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My sensation is turning off randomly. Its very strange i think. sometimes turns off 2 -3 a day sometimes 5 - 10 times a day and sometimes never. i tried to fabrication reset but it cant help. after the reset it starts again in couple of days. My battery is about % 70 but after the turning off it says battery is % 6. then i restart my phone it turns normal % 70. I m not rooted my device yet. Today i spoke with support service they say try to use in safe mod. i used and my device doesnt turns off. but it could be coincidence. I dont know what to do. Any suggestions ?
hi, i have same problem, i am using official rom. i have found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160054
but there is no confirmed reason or method to solve this problem.
does anybody have an idea?? is it software or hardware issue?
soft-reset? hard-reset? or other rom??
help somebody please
I've also had this problem, I discovered that it was what I suspected, the battery. I took advantage and bought a new evo3d battery.
Already spent a month and never had this issue again.
Mains said:
I've also had this problem, I discovered that it was what I suspected, the battery. I took advantage and bought a new evo3d battery.
Already spent a month and never had this issue again.
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I had the same problem, did a factory reset, a new ROm at the store and nowthey gave my phone a boardswap. i hope that helps....
Same problem here, but not with every Rom and only with the Anker battery... not with the officale htc battery.
i am using official htc battery, official android, now at version 2.3.4, sense version 3.0 and software number 1.45.401.3
i am not sure if flashing other rom helps and if no, i have a problem, bcs with flashing unofficial rom, it breaks warranty.
I try out various ROMs and various kernels including stock rom and kernel. The result was sometimes worked well for a while other times it turn off short time after installation. Turning off some things like wifi, bluetooth and making an underclock the processor helps the phone to hold up better. In my case, having less than 30% of battery life make a call the phone turns off immediately.
This has happened to me on sense miui and cm7 :/
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aneroidsk said:
i am using official htc battery, official android, now at version 2.3.4, sense version 3.0 and software number 1.45.401.3
i am not sure if flashing other rom helps and if no, i have a problem, bcs with flashing unofficial rom, it breaks warranty.
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Root your sensation and flash another rom, it seems like it's a software issue. Also, unlocking your bootloader is what voids the warranty, but there's a way to relock it as well (so if you do get any problems, all you have to do is install the RUU you initially had and relock the bootloader and no one will ever know it happened )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Here's the thread with the guide to unlocking and relocking your bootloader
Hope this helps
I tried to flashing many roms but it didnt help. I think battery cause this problem. I will buy new battery but not htc`s battery.
snah65 said:
I had the same problem, did a factory reset, a new ROm at the store and nowthey gave my phone a boardswap. i hope that helps....
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Factory reset doesnt help. Maybe 2 - 3 days it wont turn off then it starts again...
ababak said:
I tried to flashing many roms but it didnt help. I think battery cause this problem. I will buy new battery but not htc`s battery.
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let us know, if it helps or no
ababak said:
I tried to flashing many roms but it didnt help. I think battery cause this problem. I will buy new battery but not htc`s battery.
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As i said before, I bought the battery from evo3d and the problem was solved besides that the autonomy is great.
Tell us if with a new battery the problem maintained.
i posted something with regards to battery life shortly after ZTR and have flashed to other since, but now it seems no matter what i flash battery just gets swallowed up regardless nd even phone seems to run liiil bit slower.
any suggestions?
different modem?
different driver?
return to stock and root again?
not like i am on phone all the time and its like i dont want to use it cause of the drainage.
ideas???
i would Odin or Heimdall back to stock to clean anything out then
flash again and see the result
if problem persist it can be a faulty battery or hardware
do Odin/Heimdall first tho
i have unlocked my boot loader i have rooted and i have s-off!
the attached images give my complete firmware info:
i have noticed that my phone feels very stable but somewhat less on performance and battery life.
besides there are strange things i have observed (which happened even before rooting)
a) that my battery takes a lot of time to recharge!
b) at times it wont make it up to 100% will be stuck at 99%
c) and if i power off my device and start it up it just drastically reduces by 10% or so
also my phone doesn't heat up it much 34 C is the temp i see in those battery monitoring apps and the battery drop is stable when the phone is not used. And power saver doesn't make much difference!
so i wanted to flash a kernel..
ttherefore i wanted to ask which kernel will work with my present firmware?
and
how to flash a kernel?
any guide about kernels which will help me get through can also work!:good:
PS m a complete noob but trying to learn things so some detailed help regarding the procedure will be appreciated!:angel:
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a) that my battery takes a lot of time to recharge!
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What is a "long time"? Can you be more specific? Mine usually charges for near empty to full in maybe 1.5 to 2 hours.
Rooting and S-off won't effect charge time or battery life. Going to Sense 5 might has some effect on battery life (I personally haven't seen a significant change), but would not have any effect on charge time, per se. But if there is fast battery drain, then the phone will take longer to charge, if you are charging with the phone on (as many of us do).
