Hey All,
Found out the below from Orange UK Customer services on pricing for PAYG data charges...
£4 a MB!?!?!
I suggest if you're going to use GPRS on an Orange PAYG SIM, buy the Orange World Access 4 add-on package as follows:
1. Orange World Access 4 provides 4 megabytes GPRS (general Internet) or 160 minutes CSD access to Orange World for £4.
2. You have one calendar month from application to your account in which to use your GPRS or CSD allowance. Any GPRS or CSD use over the allowance set out above will be charged at your standard rate.
3. Orange World Access Daily can only be used in the UK. Any GPRS or CSD use outside of the UK will be charged at the relevant current international rates.
4. The Orange Extras terms and conditions also apply. These should be viewed at www.orange.co.uk or a copy is available from your local Orange shop.
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Here is the Email from Orange Customer Services:
Thank you for your mail.
I can confirm that pay as you go GPRS is charged at £4 per megabyte.
The following information gives an approximate example of costs as a
guide:
1 page word document = 20-30 kb's = 7.8p - 11.7p
1 WAP Page = 600-900 bytes = 0.23p -0.34p
1 average website homepage = 34kb = 13.26p
I trust this will be of assistance.
Kind regards
Michele
Orange Customer Services
Query: Dear Sir/Madam,
Please could you let me know what the cost is for GPRS data, using a
PAYG connection. By this, I mean the costs of using it casually and not
part of a data bundle. Thank you.
T-mobile PAYG ftw...
got t-mobiles website at least the uk one will send you 2 free payg sim cards.
put a fivers worth of credit on at ya local corner shop. and there you go one squid a day maximum.. no more whatever ever. Surf away.
For me and all my friends this is far cheaper than any of the subscribtion services.
Edit/Addition from here>>
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/20/three_cheapo_data_plans/
Mobile operator 3 is set to offer budget mobile data to UK punters. According to reports, three new tariffs will see it match the most attractive offerings from T-Mobile, starting from £10 a month. That's the same price that Demon set when it launched its pioneering consumer dial-up internet offering, back in 1993.
At £10 a month, the basic Mobile Broadband package ("Light") gets you 1GB of data, while £15 gets you 3GB, and £25 up to 7GB. Data usage outside these buckets is charged at 10p/MB. 3 will throw in a free USB modem to existing customers, or £29 if you sign up for eighteen months.
By comparison, T-Mobile's Web'n'walk Plus deal, which today offers the best value, permits 3GB for £24.68 (inc. VAT) and 10GB for £37.45 - which means that the "Plus" and "Max" offerings from 3 work out at a lower minimum price per MB. Vodafone offers 3GB for £25 per month, and a curious deal where you get £8.50 for 500MB in a 24-hour period.
It leaves the other two UK operators competing for the dunce's cap. O2 and Orange both offer 1GB for £45 a month. We're excluding plans with a cap in the megabytes, such as Orange's 160MB for £20 a month.
3 will offer the service with five HSDPA handsets, but using the phone as a modem won't incur the wrath of the data cops, as it does with some other networks.
3 told us today that "our pricing has not yet been released and the prices you quote are inaccurate at present
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So if
A) your phone can take the 3network sim cards - iirc my hermes cant for some reason.
B) The deal comes out true.. sounds a bargain to me
As a casual mobile surfer.. I guess on average I use t'internet 3 or so times a week while mobile.. which on average costs me around 1 pint in real money. never reaches any limit restrictions.. havent abused it, but have taken advantage of youtube, google maps, ebay etc frequently.. so for just over a tenner a month you cant go wrong.
Related
www.orange.co.uk/freesimpack
and these are the best on the market today, i changed from o2 300 texts to this,
quick overview, (with what the site doesnt tell you)
You top up by £10 each month minimum and get to keep all credit
£10 = 300 free texts the next month
£20 = 600
£30 = 1000
1mb off free wap each month,
and you need to text something to a number (confirm when register simcard) tied into the first £10 (no extra cost) you get 600 minutes to ring any other other orange phone from 7pm to midnight everyday for the next 5 years.
and finally to cap the deal, 1mb free gprs is fine for wap user phones etc, but those using a pda will realise that running actual web on your phone kills a mb in no time, £1 bolton addable at anytime in the day gives you free unlimited access to gprs until midnight that night, only available on pay as you go and activate through 450 (31411, i think)
Hope this helps, Saved me a fortune, i wanted to upgrade my m1000 (Hymalaya, xdaII) to the m5000 (Universal,exec) but orange could not beat this with a contract deal. the sim cards are normally £1 or 50p each but free at the moment,
The only problem with these Orange SIMs is that they are not 3G, but if you can live with that, then fine.
