Database Info

OEM's for Kitchens

Ive had a request from Leo to make a folder for OEM's so I've created the following:
http://vidmes.com/Uni/Kitchens/OEMs
You can upload from there using the following credentials:
Username: [email protected]
Password: oemupload
Address: ftp.vidmes.com
NB: My server only allows connections WITH USERNAMES, so make sure to use an FTP program
NB: This is for OEM PACKAGES ONLY. If you want a program (ie .cab or .exe) uploaded, contact me
CONVENTIONS
Files are to be named "[company] appname versionnum.rar" (eg "ArcSoft MMSComposer 3.5.1.4.rar" OR "MMSComposer 3.5.1.4.rar" OR "Grisoft TotalCommander 1.5.rar") - Try to keep naming the same, if you're uploading a different version of whatever is already there, use the same naming....
Readmes are to be named "[company] appname.txt" (eg "ArcSoft MMSComposer.txt" or "Grisoft TotalCommander.txt")
RAR or Zip files only. With plain-text files for readme's
Folders are permitted, but discouraged. Please just dump everything in the main folder. If it gets crowded, I'll see about folders. But, if everyone follows the conventions, it should stay neat.
Warez\cracks\serials are NOT permitted. I will remove any offending material.
And a final note: If this privilege is abused, I will remove the FTP user, and we'll go back to everyone having to PM me
Turning an OEM package into a CAB
Check out these guys: http://www.ocpsoftware.com/ they make a piece of Software called "WinCE Cab Manager" that allows you to do it. I'm not sure if its free or how easy it is to use - but there is no harm trying!

OEM for the kitchen
Thank you my friend.
Leo

Rock on!
Thanks!
Time for guidelines on structure of OEMs and the ftp folders?
Include readme's with what info?
Naming conventions? (version and enough to know what it is?)
What can't be added (serials, warez?)
Use of folders?
Rar or zip?
(sorry, just trying to keep it quality) ,)

I've uploaded the OEM's from Helmi, they should work in the new Kitchen, too.
Shall I upload some OEM's from other devices, too?
Max

grayme said:
Thanks!
Time for guidelines on structure of OEMs and the ftp folders?
Include readme's with what info?
Naming conventions? (version and enough to know what it is?)
What can't be added (serials, warez?)
Use of folders?
Rar or zip?
(sorry, just trying to keep it quality) ,)
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Guidelines and conventions added to the first post. PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU UPLOAD!!
And one other thing: Donations Welcome - hosting ain't cheap!

GREAT contribution from TehPenguin. thank you.
From what I remember, OEM are slightly different depending on the kitchen you use.
I think that at least are two different. People more involved could confirm this.
I would propose to create folders for the different version of Kitchen/OEM.
It would make everyones work/search easier.
Cheers

ultravox said:
GREAT contribution from TehPenguin. thank you.
From what I remember, OEM are slightly different depending on the kitchen you use.
I think that at least are two different. People more involved could confirm this.
I would propose to create folders for the different version of Kitchen/OEM.
It would make everyones work/search easier.
Cheers
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All seems fair there Pengiun .
The two versions of the OEMs differ in that the entry into initflashfiles to move across the shortcuts to the start menu in the first one went into the initflashfiles in the individual OEM folder on the original Helmi kitchen, but into the single initflashfiles in OEM_Language_0409 (from memory?).
Seeing as how this is for the new kitchen (?), the entry into the single initflashfiles could just go in the readme?
My problem with the old OEMs is that there appeared to be a lot that didn't work, can we only add tested OEMs here to keep it tidy and useful?

I'm just providing the space - so dont ask me too many questions
Personally I believe people should put up what they can, and chuck in the readme's as much information as they can.
If the OEM's need customisations, post them on this thread or in the thread of the relevant Kitchen
If you need to ask questions, direct them to the Kitchen maintainers (eg Leo and Ranju) or the ROM developers (eg Ivan, Midget, JWright, MWang, etc)

grayme said:
Seeing as how this is for the new kitchen (?), the entry into the single initflashfiles could just go in the readme?
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I dind't check it yet, so I can't help.
grayme said:
My problem with the old OEMs is that there appeared to be a lot that didn't work, can we only add tested OEMs here to keep it tidy and useful?
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I would dare to say that this point must be mandatory, maybe even more: only 2 or 3 users (Leo, grayme and Ranju) or the ROM developers should be able to add the OEM to the main folder; everyone else, should have a "test" folder. We take the risk to have a big mess wihout knowing what to pick.
The readme file is a good idea to place all the info needed to work with the OEM.