Are you on the 2.15 firmware? You might be having a signal issue affecting battery drain.
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b) at times it wont make it up to 100% will be stuck at 99%
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How many times did you charge the phone after updating to Sense 5? It takes at least one full discharge/charge cycle after updating the ROM, for the battery meter to be accurate.
Also, charging will automatically shutoff once the battery is charged (this is a mandatory safety feature). Then once the charge has dropped a bit, it will top off again. So I've often seen it drop to 99% while on the charger.
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c) and if i power off my device and start it up it just drastically reduces by 10% or so
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Probably just a metering error, and the new reading is the correct one. I've seen this happen to myself and others when rebooting the phone. Although, it shouldn't be common. Although might be, if you haven't calibrated the meter properly as I mentioned above.
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ttherefore i wanted to ask which kernel will work with my present firmware?
and
how to flash a kernel?
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I beleive Beastmode is your only choice for Sense 5 ROMs at the present time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165880
Just download to your phone, and flash in recovery. Wipe cache and Dalvik after flashing, then reboot.
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What is a "long time"? Can you be more specific?
Rooting and S-off won't effect charge time or battery life. Going to Sense 5 might has some effect on battery life (I haven't seen a significant change), but would not have any effect on charge time. I haven't seen any change in charge time across many ROM flashes. It charges from almost empty to full, in about 1.5 hours, or maybe 2 hours.
How many times did you charge the phone after updating to Sense 5? It takes at least one full discharge/charge cycle after updating the ROM, for the battery meter to be accurate.
Also, charging will intentionally shutoff once the battery is charged (this is a mandatory safety feature). Then once the charge has dropped a bit, it will top off again. So I've often seen it drop to 99% while on the charger.
Probably just a metering error, and the new reading is the correct one. I've seen this happen to myself and others when rebooting the phone. Although, it shouldn't be common. Although might be, if you haven't calibrated the meter properly as I mentioned above.
I beleive Beastmode is your only choice for Sense 5 ROMs at the present time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165880
Just download to your phone, and flash in recovery. Wipe cache and Dalvik after flashing, then reboot.
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Thanks a lot for your reply.:good:
it takes 2 hours to charge.. slightly more...
i have read people saying getting a 2 0r 3% battery drop in 5 hours or so.. for me its around 6% an hour..
i dont play games...i have removed unecessary apps some bloatware.. i dont use greenify module or set cpu etc.. besides my usage is normal.. and "auto sync" and blink feed is off.. its only whats app messenger but even thats not on auto sync
i use 3g for data plans... thats pretty much about my usage.
about the kernel you recommended is it compatible with my present scenario (ie firmware and 4.2.2 etc)
and it wont affect anything like the "sim(carrier unlock), bootloader,radio etc" [m sorry as i said m a newbie] ?
and which version of beastmode exactly u will recommend?
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Thanks a lot for your reply.:good:
it takes 2 hours to charge.. slightly more...
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That sounds pretty normal. I assume the phone is on when you are charging, so if you are seeing higher battery drain on Sense 5, then this will of course affect charge time (1 step backward for every 2 steps forward, so to speak).
So if you are seeing slower charging on Sense 5 than before, it might not be charging time per se, but a battery drain issue.
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i have read people saying getting a 2 0r 3% battery drop in 5 hours or so.. for me its around 6% an hour..
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2-3% per 5 hours seems extremely low. I can get 48 hours on a charge with low usage (phone mostly with the phone idle), on WiFi at home and LTE at work. So about 2% per hour. And I haven't heard reports of battery life much better than that, unless you turn the phone to airplane more or otherwise turn off the data network, which of course will greatly extend battery life but makes the phone much less useful.
And many people have battery life much worse than I've just stated (2% per hour while idle). It depends a lot on how you use your phone, and your location/reception. Drain of 6% per hour with the phone idle is not unheard of, probably even pretty common. When you say 6% per hour, is that with the phone idle and screen off? Is this much different than before you were on Sense 5?
One important question: How did you get on Sense 5? Was it by OTA, or did you flash a custom or stock rooted ROM from Development?
If you flashed a ROM, did you install the 2.15 firmware? This is not to be confused with the OS or ROM, but the 2.15 firmware contains the Sense 5 hboot, radio, as well as several other modules.
If you are not already on the 2.15 firmware, this may help. Of course, a different kernel may help also.
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about the kernel you recommended is it compatible with my present scenario (ie firmware and 4.2.2 etc)
and it wont affect anything like the "sim(carrier unlock), bootloader,radio etc" [m sorry as i said m a newbie] ?
and which version of beastmode exactly u will recommend?
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Of course it works on your present setup. I already said its the kernel to use for Sense 5, and I wouldn't be recommended it to you if it didn't work on your setup.