Hi,
I'm trying to get my sp3 (typhoon) working with gprs so I can active sync with my exchange server and use the email push service.
However I am coming to think this is impossible!
the imate sp3 comes with wm2003 so I've just spent today upgrading it to wm5 which is compatiable with the exchange push email feature. However I can't get GPRS on it.
here are the settings I'm using
10. In the 'Access Point Name' field enter 'payandgo.o2.co.uk'
11. Tap 'Next'
12. In the 'Username' field enter 'payandgo'
13. In the 'Password' field enter 'password'
26. In the 'Server' field enter '193.113.200.195'
Can anyone elighten me to what I'm doing wrong I've got the feeling o2 payg only works with wap and not full gprs data.
No web access on o2 PAYG
I believe that this is due to the fact that o2 pay and go sims only offer WAP access, whereas you require a web connection in order to connect to your exchange server. In a nutshell it's not possible on an o2 prepay sim.
deck is correct!
I had the same problem, and went for an Orange PAYG SIM in the end.
£4 for 4mb will give you over a week of push email and messenger use with 10 to 15 emails a day provided you're not dealing with attachments.
Possibly upto 2 weeks.
If you are having a particularly data intensive day, you can add on a £1 for unlimited (they say unlimited, but I think it's only 25mb) access that will expire at midnight that day, and then your regular £4 for 4mb bundle will kick in when that has expired.
Orange had the best PAYG data bundles I found a few weeks ago.
If you are a very heavy user, I have heard T-Mobile are introducing web & walk to PAYG from the 1st of August, but it sounds expensive to me, they will only charge you for the first £0.75 of day in any day, then the rest of the day it's free, so you're looking at 75 pence per day, that means between £15 to £23 a month depending if you use it just week days, or every day.
OK I found out a little more, it will cost you £1 a day.
"The web’n’walk™ £1 daily rate service combines economy with absolute cost control. Customers can surf, email and check information all for £1 a day. Each kilobyte of data is charged at 0.73 pence, until the customer has spent £1 – after which, customers will pay nothing more for the rest of the day."
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So basically, as soon as you have used 137kb, you are charged £1.
That might be acceptable for an occasional user, but when you are using only 1 or 2mb a day, those costs soon rack up, and that's pretty unacceptable.
I think Orange's choice of £1 a day OR £4 for 4mb to use over a month or until you add another bundle is way better, and more flexible.
thanks for the info guys.
I've got an orange sim on contract that I don't use as it came with a free phone and cash back offer will plug this in and see how much I'm charged. The really anoyying thing is I don't get orange coverage where I live! Only o2 and vodaphone
You're still better off putting a data bundle on, or else it gets expensive.
They have the details on the website, but I think it's still £4 for 4mb, with each additional mb costing £1 on the lowest bundle.
Out of bundle costs are about £3 or £4 per mb I think.
I recently discovered you can use web n walk with a pay as you go sim. The deal is that there is a maximum you can pay each day for usage of £1. This allows you up to 2gb of data per month. So you can get as many payg sims ( say 5 to allow 10gb usage a month) and it will cost you a maximum of £30 month.
If you got on contract with them, you will pay at least £20 month ( i have a vodafone contract for voice data, so web n walk pro would be the option ), but this will be capped at 2gb and if you go outside of their terms of usage, you will lose your whole contract (wheras you can just throw that one payg sim away).
Any thoughts?
Si
Just went in and got one! If you have a TyTn with HSDPA enabled it gives the full speed data. I am on Vodafone and have the 50mb pack which I go over on every month. I also have web n walk pro on a data card but I always forget to take the sim with me with me so this is ideal as a top up for data. Vodafone tell me that they are introducing new data traiffs on the 3rd of september so fingers crossed they'll offer something useful then
Phil
I'm not sure if it's a good deal if you are a light user. 136KB will bring you up to a £1 (0.73p/KB) which is around 3 web pages. Also data roaming is £20/MB.
