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WM6 ignoring user provided dns servers?

I used OPENDNS on WM5 for quite a while...when I moved to WM6 I set it up the same way and assumed it worked...it appears I was incorrect. Here are the specifics:
I'm on tmobile with an unlimited internet plan..I do not need a proxy.
I have specified the opendns servers 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 in the 'advanced config" section of the T-mobile GPRS connection which is the only connection other than MMS listed.
Going to http://www.opendns.com/welcome should NOT take me to the http://www.opendns.com/welcome/oops page and tell me I'm not using their service however it does. I went back to wm5 with identical setup (I'm even using the same tmobile config cab file to setup the connection) and verified it does work. I also did the usual soft reset to make sure all settings took etc....
Any ideas?

yes, i have the same problem, with Email push. after 24 hours my ip adress over dyndns is changing, the push service dont know about the ip change..
with other WM5 devices it works well, so i think wm5 release after a specific time the internal DNS list and reload it from a puplic DNS Server again...

joy.d said:
yes, i have the same problem, with Email push. after 24 hours my ip adress over dyndns is changing, the push service dont know about the ip change..
with other WM5 devices it works well, so i think wm5 release after a specific time the internal DNS list and reload it from a puplic DNS Server again...
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Just to clarify...opendns is a public dns server service that provides custom features to folks who use it and in general has much faster dns servers than most isp's or phone providers. It is NOT a dynamic DNS service such as dyndns which gives you a pseudo static name.

OpenDNS works fine for me on my phone over Cingular / AT&T on WM6. I've used it on almost every WM6 rom I've flashed (its built into the WAP Media settings cab I use). I can go to www.opendns.com/welcome via PIE or Opera and I get back the Welcome to OpenDNS page (not the Oops page).
Wonder if this is a T-Mobile issue?

mfrazzz said:
OpenDNS works fine for me on my phone over Cingular / AT&T on WM6. I've used it on almost every WM6 rom I've flashed (its built into the WAP Media settings cab I use). I can go to www.opendns.com/welcome via PIE or Opera and I get back the Welcome to OpenDNS page (not the Oops page).
Wonder if this is a T-Mobile issue?
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That appears to be the case....in wm5 I was using bluetooth dun and could specify the opendns servers in the config...but with pand it gets them from the phone and the phone ignores them.

I orig. thought it was just me. I tried as well with no success. It probably is a T Mo thing. It will not even let me chage to internet2...keeps me a t wap.
I was happy with the responciveness from the MDA.
Maybe it's tmo way of saying speed will no longer be an issue
Just hoping
When I had the MDA, i had WM6 Rom flashed and the DNS worked?

OpenDNS blocking gmail while using wifi tether for root users?

What the hell? Never even heard of opendns...wtf is it?
How do I fix it?

KidJethro said:
What the hell? Never even heard of opendns...wtf is it?
How do I fix it?
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Are you using Wifi or 3G/Edge? Looks like the problem is with the admin that setup your Wifi.

Well sounds like you are using their DNS servers and someone blocked gmail.
go to opendns.com while tethering to change your settings if you can. You should see a "dashboard" link at the top right of the page.

OpenDNS is an alternative DNS service (normally DNS is provided by the ISP). Wifi-Tether-For-Root by default has OpenDNS hardcoded in as the default DNS (instead of T-Mo's DNS servers). Since all traffic on T-Mo 3G is routed through their central server, regardless of where you are physically, your ip on the internet will appear as coming from a T-Mo data center in Missouri or Kansas or something. Perhaps someone has maliciously set up an OpenDNS account with this ip and locked out gmail.
Edit: I am having no problems getting to gmail using WT4R. My tmo ip was different from the usual though. Perhaps they are load-balancing their US network. Last time I checked, my tmo ip came out in Kansas. This time however, it came out of Rhode Island. Strange, considering I am physically in California.
Could you lookup your internet-side ip address while tethering and see which tmo datacenter you appear to be coming from when your gmail access is restricted?

This is the first time I've ever used wifi tether. Was kinda wierd to see gmail was blocked. Working on setting up an opendns acct now.

Ok....I'm totally lost now. I've got an opendns acct setup. I'm lookin at the dashboard thing, and have no idea what to change to fix this issue?