Some folks are saying to flash Beastmode version 2.0, reboot, than flash 3.5. But I assume that many folks do just fine flashing the latest 3.5 version.
Flashing a kernel will not touch the radio or bootloader. Also, SIM unlock survives just about anything.
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One important question: How did you get on Sense 5? Was it by OTA, or did you flash a custom or stock rooted ROM from Development?
If you flashed a ROM, did you install the 2.15 firmware? This is not to be confused with the OS or ROM, but the 2.15 firmware contains the Sense 5 hboot, radio, as well as several other modules.
If you are not already on the 2.15 firmware, this may help. Of course, a different kernel may help also.
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Well thats the mystery part. I had purchased this phone from ebay from a local vendor. I live in India as HTC one XL is not available all over the world this phone was 'sim/carrier unlocked' to work with the gsm service providers in India( a known fact) Interestingly when i checked it already came with Sense 5 and 4.2.2 and guess what also with the "SOFF" and "Unlocked Bootloader" as well as Super Cid (11111111) the rom however was not rooted it dint have any custom recovery flashed everything else was stock. Every HTC app worked.
so with this background i obviously thought that it may have some ported rom of sense 5 or a custom rom like 'magio' not 'clean rom 7' since it had some htc bloatware (not carrier bloatware) BUT then it dint have any trace of the developer or a signature or anything that could help me to actually understand which rom I am running!
it has hboot version 2.15.0000 and radio i1.30a.32.45.18
now its not a assembled or a fake version i used many apps like Setc cpu ,An tutu,Trickster Mod(every htc sync manager recognizes it) and it gives the detailed version of hardware which is the one that htc one Xl has so its definitely genuine and legit besides it has an 'imei number.
So that's what i m confused about!! I believe its from Asia hong kong or some where probably! Buts its definitely geniune
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Of course it works on your present setup. I already said its the kernel to use for Sense 5, and I wouldn't be recommended it to you if it didn't work on your setup.
Some folks are saying to flash Beastmode version 2.0, reboot, than flash 3.5. But I assume that many folks do just fine flashing the latest 3.5 version.
Flashing a kernel will not touch the radio or bootloader. Also, SIM unlock survives just about anything.
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I read the thread much of it.. I guess the 3.5 version is jus the 3.0 version with Aroma,surprisingly when i flash try to flash it with TWRP 2.6 it says "FAIL"
besides the developer also mentioned to rename two files in the bin folder with" _old" as an extension does it need to be done with the latest kernel version?
and m a bit scared to do so because many have reported that the file for WiFi fix is missing!
About the battery thanks a ton for the explanation M really happy its normal.. and many apps do say that the health is good so YAY!! =)
now the only reason for flashing a kernel will be to get the extra juice out of my Snapdragon S4!!
*excited*
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Well thats the mystery part. I had purchased this phone from ebay from a local vendor. I live in India as HTC one XL is not available all over the world this phone was 'sim/carrier unlocked' to work with the gsm service providers in India( a known fact) Interestingly when i checked it already came with Sense 5 and 4.2.2 and guess what also with the "SOFF" and "Unlocked Bootloader" as well as Super Cid (11111111) the rom however was not rooted it dint have any custom recovery flashed everything else was stock. Every HTC app worked.
so with this background i obviously thought that it may have some ported rom of sense 5 or a custom rom like 'magio' not 'clean rom 7' since it had some htc bloatware (not carrier bloatware) BUT then it dint have any trace of the developer or a signature or anything that could help me to actually understand which rom I am running!
it has hboot version 2.15.0000 and radio i1.30a.32.45.18
now its not a assembled or a fake version i used many apps like Setc cpu ,An tutu,Trickster Mod(every htc sync manager recognizes it) and it gives the detailed version of hardware which is the one that htc one Xl has so its definitely genuine and legit besides it has an 'imei number.
So that's what i m confused about!! I believe its from Asia hong kong or some where probably! Buts its definitely geniune
I read the thread much of it.. I guess the 3.5 version is jus the 3.0 version with Aroma,surprisingly when i flash try to flash it with TWRP 2.6 it says "FAIL"
besides the developer also mentioned to rename two files in the bin folder with" _old" as an extension does it need to be done with the latest kernel version?
and m a bit scared to do so because many have reported that the file for WiFi fix is missing!
About the battery thanks a ton for the explanation M really happy its normal.. and many apps do say that the health is good so YAY!! =)
now the only reason for flashing a kernel will be to get the extra juice out of my Snapdragon S4!!
*excited*
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How long ago did you purchase the phone? It seems to me that the seller has just loaded a stock ROM on it before selling it. You're lucky though, you've ended up with a phone that's already unlocked and already s-off, win win.
