Slimest GPRS device w/ wifi and QWERTY? - General Topics

Hey guys I love my Wizard (os xda mini s) but its so darn thick!! I like the other dimensions but the thickness is aweful. Anyone got the scoop on something about 17mm Thick, <60mm Width <110mm Length with QWERTY, WiFi, and windows mobile? Or am I asking too much?
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Thanks!
josh

The upcoming HTC Kaiser fits the bill -- it's about the same size as the Wizard but 5 mm thinner. Here's a size comparison you might find helpful.

even thinner is the herald (P4350) but it lacks alot of the features of the kaiser simply put it is a wizard but slimmer

Eten M700.

Thin unfortunately also means wide and long, especially if you want QWERTY.
Consider the Ubiquio 501 (WinMo5 PPC or 6 Pro): 122mm x 65mm x 14mm

ZSX said:
Thin unfortunately also means wide and long, especially if you want QWERTY.
Consider the Ubiquio 501 (WinMo5 PPC or 6 Pro): 122mm x 65mm x 14mm
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No touch screen

i'd have to go with the wing/herald

Have you considered the S710/730? That has everything you listed except a lack of touchscreen.

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No touch screen
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I have one and I can assure you that the Ubiquio 501 is a Pocket PC/ Professional device i.e. it has a touch screen.
Review here:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5741.html
It now comes with a free WM6 upgrade too (check out Expansys).

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Four New HTC Handsets

P3300 (MDA Compact III), P3600, S310 and S620 officially announced.
Details here:
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/09/07/four_new_htc_handsets/
and here:
http://www.europe.htc.com/products/
and here!
http://mobilitytoday.com/news/006885/htc_new_four
The P3600 looks pretty nice to me..shame I've just got my Vario II though
What is the difference betwenn HTC Tytn and HTC P3600?
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What is the difference betwenn HTC Tytn and HTC P3600?
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p3600 = Tytn without keyboard, I was very disappointed that p3600 (HTC trnity) launched without GPS function!
why p3600 used mini sd card, why don't they keep using same size card. I really like the size of p3600. now make me confuse, TyTn or P3600
Is the P3600 ( AKA: new Prophet ) thinner than the old?
It`s specked at 108 x 58 x 18.5mm (HxWxD).
I don`t have my (Qtek S200) on hand to measure.
I really wish it is thinner...otherwise I see no reason to change phones.
No 3G on my area (yet). A faster processor? not my priority. A better camera? Now that`s something to write home about...lets face it: the old Prophet's camera wasn't really a camera...it was just a round hole on the back of the device that produced blotches of psychadelic colors on the screen.
Give me an S200 clone, 2 or 3 mm thinner, a few grams lighter, and a REAL 2MP cam and I buy one the day it ships.
Tunico

4 new pocket pc devices by HTC

Article from http://www.mypocketpcmobile.com
HTC presented today 07 September 2006, 4 new windows mobile devices. The devices will be sold under the HTC brand as well as customized versions by mobile operators.
The HTC S620 is a thin and light smartphone. It is the first device to feature HTC’s JOGGR touch sensitive navigation bar. Read More…
The HTC P3300 (T-Mobile MDA Compact III) is a pocket pc device with build in GPS. It will have pre-installed the new TomTom Navigator 6 application and will have also pre-loaded the complete set of maps for Western Europe. Read More…
The HTC P3600 is the next generation of HTC’s pocket pc mobiles. It is the ancestor of popular Prophet and Magician. It offers 3G connectivity and it is HSDPA ready. It also carries a 2.0 megapixels camera. Read More…
The HTC S310 is Quad band - high specification candy bar-style smartphone with multimedia functionality. Read More…
I really wish HTC or another company would break away from the classic Pocket PC brick design and come up with something more innovative. Like a clamshell phone model with the same specs as the HTC 3600. Something like the StarTrek but with a touch screen and number pad where the screen could flip around would be awesome.
Ah well, looks like the HTC 3600 is the one to replace my K-Jam since I don't use the keyboard enough. Unless of course someone knows of such a phone coming out anytime soon.
what is the dfference between Tytn and P3600?
HTC P3600 and TyTN
differences of TyTn and HTC at a glance:
same processor,both 3G,TyTN slightly bigger and thicker,2.0 mega pixel camera on both, 2 cameras (rear and front)
HTC P3600
No sliding keyboard
size:Typical: 108mm(L)x 58.2mm(W)x 18.4mm(T)
weight:150g
HTC TyTn
Sliding QWERTY Keyboard
size:113 x 58 x 22 mm
weight:176g
I would consider the HTC P3600 an alternative to those who do not want the sliding keyboard on TyTN, but would like a smaller device.
and have you seen the price tag