Hi Ultravox,
Think that building ROM's and building OEM's is always a mather of thrust and a bit experimenting (see if it works).
A OEM needs a 'dsm' and a 'rgu' and sometimes you need to tell initflashfiles.dat where to place the files.
Before I will use a OEM I should always have a look first at the 'rgu' a/o the initflashfiles.txt, if initflashfiles.txt excist I modify initflashfiles.dat.
The only thing that is necassary for the OEM is the initflashfiles.txt (if the OEM needs it offcourse!), if you don't know where to place the files the whole OEM won't work and you need to rebuild.
Cheers,
Leo
ultravox said:
I dind't check it yet, so I can't help.
I would dare to say that this point must be mandatory, maybe even more: only 2 or 3 users (Leo, grayme and Ranju) or the ROM developers should be able to add the OEM to the main folder; everyone else, should have a "test" folder. We take the risk to have a big mess wihout knowing what to pick.
The readme file is a good idea to place all the info needed to work with the OEM.
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ultravox said:
I dind't check it yet, so I can't help.
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It wasn't really a question

Here'yar!
I've added a few files to start off with:
Ghisler Total Commander 2_UPX - freeware 150k
Gábor Kovács Tcpmp 0.72 - freeware 629k
Mort's MortPlayer 3.31RC6 - freeware 741k
SKKV SKTools3.1.3 - very usable demo 473k
vijay555 Hide_Bottom_Bar - homebrew/freeware 11k
I named the readme's 'readme' as that seemed easiest to find them

grayme said:
I've added a few files to start off with:
Ghisler Total Commander 2_UPX - freeware 150k
Gábor Kovács Tcpmp 0.72 - freeware 629k
Mort's MortPlayer 3.31RC6 - freeware 741k
SKKV SKTools3.1.3 - very usable demo 473k
vijay555 Hide_Bottom_Bar - homebrew/freeware 11k
I named the readme's 'readme' as that seemed easiest to find them
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Thx. Good collection!

ultravox said:
only 2 or 3 users (Leo, grayme and Ranju) or the ROM developers should be able to add the OEM to the main folder; everyone else, should have a "test" folder.
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Most of the Kitchen\ROM developers already have their own FTP account and can access their parts of my FTP
This "OEM" folder is the only "public" upload space I have

Adobe Reader LE
Hi all,
Somebody has got Adobe reader LE OEM already builded?
Or maybe the cab so I can build myself?
Would be great !!!
One more question, why is this thread not sticky?
Would be great as well !!!
Leo

Nobody has added any OEMs to the five I put there first time round.

OEMs
Maybe nobody noticed this thread because it's not sticky!
Greetings Leo
grayme;1314261 said:
Nobody has added any OEMs to the five I put there first time round.
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi all,
Somebody has got Adobe reader LE OEM already builded?
Or maybe the cab so I can build myself?
Would be great !!!
One more question, why is this thread not sticky?
Would be great as well !!!
Leo
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Here you go Leo, Official for WM5; http://adobe-acrobat-reader-ppc.en.softonic.com/pocket but im afraid it is not cab.file

Adobe
Hi SteedMo,
Thanks, stupid I didn't think about that. After installing with active sync you can find the cab in Windows\Active sync, if you didn't know that already?
Cheers, Leo
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Here you go Leo, Official for WM5; http://adobe -acrobat-reader-ppc.en...url] but im afraid it is not cab.file[/QUOTE]
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi SteedMo,
Thanks, stupid I didn't think about that. After installing with active sync you can find the cab in Windows\Active sync, if you didn't know that already?
Cheers, Leo
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Geeeez, didnt know that b4... in fact I've been spending time looking up softwares for cab.converter
Thanks for that..

[07-Dec-2007] XDA Mobile 6 Release 4 Cooking Pack

XDA Mobile 6 Release 4 Cooking Pack
Build your own flavor of XM6r4
By popular demand, I'm releasing the XDA Mobile 6 Release 4 (XM6r4) Cooking Pack. Basically, this is just a the ROM / SYS / OEM folders that I used to build XM6r4. Those so inclined, can download this and build their own flavor of XM6r4 and customize it to their heart's content.
NOTE: This is NOT a Kitchen, but is "guts" of the kitchen. I personally used anichillus' HyperCore Kitchen to build XM6r4, and recommend this kitchen. But since most all of the Wizard kitchens I've seen are almost all alike, these folders will probably work in the majority with only minor changes.
How to Use the Cooking Pack
First you need to download a kitchen and install it per the instructions for that kitchen. NOTE: This thread is NOT for supporting kitchens, and is NOT for general questions on cooking. It will be for the usage of this Kitchen pack. I'll reserve the next post or two and will add specifics that are posted about how to make this work with other kitchens if there are changes needed.
After you get your kitchen setup, then download the XM6r4 Cooking Pack. Unzip the file and place the ROM, SYS, and OEM folders under the kitchen directory where it belongs (for HyperCore, these folders will go under the Build folder).
At this point you are basically ready to cook.
Where are the options.xml files???
My style of cooking may be a little different than what some are used to. For me, rather than having a BuildOS that is loaded with lots of options, I personally prefer to have an OEM directory which (in most cases) is what is going into the rom, and another directory for things that won't go into the rom (OEM-Hold or somesuch. Call it what you want). Then all I do is take OEM packages I don't want in the ROM from the OEM folder and move them to the OEM-Hold folder. By doing this, they won't be part of the rom (and you don't have to deal with checking and unchecking things in BuildOS). If you don't like this style, then feel free to create options.xml files for each of the OEM packages and you can then check and uncheck to your heart's content. Some of the packages do have options.xml, so you can use those as examples on how to set that if (if thats what you want).
If you want to add things to the rom, you'll need to create the OEM packages and drop those in the OEM folder.
Final Notes
This is an exact copy of the folders I used in building XM6r4. I have not upgraded or changed anything (so the same bugs and features in the built version will be in this cooking pack). A lot of the pieces originated from mattk_r and theloon's kitchen work for the 318 ROM. Then I've made changes to those bases to create the XM6 series. Most OEM folders found in theloon's kitchen work will probably work with this cooking pack (but no guarantees).
Official Download Sites for XM6r4 Cooking Pack
HTTP Download
Happy Cooking!
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Extras
Splash Screens
Attached are the BMP and PNG files used for the splash screens on XM6r4. While the graphics are not mine originally (I've found them here in the forums but asked permission for their use) some modifications are by me. If you are using HyperCore, there are tools for building splash screens in that kitchen.
NOTE: For me, the first splash screen (the so called HTC Logo, which I used the Cylon image for) tends to be the trickiest one. If the file size and complexity of the graphic isn't just right, the screen will not show up properly. If you are trying to build your own htc logo splash screen and having problems, use a graphic editor to convert it from BMP to GIF. Then close the image completely (important) and then reopen it, and then convert the GIF back to BMP. This will sometimes work. If not, then convert the image to a jpg and increase the compression level to be below 50% (the image will start to get grainy and not look as good so you'll have to play around with this). Then close the image and then reopen the jpg then convert it back to a BMP and try again.
Corrected Arcsoft MMS Folder
You can download the Corrected Arcsoft MMS Folder from HERE. Then just extract the contents of this zip file to your OEM folder and it will replace the existing Arcsoft MMS folder. This will fix the bug that was in the original XM6r4 rom. Note that due to filesizes in this patch, you will NOT be able to rebuild a full XM6r4 with this patch. You will have to remove something else as the patch makes the entire rom too big.
Basically this patch is an example of the dangers of compressing things. I had compressed some of the larger MMS files, and it turns out that this broke parts of the MMS application.

