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I have a Titan (PPC6800) with WM6. I just noticed the notes in the contacts are truncated with this message:
[Text truncated on device. Modification of these items on the device will overwrite full text on desktop.]
The text was cutoff afteer about 6Kb notes.
This wasn't happening on my older Smartphone Audiovox SMT5600 Anyone experince this? Is it the new ActiveSync or WM6 orVista? Any Idea how to fix this?
HootanRoosta said:
The text was cutoff afteer about 6Kb notes.
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6Kb? A note or a novel? ;o)
edit: OK to be helpful, if you create a link in your Contact notes to a document such as a word doc, a note, or a spreadsheet, like this example you might be able to avoid long notes, and truncation
file://\Storage%20Card\someDirectory\someFile.doc
This will be converted to a hyperlink if you add a space after the end of your document's name, and when clicked on will open PIE, then the corresponding application for you, and the document containing your notes. I've done some experimentation and it has to be entered in exactly the way I have shown in order to work, even though it is a mix of forward slashes and backslashes
contact notes truncated
Hello HTC mobile pc users...
Good news...
I use contact notes everyday. if you edit a contact note that has been truncated on your device (mines HTC TyTn that I got from Vodafone which now runs wm6satin...) you will loose the full notes on your pc... a real bloody nuisance... not to mention having to use Phatnotes which isn't great cause you have to sync it to your outlook on the pc to get your updated notes on your device...
Halleluiah!!! I have found an easy way to resolve the problem... it will apparently work on wm5 and I know it works on my wm6satin HTC TyTn...
Basically ActiveSync will only allow the pocket pc to accept 5k of data - most annoying... the below procedure will allow you to allocate as much memory to the contact notes on your pocket pc as you need... obviously if your equipment melts I cannot be held responsible - the procedure works for me on my device and I have a lot of text in my contact notes...
Download free PHM RegEdit (find it on Google)...
HKEY Current User
\software
\Microsoft
\ActiveSync
\Body truncation = 20480 decimal
When you first open this line the decimal reading will be 5120... I multiplied this number x4 which = 20480 which gives me plenty of contact note space and has not reduced my device memory by any noticeable amount... you can find out what you need but as a rough guide 15k = 400 lines of contact note text and you are still left with 25% still available if you opt for 20480 decimal (20K)...
I think it is better to hard reset the device... install the PHM RegEdit from the cab file you copied to your microcard... then sync using ActiveSync... and hey presto... all your notes are on your HTC...
I have noticed on the HKEY_CURRENT_USER and the HKEY LOCAL MACHINE I get the line "RegPersisted 1 (0X000001)" At the time of writing this does not affect the phone in any way. If someone knows what this means they might contribute... Thanks...
Regards,
Jay
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Hello HTC mobile pc users...
Good news...
I use contact notes everyday. if you edit a contact note that has been truncated on your device (mines HTC TyTn that I got from Vodafone which now runs wm6satin...) you will loose the full notes on your pc... a real bloody nuisance... not to mention having to use Phatnotes which isn't great cause you have to sync it to your outlook on the pc to get your updated notes on your device...
Halleluiah!!! I have found an easy way to resolve the problem... it will apparently work on wm5 and I know it works on my wm6satin HTC TyTn...
Basically ActiveSync will only allow the pocket pc to accept 5k of data - most annoying... the below procedure will allow you to allocate as much memory to the contact notes on your pocket pc as you need... obviously if your equipment melts I cannot be held responsible - the procedure works for me on my device and I have a lot of text in my contact notes...
Download free PHM RegEdit (find it on Google)...
HKEY Current User
\software
\Microsoft
\ActiveSync
\Body truncation = 20480 decimal
When you first open this line the decimal reading will be 5120... I multiplied this number x4 which = 20480 which gives me plenty of contact note space and has not reduced my device memory by any noticeable amount... you can find out what you need but as a rough guide 15k = 400 lines of contact note text and you are still left with 25% still available if you opt for 20480 decimal (20K)...
I think it is better to hard reset the device... install the PHM RegEdit from the cab file you copied to your microcard... then sync using ActiveSync... and hey presto... all your notes are on your HTC...
I have noticed on the HKEY_CURRENT_USER and the HKEY LOCAL MACHINE I get the line "RegPersisted 1 (0X000001)" At the time of writing this does not affect the phone in any way. If someone knows what this means they might contribute... Thanks...
