrote to HTC in mid-March and they told me that "There is no official decision yet..." and sugested me to "... check back in a few weeks."
After seeing the draft link posted above, I wrote to them again but have not yet received any acknowledgement from them.

If HTC didnt put the devices in that PDF, than there will be no upgrade (most likely)
I just got the official statement on msmobiles. (lost the URL, so no link)
Edit: Found it http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6269.html

So what was the point of that post? Its the same info (exactly!) as in the first one, so thanks for clearing up nothing!

There are only HTC-branded devices in PDF. No operator-branded ones.

captainsensible2002 said:
So what was the point of that post? Its the same info (exactly!) as in the first one, so thanks for clearing up nothing!
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Well what you added to the thead is ofcourse of great importance.
The only thing HTC leaves open is that it will talk to mobile operators to see if there is a great demand for an upgrade for a certain device. If so... there is a chance that an actual upgrade may appear.
Edit: the link to the PDF is dead.

This link is OK:
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_b_.pdf
It's a copy of the original document.
Bye

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This link is OK:
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/007/04/WM6_statement_b_.pdf
It's a copy of the original document.
Bye
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pessima notizia cazzzz!
bad news by htc
the htc universal is first device running (unofficial) wm6 anyone knows that decision by htc??!!??
any idea??
universal has hw kayboard for messaging and docs, also 3g connection such us other devices that will upgrade with wm6 by htc!!
che minchioni (qui posso dire le parolacce tanto siamo pochi a capirci)
bye

Any news? HTC did not answer me.. Maybe because I have a Qtek 9000..
But I don't know who i have to write to!

I wrote to T-Mobile and HTC. T-Mobile responded quite fast with the answer that there will be no upgrade, and if i have an MDA Pro and I flash a non T-Mobile rom I will get disconnected... Tough talk from them. Thank goodness I have an unbranded Qtek 9000
HTC hasnt answered

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/7852.html
Now release one for the MDA Pro dammit!

Pooper said:
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/7852.html
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Dopod will release WM6 ROMs,too.. There will be no ROM for Dopod 900..
Well.. We can say that will be NO official Upgrade, and so: NO VIDEOCALL.......................................

Qtek 9100 WM 6

Hey guys does know one knows where i can find Qtek 9100 WM6?
i posted more than one Post and didnt get answer
Please

I guess you just have to open your eyes abd READ! It's here everywhere, and even 6.1 popped up a few weeks ago...

i didnt find any
Can you please direct me to the one i want
i did looked and i am nob with PDA

from the XDA Wiki page - the HTC Wizard is sold under the following names...
Sold as HTC P4300
Qtek 9100
Qtek A9100
I-mate K-JAM
T-Mobile MDA Vario
T-Mobile MDA (US)
O2 XDA Mini S
Orange SPV M3000
Cingular 8125
Dopod 838
VPA compact II
So, if your phone ( Qtek 9100 ) is in the list above - then the roms here will work.
So long as you have completed the unlocking process - ensuring you are aware of your phones details ( G3 or G4 model ) etc.
There are some sticky posts at the top of the site that explain in great detail everything required to proceed.
Read them carefully, it is your phone - and your responsibility if anything goes wrong.
Good luck

where is de WM 6 ?

ok, Qtek 9100 is a HTC manufactured phone called 'Wizard' supplied to many vendors/cellular networks all over the world,they sell these phones with their own brands,models and OS,like Qtek,T-mobile,Htc,cingular,i-mate....etc,etc.But the basic device and features are the same and use the same Windows Mobile interface and Rom.
Therefore,all the Roms build for wizards are meant for every brand/model of a 'Wizard' device.Got my point ?
Well,if you are looking for official Qtek 9100 wm6 Rom,then better look in the official website of the carrier of your phone.
All wm6 or wm6.1 roms here are for every brand/model of a wizard.You'll find many excellent wm6 and wm6.1 custom build roms here from many cookers e.g TNT series,Xda Mobile 6,NBD,Jaguar etc etc,they all are cooked for Wizard phones,ok
Cheers!

is the WM6 in Qtek website are free?
is there is any good WM 6 for my device lets me know please
i wanna download and update my device

Frankly, if your phone is fine at the moment and you're such a noob, then I suggest not to upgrade!
WM6 was never officially released for the Wizard, so don't look at the Qtek site, all you'll find is WM5 Roms.
As for a WM6.1 Rom, check either the last one by its right (TNT) or that by Merlin (Slim).
But please READ the Wiki before all!

cyberbot said:
is the WM6 in Qtek website are free?
is there is any good WM 6 for my device lets me know please
i wanna download and update my device
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I can understand that you don't speak the language but I don't understand why you don't read the sticky posts.
I suggest you to leave your device alone before you brick it.
I'll close this thread and don't bother starting a new one.
Read the following sticky if you still want to go through with this : How to flash a new ROM to your Wizard... a little tutorial!
Notice: "Wizard" is your device name(just like the people before me tried to tell you)

Buying PPC - Suggestions needed

Hi
Im currently using HTC Magician but im lookin to buy a better second-hand ppc (i-e which can support later versions of WM).
Wizard and Prophet are the 2 PPCs im considering at the moment
I need your suggestions as to which PPC I should go for (keeping in view the financial constraint) and some points in favour of your suggestion.
Im looking forward to your suggestions
Regards
Bilal

sulehri said:
Hi
Im currently using HTC Magician but im lookin to buy a better second-hand ppc (i-e which can support later versions of WM).
Wizard and Prophet are the 2 PPCs im considering at the moment
I need your suggestions as to which PPC I should go for (keeping in view the financial constraint) and some points in favour of your suggestion.
Im looking forward to your suggestions
Regards
Bilal
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Wow, you really are going for some older hardware there! In fact, it may be difficult to find new Wizards and Prophets!
If you want to save money, you are probably going to be better off at this point going with a Hermes or a Kaiser. I can personally recommend the Hermes as I have had one, but I know lots of Kaiser owners out there who love their machines too. Both are well-rounded machines with loads of functionality. I haven't looked lately, but I bet you could get a new Hermes for around US$300 if you shopped around a little. Kaisers will probably be a bit more.
If you are looking for something smaller and don't need the keyboard, you can probably find a good deal on an Elf.
All three of these models were very popular, but have pretty much run their course. No doubt some merchants who have over-bought these models are trying to get rid of them before they become completely obsolete.