I may be wrong but I think the renaming of those files was only applicable to an older version of the kernel. I've flashed 3.0 (3.5 is exactly the same kernel but with an updated/different aroma installer) without renaming them a few times and have no issues. I saw someone mention that after the kernel install failed, that fixing permissions in recovery/advanced and then flashing the kernel worked.
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timmaaa said:
How long ago did you purchase the phone? It seems to me that the seller has just loaded a stock ROM on it before selling it. You're lucky though, you've ended up with a phone that's already unlocked and already s-off, win win.
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its just been 4 or 5 days or so.. M sorry if m desperately over enthusiastic but as i said m a total noob and m jus learning!
Thats great my phone is unlocked and good to go!
btw htc is different god knows why they use lithium polymer batteries and that too do which have a relatively less capacity..
and one brief update m using "ondemand" as my governor i hope thats fine!?
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I may be wrong but I think the renaming of those files was only applicable to an older version of the kernel. I've flashed 3.0 (3.5 is exactly the same kernel but with an updated/different aroma installer) without renaming them a few times and have no issues. I saw someone mention that after the kernel install failed, that fixing permissions in recovery/advanced and then flashing the kernel worked.
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So u suggest i should try and flash the 2.0 and then the 3.5? i will try that!
and friends btw just realized that my phone actually beats up the international version in Antutu Benchmarks its so close to Nexus 4 atleast on the graph (sorry for the off topic discussion its just that m very happy)
and as always god knows what i would have done without this forum and the explanations i get from you people!:angel:
Sonone said:
its just been 4 or 5 days or so.. M sorry if m desperately over enthusiastic but as i said m a total noob and m jus learning!
Thats great my phone is unlocked and good to go!
btw htc is different god knows why they use lithium polymer batteries and that too do which have a relatively less capacity..
and one brief update m using "ondemand" as my governor i hope thats fine!?
So u suggest i should try and flash the 2.0 and then the 3.5? i will try that!
and friends btw just realized that my phone actually beats up the international version in Antutu Benchmarks its so close to Nexus 4 atleast on the graph (sorry for the off topic discussion its just that m very happy)
and as always god knows what i would have done without this forum and the explanations i get from you people!:angel:
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There's nothing wrong with being enthusiastic, and I always encourage people who actually want to learn how to modify their device. The ondemand governor should be fine, I've always used that or intellidemand (on the kernels that have it).
You can try flashing 2.0 before 3.5 or you can just try fixing permissions in recovery before just flashing 3.5, apparently either way works. I've never been a huge fan of benchmarks, but Zarboz asked me to do a couple while we were testing the Beastmode kernel, and apparently the result was half decent. I'll attach a screenshot in a minute.
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timmaaa said:
There's nothing wrong with being enthusiastic, and I always encourage people who actually want to learn how to modify their device. The ondemand governor should be fine, I've always used that or intellidemand (on the kernels that have it).
You can try flashing 2.0 before 3.5 or you can just try fixing permissions in recovery before just flashing 3.5, apparently either way works. I've never been a huge fan of benchmarks, but Zarboz asked me to do a couple while we were testing the Beastmode kernel, and apparently the result was half decent. I'll attach a screenshot in a minute.
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was the benchmarking app quadrant?
well it does seem good though like personally m a bit skeptical about benchmarks as they give a different result every time BUT what matters to me is the feedback the kernel has which is really great. And since it gives me a little more control of the functioning of my device m very much inclined to try it out!!
Sonone said:
so with this background i obviously thought that it may have some ported rom of sense 5 or a custom rom like 'magio' not 'clean rom 7' since it had some htc bloatware (not carrier bloatware) BUT then it dint have any trace of the developer or a signature or anything that could help me to actually understand which rom I am running!
it has hboot version 2.15.0000 and radio i1.30a.32.45.18
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It has the version number (5.05.707.1) and baseband for the Singapore/Singtel Sense 5 OTA. So I'm going to guess that the seller actually RUU'ed to stock and than OTA'ed to the latest official OS, which is actually pretty impressive (went a bit beyond the call of duty, as a seller).
If this is true, all the 2.15 firmware modules should be installed, and you shouldn't need to mess with those.
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It has the version number (5.05.707.1) and baseband for the Singapore/Singtel Sense 5 OTA. So I'm going to guess that the seller actually RUU'ed to stock and than OTA'ed to the latest official OS, which is actually pretty impressive (went a bit beyond the call of duty, as a seller).
If this is true, all the 2.15 firmware modules should be installed, and you shouldn't need to mess with those.
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and finally mystery solved :good::laugh: Genius :good:
but I dint get you? So u mean to say that everything is normal and i can go ahead withe flashing?
and its all good i mean the phone,all legit right?
one thing that i have often thought is that are the custom roms build to work specifically for a particular region or is it universal??