Regards,
Jay
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Jay - I was having the same problem. Your solution worked as advertised. Thanks for researching the problem
(Note that if you’ve never heard of ignore_my_docs, you can safely skip this article. It’s only meant for users of previous Windows Mobile operating systems that would like to know whether ignore_my_docs is still in effect.)
There is still a lot of confusion caused by ignore_my_docs explained for example in THIS (this is the most important article!), THIS and THIS threads / articles.
WM5 (and, of course, all subsequent operating system versions), finally, got rid of this, for several Windows Mobile users, pretty confusing feature as is explained for example HERE or HERE.
In a nutshell: WM5+ is different from how earlier OS versions behaved if and only if they also contained an ignore_my_docs file in the root of the card and also a \My Documents directory. In this case, only the contents of \My Documents (and ALL its subdirs) were accessible, nothing else on the card. An example screenshot of my WM2003 HP iPAQ 2210 showing this in effect is in HERE (with removed ignore_my_docs) and HERE (with present ignore_my_docs). As you can see, in the former case, the content of the other directories on the card aren’t listed, only those of \My Documents on it (and, incidentally, all its subdirs – as opposed to the case of WM5+, where this is no longer the case).
All in all, under WM5 and later operating systems, it doesn’t make any difference whether there’s an ignore_my_docs file in the root of a storage card or not: the standard file dialog will see all directories - one directory deep. The latter also applies to \My Documents, unfortunately, as has also been explained HERE. This problem still hasn't been fixed.
Noticing this behaviour of WM5 I put a question about one year ago: how can I save my new files produced by Word, Excel and Notes to 'Storage Card\My Documents' by default, instead of the root of Storage Card. In WM5 and WM6 you can set these apps to save every new doc to Storage Card but you cannot specify any subdir -- unlike the older OS where My Documents was the "root".
Nobody answered so far.
So, I guess your post also means that there are no solution for the above described problem.
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Noticing this behaviour of WM5 I put a question about one year ago: how can I save my new files produced by Word, Excel and Notes to 'Storage Card\My Documents' by default, instead of the root of Storage Card. In WM5 and WM6 you can set these apps to save every new doc to Storage Card but you cannot specify any subdir -- unlike the older OS where My Documents was the "root".
Nobody answered so far.
So, I guess your post also means that there are no solution for the above described problem.
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Word / Excel Mobile use a different file selector; therefore, FDC / Pocket Plus can't help with them.
I don't have a definite answer to your question; I'll, however, try to look around / experiment. I'll post the answer into this thread if I find it.
You, hopefully, already know Opera Mini 4, which, currently, I recommend the most for all Windows Mobile users as the primary browser. It’s especially useful if you are on either a slow (say, GPRS) or expensive (non-flat rate) data plan and/or you also use Opera on the desktop and, therefore, can make use of the excellent, remote (!) favorite synchronization offered by Opera Link.
So far, it was impossible to quickly invoke Opera Mini from any mailer applications by just clicking / activating Web links in them. This was a major stumbling block for many, which is quite understandable. Yes, it’s a major pain in the back to having to rely on Internet Explorer (Opera Mobile, Netfront etc.) for displaying the given Web page - instead of the much faster / cheaper / prettier Opera Mini.
Of course, Pocket PC (using the new terminology, Windows Mobile 6 Professional / Classic) users have always had an escape route. They still could highlight the link and, then, copy it to the clipboard. After that, they could still invoke Opera Mini, go to Menu / Enter Address and paste the URL there. (Assuming, of course, they use a copy/paste-capable MIDlet Manager. The outdated and, unless you have specific needs or an old operating system, in no way recommended TAO isn’t one of them; the recommended Jbed is.) An example of highlighting a link and copying to the clipboard is depicted in the following screenshot:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This, however, resulted in multiple screen taps and has never been so simple as just clicking a link in the mail body and let the system invoke the browser and pass the link to it.
And, of course, the above-explained way of copying URL’s to Opera Mini doesn’t work with touchscreen-less MS Smartphone (in the new terminology, Windows Mobile 6 Standard) models. Not even with external Copy/Paste tools like VITO’s excellent, free CopyPaste.
Because of the acuteness of the problem, I’ve thought very hard on solving the problem and making Opera Mini (OM for short) a browser that doesn’t suffer from this problem. And, during a lengthy swimming & sauna session, it occurred to me how it can be solved. Yeah, it’s mostly during swimming that I get the best, most revolutionary ideas
First, the pros and the cons so that you can see what you can expect of my solution.