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Thanks...
downloading the cooking pack right now...
love your work...
and thanks for sharing the pack and the roms...

Do these folders have the mms folder fix that was an addon cab in the R4 thread?

thx mfrazzz,
this is the best "Sinterklaas kado" (it's typical dutch) I could get. I've alway great fan of your rom and customized to my own settings.
one question, your three start up screens, are they included? because there are nice.

I just hope this doesn't mean you're not going to develop for the HTC Wizard anymore ...
I am convinced that this is a great base ... so ...this means you're Santa and you came early this year
Take Care !

anichillus said:
I just hope this doesn't mean you're not going to develop for the HTC Wizard anymore ...
I am convinced that this is a great base ... so ...this means you're Santa and you came early this year
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Lets just say that "Santa" hasn't come yet (its only 8-Dec after all!!!)
I meant to do this after XM6r3 but just never got around to doing it. Wanted to release this now before I started doing anything else.
famewolf said:
Do these folders have the mms folder fix that was an addon cab in the R4 thread?
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Nope, they don't. I'll update the second post with the replacement files for the MMS folder. Thanks for reminding me. Watch for this later today / tonight (US Mountain Time).
daheufster said:
this is the best "Sinterklaas kado" (it's typical dutch) I could get. I've alway great fan of your rom and customized to my own settings.
one question, your three start up screens, are they included? because there are nice.
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Thanks for that! And thanks for the reminders of the splash screens. I'll upload those later too.

The second post has been updated with a file containing the splash screen graphic files, and a download link for the XM6r4 patch (which is just a replacement of the Arcsoft MMS folder in the OEM packages).

Are the splash screens just BMPs with the extensions changed?
I've tried several times to make a flash that JUST changes the splash, and what I get simply won't load - it goes to 90% and freezes....... 320x240, BMP, 24 bit color depth - which should be right.....

Genesis3 said:
Are the splash screens just BMPs with the extensions changed?
I've tried several times to make a flash that JUST changes the splash, and what I get simply won't load - it goes to 90% and freezes....... 320x240, BMP, 24 bit color depth - which should be right.....
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No, you have to "cook" the splash screens. In HyperCore there is a script to help you do this. Or the old tried and true way that I've used in the past is from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284006&highlight=splash
But its not just changing the extensions... You have to build the .nb files that then get built into an .nbf file.

Aha! Grabbed the other package... thanks.
BTW, the Hypercore Kitchen is flagged as having a nasty Trojan embedded in it by my antivirus software..... your R4 kit doesn't work with the 1933 kitchen..... it appears to, but doesn't build the image - it looks like there are some missing pieces......
Oh, it also doesn't work with Faria's kitchen..... hmmm.... are there things missing in general?

Genesis3 said:
Aha! Grabbed the other package... thanks.
BTW, the Hypercore Kitchen is flagged as having a nasty Trojan embedded in it by my antivirus software..... your R4 kit doesn't work with the 1933 kitchen..... it appears to, but doesn't build the image - it looks like there are some missing pieces......
Oh, it also doesn't work with Faria's kitchen..... hmmm.... are there things missing in general?
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Try the following:
Grab the r4 rom...extract the rom to the kitchen of your choice then replace the folders using the r4 kit provided...then replace the mms folder (fix) then tweak.

Uh, what tool do I use to extract the rom?
That one's a new one for me

your roms is very nice and thanks for sharing the pack !!!