You are going to want to go here https://www.opendns.com/dashboard/settings/
It should show your current IP in the drop down.
Turn off the filtering and make sure nothing down below is added.

jashsu said:
OpenDNS is an alternative DNS service (normally DNS is provided by the ISP). Wifi-Tether-For-Root by default has OpenDNS hardcoded in as the default DNS (instead of T-Mo's DNS servers). Since all traffic on T-Mo 3G is routed through their central server, regardless of where you are physically, your ip on the internet will appear as coming from a T-Mo data center in Missouri or Kansas or something. Perhaps someone has maliciously set up an OpenDNS account with this ip and locked out gmail.
Edit: I am having no problems getting to gmail using WT4R. My tmo ip was different from the usual though. Perhaps they are load-balancing their US network. Last time I checked, my tmo ip came out in Kansas. This time however, it came out of Rhode Island. Strange, considering I am physically in California.
Could you lookup your internet-side ip address while tethering and see which tmo datacenter you appear to be coming from when your gmail access is restricted?
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Easy enough to figure out my ip addy....but no idea how to do the rest.
Weird thing though...I signed up fro an opendns acct, browsed around a bit in the dashboard and now gmail works? ~edit~ nvermind, spoke too soon...gmail is blocked again.
For some reason I have a problem wrapping my brain around this kinda stuff.

your ip could have changed

neoobs said:
You are going to want to go here https://www.opendns.com/dashboard/settings/
It should show your current IP in the drop down.
Turn off the filtering and make sure nothing down below is added.
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I see my IP under the network tab. Under the settings tab it says "to control your settings, you need to add a network to your account." If I click "add a network" it takes me back to the network tab where my ip is displayed. If I click add network, it says network already exists?
Bleh....

Like i said, T-Mo is likely load balancing across their many gateways. My guess is whoever locked gmail out only did it to one of the gateways. Your best bet is to change the DNS servers away from opendns.

KidJethro said:
I see my IP under the network tab. Under the settings tab it says "to control your settings, you need to add a network to your account." If I click "add a network" it takes me back to the network tab where my ip is displayed. If I click add network, it says network already exists?
Bleh....
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The reason is because only one openvpn account can control a network. Whoever has messed up that tmo gateway has full control of it until that person or openvpn changes the situation.

jashsu said:
Like i said, T-Mo is likely load balancing across their many gateways. My guess is whoever locked gmail out only did it to one of the gateways. Your best bet is to change the DNS servers away from opendns.
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Ok, need this in baby talk, barney style. I have no idea how to change dns servers?

KidJethro said:
Easy enough to figure out my ip addy....but no idea how to do the rest.
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http://www.ip2location.com/

jashsu said:
http://www.ip2location.com/
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IP Address : 208.54.94.59 Location :
UNITED STATES, WEST VIRGINIA, CHARLESTON Latitude / Longitude : 38.3515 LATITUDE, -81.632 LONGITUDE Connecting through : T-MOBILE USA Time Zone : UTC -05:00
IDD Code : 1 Area Code : 304 Weather Station : USWV0138 - CHARLESTON

KidJethro said:
Ok, need this in baby talk, barney style. I have no idea how to change dns servers?
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It might be enough to edit /data/data/android.tether/conf/dnsmasq.conf with a text editor and substitute out the DNS values in there with your own DNS. I'll try it out later.

jashsu said:
It might be enough to edit /data/data/android.tether/conf/dnsmasq.conf with a text editor and substitute out the DNS values in there with your own DNS. I'll try it out later.
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"wifi tether" should update the dnsmasq.conf-file automatically (will take the dns from your 2G/3G-connection) - this was introduced in version 0.95.
Type ... "getprop net.dns1" into terminal ... that should exactly be the nameserver in dnsmasq.conf (after you have started tethering).

Bleh....I need a break from phone tweaking for a bit. Buuurn ouuuut

Works for me
I just got home, tethered just to see if it would affect me too. Not problems at all.

harry_m said:
"wifi tether" should update the dnsmasq.conf-file automatically (will take the dns from your 2G/3G-connection) - this was introduced in version 0.95.
Type ... "getprop net.dns1" into terminal ... that should exactly be the nameserver in dnsmasq.conf (after you have started tethering).
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harry_m is right. When I tethered to my G1 via WT4R (ver 0.9.6) and visited opendns.com, it showed the "Start using OpenDNS" button, indicating my currently used DNS was not OpenDNS. I verified that WT4R had fetched the G1's internal DNS setting by checking the dnsmasq.conf:
Code:
$ su
# cat /data/data/android.tether/conf/dnsmasq.conf
no-resolv
no-poll
server=10.177.0.34
server=10.176.80.242
I suggest you reinstall WT4R and choose no when it gives you the option to import old settings. This way, it will build your configuration files from scratch (and not use OpenDNS).

