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I have used Monster Chinese (Version 5 for WM5) for my Wizard (8125, G3) since I purchased teh device a little more than a year ago and have had much problem. The only difficulty I got was the Monster SIP keyboard won't pop up so sometimes it required a soft reset. Now I loaded several different WM6 ROMs I found here but always have problem - the system is slowing down, sometimes it get frozen/won't weakup...
I am not sure if this problem is caused by Monster Chinese. However since a lot of people here reported very stable/smooth experience with the same ROMs on the same type of devices, I can only question the apps I added by myself if I get the problem other peole won't. I wonder if there is anyone who is also using this Chinese software on a WM6 mochine (especially Wizard), and if yes can you kindly share some of your experience about it?
I know someone talked about CE-Star but for some reason I felt Monster Chinese is a better choice. Now I might reconsider it if CE-Star creates less trouble.
I've been always using one of the WWE kitchens here, replace with chinese wince.nls, add chinese fonts, add necessary registry modifications. And I'll get a stable WM6 ROM with English interface, but fully supports chinese.
lilila said:
I've been always using one of the WWE kitchens here, replace with chinese wince.nls, add chinese fonts, add necessary registry modifications. And I'll get a stable WM6 ROM with English interface, but fully supports chinese.
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Sounds very promissing. Could you provide some details about how you can do this - necessary files, hacks...
Btw, is there any Chinese input method included?
XDA WM6 with Monster CHinese and SIP
I tried using CE-Star Suite 2.8 Version R2a freezes all the time, and cannot connect to msn messenger live.
Monster Chinese and it's SIP works better, less freezes and msn can connect but still freezes with wm6, but I found XDA WM6 version best for Monster Chinese ....less freeze and the SIP keyboard popups faster and doesn't feezes as much, also I overclock too. But XDA WM6 does make a different when installing Monster Chinese.
This is the only way I got chinese working well, but it does affect the OS sometimes. Oh also install monster chinese as your last program is best cause I notice sometimes it conflicts with other programs, but if you install it last it runs better.
g0dblissyou said:
I tried using CE-Star Suite 2.8 Version R2a freezes all the time, and cannot connect to msn messenger live.
Monster Chinese and it's SIP works better, less freezes and msn can connect but still freezes with wm6, but I found XDA WM6 version best for Monster Chinese ....less freeze and the SIP keyboard popups faster and doesn't feezes as much, also I overclock too. But XDA WM6 does make a different when installing Monster Chinese.
This is the only way I got chinese working well, but it does affect the OS sometimes.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. So it is confirmed that Monster Chinese will affect WM6 performance. Good to know you feel XDA WM6 performs better. I installed this one but moved to NBD7.3 for HTC Touch Today plugin. I probably will move back when a new XDA version is released.
I hope Maction can release a upgrade for WM6 soon (but I doubt). I like the hand-writing input for both simplified and traditional Chinese it has.
One thing I also want to try once I got some free time - I want to configure the WM6 to support Chinese as lilila posted and install Monster SIP only for Chinese input. Hope this is avoid the conflict Monster Chinese creates. This will be valid if the problem is from Monster Chinese but not Monster SIP.
Oh also install monster chinese as your last program is best cause I notice sometimes it conflicts with other programs, but if you install it last it runs better.
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My feeling is the keyboard has more chance to popup if you install the Monster SIP the first. This is the major problem I have had since I moved to WM5. We may need more testing on this. But I will try to load it the last and see if there is any difference.
My feeling is the keyboard has more chance to popup if you install the Monster SIP the first. This is the major problem I have had since I moved to WM5. We may need more testing on this. But I will try to load it the last and see if there is any difference.[/QUOTE]
Oh hey I install it that way too, first I install the IME keyboards first then Monster Chinese, then Monster SIP...works best this way when I install in these steps.
lilila said:
I've been always using one of the WWE kitchens here, replace with chinese wince.nls, add chinese fonts, add necessary registry modifications. And I'll get a stable WM6 ROM with English interface, but fully supports chinese.