Genesis3 said:
BTW, the Hypercore Kitchen is flagged as having a nasty Trojan embedded in it by my antivirus software..... your R4 kit doesn't work with the 1933 kitchen..... it appears to, but doesn't build the image - it looks like there are some missing pieces......
Oh, it also doesn't work with Faria's kitchen..... hmmm.... are there things missing in general?
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I haven't downloaded the HyperCore Kitchen lately, but there was no Trojan or Virus in it previously (a few months ago). What antivirus software are you running? I know in the past some kitchens (I believe Faria's did this too) were flagged with virus and stuff when they really didn't have them.
As for the 1933 kitchen, why does it now work? Can you give more specifics? Sometimes some of the kitchens just require the os.nb file to be named differently in the ROM folder.

BuildOS appears to run normally but the CreateROM program fails with an error.
I will see if I can figure out what's up with it....
If its just a naming problem that's easy enough to fix.

Genesis3 said:
BuildOS appears to run normally but the CreateROM program fails with an error.
I will see if I can figure out what's up with it....
If its just a naming problem that's easy enough to fix.
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Is the error near the end of task? When CreateROM fails with an error normally this is caused because the amount of extra OEM packages exceed the maxium ROM size. When this occures CreateROM gives an error.

No, it was right up front, but it appears that I found the problem - it was a rename on the original OS file that was required.
It builds now..... I need to sort out the size issues (they're still there) and then play with this .vs. my 1933 custom hack job to see what I prefer.
The only "gotcha" I have open on my 1933 build right now (a mix of V1 and V2 which appears to work very well in general) is that the camera won't record video - there are obviously some DLL problems somewhere, and just stuffing the Camera 3 package in there from some of the other kitchens does not fix it - so its in the base OS somewhere.

dang I been trying to figure this out all day.
I copied the oem and sys folders into the hypercore build directory, put in files that I did not want into the package folder, but I dunno how to build the os from there

How to get OEM Cabs?

How does one extract a CAB from a ROM?
For instance if I want to cook my own ROM, but I want to use some of the applications in say Dutty's latest release, how do I get those cab packages to install on my own?
Particularly, i am interested in pulling the latest remote desktop off of the latest test Tilt ROM because it has the ability to map the mobile's local storage.
thanks!

one word: RTFW.
Read The FFing Wiki!!

If I could find it on here I wouldn't have posted asking about it.
This is the first of my posts that have been met with a response like this, but honestly go troll somewhere else. It is 0% productive to make responses like that. You are cluttering up the forum with usesless posts (as much as I would be guilty of if this is indeed described in the wiki). If it's in the wiki, why don't you point me to where?
The wiki isn't a single page as much as you'd like to believe, it' links to hundreds and thousands of posts of information.
I have CIM and SIM unlocked my device, flashed about 5 different ROMS and radios and done numerous other things with info I have gotten from the wiki. I read through the ROM cooking kitchen tutorials, but could not find anything which mentions my task at hand. I found information and links on the cooking tutorials to use OEM cabs that people had already extracted....but what if the one I want isn't there? Where is the info that tells me how to pull one OUT of a ROM (instead of putting one already extracted IN)?
So, either you are misunderstanding what i want to do, or else the way i am phrasing it is misleading, both to you and to myself, which is maybe why i can't find the info I want.
So, please your brilliance, point me to location in the Wiki that would describe a procedure where i would be able to extract a .CAB (like Windows Mobile Desktop) from the latest AT&T test ROM.
Otherwise your contributions to this thread are unwanted.

while maarten might have pointed you in the wrong direction, your thread is still a redundant one. if you tried to search, you will find lots of threads covering this subject. and yea, your search results are probably gonna end up with tons of threads that end up looking like this thread, but if you sift through the results.......and by sift i mean u really really sift, i promise you, you will find something useful.

Simple Answer...
...You can't extract a CAB from a ROM usually.
Explanation: In the ROM itself things like windows live are extracted from the CAB already and are installed, so the CAB itself is not there. If your original question was how do I extract the files needed to MAKE a CAB.. then that's more complex, a different question, and a waste of your time if you don't already know how to do it.
If you really want to learn you will have to search.. if you just want a CAB of the latest windows live messenger get the build number by installing the ROM and looking in the application for it.. then use the google search of xda-developers (e.g. "Windows Live" <build number> )and you can be sure you will find someone has already done the hard work for you.
hope that helps.

You find threads on converting CAB's to OEM packages but not the other way round.
The trouble is when you extract a ROM, you'll probably find in the SYS directory, the OEM folder you want with all the relevent files. BUT you won't know where they all go. And if the files you want are in the OEMApps folder you won't know what files need to go together. What I do is look at a similar OEM package (See Alex's excellent work) and this will show the files you need, where they go plus any registry settings. You can probably copy over the newer files from your extracted ROM to the OEM package, overwriting the older files.
If the OEM package doesn't exist it will be a long, long job!! You need to search through the files on a device with the installed ROM and make a note of the location of the application files - this is required for the install.txt file. The next problem (& the major one) is to find any relevant registry settings - again you can search through the registry of the installed ROM. Now all this take a lot of time and effort...

odyseus said:
The next problem (& the major one) is to find any relevant registry settings - again you can search through the registry of the installed ROM. Now all this take a lot of time and effort...
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You can cheat a little bit here though, some apps will recreate any missing entries with sensible defaults if you leave them out.. others wont.. for those you can find ANY version of the CAB that you want to use (even an older one say) and use its registry as a guide to where to find the ones for the new version.. the registry locations dont change that much between versions usually.
you'll still get issues.. but in most cases this helps if not works