How do we set Opendns on 3G/EDGE/WCDMA?

Ok T-Mobile as well as other isps have been known to log dns servers to see
what users access and is a big privacy concern, I would like to use OpenDns
but I have not been able to do so, any help would be appreciated, here is
what I have tried:
added this to init.rc:
setprop ro.kernel.android.ndns 2
setprop net.rmnet0.dns1 208.67.222.222
setprop net.rmnet0.dns2 208.67.220.220
setprop net.dns1.108 208.67.222.222 # random dns setting set???
setprop net.dns2.108 208.67.220.220 # wtf
setprop net.dns1 208.67.222.222
setprop net.dns2 208.67.220.220
and also ran in terminal, restarted interface and still wont use opendns,
verified at welcome.opendns.com that opendns isnt setup properly...
T-Mobile/Google have obviously made it hard to change dns settings for a reason and I would like to control this myself, as well as others should for privacy/security purposes, so lets figure this out
defcon
P.S. I know you can change DNS on wifi, through ipsettings with anycut, the mobile network dns settings seem to be set by dhcp and are static and we cant seem to change them within a gui, so we gotta figure out how to hack the dns settings on boot or when the interface connects to T-Mobile or your cell network...

Maybe you might want to reconsider:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508149
If you're too lazy to read the entire thread, basically there is evidence someone has registered some t-mo gateway ips with their opendns account and is poisoning some of the resolves. Atleast one gateway seems to be blocking resolves of gmail.
Anyway, T-Mo can track your traffic without DNS, I assure you. Unless you are running some kind of end-to-end encryption like tor or a vpn tunnel, they can (and probably do) perform deep packet inspection.

the dns settings are automatically reset when your network status changes and this seems to happen extremely often, so there's basically no point in using setprop

yea obviously, so we need to find an alternative solution.

this one works

You're fooling yourself if you think using an alternate DNS server is buying you any increase in privacy. Everything you are viewing over GSM is going through a proxy server. If you really don't want T-Mobile to know where you're going, your choices are basically:
1. Only use Wifi for browsing
2. Set up some kind of encrypted tunnel (via VPN, SSH tunnel, etc.) and point your web browser to it.
3. Only visit HTTPS sites (in which case T-Mobile will know the IP address you're going to but not necessarily the website domain).

jashsu said:
they can (and probably do) perform deep packet inspection.
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I can confirm they DO use deep packet inspection.

WiFi DNS Does not Update

I've posted this over at the Rhodium Thread located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731292
but haven't gotten a single response yet. Since this is a concern for more than one device I feel like I should post it here. Mods feel free to move this to the correct location if need be.
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So it seems to me that this is a problem on ALL Android devices that I have tested with. Here's the situation
I have a router in my house in which I have DHCP turned off so my device will grab an IP (Not Static) and DNS from the ISP. I need to find a way to be able to just change the DNS Settings to 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 on android without having to manually put in an IP since the IP will automatically get changed every few day's.
Android doesn't seem to let me do that. Does anyone know how? Going into the Advance Menu in the Wifi settings and changing the dns does not actually change anything... I noticed this on the following android devices as well: Moto Cliq, MyTouch 3g, old Kaiser running android on NAND, and my Rhodium Devices running android.
Any reason as to why Android isn't updating my DNS Settings? Any help would be appreciated.

starmena said:
I have a router in my house in which I have DHCP turned off so my device will grab an IP (Not Static) and DNS from the ISP. I need to find a way to be able to just change the DNS Settings to 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 on android without having to manually put in an IP since the IP will automatically get changed every few day's.
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Ok so DHCP is assigning your network config, but you want to use different DNS servers than the DHCP allocated ones?
starmena said:
Android doesn't seem to let me do that. Does anyone know how? Going into the Advance Menu in the Wifi settings and changing the dns does not actually change anything... I noticed this on the following android devices as well: Moto Cliq, MyTouch 3g, old Kaiser running android on NAND, and my Rhodium Devices running android.
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On my HTC Hero running an Android 2.1 ROM, unless "Static IP" is selected, I dont even get the option to change the DNS servers (option is greyed-out).
One way to manually change DNS is via shell if you have root access on your phone using ADB shell (or ssh, telnet etc if your ROM supports them), see this thread [Q] Help! Changing DNS settings .
Any network config tools on the app store?
-jc