Sonone said:
and finally mystery solved :good::laugh: Genius :good:
but I dint get you? So u mean to say that everything is normal and i can go ahead withe flashing?
and its all good i mean the phone,all legit right?
one thing that i have often thought is that are the custom roms build to work specifically for a particular region or is it universal??
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Well, its not a sure thing (my assumption on how the phone go to Sense 5). But its the likely scenario.
I'd say all is legit. I wouldn't expect there to be any signal issues due to mismatched firmware modules, as it appears that hboot, radio, and other modules are updated to 2.15 versions meant for the Sense 5 stock ROM.
Although, a few folks have reported poor reception on the Sense 5 radio (baseband), and getting better reception by flashing an older radio. But I think most people are going to see better performance with the newest (Sense 5) radio. Unless you have a reason to believe that reception is an issue, I'd leave it alone.
Any ROM meant for the EVITA will work on your phone (they are not region dependent). The one hitch, if the APN for your carrier is not included on the custom ROM, you will have to enter the APN info manually. But this is a minor issue. And if you already have the phone running on the stock Sense 5 ROM, it looks like you've already figured this out (or it was done for you).
There is also presently an exception, in that some AOSP ROMs do not play well with hboot 2.15. But each AOSP ROM will likely be compatible as the individual developers update their ROMs.
A thread about overclocking that lead to so many things! =)
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Well, its not a sure thing (my assumption on how the phone go to Sense 5). But its the likely scenario.
I'd say all is legit. I wouldn't expect there to be any signal issues due to mismatched firmware modules, as it appears that hboot, radio, and other modules are updated to 2.15 versions meant for the Sense 5 stock ROM.
Although, a few folks have reported poor reception on the Sense 5 radio (baseband), and getting better reception by flashing an older radio. But I think most people are going to see better performance with the newest (Sense 5) radio. Unless you have a reason to believe that reception is an issue, I'd leave it alone.
Any ROM meant for the EVITA will work on your phone (they are not region dependent). The one hitch, if the APN for your carrier is not included on the custom ROM, you will have to enter the APN info manually. But this is a minor issue. And if you already have the phone running on the stock Sense 5 ROM, it looks like you've already figured this out (or it was done for you).
There is also presently an exception, in that some AOSP ROMs do not play well with hboot 2.15. But each AOSP ROM will likely be compatible as the individual developers update their ROMs.
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M happy its all good!
Ya Timmaaa had also mentioned that PAC man in particular is not compatible with 2.15... Access Points ya i can do that..
Reception has been good.... it was the same i had on my earlier cell!
i have to thanks the seller though.. Nice job done..
btw does the clean rom or magio for that matter have any at&t or telstra stuff!?
for clean rom its mentioned i guess anyways i can remove that,coz its actually of no use?
MagioRom has no carrier bloatware at all, it's been removed. I haven't run the new Cleanrom but I think Scott usually removes the bloatware too.
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MagioRom has no carrier bloatware at all, it's been removed. I haven't run the new Cleanrom but I think Scott usually removes the bloatware too.
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so no extra bars for network and dat at & t start up screen?
and completely debranded?
thanks for the feedback =)
Sonone said:
so no extra bars for network and dat at & t start up screen?
and completely debranded?
thanks for the feedback =)
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I'm honestly not sure because I haven't flashed Cleanrom, he should have a list of features in his thread though.
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i installed Beastmode version 3.5 my phone is stuck on the start up screen with some something written in red "that its meant for development etc.... what to do?
Download Beastmode 2.0, flash that and then 3.5 afterwards and see if that works.
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so no extra bars for network and dat at & t start up screen?
and completely debranded?
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CleanROM 7 is actually based on the German T-Mobile stock ROM, but as scrocler says in the top post of the CleanROM thread "infused with AT&T settings!" Probably due to the fact that some 60% of One X/XL users here are on AT&T (based on a survey by Turge), and some things don't always play quite well on AT&T's network without AT&T build.prop, signal icons etc. Although, the stock German ROM is working fantastic for me on AT&T.
I haven't flashed the latest CleanROM either, so I'm not actually sure what AT&T aspects are present or not. You can read through the CleanROM thread, or post the question there. Or just flash it, and see for yourself.
I think scrosler is working on an AROMA version of CleanROM 7, in which case you may be able to customize what AT&T features are included or not.
when trying to install beast mode kernel i was stuck in bootloop so i went into twrp and by mistake wiped everything (i was such a fool my sddata along with my nandroid back up) got erased so i had no os..
when i rebooted it was again in bootloop
so i first flashed twrp
then i mounted usb storage and copied cyanogen mod {cm-10.0.0-evita} and flashed it!
{the version i downloaded was the only tsbale version}
it booted up and now my touch screen nor the capacitive buttons work please tell me what to do??
rilly messed up!
Hello. I have the GS5. For over three months it overheats like hell. Why because I did the firmware update and it all started with this.