Pros
Fully Seamless integration into Messaging (or any other mailer app), Notes, Word Mobile, PDF readers, MobiPocket (or any other text processing / viewing app) etc under ALL Windows Mobile / Pocket PC operating systems before Windows Mobile 6, on both the Pocket PC and Smartphone platforms
While it’s not compatible with WM6 Smartphones (WM6 Standard devices), on WM6 Pocket PC’s, you can still pretty easily invoke OM and pass the given URL to it.
It’s free and pretty easy to set up
Cons
It isn’t compatible with WM6 Smartphones like the HTC Vox (s710) or the HTC Wings (s730). Sorry.
With WM6 Pocket PC’s (unlike previous OS version), some additional manual work is needed, compared to the pre-WM6 cases. That is, just clicking the link won’t suffice.
It will NOT work on local HTM(L) files on your device – that is, not external links. That is, you won’t be able to render a local HTML file if you click it from File Explorer. However, as it’s mostly remote links that you’ll want to view, not local files, this isn’t that big a problem.
Again, let’s emphasize it again:
with WM6 PPC’s (unlike with pre-WM6 ones), you must copy the URL to the clipboard and only after this click the link!
It does NOT work with touchscreen-less WM6 Smartphones (WM6 Standard devices)! That’s because of the operating system’s inability for any kind of copy/paste operation.
Installation, usage
download and install MortScript if you haven’t already done so. Make sure you install it in the main memory (unless you’re ready to modify the scripts I’ve provided).
download THIS file
depending on your operating system version, go to either the WM5 or WM6 directory of the ZIP file downloaded in the previous step. Note that if you’re still using a pre-WM5 operating system, you’ll need the WM5 version.
transfer OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr to \Program Files\MortScript on your device
import the registry file into the Registry (WM5: OMInvokeAndPaste.reg; WM6: OMWM6DefBrowser.reg). if you do this on a MS Smartphone, make sure it is application unlocked. I’ve published several articles on (the absolutely legal) app unlock; see for example THIS
If you absolutely don’t know how the Registry import file needs to be imported, do either of the following:
either get (and, even better, purchase - they DO deserve it as it’s a REALLY excellent app) SOTI’s Pocket Controller. Install it, connect to your device, click the Registry icon. Then, select Edit / Import in the new remote Registry Editor window. Search for the registry file and import it.
or, get Resco Explorer. Install it on your mobile device; make sure you don’t disable the Registry editor install. Start the latter and, then, just exit it – this makes sure .REG files become associated with the Registry editor. Now, after you’ve transferred the REG file to your handset, just click it from inside File Explorer. Voila: it gets imported into the local Registry.
That’s all – from now on, clicking links in mails, documents etc. should fire up OM and pass the URL.
How you can (and when you must) modify OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr ?
The majority of the application logic is, in both the WM5 and WM6 versions, in OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr. Therefore, you’ll need to modify it in the following cases:
first, the most important instruction you’ll need to modify is the second row Run("\Windows\jbed.exe", "-run sX_"), where X is either 0 or 1 (I’ve set it to 0 in the WM5 and to 1 in the WM6 script).
As is explained in my earlier Opera Mini & Jbed-tutorial and posts (see for example THIS) , along with other people (see for example THIS), X stands for as how manieth OM was deployed under Jbed.
also note that, if you have to use a pre-WM5 operating system, it’s here that you need to define your TAO / IMB J9 links. Please consult the related section in the MIDlet Bible for more info on how these links need to be created.
Just remember the following: the Run() function requires two parameters, both enclosed in “’s. First is the executable; the second is the passed parameters. The latter string, of course, can (and with both IBM J9 and TAO, will) consist of several parameters.
the script is geared towards Opera Mini 4 users. Under Opera Mini 3 (or previous versions), the initial two SendLeftSoft calls will NOT result in the “Enter address” dialog coming up. With Opera Mini 3, therefore, you will need to change the second SendLeftSoft to SendCR as follows:
#SetClipText(url)
Run("\Windows\jbed.exe", "-run s0_")
Sleep(6000)
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(400)
SendCR
Note that the above code snippet has SetClipText(url) commented out (note the # at the beginning of the row). This is only needed under WM6; under previous operating systems, you MUST NOT comment it out.
finally, you can fine-tune the parameters of Sleep() in the code so that OM is still reliably invoked. With the code above, for example, I let MortScript wait for 6 seconds (6000 milliseconds) before starting to emulating left softkey presses.
Quick explanation for the different behavior under WM6 (only for geeks / hackers / programmers!)