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That sounds pretty good, you should install the IME keyboard and MonserSIP.....and it would be perfect.
g0dblissyou said:
That sounds pretty good, you should install the IME keyboard and MonserSIP.....and it would be perfect.
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Would you mind to share where to get IME keyboard for PPC? Do you mean it will just like the one we have with desktop Windows? Thanks.
I am able to get the Block-mode Handwriting function in Chinese WM5 work in WM6 WWE and also Chinese interface without having to cook a ROM. The process is not as easy as installing a cab, but I can share it here if you want.
starkwong said:
I am able to get the Block-mode Handwriting function in Chinese WM5 work in WM6 WWE and also Chinese interface without having to cook a ROM. The process is not as easy as installing a cab, but I can share it here if you want.
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Please do. Everyone interested in this topic, including myself, would appreciate.
yup...i m using ce-star + WM6, always crash...=(
clia said:
Sounds very promissing. Could you provide some details about how you can do this - necessary files, hacks...
Btw, is there any Chinese input method included?
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download Windows Mobile 6 Professional Images (CHT) or Windows Mobile 6 Professional Images (CHS).
Install the Emulators, and extract the wince.nls(CHT or CHS version) files from the windows directory. Also extract the mingliu.ac3 font file for CHT and the mingliu.ac3 for CHS.
Export the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink]
and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls]
registries form the emulator for CHS and CHT.
Then in the kitchen, \SYS\WinCENLS_WWE directory, replace with the wince.nls you want: for CHT, copy mingliu.ac3 to the SYS\OS\ directory, for CHS, mingliu.ac3.
You can also prepare two OEM packages called nls and FonLink: the registry hacks for CHT and CHS that exported from the emulators. Or you can just import the registry after flashing the rom.
As for input methods, there are quite a few of them, either as OEM packages or in CAB formats.
Solution found.
lilila said:
download Windows Mobile 6 Professional Images (CHT) or Windows Mobile 6 Professional Images (CHS).
Install the Emulators, and extract the wince.nls(CHT or CHS version) files from the windows directory. Also extract the mingliu.ac3 font file for CHT and the mingliu.ac3 for CHS.
Export the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink]
and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls]
registries form the emulator for CHS and CHT.
Then in the kitchen, \SYS\WinCENLS_WWE directory, replace with the wince.nls you want: for CHT, copy mingliu.ac3 to the SYS\OS\ directory, for CHS, mingliu.ac3.
You can also prepare two OEM packages called nls and FonLink: the registry hacks for CHT and CHS that exported from the emulators. Or you can just import the registry after flashing the rom.
As for input methods, there are quite a few of them, either as OEM packages or in CAB formats.
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Thanks for your advice. Taking the Independence Day break, I flashed my phone with NBD7.4 and tried several methods to enable Chinese support on an English ROM. Sorry I didn't follow your instruction since I don't know how to cook ROM and it seems not easy for me to learn . Luckily I found a simple way -
With NBD7.4 flashed into the phone, I simply installed a unicode font pack I found from the Internet, which includes multilingal characters, and restart (soft reset) the Wizard. The Chinese characters will be displaced nicely on screen. No need to reload wince.nls and/or change any registry key.
Later I installed Maction SIP (v5) with several input methods. Everything works fine so far.
This is a big issue to me since it resolved WM6 powered Wizard hangs up from time to time when Monster Chinese is installed. The only negative thing I can see is the font pack takes quite big space so if you need to load a lot of stuff in main memory, you may want to plan ahead.
DFUHMD.cab
Can you supply the link or file for DFUHMD.cab, How is your experience with is it more stable then Monster Chinese on wm6.
Lilila,
Would you be kind enough to share those files and registry changes with us so that we don't have to go thru all that trouble?
Thank you so much!
lilila said:
download Windows Mobile 6 Professional Images (CHT) or Windows Mobile 6 Professional Images (CHS).