Well that depends on what are your needs form a PPC
Look here and compare: http://pdadb.net/

been a wizard users for the past 3 months, have to say its a nice phone, havent tried the Prophet (yet )
as said above, try to compare both of the phones
edit : saw that ur from pakistan , nice to see ya, im from karachi though..but currently in Bahrain

I just upgraded from a Prodigy/Wizard to a Kaiser/TyTN II. It's a huge step up. I'd recommend a Hermes/TyTN or a Kaiser/TyTN II over a Prodigy/Wizard.
I tried several WM 6.1 ROMs on my Wizard, but development on each halted.

ather90 said:
been a wizard users for the past 3 months, have to say its a nice phone, havent tried the Prophet (yet )
as said above, try to compare both of the phones
edit : saw that ur from pakistan , nice to see ya, im from karachi though..but currently in Bahrain
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Aoa Ather bro
Atlast Ive found another Pakisatni here
Guzashta Eid Mubarak

wsalam to you too , and eid mubarak to you too

larsuck said:
Wow, you really are going for some older hardware there! In fact, it may be difficult to find new Wizards and Prophets!
If you want to save money, you are probably going to be better off at this point going with a Hermes or a Kaiser. I can personally recommend the Hermes as I have had one, but I know lots of Kaiser owners out there who love their machines too. Both are well-rounded machines with loads of functionality. I haven't looked lately, but I bet you could get a new Hermes for around US$300 if you shopped around a little. Kaisers will probably be a bit more.
If you are looking for something smaller and don't need the keyboard, you can probably find a good deal on an Elf.
All three of these models were very popular, but have pretty much run their course. No doubt some merchants who have over-bought these models are trying to get rid of them before they become completely obsolete.
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Thankyou for the reply
I live in Pakistan, there are alot of Wizards available and I can get a second-hand wizard in good condition for $90-100. Ive checked on Hermes, It is available for almost $270-290 (second-hand)
Im giving prices as I want to get maximum out of my savings (same old problem with students!)
I tried e-bay but no one out there seem to ship it to my country

ather90 said:
wsalam to you too , and eid mubarak to you too
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Bhai What about K-Jam
Us pay windows ka kaunsa version chala rahay hain aap?

feanor512 said:
I just upgraded from a Prodigy/Wizard to a Kaiser/TyTN II. It's a huge step up. I'd recommend a Hermes/TyTN or a Kaiser/TyTN II over a Prodigy/Wizard.
I tried several WM 6.1 ROMs on my Wizard, but development on each halted.
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SO which ppc supports WM 6.1 without any problem?
i-e which can be upgraded to WM 6.1?

i got my kaiser for £190

sulehri said:
Bhai What about K-Jam
Us pay windows ka kaunsa version chala rahay hain aap?
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im using WM6.1 on it

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im using WM6.1 on it
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Kaisi chal rahee hai bhai?
yahin se download ki hai?

yep, idhar se hi..lekin mein ek ROM Cooker bhi hun, is liye meine apni khud bani hai..abhi tak upload nahi ki hai magar inshallah baad mein krunga
ye WM6.1 ka section ha, wizard ke liye : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356
English Translation :
yep downloaded from here, as im a rom cooker, im using my own cooked rom, i havent uploaded it yet but i will later..here is a link to WM6.1 section for wizard :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356
Cheers

k thanks (ill request you to give ur ROM when I finally get my new (second-hand ) ppc)
i better reply in english
accepted ur friend request. very kind of you for sendin that
now tell me your final view ather bro
here are my options
- K.Jam
- Jamin
- Jama
Kjam costs around Rs. 6500-7500, Jama goes around Rs. 8000-9000 and Jamin can cost around Rs. 9000-10000
Which one should I get?

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SO which ppc supports WM 6.1 without any problem?
i-e which can be upgraded to WM 6.1?
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The Kaiser/TyTN II is the only one with an official WM 6.1 upgrade. Both the Prodigy/Wizard and the Hermes/TyTN have unofficial WM 6.1 ROMs (made by the cookers here at XDA). Most of the unofficial WM 6.1 ROMs for the Wizard have been abandoned by their cookers.

the kjam is the Wizard, the Jamin is the Prophet
Most of the unofficial WM 6.1 ROMs for the Wizard have been abandoned by their cookers.
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i would angree with that, have you taken a look in the wizards section?, a new ROM releases every day, esp the TouchHD CRS Series

thats why im taking ur expert opinion that which ppc should I buy
just weigh all the pros and cons and gimme a suggestion - ill go for it!

i have a hermes with t-mobile 6.1 ROM. Its a very good allrounder. Decent performance.
I just upgraded to a Kaiser and ams o far very impressed. Big step up in general performance over the hermes. A lot more responsive.
But a good deal more expensive too.
if you can stretcht to a Kaiser i'd get that. otherwise the Hermes is a very capable device.

ELFin
This week a pal bought a Mint ELFin for US$350.00 shipping included via Ebay. I've owned many smartphone and some touch phones...as I keep saying...the EFLin to today is my favorite. Why? Small, with a pcm keyboard, Manila, and a few other goodies, it will give a run to any phone out there on the market.
Paul