is this the best device around right now?

any other pda smartphones around with the same or more specs than the Fujitsu Siemens LOOX T830
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=130765
depend on peoples prefs really
vga, keyboard...
imho it looks as if
1 the screen is tiny
or
2 the device is huge
for my needs it ticks all the boxes i guess BUT after another look mate as you say its pretty big with a not so big screen hmmm ,if only the HTC TyTN had inbuilt GPS
thanks for your input mate

REQ : Best Windows mobile with best touch ?

Hi mates
I have omnia and i love winmo but touch sensitivity in omnia not good for me.
i plan to buy a new windows mobile , i cant decide wich one is better .
I know HD2 is the best but I DONT LIKE THE SIZE OF HD2 ITS SOO BIG FOR ME :-( .
I want to buy a windows mobile with :
1.Powerfull cpu,ram
2.Best touch sensivity
3.Best battery life
4.Goooood software support
now wich phone you prefer to me ?
( HD-mini,OMNIA2,OMNIA PRO,..... or others )
or a android phone with this specifications .
Thaaaaanks
Well, after seeing Reviews for the HD-Mini, it's actually a terrible device. Plus, the HVGA Resolution is like a black-sheep... Almost NO Apps work with the Resolution.
If you want a decent phone, with all of the traits you listed above, I'd recommend either a Touch Diamond 2 or a First Edition Touch Diamond.
The specs are almost 100% the same, but the Touch Diamond actually has slightly better performance & battery life than it's successor (Touch Diamond 2).
The same thing can be said about the Touch Pro and the Touch Pro 2.
wich one is best in software support ?
OMNIA2 or DAIMOND2
I'd actually recommend you get a HTC HD2 since you want something thats got a good touchscreen, powerful CPU/Lost of RAM, Good Battery Life & Software Support.
The HD2 has all of that AND has an enormous screen.. and to support this it has a 1GHz Snapdragon processor (CPU), 448mb of RAM and 5 hours of battery life.
My friend actually bought one and i fiddled around with it and i was absolutely blown away by how responsive his touchscreen was.. i think its a capacitive screen relative to what im used to which (Resistive). It also has multitouch capabilities lol.
Maybe a HTC Desire if you are intrested in android (3.7 inch) or an X10 xperia
Stick with HTC devices like the Diamond2 or the Desire depending on your needs.
which one have more app ?
OMNIA2 or DAIMOND2
Honestly, the Diamond 2.
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Honestly, the Diamond 2.
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I second that