Under WM6, invoking the default Web browser isn’t any more done the same way as under previous operating systems. There, the contents of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ Shell\Rai\ : DEFBROWSER\1 tell the system what to invoke. Here, unfortunately, it’s impossible to define additional command-line parameters. Parameters DO get passed (in the background), but you can’t name them. MortScript, however, relies on the latter – that is, named parameters referable under their name, NOT their index.
Under pre-WM6 operating systems, it was easy to name the parameters you passed to programs as can clearly be seen in the WM5-specific Registry import file, which just overwrites the old value of HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ http\Shell\Open\ Command:
@="\"\\Program Files\\MortScript\\MortScript.exe\" \"\\Program Files\\MortScript\\OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr\" url=\"%1\""
Here, I’ve named the parameter “url”. This is why the first row in the MortScript file is as follows:
SetClipText(url)
This just instructs MortScript to copy the contents of the “var” variable (which, now, comes from the “outside” of the script) to the clipboard so that, later, it can be pasted back to the URL input field.
Feel free to quickly scrutinize the two, WM6- and pre-WM6-specific Registry import files so that you can see this for yourself.
Currently, I don’t know a way of naming parameters under WM6. Of course, when I come up with a solution, I let you all know.
UPDATE (11/29/2007): thanks to badbob001 on my blog, now, as opposed to the initial case, WM6 devices (both Pocket PC's and Smartphones) are FULLY supported!!!!!!!
This all means there is no longer a difference between how WM6 and pre-WM6 operating systems behave. You only need to make sure to get the right .MSCR and Registry import files from the already-updated ZIP file, depending on your operating system version. That is, for WM6, get the files from the WM6 subdirectory, for pre-WM6 operating systems, from the WM5 one. And, of course, modify the scripts if Opera Mini isn't deployed as the first app under Jbed, the, by default, supported (and highly recommended) MIDlet manager.
Again: Under WM6, manual link copying to the clipboard is no longer needed and, again, it works 100% on WM6 Smartphones as well!
(note that now that WM6 is fully supported, I haven’t edited the original article; its WM6-related parts are now outdated. Again, WM6 is fully supported now and there's no difference between the usability on pre-WM6 and the WM6 platforms any more.)
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I hate to be a pain, but I am trying to view the registry file. Can you suggest a product to view the file? I followed the instructions and was having problems, so I am trying to undo the registry changes.
Thanks
Never mind. I found the registry entry.
Tnx for sharing this great idea ... always wanted one, at least until Opera Mobile 9 will be released.
I have HTC Artemis = WM6 Pro, Cloudyfa Jbed 20070802.2.1 on Storage Card and Opera Mini 4. This is the only midlet so far installed, none other present as of now.
Following is my experience:
1. When Opera Mini is not running, and has to be launched I always get a message "Could not find suite s0_", and then later Opera Mini does get launched but no address input happens. Simply the browser is launched in other words.
2. If Opera Mini is already running, everything works nicely ... no probs here.
3. I use this app, RSS Reader, Spb Insight (I think the best, beats NewsReader except that it has no podcast download support). When I click on the link address in the article (btw, I even cannot copy them in this app), PocketIE/Opera Mobile 8.65 is launched. How can this be resolved.
The script that I am using is that of badbob001, with small mod:
If (ProcExists("jbed.exe"))
Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe", "-run s0_")
sleepmessage(3, "Please Wait...")
Else
Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe", "-run s0_")
sleepmessage(6, "Please Wait...")
EndIf
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(100)
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(100)
SendEnd
SendHome( "",0,1 )
Sleep(100)
url = substr(url,2)
SetClipText(url)
SendCtrlKey( "V" )
Sleep(100)
SendLeftSoft
I have tried with the original one as well .... same results.
Ok, I got rid of s0_ error. After trying 0-10, I decided to delete the string all together and it launches now without any error. So the line now looks like:
newer --> Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe")
older --> Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe", "-run s1_")
So, why then we need this s0_ string anyway !!!
But then again, if Opera Mini is not running, after clicking on the link in e-mail, the midlet manager is launced and OM fired, and then no URL input happens. If OM is already running, then all is fine. And still haven't found how to resolve URL linking with Spb Insight application.
BTW, for my Artemis @260Mhz, sleep strings of "If= 2 and Else=4" seconds is perfect.
And, of course, the above-explained way of copying URL’s to Opera Mini doesn’t work with touchscreen-less MS Smartphone (in the new terminology, Windows Mobile 6 Standard) models. Not even with external Copy/Paste tools like VITO’s excellent, free CopyPaste.