TL;DR: I need an app or program that shows detailed percentage of usage and temperatures of apps. It would be great if you can find a real-time monitoring one like on PCs. My phone is rooted so feel free to recommend any app that suit my needs.
It overheats so much that I can barely able to hold the phone because it slips through so easily from my hand (nope my hands are not dirty, I wash them with lots of soaps ).
I bought a case and it is still somewhat hard to hold the phone with one hand but the case surely helped. Can use it with two hands but was able to use with one hand without any problems so why should I accept this right?
The cpu is around 40 Celsius at idle to very low usage. The battery is around 28 Celsius at idle. The room temps is 26 Celsius.
After using my phone for about fifteen mins, the battery is going up to 36-38 Celsius. The cpu is around 50 Celsius. Not playing games at all, just surfing on the web and installing one to two apps from Android Market. Do you think it is normal or excessive? I fell the heat in my hands. It was not been like this before the firmware update.
Although I did all wipes and flash the whole rom from scratch (even ticked Nand Erase All), my problem still persists so I am out of ideas. Maybe I can buy a new battery and a charger but I would like to make sure that the problem is not causing by software. Thank you.
karasahin said:
Hello. I have the GS5. For over three months it overheats like hell. Why because I did the firmware update and it all started with this.
TL;DR: I need an app or program that shows detailed percentage of usage and temperatures of apps. It would be great if you can find a real-time monitoring one like on PCs. My phone is rooted so feel free to recommend any app that suit my needs.
It overheats so much that I can barely able to hold the phone because it slips through so easily from my hand (nope my hands are not dirty, I wash them with lots of soaps ).
I bought a case and it is still somewhat hard to hold the phone with one hand but the case surely helped. Can use it with two hands but was able to use with one hand without any problems so why should I accept this right?
The cpu is around 40 Celsius at idle to very low usage. The battery is around 28 Celsius at idle. The room temps is 26 Celsius.
After using my phone for about fifteen mins, the battery is going up to 36-38 Celsius. The cpu is around 50 Celsius. Not playing games at all, just surfing on the web and installing one to two apps from Android Market. Do you think it is normal or excessive? I fell the heat in my hands. It was not been like this before the firmware update.
Although I did all wipes and flash the whole rom from scratch (even ticked Nand Erase All), my problem still persists so I am out of ideas. Maybe I can buy a new battery and a charger but I would like to make sure that the problem is not causing by software. Thank you.
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Please provide further information in regard to your device e.g. ROM, kernel etc.
noc.jfcbs said:
Please provide further information in regard to your device e.g. ROM, kernel etc.
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Sure. I haven't touched to kernel yet but I have a custom rom installed. I just installed it yesterday. Was using stock rom of Lollipop 5.0 of my country before. I also tried the UK rom (BTU) but all the same.
karasahin said:
Sure. I haven't touched to kernel yet but I have a custom rom installed. I just installed it yesterday. Was using stock rom of Lollipop 5.0 of my country before. I also tried the UK rom (BTU) but all the same.
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Despite only little information available, I assume the issue is kernel related. Had you e.g. overclocked and over-voltaged? Most likely not as you were on stock.
Your custom ROM certainly came with its own, new kernel. I suggest to monitor the overheating first as you just recently flashed the custom ROM. However, you can also play with the kernel settings (my current one has its own control-apk, or by using e.g. an apk called "Kernel Adiutor") to see what's best serves your requirements. If you're not happy with the custom ROM's kernel, you can flash a custom kernel but check compatibility first. And remember, when you're on a custom kernel every time you flash the custom ROM you'll have to re-flash the kernel.
Here's a real good guide regarding CPU governors, I/O schedulers and more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/ref-to-date-guide-cpu-governors-o-t3048957
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Despite only little information available, I assume the issue is kernel related. Had you e.g. overclocked and over-voltaged? Most likely not as you were on stock.
Your custom ROM certainly came with its own, new kernel. I suggest to monitor the overheating first as you just recently flashed the custom ROM. However, you can also play with the kernel settings (my current one has its own control-apk, or by using e.g. an apk called "Kernel Adiutor") to see what's best serves your requirements. If you're not happy with the custom ROM's kernel, you can flash a custom kernel but check compatibility first. And remember, when you're on a custom kernel every time you flash the custom ROM you'll have to re-flash the kernel.
Here's a real good guide regarding CPU governors, I/O schedulers and more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/ref-to-date-guide-cpu-governors-o-t3048957
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So I think I should update kernel on this custom rom with a new one? Because the OP says that flash hispasian kernel after flashing his rom. I haven't do that yet, nor I have experience about it. I believe I have a custom rom with stock kernel right now. I don't think it is related to custom rom. It overheats like I was on stock rom. Could be kernel. Can kernel be updated through the firmware update? It may explain why it starts to overheating after that. No, I haven't overclocked and over-voltaged the cpu. Maybe it came overclocked or over-voltaged with this custom rom but it isn't described.