Install the Emulators, and extract the wince.nls(CHT or CHS version) files from the windows directory. Also extract the mingliu.ac3 font file for CHT and the mingliu.ac3 for CHS.
Export the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink]
and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\nls]
registries form the emulator for CHS and CHT.
Then in the kitchen, \SYS\WinCENLS_WWE directory, replace with the wince.nls you want: for CHT, copy mingliu.ac3 to the SYS\OS\ directory, for CHS, mingliu.ac3.
You can also prepare two OEM packages called nls and FonLink: the registry hacks for CHT and CHS that exported from the emulators. Or you can just import the registry after flashing the rom.
As for input methods, there are quite a few of them, either as OEM packages or in CAB formats.
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progress?
i'm really interested in this topic, i'm currently trying to get TomTom 6's chinese hardwriting/transcriber input to work, the pingying/zhuying work fine.
the handwriting/transcriber don't, though it seems to work fine with a chinese rom, so i'm trying to figure out where the problem is. i've tried installing monster chinese and CE-Star. both cause my system to hang...ALOT. so i was hoping this would work.
i'm just curious if anyone knows of the root of the problem, and if any progress have been made
i'm currently trying to make heads and tails of this
thanks
sunnycheng said:
Lilila,
Would you be kind enough to share those files and registry changes with us so that we don't have to go thru all that trouble?
Thank you so much!
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The link for the files:
http://rapidshare.com/files/45830591/CHtCHs.zip.html
I have built cabs for my packs, look at my signature.
The Chinese support pack includes all input method equipped with Traditional Chinese version of WM (Chajei, Phonetic, Writing Pad and Full Screen Writing. Chajei and Phonetic can use hardware keyboard).
The MUI pack localizes most parts of WM6, with shortcut names.
However before use, remember to backup your data, then apply the 2 security cabs, or you will get big trouble (Due to the fact that system DLLs are required to be signed, and it is not possible/feasible to get all DLLs signed with a valid certificate)
hey stark, i tried downloading the disablesecurity.cab from your website, the link doesn't work, says file isn't on server
is anyone else having that problem?
thanksss
Sorry, there is a mistake in the filename (CAB vs cab)
It is fixed now.
Remember to backup your Wizard before installing!
andot,
first of all, you've done a great job on the updated WM6 ROMs. but as of now, those who use english interface and need to read and compose chinese occasionally have dilema on which ROM to choose. the only available one is WWE you released some time ago but it is quite outdated and buggy.
we are requesting for you to release an updated version on WWE where users can have the best of both worlds (English interface + chinese language support like those found in original dopod 577w) including bug fixes such as camera, GPRS issues, Wifi, comm manager, etc. i like the fact that much of the UI is untouched with no fancy clocks or bars in the old WWE build.
once again, THANK YOU very much for your hard work!
Nop, it is not the best of both world, it is the best for your world only. Most of us here do not require Chinese file, what we want is to make the ROM as CLEAN as possible, if you want chinese, you can always install the langpacks and fontpack, if you do some research, you can get it.
Or, safe the hassle, pay for CE-star
what can i say?different people have different needs. one man's meat is another man's poison. you cant expect everyone to think like you.
besides, andot's tornado WWE ROM has ~ 18MB ROM on fresh format, that's a lot of space increase compared to original WM5 ROM.
installing aditional language pack is a hassle and increased space usage a lot more than when embedded in ROM. i've tried PEE before, also has about 18MB ROM left. installed chinese language alone would take ~5MB, not to mention it doesn't work prefectly.
If andot decides to update the Tornado WWE WM6, there are people, especially asians will use it. other "so called senior member" who cant think in other people's shoes might not appreciate it, but i'll very much thank you for it.
Install Ce-star as I've said somewhere to some guy. It takes about 5MB space. I think you can install the trial version and use it without problem as they only charge you for the input not for the Chinese support. If you want Chinese input you can always install Plum SIP. It is totally free and much better than the Ce-star Chinese input.