Small phones for 2022

The following message is copied from the Cubot Pocket thread.
Answers were off topic.
To my request, moderator @Badger50 moved them here.
Thank you @Badger50 !
Cubot, if you read us : please make a smaller phone with the same screen.
100 * 52 mm with the same screen should be within reach.
You could even make a smaller phone if you use a screen with round corners.
People who buy 4 inch phones do so because they want a small phone body ; not for the "pleasure" of a small screen. But in the actual lineup, the smaller the phone is, the bigger the borders (and the worse the screen to body ratio) are !
Cobus.
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the smaller the phone is, the bigger the borders
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palm pvg100 or unihertz jelly 2 are already here for you
personally i'd love to get a small hi-end phone with android but market and vendors think differently
The Palm PVG100 is a nice phone but
Android 8
Battery is a nightmare
Screen is a bit small, at 3.3 inch
Screen-to-body ratio is only 61.4 %.
The same body with a bigger screen and a decent battery would be OK.
The Unihertz Jelly 2 is a joke, with its screen-to-body ratio of 52.8 % !
It is even worse than my 10 years old Sony-Ericsson Xperia Active !
Cobus.
ok, balmuda phone then - 77.8% but 4.9''
Thank you for your advice, badcodelab !
I knew the Balmuda Phone too.
Nice screen-to-body ratio, but the Balmuda phone is 123 * 69 mm. The Cubot Pocket is already too big for me at 119 * 58 mm.
And 800 € is too expensive for my usage.
It may be the right phone for you ?
Cobus.
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It may be the right phone for you ?
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nope, balmuda like mode1 grip and other jp phones doesn't support some 4g bands
i would still use my bb q10 if rim released bb os 11 or at least 1 more major update (bb os 10.4)
it was the best phone to me
cubot kkm or pocket has perfect size despite of poor hw
lets stop this offtop please, we won't get what we need
Cobus089 said:
The Palm PVG100 is a nice phone but
Android 8
Battery is a nightmare
Screen is a bit small, at 3.3 inch
Screen-to-body ratio is only 61.4 %.
The same body with a bigger screen and a decent battery would be OK.
The Unihertz Jelly 2 is a joke, with its screen-to-body ratio of 52.8 % !
It is even worse than my 10 years old Sony-Ericsson Xperia Active !
Cobus.
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Did you own the Jelly 2? Why is the screen to body ratio even an issue? As an owner (and previously of the Jelly Pro, the original Atom too) complaining about it in a phone with a notification led and physical buttons and that particular size is meaningless. The Jelly 2 is exactly as it should be - given what it aims to be. (Unfortunately, it has other issues...)
(Get a Rakuten Mini from Japan, then.)
Cobus089 said:
Hello,
Where could we move this discussion, that is now off topic ?
I refused to buy the Jelly 2 because of the poor screen-to-body ratio.
I want a phone that is small enough to fit my pockets everywhere I go, whatever I do (even in a Lycra running short). Its size should not be far from 100 mm high.
But the bigger the screen, the better.
Therefore I want a small phone with a fair screen-to-body ratio.
We see big phones that are almost borderless, with screen-to-body ratios over 90 %, but all phones with screens under 4.5 inch have big borders, with screen-to-body ratios ranging from 49.1 % to 64.8 %.
These phones look like they were produced between 2012 and 2015 (7 to 10 years ago), but they are what you can buy in 2022.
The 4" 1080*540 pixels screen of Cubot Kingkong Mini 1 & 2 and Cubot Pocket could fit in a 100 * 52 mm body (screen to body ratio : 79.4 %).
A 4.3" 1280*720 pixels screen with round corners could fit in a 105 * 60 mm body (screen to body ratio : 80.9 %).
But no one makes these "modern" small phones.
I considered buying the Rakuten Mini (screen-to-body ratio : 63 %), but it doesn't have 2G / GSM capability.
Cubot Kingkong Mini 1 & 2 and Cubot Pocket are among the smallest 4" phones one can buy today. They are not what I want, but I cannot make my own phone !
Cobus.
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It's obviously easier to design a very small phone with a screen that does not take so much real estate, especially if you plan to add notification light and physical buttons. Minimal borders is not a concern for some, like me and others I know.
The more general problem is big manufacturers have all abandoned small phones. The only Apple trend nobody is obsessively apeing. If they cared, a phone catering to your needs would eventually emerge.
Cobus089 said:
I considered buying the Rakuten Mini (screen-to-body ratio : 63 %), but it doesn't have 2G / GSM capability.