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So I think I should update kernel on this custom rom with a new one? Because the OP says that flash hispasian kernel after flashing his rom. I haven't do that yet, nor I have experience about it. I believe I have a custom rom with stock kernel right now. I don't think it is related to custom rom. It overheats like I was on stock rom. Could be kernel. Can kernel be updated through the firmware update? It may explain why it starts to overheating after that. No, I haven't overclocked and over-voltaged the cpu. Maybe it came overclocked or over-voltaged with this custom rom but it isn't described.
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I suggest to surf your custom ROM's thread and to figure out, which kernels can go with this ROM and which are the experiences of other users with the respective kernel.
Firmware updates (I assume you mean now updates of your ROM) won't solve your problem because with the update comes its own kernel i.e. you need to flash afterwards the kernel you want again.
I always flash my custom kernel through recovery. As recovery, I personally recommend TWRP in its latest version (as you see in my signature block, I'm using TWRP v3.0.2). An in my opinion very good tool, to install (actually flash through your current recovery) TWRP is via an App (apk) called "Flashify".
After you've flash TWRP and rebooted, google how to flash a kernel or search XDA for my postings. I think I already describe somewhere how to do so.
noc.jfcbs said:
I suggest to surf your custom ROM's thread and to figure out, which kernels can go with this ROM and which are the experiences of other users with the respective kernel.
Firmware updates (I assume you mean now updates of your ROM) won't solve your problem because with the update comes its own kernel i.e. you need to flash afterwards the kernel you want again.
I always flash my custom kernel through recovery. As recovery, I personally recommend TWRP in its latest version (as you see in my signature block, I'm using TWRP v3.0.2). An in my opinion very good tool, to install (actually flash through your current recovery) TWRP is via an App (apk) called "Flashify".
After you've flash TWRP and rebooted, google how to flash a kernel or search XDA for my postings. I think I already describe somewhere how to do so.
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I mentioned firmware updates because I was wondering if stock (Samsung) rom firmware update did break something in stock kernel. Is it possible? I'm %99 positive this happened after the latest firmware update. I mainly flashed this custom rom to get rid of overheating problem but the problem persists.
I just flashed HispAsian kernel, which the creator of this custom ROM recommended, through TWRP and works fine for now. But nothing's changed about overheating.
karasahin said:
I mentioned firmware updates because I was wondering if stock (Samsung) rom firmware update did break something in stock kernel. Is it possible? I'm %99 positive this happened after the latest firmware update. I mainly flashed this custom rom to get rid of overheating problem but the problem persists.
I just flashed HispAsian kernel, which the creator of this custom ROM recommended, through TWRP and works fine for now. But nothing's changed about overheating.
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Look into the kernel settings as mentioned in post #4 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67135599&postcount=4).
Before you change anything I suggest to educate yourself via the thread mentioned in that post, too.
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Look into the kernel settings as mentioned in post #4 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67135599&postcount=4).
Before you change anything I suggest to educate yourself via the thread mentioned in that post, too.
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I actually don't care about custom roms. As long as I can find a solution for stock roms I would return to them. Could you please give me your solution for stock roms?
karasahin said:
I actually don't care about custom roms. As long as I can find a solution for stock roms I would return to them. Could you please give me your solution for stock roms?
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It's always your decision and desire. I think everything said also applies to stock ROM. Check your kernel settings and manipulate to your needs. Some tools were mentioned before.
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It's always your decision and desire. I think everything said also applies to stock ROM. Check your kernel settings and manipulate to your needs. Some tools were mentioned before.
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It is too complicated for me. If you could just point how to downlock the CPU's clock speed then I can try and see if it works to prevent overheating.
Also let's say I decide to return to stock rom. Will current kernel replace with stock one?
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It is too complicated for me. If you could just point how to downlock the CPU's clock speed then I can try and see if it works to prevent overheating.
Also let's say I decide to return to stock rom. Will current kernel replace with stock one?
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I'm not familiar with your phone (wasn't it a Samsung Galaxy S5) or your stock ROM (Lollipop?). I suggest that you address your questions in the GSG5 forum, where the gurus for your phone rest. Sorry for that.
Anyhow, I added two screenshots of the apk "Kernel Adiutor" (first two), and two of AGNi control, which came with my kernel. As you see both of them support manipulation of kernel settings.
IRT your last question: I'm convinced flashing stock ROM is also replacing current kernel. ...but as said: GSG5 forum.
I made a post in Reddit, but I thought it might be good to check here as well.
Basically, I'm on Fulmics 6.5. I can get about 2 hours of SOT on a good day, but other days, I'm stuck with 1-1.5 SOT. I really don't understand, because I got this phone a month ago, and I'm using new batteries (found here). I hear some people say that Fulmics improved their SOT by 1.5 hours but... if that were true for me, that means I get 0 SOT without Fulmics?