Whether the langpack is embeded in the ROM or not does not make any difference, when cooking a ROM, the files are added, and registry are modified before flashing. If you install the langpack after flashing, you add the files, you modify the registry
And there is no need for your sarcastic comment.
FYI, I did PM melgurth a few times and discussed with him on how I can port the chinese T9 and language pack form Dopod AKU2 ROM.
If only I have the time, I will try to cook a ROM for chinese users, just that my exam is approaching and it is not wise to spend so much time for it now.
I think I offended you in my earlier post, my apology for that
please accept my apology too. but i must stand firm on my side that there are people who need both languages in one device, at least im one of them. im not trying to cause any trouble here.. just hoping andot will fulfill our needs if he has the time to spare.. or maybe you can do it, since (correct me if im wrong) you need it too..
Coolcode.cn has best WM6.0 English and Chinese version.
it is great!
I tried to import the T9 chinese files from AKU2 to my phone yesterday, so far I managed to get T9 pinyin, but it only shows boxes, I think I need to modify the font
Ok, I managed to port the T9 pinyin and T9 stroke file over to WM6, however I only can view them as blocks which mean I have some problem with the fonts, I duno why I just cant view Chinese character despite trying so many fonts.
Anyone have suggestion ?
try asking andot for help? i fully support your effort (or andot if he has time to build updated WWE with bug fix)!
karhoe said:
Ok, I managed to port the T9 pinyin and T9 stroke file over to WM6, however I only can view them as blocks which mean I have some problem with the fonts, I duno why I just cant view Chinese character despite trying so many fonts.
Anyone have suggestion ?
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u really missed something, u only have the input method doesnt means u can view chinese word, however it might fix with a font cab, u can download it over HERE . Please notice that after u install this cab your english characters will become so small, i know it can fix using registry threat but i dunno how to fix it, good luck!
Yea, I know, that is why I said I have problem installing the font. No matter what font I used, I still get blocks.
We can actually just add the font file but don't set it as system font, so the characters wont be small, im trying to do that, gonna hard reset first
karhoe said:
Yea, I know, that is why I said I have problem installing the font. No matter what font I used, I still get blocks.
We can actually just add the font file but don't set it as system font, so the characters wont be small, im trying to do that, gonna hard reset first
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Do U mean u need an English interface but still can read chinese? I hope i dint misunderstand...... what i did was, i install the chinese font cab 1st, after reboot will become chinese interface, then go to setting>regional settings> Set Locale to English(US) then reboot, will become english interface with chinese support, but font remain so small lol...hope it helps.
Can you post the cab file here? Cause I am pretty finished, except for installing the font, I tried to install the font by copy the neccesaries file and create new registry keys by referring to the regisry on AKU2 ROM
What I did was this
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontPath]
"FontPath"="\windows\Fonts"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Courier New"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Nina"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
I hope I can solve this problem if you can pass me the cab file
Yes, I need an English interface but can compose and read chinese SMS
karhoe said:
Can you post the cab file here? Cause I am pretty finished, except for installing the font, I tried to install the font by copy the neccesaries file and create new registry keys by referring to the regisry on AKU2 ROM
What I did was this
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontPath]
"FontPath"="\windows\Fonts"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Courier New"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Nina"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
I hope I can solve this problem if you can pass me the cab file
Yes, I need an English interface but can compose and read chinese SMS
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I already post it on my #11 reply, it was http://rapidshare.com/files/53340896/Chinese-WM6_Sung.zip.html
I DID IT !!!, it worked !
But i'm going to say, this is the most ridiculous registry system ever, ill try to make a cab now including the font file
System font looks perfect !
Now there is only one minor bug (fixed)
I also realized a simple typo in the ROM, I fixed it, and now it unlocks the option to change between languages ( dont see any use of it )
karhoe said:
I DID IT !!!, it worked !