Thanks for your info sambartle and odyseus. I had feared as much based on what I had found through search already, but thought there might have been a way... I guess _Alex_ and others do quite alot of legwork to extract and make all these things themselves.
I can't quite understand it however.... If I take a windows PC for example (which is similar in it's registry) I couldn't necessarily find all the associated files and registry keys associated with an application. If you are lucky they are all under one folder and one key of the registry... but something like MS Office installs so many shared files, and classes objects into the registry it would be nigh impossible to recreate that (even given the time).
Unfortunately, if the last posts I read are accurate the developers here won't be providing new OEM dumps for a while. Maybe once 6.1 is more widely released microsoft will allow download of the new mobile desktop.
Ah well, thanks for your help.... and to the other posters...it's worthless posts like yours that contribute nothing to the forum that makes extracting useful information through the forum more difficult than it should be.

bengalih said:
Thanks for your info sambartle and odyseus. I had feared as much based on what I had found through search already, but thought there might have been a way... I guess _Alex_ and others do quite alot of legwork to extract and make all these things themselves.
I can't quite understand it however.... If I take a windows PC for example (which is similar in it's registry) I couldn't necessarily find all the associated files and registry keys associated with an application. If you are lucky they are all under one folder and one key of the registry... but something like MS Office installs so many shared files, and classes objects into the registry it would be nigh impossible to recreate that (even given the time).
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It requires alot of testing and re-installing or re-flashing, sometimes on the same ROM, sometimes on different ones, just to iron out the bugs. It's one of the reasons why I released AT&T and HTC versions in the past, just so that I can have two platforms to test on.
Windows CE is alot simpler than Windows XP by at least 10 fold. Yet there are people who have created portable versions of Microsoft Office through the use of deployment applications like thinstall, so anything *IS* possible, with automation.
Automation that works at the functionality of thinstall for CE doesn't exist because of economies of scale (e.g., it's not worth any developer's time to create a deployment package as robust as Thinstall for the PPC).
bengalih said:
Unfortunately, if the last posts I read are accurate the developers here won't be providing new OEM dumps for a while. Maybe once 6.1 is more widely released microsoft will allow download of the new mobile desktop.
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Dumping and stripping is relatively easy once you've gotten the hang of it. You just need to keep at it.
Personally, I just don't find it to be challenging any more, since I've done quite a few AT&T/HTC WM6.0s and HTC WM6.1s and I'm now waiting for an official shipped version (no more leaked betas!!!).
bengalih said:
Ah well, thanks for your help.... and to the other posters...it's worthless posts like yours that contribute nothing to the forum that makes extracting useful information through the forum more difficult than it should be.
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Your initial question / thread starter didn't have many details, so I would have flamed you too, although I would have also provided a link to my OEM Package Tutorial (Creating Packages from ROM files section)
It never hurts to be overly verbose when asking a question. This would make the flamers leave you alone (because they'll just get tired of reading) and should *NOBODY* respond within a couple of days, when you bump it (with flowery encouraging yet challenging words, like 'You guys are so great, but nobody could answer my question?'), nobody will mind that you did, and you will get answers after that bump...
FWIW, I still think this should have been a question asked in the OEM Tutorial thread, which I have subscribed and respond to much more frequently than new threads which I'm not aware of until I actually have the time to READ new threads. It's also because, should anyone have similar questions, it'd be much easier to fiind in the bigger OEM Tutorial thread than in this one...
Hope this helps!

Thanks Alex... as you said you would have provided me the link to your Creating Packages from ROM section which I did gloss over briefly previously but didn't totally see how it helped me (since I was looking for Cabs). But, now that you point me there I again I took another look and got some useful information.
So this is where i am at:
Ok,
So first I extract the ROM using your kitched script, then in the SYS folder I find two folders that seem to be what i want:
RemoteDesktopMobile
RemoteDesktopMobile_Lang_0409​
Inside the first folder are subfolders with names like:
MvkLib.dll
and
wpctsc.exe​
and inside those are an actual DLL or EXE file, and some other files called imageinfo.bin, imageinfo.txt, and some files S001, S002, s003, etc...
I am going under the assumption that all I need is the .DLL file, and the rest are some sort of uncompiled form of the DLL? (Please let me know if i need to pay attention to those other files.)
So I take all those DLL and EXE files. I also look for and find an INITFLASHFILES.DAT and don't see any references to these files, so i assume they all go in \WINDOWS?
There is also an RGU file inside here that has a few registry keys for this application.
Inside the second folder is just a DSM, and a couple of .txt and .htm files. Since these files aren't in INITFLASHFILES.DAT either, I assume they just go in \WINDOWS?
I also find a provxml file in \OEM\OEM_Lang_0409 called mxipupdate_RemoteDesktopMobile.provxml.
The contents are:
Code:
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="FileOperation">
<characteristic type="%CE11%" translation="install">
<characteristic type="MakeDir" />
<characteristic type="Remote Desktop Mobile.lnk" translation="install">
<characteristic type="Copy">
<parm name="Source" value="%CE2%\wpctsc.lnk" translation="install" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
Based on my reading of the links off your page and some further research this file seems to say the following:
Make a directory (if it doesn't exist) called \Windows\Programs (%CE11%)
Make a shortcut in the directory called Remote Desktop Mobile.lnk (the decimal ASCII text) that maps to \Windows\wpctsc.lnk (%CE2%)
So... now I have:
A handful of files...I need to put them in \Windows
I have an RGU file with a couple registry entries I need to import into the registry
I need to make
a shortcut to the exe int the \Programs directory
How then do I now package all this up into a CAB that will automatically perform the above operations?
I know about "makecab" to actually package all these up into a cab. But how to i write the command file that tells it how to do all the provisioning and registry entries?
Please let me know I am on the right track.
Thanks!