Orange have a good PAYG deal, for light users - if you get their Orange World 4 for £4/mo for 4MB on top of the inclusive 1MB (if you top up at least £10/mo). Not sure if you get £1/MB if you go over the 4MB on PAYG (you do on contract). Also data roaming is £8/MB (same as contract).
o2 isn't so great - £3/mo for 2MB, or £5/mo for 4MB. Data roaming is £15/MB.
T-Mobile seems good for 3G since it's "unlimited" but you can't use it with your laptop, VoIP or IM.
Agreed - not a great deal for light users at all!
As for the usage restrictions... I wonder how well they monitor it. I've heard people are using the no pro web and walk with a laptop with no problems. Are they monitoring the connections carefully? Also, if you have a payg connection, the sim card only cost £5, so is easy to replace if one account becomes disabled for incorrect usage.
I'm holding out for vodafone to change their tarrifs - having one sim for both web and voice would certainly be the best solution (although I am looking into dual sim shenanigans atm)
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Not sure if you get £1/MB if you go over the 4MB on PAYG (you do on contract). Also data roaming is £8/MB (same as contract).
o2 isn't so great - £3/mo for 2MB, or £5/mo for 4MB. Data roaming is £15/MB.quote]
Also Orange do £1 for a day of unlimited browsing, so you can have your £4 for 4mb add on, and if you are going to use a lot in one day, you add the £1 bundle on, and at midnight, it will switch back to your remaining £4 bundle.
Works out MUCH cheaper than the t-mobile offering, but they don't support HSDPA yet, however this is supposed to be soon, but they do have EDGE in some areas.
O2 don't support full web access on PAYG data, only wap, however you can reconfigure a proxy to get around this, but certain things like Messenger and so on still won't work.
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Hi All,
What is the best Pay as you go sim card deal in the UK? I just need a UK sim card for three weeks. I'm looking for the lowest upfront fee and then cheapest minutes. If it had some data capabilities that'd be good.
Cheers!
Asda mobile is cheap for calls 8p per min and 20p per meg for data the sim card cost 50p in asda stores.But if you use alot of data virgin have unlimited data (well 25mb) for 30p a day but the calls cos 15p per min.
If you know someone under 25, get them to get you a blyk simcard. They give you £15 credit a month without you ever even topping up, and all they do is send you a couple of advertising texts a month.
Only disadvantage is its not 3g
T-Mobile had one of the best PAYG data rates, think it was £2.50 for 5 days and sort of unlimited. Been contract for a while now so not sure if it's still current.
i was bored and was looking aroudn t-mobile uk and vodafone uk.
i found out that pretty much all their phones are free on contract (awesome)
and wireless plans are cheap as heck 60usd gets you 800 min, unlimited texts and internet 60 gets you half that here, if even (heck, it would cost you 35 bucks just to addon unlimited internet and texts)
but now heres where im perplexed, in the us we have unlimited nights and weekends on pretty much all plans and all networks, as well as in-network calling for free.
does that also exist in the uk and europe?
t-mobile used to have those evenings and weekends plans but they don't offer those anymore. Not too sure about Vodafone though.
Free evenings/weekend calls aren't as common on contracts as they used to be, partly due I guess to the increasing headline figure. It is however a releatively common perk on the pay-as-you-go circuit. Top up £x per month, and get free evening and weekend calls.
I can see the logic to it if you assume business users are predominantly on contracts and consumers on PAYG. The business user won't need his work phone out of hours (much), so no point offering unlimited off-peak when you don't have to, and will have their own phone for personal use anyway (part of why there are more mobiles than adults!). The home user is (hopefully!) engaged with work/school during the day, so makes few calls during this period, and if they're a heavy user off-peak, get that as a perk each month when they top up £x.
Also worth bearing in mind with any cross-ocean comparisons is "caller and recipient pay" there vs "caller only" pays here, so assuming an even split of incoming/outgoing calls, 100 minutes in the UK will get you as far as 200 minutes would in the US.
I get unlimited land-line calls on my orange contract - which means that my 800 minutes a month goes very far because only mobile phones come out of that pot.