But i'm going to say, this is the most ridiculous registry system ever, ill try to make a cab now including the font file
System font looks perfect !
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Lol, congratulations man
ITS ALL FIXED, everything is fixed,
Now, T9 Pinyin = pinyin
T9 Stroke = stroke
Now, I just want to package it into cab file
Btw, do you guys think Sunglobe.ttf ( true type font ) or sunfon.ac3 ( compressed font format ) looks better? Difference is only few kb
Hmm, I actually spent 1 whole day to do this thing, and I screwed my OS in the process, thank god its perfected now
Alright, done, please try and give me your feedback
http://rapidshare.com/files/53386427/T9_Chinese_by_karhoe.cab
Remmember to reboot your phone
If this works well, I will cook it into Phil's BETA II together with Chinese localization files
Cab includes font file, sunglobe.tff, this one takes 3MB, the 2nd smallest size I had, the other one is sunfon.ac3 ( compressed font ), found in Dopod AKU2 ROM, but difference is only a few KBs
Good work there Karhoe! i don't have my phone with me now so i cant be sure if it works, but im pretty sure from the screenshots it does work.
Hi, i need know if is really problematic make(cook) a rom of PPC for the tornado, same the ok KAMIKAZZE, please any help i need know how to work on it.
really thank for help.
thanks
Any help?? pleaseee no one use the kamikazze rom??
thanks
My respect to those who do use it WM6.1PRO on a Tornado. However, there isn't much sense on doing so when we already have a WM6.1 for Tornado. You should try it out. Works very nice!
markanthonypr said:
My respect to those who do use it WM6.1PRO on a Tornado. However, there isn't much sense on doing so when we already have a WM6.1 for Tornado. You should try it out. Works very nice!
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i beg to differ markanthonypr there is some sence put it in to a tornado rom and that is just for the sake of it having a profesional rom on a smathphone it just looks cool plus its not that hard to use it without a touch screen, i had it on my phone for several month's with no problems at all aside from the emulator as you already guess it it makes evry emulator with touch support enable it self so it do sent let you use as you would on a standard rom that made me switch to my current rom that is to a standard one, so all in all it makes sence it's yust depends on what you like tha's y there's a saying (To Each its Own)
I agree, I make full use of my tornado with a pro rom. There is absolutely no problem in using it without the touch screen, apart from some program that is not optimized for the d-pad.
Again, my respects to all who have the patience to play with the Fack Cursor. I can't! I did try 2 Pro rom's, they were great, very fast and stable, however... whenever there is a beter solution than Fack Cursor, I would consider it, menwhile, I'm stuck with Standard.
I'm interested the same - cooking WM6.1 Pro ROM for Tornado.
I have PL MUI files for WM6.1 Pro, but i must integrate this with ROM. How do can this?
In one page of China i saw lot of wm 6.1 prof fo the tornado but all in chinese, if any know how to cook one with out the chinese lenguage, i think can help me.
thank
I'm trying to build my own kicthen for WM6.1 Pro, but it's possible?
i dont know if it is posible, but i saw lot of roms in chinese page.
I use virtuamouse, it's not freeware but it's better than fake cursor. If I had to cook a rom anyway I would put fakecursor too, because virtuamouse sporadically fails to show up in some application.
If you cook I'm in to test. I have 2 tornado's, both with a pro rom.
I would like to integrate the touchflo 2d, but I can't install because of storage space. It would be nice to find a storage card version.
I have the same problem with TouchFlo 2D. I tried to modify CAB to install on storage card, but is still installing to storage space. Any information for TouchFlo 2D on memory card is needed.
EDIT: Any news about kitchen for WM6.1 Pro for Tornado ?
I Just flashed the Tornado with the RC6, and although it is indeed in russian, i've noticed the VGAKEY is simply set to primary language russian. However, i was unable to find the key that will enable me to scroll up and do the changes.