Ok...I found a program called WinCE Cab manager that made the process pretty easy. I installed it on my device and it seems to work well.
I have uploaded it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/104977265/Windows_Mobile_Desktop_6.1.cab.html
Where is the appropriate place to post this to share with others?

yeah like people have said dumping the rom is the way to do it but most roms nowaday dont have the files for you to recook(so no oems)
so the best thing is to do is get the cab yourself and convert it to an oem with ervius's package creator

sorry kidnamedAlbert...I'm not sure where you were getting at there... the whole point of my post was how to get those cabs made from the ROM in the first place. As you can see from the previous posts it seems I have already resolved (or started my way to) getting this done.
Personally, i prefer to have the cab file as I am more interested on just being able to install it on my device then cook it into a ROM. If someone wants to cook it into a ROM that seems to be a well documented procedure if the cab file is already available.
In my case, there was no cab file available for the latest version of Windows Mobile Desktop...so i made my own from the ROM.

Maarten_0031 said:
one word: RTFW.
Read The FFing Wiki!!
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One word: RELAX and STOP SWEARING, geez.

3.55.502.01 BASIC WWE ROM (19214) [12Mbyte Page Pool] ** 6 Versions NOW AVAILABLE **

Firstly:
Sorry for the confusion I was not aware that "NO THRILLS" which is what I originally called this Basic ROM was someones 'Trade Mark'. Please forgive me for stepping on any toes, it was not intentional, and not intended to take away from anyones well earned glory. Sorry all!!.
So Here it is:
This is my first ROM I've put up for Download. I've been playing about with these ROMs for quite a while and I have really appreciated everyones help in developing wonderful tools and freely distributing them here.
XDA-Developers is just brillient
So This ROM is based on the latest ATT build (3.55.502.1) I have removed all of the ATT bloat ware, and several applications listed below, and left the ROM open for customizing. I have often found that Most ROMS have only the 5 tab Home, and the older Task Manager etc, so I have removed all traces of these applications and simply left the ROM barebones, so people can just add applications as needed.
Applications removed:
ATT Music Shop
ATT Games Shop
ATT Mobie TV
ATT Music ID
ATT Mall
Real Player
HTC Home
HTC Today Plug-in
HTC Task Manager
Windows Music Player Plug-in
Microsoft Welcome Center
Applications Added:
SDAutoRun
Windows Vista Wait Cursor
Windows Media Player Compatability Upgrade (now plays mp4 video)
Screen Capture App
Reg Editor
This ROM does run 2 additional small Cabs after first installed, these are adding small settings for the ATT network. These Cabs DO NOT AFFECT any none ATT users. Hence this ROM can be used on all carriers that I am aware of.
This ROM is compatible with all the 1.65 Radios. I have not Tried the 1.58 yet, but I have tried the new 1.71 Radio and that one is also compatible with this ROM.
Voice Command and all the OFFICE applications are still there, as is NETCF2.0
I have uploaded two copies, one with the radio, and one without.
I am planning on doing a fully loaded ROM soon based on this acrhitecture.
Please let me know what you guys and girls find with this new ROM
Thank you
Download Links are Below.
Rapid Share!!
NO NETCF Version
ROM (no Radio)
ROM (+ Radio)
NETCF 2.0 Version
ROM (no Radio)
ROM (+ Radio)
NETCF 3.0 Version
ROM (no Radio)
ROM (+ Radio)
4Share Mirrors
NO NETCF Version
ROM (no Radio)
ROM (+ Radio)
NETCF 2.0 Version
ROM (no Radio)
ROM (+ Radio)
NETCF 3.0 Version
ROM (no Radio)
ROM (+ Radio)
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Reserved
Reserved for ROM issues Reported
First Issue Reported.
I called this ROM a NO THRILLS Rom. Sorry for any confusion but this rom is in no way associated with the Master Chef "NoThrills". Please forgive me if I mis-represented this ROM. I simply ment that it was a stripped down ROM with only Basic Apps installed. In England where I am originally from No Thrills means just that, "very basic". Which is why I used the term. I was not aware until recently that "NoThrills" was a xda members name.
However, NOTATreoFan is dead right its "No Frills" I was thinking of. Doh!!!!! Trust me I program better than I apparently speak !!!
Sorry for the confusion NoThrills. Please don't hate me, i'm just stupid
Problems Reported So Far
None, However some poeple have commented on various NETCF configurations, hence the list of availlable versions has been updated to accomodate these requests.
Now you can have :
No NETCF
NETCF2.0
NETCF3.0
Enjoy!

Thx M8, I'll give it a go...

wich no thrills rom is this based on because its not v3? or is it just the no thrills concept

No offence but for me this shouldn't be named "No Thrills". everyone should know why... its just... dunno how to name it even...

neva dinova said:
wich no thrills rom is this based on because its not v3? or is it just the no thrills concept
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This isnt the "No Thrills" that you think it is, it looks like we have a new chef which is great but I agree that this should prob be changed from "No Thrills" that is of course you want a cluttered thread with questions like the above. Its always nice to have another chef though, Ill give it a whirl if I get the time.