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Me too. But I am not certain about the bands working in Europe, otherwise I'd try to get it. But I also don't know where, I could not find any website. iPhone has almost all bands. I see myself buying an iPhone 12 mini before it is gone, because I know in some years they won't be anything of the kind. I don't understand why Palm did not make a new effort at a more appealing device for a wider audience. Size wise I like my old LG GD880 mini, but with today's demands it would be too small to fit a sufficient battery.
A smartphone is about access in your pocket, not the whole office workplace in your pocket.
kkm6761 said:
Me too. But I am not certain about the bands working in Europe, otherwise I'd try to get it. But I also don't know where, I could not find any website. iPhone has almost all bands. I see myself buying an iPhone 12 mini before it is gone, because I know in some years they won't be anything of the kind. I don't understand why Palm did not make a new effort at a more appealing device for a wider audience. Size wise I like my old LG GD880 mini, but with today's demands it would be too small to fit a sufficient battery.
A smartphone is about access in your pocket, not the whole office workplace in your pocket.
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Afaik, the Rakuten Mini is in fact a larger Palm with better battery, that is, made by the company which made the Palm. Not completely sure, though.
In my country (Romania) it worked flawlessly, but I never tested 2G (3G plus 4G coverage is almost complete).
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Afaik, the Rakuten Mini is in fact a larger Palm with better battery, that is, made by the company which made the Palm. Not completely sure, though.
In my country (Romania) it worked flawlessly, but I never tested 2G (3G plus 4G coverage is almost complete).
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I read Rakuten Mini was made by Alcatel for Japan only. They indeed are the same phone, the later with bigger screen and battery.
Cubot promised other smaller devices, but with the "Pocket" name, I doubt we'll see anything smaller and strong. Since the time KKM is on sale, Pocket is a disappointing product for those that already know what it is and have moved on to higher expectations.
Looks like no phone maker can do anything satisfying in the 300€ range.
For now I won't get the Pocket, because i just got a new iPhone SE2, will repair my iPhone SE1 by putting it in an iPhone 5C frame and will get a new iPhone 12 mini in some time this month if I am yet lucky. I am still tempted by Rakuten mini over Palm, and of course theSharp Aquos R2 compact. The Sony Xperia XZ2 compact is too expensive for being so old without support, and is not even supported by Sailfish OS, which is quite frustrating.
landsome said:
he Rakuten Mini is in fact a larger Palm with better battery, that is, made by the company which made the Palm.
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According to PhoneDB, the Rakuten mini is made by Wiko. Wiko belongs to Tinno mobile.
Palm belongs to TCL. TCL owns Alcatel Mobile Phones too.
Anyway, the PVG100 is/was "manufactured by a new Palm-branded startup company from California that is financially backed by TCL and basketball player Stephen Curry."
So I don't think that the same company makes both phones. But I may be wrong.
Why do you say that the Rakuten Mini is in fact a larger Palm ? Do both phones share the same motherboard ?
To me, both phones are small Android smartphones, but that's all, AFAIK.
Cobus.
We are (and have been for a while) off topic. Where coud we move this discussion ?
kkm6761 said:
. I am still tempted by Rakuten mini over Palm, and of course theSharp Aquos R2 compact. The Sony Xperia XZ2 compact is too expensive for being so old without support, and is not even supported by Sailfish OS, which is quite frustrating.
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The R2c is the same gen as the XZ2c, which has been getting official LOS18.1 for a long time now. I reliably get the weekly update. I did not try this Sharp, but had the Rc for a while (Softbank). Nice but quite underpowered and very quirky software wise, with very poor battery on 120hz.
Cobus089 said:
Why do you say that the Rakuten Mini is in fact a larger Palm ? Do both phones share the same motherboard ?
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I said was not sure.
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Cubot promised other smaller devices, but with the "Pocket" name, I doubt we'll see anything smaller and strong.
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Definitely. Cubot has pretty underpowered devices even compared to other Chinese rugged phone makers. They will probably not put a strong CPU in one of their smallest devices.

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