I'm guessing i'm gonna need to install a "cursor" and then once you change the VGAKEY to english primary, it should all be in english i'm guessing
Is not this. In RC5, VGAKEY primary language is Russian, but all ROM is in English. I tried to set English in RC6, but this is impossible without programs.
If rom is in russian you can't install english afterwards... Can anyone confirm if I'm right?
p.s.: Can anyone contact Kamikadze to earn his kitchen or any info?
markanthonypr said:
Again, my respects to all who have the patience to play with the Fack Cursor. I can't! I did try 2 Pro rom's, they were great, very fast and stable, however... whenever there is a beter solution than Fack Cursor, I would consider it, menwhile, I'm stuck with Standard.
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I use kamikadze's pro ROM and the only time I need to use cursor is when setting alarm. Otherwise, buttons can do all the work. So, patience is not something that is needed with it. Just install mobile shell and admire the masterpiece of look/functionality.
By the way, I dont know if there is a new version of kamikadze's ROM, but the one that I use (installed it ten days ago) has an english version, you just need to set english in regional settings.
Hope this solves some problems we all have been
having with wm6 and hebrew:
Hebrew for TYTN II users:
http://rapidshare.com/files/151232924/TYTN-II-6.1.rar
Hebrew for P560:
http://rapidshare.com/files/151231182/MUI-P560-6.0.rar
Hebrew for Diamond/Touch:
http://rapidshare.com/files/151231825/MUI-Diamond-6.1.rar
Tytn/Hermes wm6 Users might wanna check out the
ultra-light Hebrew version made by me.
ENJOY
***all version are untouched meaning they are the original ext.rom wm6
but may slow you down this way or the other i take no responsibility ..
TYTN user however can use my changed version
with superlight support hence very fast and stable
axim x50v?
can you make a hebrew version for us to?
another hebrew support
you guys may take a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426707
dig deep in the thread, and you'll find many interesting things
good luck
i have tytn II- Kaiser and i installed it and all i get is mirror hebrew.
can you advise how can i solve it ?
is it something that i need to redefine at the menus ?
i have build 19212.1.0.3
thanks for the Support
Saar
You know I took the files of these
PDA shame that people can not give credit
Hellp
Used to establish that the Hebrew
installed files on my vario 2 restarted
now does not want to include stops on the first page, and requests to register the program
I can not synchronize and update the rum
what to do how to upgrade rum ?????
T mobile vario 2 hermes
yessssss
I managed to fix the problem
Wonder if someone still has the diamond hebrew files... rapidshare links are DOWN!
searched "MUI-Diamond-6.1.rar" all over the net with no avail...
Hi all i am new att this but i need some help.
I got hp 614c with WM 6.1.
Quastions:
1: Can i use HTC made WM 6.1 roms?
2: Can it take dmg if i use other roms then my own HP IpaQ 614 roms?
3: I need a swedish xt9 for my ipaq (tryed several, non working, i'll try anything you think might work)
4: Is there anyway i can get WM 6.1 on swedish?
5: Can anyone recommend a easy app to send same sms to multiple contacts without add them 1 by 1 (so i can add several contacts in the list by check them or something)
Thanks in advance //AzAkiii
PS. I Searched for theese things all day, and i got no luck! thats why i am posting it!
You will brick your phone if you try and load a rom not made for your phone.
Try group sms for sending sms messages to mass groups of people.
thanks!
Then i wont to that for sure!
Still wondering about xt9 for swedish on my ipac 614c
search for GroupSMS 1.4.3 in the forum.
also, try going to www.cootek.com and check their forum for a swedish language pack for TouchPal 3.5...
nevermind... saved you the trouble.. this is the direct link to their forum to the swedish language pack post with the cab file.
you will have to BUY touchpal to use it.
http://www.cootek.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=516
I don't know about the xt9 you'll just have to try some different programs, you'l just have to find something compatible. This is an htc forum and thats what i'm familiar with, i don't know to much about ipaq's (hp) (much less a swedish version )