As I said in my post, I will probably reflash Fulmics next week to see if that will fix anything, but does anyone have explanations? In the few GSam screen shots I grabbed, you can see that Android System grabs at least 25% of my battery. Also, my overnight drain is really bad, considering Marshmallow ROMs are supposed to have Doze...
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I made a post in Reddit, but I thought it might be good to check here as well.
Basically, I'm on Fulmics 6.5. I can get about 2 hours of SOT on a good day, but other days, I'm stuck with 1-1.5 SOT. I really don't understand, because I got this phone a month ago, and I'm using new batteries (found here). I hear some people say that Fulmics improved their SOT by 1.5 hours but... if that were true for me, that means I get 0 SOT without Fulmics?
As I said in my post, I will probably reflash Fulmics next week to see if that will fix anything, but does anyone have explanations? In the few GSam screen shots I grabbed, you can see that Android System grabs at least 25% of my battery. Also, my overnight drain is really bad, considering Marshmallow ROMs are supposed to have Doze...
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only way to test for sure is use a stock rom or flash back to stock.
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hyelton said:
only way to test for sure is use a stock rom or flash back to stock.
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Isn't Fulmics a stock ROM? Are there stock Marshmallow ROMs available for the D850?
I went from Marshmallow to KitKat using your LG UP method. Then I used TowelRoot, TWRP Manager, and then finally flashed Fulmics 6.5. Did I mess up a step, and that's why my battery drain is so bad?
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Isn't Fulmics a stock ROM? Are there stock Marshmallow ROMs available for the D850?
I went from Marshmallow to KitKat using your LG UP method. Then I used TowelRoot, TWRP Manager, and then finally flashed Fulmics 6.5. Did I mess up a step, and that's why my battery drain is so bad?
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You must ota update from KitKat to get stock MM. When I say stock rom I mean pure stock. Filmics is not a stock rom as there's changes etc.
I would just stat to test out stock firmware first. As if it fixes the battery drain issue then it's the rom your running or application that's installed causing it. When it comes to battery drain unless it's a hardware issue or known issue it's always on the user side of things to find out.
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hyelton said:
You must ota update from KitKat to get stock MM. When I say stock rom I mean pure stock. Filmics is not a stock rom as there's changes etc.
I would just stat to test out stock firmware first. As if it fixes the battery drain issue then it's the rom your running or application that's installed causing it. When it comes to battery drain unless it's a hardware issue or known issue it's always on the user side of things to find out.
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I see, but I don't think I can OTA to MM because I don't have an AT&T SIM card: I am using a Cricket SIM on my D850. So the only thing I can do is reflash Fulmic, or flash something else. But that's assuming it's a software issue.
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I see, but I don't think I can OTA to MM because I don't have an AT&T SIM card: I am using a Cricket SIM on my D850. So the only thing I can do is reflash Fulmic, or flash something else. But that's assuming it's a software issue.
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Yeah you wouldn't be able to ota update. Your best bet is to wipe and reflash your rom. Whenever you flashed your rom you wiped correct?
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hyelton said:
Yeah you wouldn't be able to ota update. Your best bet is to wipe and reflash your rom. Whenever you flashed your rom you wiped correct?
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Yeah, here were my specific steps (that I can remember):
-LG UP to KitKat
-TowelRoot
-TWRP Manager to install TWRP
-Wipe ALL (checked very single box in Advanced Wipe)
-Flashed Fulmics
-Reboot
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Yeah, here were my specific steps (that I can remember):
-LG UP to KitKat
-TowelRoot
-TWRP Manager to install TWRP
-Wipe ALL (checked very single box in Advanced Wipe)
-Flashed Fulmics
-Reboot
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Yeah next step is to reflash. But also rouge apps can cause battery drain as well. Along with having location services turned on.
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hyelton said:
Yeah next step is to reflash. But also rouge apps can cause battery drain as well. Along with having location services turned on.
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So it shouldn't be a battery problem? I swapped out a different battery, and drain seems bad too. Unless I have two bad batteries....?
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Yeah next step is to reflash. But also rouge apps can cause battery drain as well. Along with having location services turned on.
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So I did a reflash.... and the results aren't looking much better.
I would suggest seeing if you can get an OEM battery to try out. If you know anyone who has a g3 as a backup phone or a spare battery, give it a try. It could be the batteries you bought.
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I would suggest seeing if you can get an OEM battery to try out. If you know anyone who has a g3 as a backup phone or a spare battery, give it a try. It could be the batteries you bought.
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I'm going to try this one for a week, and then I'll switch to the OEM one I bought from LG. I doubt there will be a difference though, unless I got TWO faulty batteries?