starmena said:
I've posted this over at the Rhodium Thread located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731292
but haven't gotten a single response yet. Since this is a concern for more than one device I feel like I should post it here. Mods feel free to move this to the correct location if need be.
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So it seems to me that this is a problem on ALL Android devices that I have tested with. Here's the situation
I have a router in my house in which I have DHCP turned off so my device will grab an IP (Not Static) and DNS from the ISP. I need to find a way to be able to just change the DNS Settings to 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 on android without having to manually put in an IP since the IP will automatically get changed every few day's.
Android doesn't seem to let me do that. Does anyone know how? Going into the Advance Menu in the Wifi settings and changing the dns does not actually change anything... I noticed this on the following android devices as well: Moto Cliq, MyTouch 3g, old Kaiser running android on NAND, and my Rhodium Devices running android.
Any reason as to why Android isn't updating my DNS Settings? Any help would be appreciated.
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I'm confused by your question. If you have DHCP turned off your device's are not going to grab an IP address from your router. Why don't you turn on DHCP and let your router assign IP addresses. As doing so your devices will also use the DNS setting from the router which will be your ISP's DNS ip address. Unless you change your DNS settings in your router to one of the many public DNS servers available. My recommendation is turn DHCP to "ON" on your router. Maybe start your DHCP IP assignment at 192.168.1.100 and go up to 150. That way you can use the range from .2 to .99 for static IP's. This is how I configured my router but I'm also using DD-WRT firmware on my router which highly customizes the router. Alternately you can change your routers DNS ip setting to Open DNS server so there would be no need for you to change it on the phone if you are using WIFI. Just let your router do all that work for you. Hope this helps. Viva Santiago Rep Dom y NYC.

Question S22 Ultra using wrong DNS server?

I just upgraded from an S9+ to the S22 Ultra, and I'm having some DNS problems. I run my own local DNS, and my DHCP server hands out that address as DNS 1 and OpenDNS as DNS 2. I've checked the settings on my phone, and it is getting those addresses in that order from DHCP. But whenever my phone goes to resolve an address it uses OpenDNS, not my primary server and I have no idea why.
I know there was a recent issue with Android no longer resolving ".local" domains, but I don't think that relates to this issue since I'm using ".workgroup".
I have no idea how to start troubleshooting this and I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks!

Maybe this from
Local DNS resolution suddenly stopped working... - Google Pixel Community
Ran into the same problem however I have resolved the issue temporarily by using IP address of server instead of base url i-e https://example.dev.local to the IP address such as 10.10.10.152

raul6 said:
Maybe this from
Local DNS resolution suddenly stopped working... - Google Pixel Community
Ran into the same problem however I have resolved the issue temporarily by using IP address of server instead of base url i-e https://example.dev.local to the IP address such as 10.10.10.152
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That does seem like a similar issue, with no apparent resolution unfortunately. I should be able to access local resources via IP, but then that kind of ruins the purpose of using DNS. Thanks for the reply anyway.

davel23 said:
I just upgraded from an S9+ to the S22 Ultra, and I'm having some DNS problems. I run my own local DNS, and my DHCP server hands out that address as DNS 1 and OpenDNS as DNS 2. I've checked the settings on my phone, and it is getting those addresses in that order from DHCP. But whenever my phone goes to resolve an address it uses OpenDNS, not my primary server and I have no idea why.
I know there was a recent issue with Android no longer resolving ".local" domains, but I don't think that relates to this issue since I'm using ".workgroup".
I have no idea how to start troubleshooting this and I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks!
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DNS 1 and 2 aren't necessarily used in any order, it's random which one the phone accesses each time. It's not reliable to use 2 DNS servers and assume it's always going to use the first one.
Have you tried to only hand out the local DNS and nothing for DNS 2 to see if it works properly? Then you can narrow down if it is in fact an issue with DNS resolution or the phone using the wrong DNS server that you gave it.

peacey8 said:
DNS 1 and 2 aren't necessarily used in any order, it's random which one the phone accesses each time. It's not reliable to use 2 DNS servers and assume it's always going to use the first one.
Have you tried to only hand out the local DNS and nothing for DNS 2 to see if it works properly? Then you can narrow down if it is in fact an issue with DNS resolution or the phone using the wrong DNS server that you gave it.
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Yeah, I just removed OpenDNS from my DHCP config and it works fine. I suppose I don't need OpenDNS in there, I just had it as a fallback.