Finaly????

xmoo said:
Finaly????
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This is not No Thrills Rom.....!

He can rename it to No Frills. Oh wait... that would confuse people who shop at Pathmark and buy their house-brand products...

swtaltima said:
This isnt the "No Thrills" that you think it is, it looks like we have a new chef which is great but I agree that this should prob be changed from "No Thrills" that is of course you want a cluttered thread with questions like the above. Its always nice to have another chef though, Ill give it a whirl if I get the time.
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I hate to be that guy who says "I told you so" but, I told you so LOL

You are right. I was not aware until just now that NoThrills was someones call sign. I have changed the name of the file and printed an appology in the listing.
Thank you for your comments.

Like yourself...I'm anxiously trying and struggling to become a avid chef in cooking ROMs. Is it possible that you could direct a noobie like me to a tutorial or Wiki about what steps you took to take out most of the different AT&T apps and such? This is something I've been trying to do for some time now and have failed at almost every attempt. Any help would be greatly appreciative so that I can further my cooking expertise. If you don't know where to find information could you possibly post a Wiki or tutorial on how you done it yourself?
EDIT: Can someone mirror this through MegaUpload? Rapidshare keeps giving me an error.

walkeraflyer said:
You are right. I was not aware until just now that NoThrills was someones call sign. I have changed the name of the file and printed an appology in the listing.
Thank you for your comments.
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Great Entrance, Anthony, but I welcome your "stripped" WWE Rom to the Kaiser community..
Great stuff for those who like it plain and simple.
Good to see so many new chefs around.
Look forward to seeing more of your work in future.

WIzard200x,
"Stripped" .... Yes that would of been perfect
Next time, I will think a little harder before giving my creations a name.
Thank you everyone for your understanding !!

walkeraflyer said:
WIzard200x,
"Stripped" .... Yes that would of been perfect
Next time, I will think a little harder before giving my creations a name.
Thank you everyone for your understanding !!
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Could you help a fellow new chef out and give me some pointers on how you edited some of the files?

HEdwards2008 said:
Like yourself...I'm anxiously trying and struggling to become a avid chef in cooking ROMs. Is it possible that you could direct a noobie like me to a tutorial or Wiki about what steps you took to take out most of the different AT&T apps and such? This is something I've been trying to do for some time now and have failed at almost every attempt. Any help would be greatly appreciative so that I can further my cooking expertise. If you don't know where to find information could you possibly post a Wiki or tutorial on how you done it yourself?
EDIT: Can someone mirror this through MegaUpload? Rapidshare keeps giving me an error.
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Hi,
I'm not sure if there is a quicker way to do it, but for me it was a case of locating each and every file for the apps not wanted and deleteing them. Then I went through each rgu file and removed all entries concerning the programs no longer installed. You also have to go through each provxml file to locate any references in there as well, otherwise the rom might develop instabilities. I also did some very minor dsm extractions.
My ROM will decomplie again, so if your looking for a basic architecture to begin on, download my rom and extract it.
Hope that helps

walkeraflyer said:
Hi,
I'm not sure if there is a quicker way to do it, but for me it was a case of locating each and every file for the apps not wanted and deleteing them. Then I went through each rgu file and removed all entries concerning the programs no longer installed. You also have to go through each provxml file to locate any references in there as well, otherwise the rom might develop instabilities. I also did some very minor dsm extractions.
My ROM will decomplie again, so if your looking for a basic architecture to begin on, download my rom and extract it.
Hope that helps
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What did you use to view the rgu, provxml files, and dsm files?
I keep getting an error saying that I'm already downloading a file from RapidShare when I try to download either version

HEdwards2008 said:
Could you help a fellow new chef out and give me some pointers on how you edited some of the files?
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Which files are you refering too :
I used notepad for the following files
.provxml
.rgu
and a HEX editor for:
.dsm
I can not report to much success with the dsm files. My knowledge of this area is limited. I was able to remove some lines that were not wanted, but some of the files did not translate well.
Hope that helps

That helps me out quite a bit. I'm going to retry what I've been battling all night and see what I can come up with

HEdwards2008 said:
What did you use to view the rgu, provxml files, and dsm files?
I keep getting an error saying that I'm already downloading a file from RapidShare when I try to download either version
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I will post some mirrors, please hold. I will edit this post when I have them uploaded.
4Share Mirrors
Without Radio
With Radio

Is it at all possible to merge multiple cab files to create a single cab?

What I am interested in doing is taking multiple cab files and then merging them into a single cab file so rather than having to install multiple theme tabs i could just install a single file which would make the whole process simpler after a hard reset to get all my things reinstalled.
I'm a bit of a noob and have searched through the forum but havent really found a noob's walkthrough although i have found usefull posts they arent exactly what i'm looking for, i'm sure other members would find this really usefull too if its at all possible.
It could also be helpful for installing multiple applications at a time.
I appreciate that people dont have the time to sit and talk me through the whole process but any information you could give would really be appreciated.
I've attached the files that i would be interested in merging. I'm not looking for anyone to do the work for me i'm just interested in any knowledge of the process that you may have to offer.
Thx
Alex

Doobee24 said:
What I am interested in doing is taking multiple cab files and then merging them into a single cab file so rather than having to install multiple theme tabs i could just install a single file which would make the whole process simpler after a hard reset to get all my things reinstalled.
I'm a bit of a noob and have searched through the forum but havent really found a noob's walkthrough although i have found usefull posts they arent exactly what i'm looking for, i'm sure other members would find this really usefull too if its at all possible.
It could also be helpful for installing multiple applications at a time.
I appreciate that people dont have the time to sit and talk me through the whole process but any information you could give would really be appreciated.
I've attached the files that i would be interested in merging. I'm not looking for anyone to do the work for me i'm just interested in any knowledge of the process that you may have to offer.
Thx
Alex
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Simplest and easiest thing to do is to use UC to install all these cabs automated style when the ROM boots up. I am assuming you are using a ROM which is UC compliant (all the official ones arent.....the cooked ROMs are mostly UC compliant though).

The 'hard' way is analyzing the cab's -> extracting files/reg-entries -> rebuilding the cab-files to one cab.
Theoritically it's possible with a program like WinCE Cabmanager but it is a hell of job I think.
I would go for the UC-option mentioned by MrVanx. I use it myself and it works like a threat (you have to get familiar with wap-provisioning and stuff but it's worth the journey)

Ive tried using a few of the cooked roms over the past couple of weeks but to be honest they dont work all that well for me, none of them seem to work with msn (which is something i use all the time) i always get error messages saying that it cant find a data connection even through wifi which is always setup properly as i can search the net quite easily and have verified that the wifi is working and searched through the rom threads for fix's and all ive seen so far is that this seems to be a bit of a problem for a number of users, some fixes work for certain members but it doesnt for others, unfortunatly i'm one of the others.
Currently using Vodafone UK 1.90.161.5 stock rom.
I think the WinCE Cabmanager approach mite be the best option for me as i'm still a bit of a noob with regards to things and as most of the cabs i'm interested in merging are simple theme cabs so it shouldnt be that much of a task (gulps)
Are there any good tutorials that i could use for WinCE Cabmanager?
I'll have a search myself to see what i can come up with but in the past i've found it quite hard to find things in the forum and most of the time i stumble across certain "gems" by following links in peoples signatures.
Thanks for the info its much appreciated.
Alex

Over on the Kaiser section there was a user named bengalih, who made an automated installer called Sashimi. Although Bengalih has been banned, his work is still floating around. Check out this thread, or do a search for Sashimi. In theory, it should work for the Raphael, since it is still a Win Mobile device. Hope that helps. I might add, that right before Bengalih was banned, he stripped his Sashimi guides from his posts on xda, but they are available here.

This does look like the type of thing i am looking for unfortunately all his posts are just "..........................." but i regged on the other site and got the software so i'm going to go check it out and see how it works. Thanks for that
Alex

Just a quick question but does your mobile connection (Vodafone UK) allow you to use msn (or to that matter any IM program) or is it just http stuff only?
Tmobile wnw doesnt allow IM software over the data connection unless you use wnw+ so i wonder if this is the case with vodfone aswell?

Yeah it does, it also allows me to use skype too. Unfortunalty its the only ROM that does allow me to use msn although i havent tested skype as this is my secondary IM app.
In theory to make a theme (cab) i tried to extract files from a few cabs, files including:
1AA884~1.004
1BBFDC~1.001
1E29E8~1.005
4E6705~1.002
5A7AE8~1.015
5B86C9~1.016
5C27FF~1.017
etc
Then i used "QuickCab 1.0" to add all the extracted files from a couple of cab files, i directed QuickCab 1.0 to install the files to the Windows directory and the process made the new cab file with no problems however i tried to install the cab file that it had created but my TF3D didnt change at all even after a restart.
I'm trying to merge NoTopCurtain.cab-NoCurtains.cab-GlassClock_v1.cab-Pamas Transparant Slider.CAB & NeonIcon.cab
By looking at the xml file it looked like all the 90 files should be installed to the Windows directory.
Any idea of what i am doing wrong?
Thx
Alex

try cabmanager. You will see the actual files. And there is very logical registry structure.
I do not have a tutorial for the program but it's not that hard. You can export files (right mouse click) and reg-entries (under 'file'). Put those all together (import of reg-entries is also possible!) Adding files gives you a simple window with where to put the files on your ppc.
It is not that hard and you will be in control of the proces instead of working with the encrypted files you are doing now...
made dozens of (working) cab's this way myself and I'm no einstein!
Good luck

@merten3000 thanks for that for the next 30 days i can make working cabs, i initially seen your post and checked the program but noticed it was only a 30 day trial so i never bothered then with your last post when u mentioned "encrypted" files that sort of made sense when i originally seen the file names of the files i was extracting where as they are now extracting properly and i created a working cab, thanks very much.
Dont suppose you know of a free program that will do the same job? Money is tight and cant justify buying this app.
Alex

The simplest thing to do, for me, would be to take the stock rom that you like, extract and recook it making only the changes needed to make it UC compliant.
That way you get your rom just as it was, and can run all your cabs. Shouldn't be much work either. (well, it wouldnt be on the Kaiser - not used Raphael kitchens etc, but assume it is relatively easy)