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Well, it works for me. If I recieve link in email I just click Reply to be able to select and copy the link. Open Opera Mini and paste the link (using Vito CopyPaste). The copy & paste works in intent Midlet Manager (v10.1.7.559) fine.
EazyVG said:
Ok, I got rid of s0_ error. After trying 0-10, I decided to delete the string all together and it launches now without any error. So the line now looks like:
newer --> Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe")
older --> Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe", "-run s1_")
So, why then we need this s0_ string anyway !!!
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That is strange that just by running jbed.exe, opera mini is launched automatically or am I not understanding you?
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But then again, if Opera Mini is not running, after clicking on the link in e-mail, the midlet manager is launced and OM fired, and then no URL input happens. If OM is already running, then all is fine.
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Perhaps opera mini is taking longer than your script expects. In the original script with sleep(6000), it expects opera to run in 6 seconds. On my device, that is too short and I had to increase it to sleep(8000) or sleep(8500). Just launch opera and count how long it takes to get a rough idea.
Yes, you are right. I have deleted the string mentioning s0_ all together, and it does work without it. So, what you think.
Basically, here is what I tried:
Code:
If (ProcExists("jbed.exe"))
Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe")
sleepmessage(2, "Please Wait...")
Else
Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe")
sleepmessage(10, "Please Wait...")
EndIf
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(100)
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(100)
SendEnd
SendHome( "",0,1 )
Sleep(100)
url = substr(url,2)
SetClipText(url)
SendCtrlKey( "V" )
Sleep(100)
SendLeftSoft
What it does with that 10 seconds command is that, it launches Jbed, waits 10 seconds at the menu option (where there is a list of Midelets installed, in my case for now only Opera), and then only launches OM, and again there is no auto address input. So increasing seconds doesn;t give me anything. What can be the problem?
And what about handling of links in apps such as Spb Insight ... I haven't tried clicking links in any other 3rd party app, but perhaps the result will be same, i.e. not launching the OM but going straight to PocketIE.
MOVED our discussion .... as this one is for Smartphones. The link to your other General post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1707520#post1707520
I have problems with the url parameter on WM5 Smartphone.
If I have in the registry entry like this:
"\Storage Card\Program Files\MortScript\MortScript.exe" "\Storage Card\Program Files\MortScript\OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr" url="%1"
It says "There is no application associated with http://something.com. Run the applicaition first and open this file inside the application."
"\Storage Card\Program Files\MortScript\MortScript.exe" "\Storage Card\Program Files\MortScript\OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr"
This runs the script fine (except the address of course).
"\Storage Card\Program Files\MortScript\MortScript.exe" "\Storage Card\Program Files\MortScript\OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr" url=
This launches the script as well but it dosnt paste the url. I have moddified the script for my intent Midlet Manager but I still have "SetClipText(url)" and "SendCtrlKey( "V" )".
Any help?
I'm confused.
Here you say it worked...
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Yes, you are right. I have deleted the string mentioning s0_ all together, and it does work without it. So, what you think.
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But here you say a list of midlets comes up.
EazyVG said:
What it does with that 10 seconds command is that, it launches Jbed, waits 10 seconds at the menu option (where there is a list of Midelets installed, in my case for now only Opera), and then only launches OM, and again there is no auto address input. So increasing seconds doesn;t give me anything. What can be the problem?
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If you see a list of midlets come up, IT DID NOT WORK. The point of all this "-run s?_" business to so that the midlet list is bypassed and the midlet is run directly. If you can't get this direct launch method to work, then you will need to modify the script to press enter at the midlist list to launch opera for you. You may think the script is working because a command in script 'accidentally' launches om for you but the script expects om to be already started.
You should study this page:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
EazyVG said:
And what about handling of links in apps such as Spb Insight ... I haven't tried clicking links in any other 3rd party app, but perhaps the result will be same, i.e. not launching the OM but going straight to PocketIE.
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It is possible that applications ignore the system settings and launch links by invoking pocket ie. Did you even run a windows application and click on a link in help > about and internet explorer opens instead of your default browser like firefox. That application, instead of passing the url to the os to take care of, is running 'iexplore <url>'.
But here you say a list of midlets comes up.
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Well, what I meant is where the list of midlets is showed, in my case, for now there is only Opera Mini, otherwise I am also gonna have few games, apps and Gmail.
It is possible that applications ignore the system settings and launch links by invoking pocket ie. Did you even run a windows application and click on a link in help > about and internet explorer opens instead of your default browser like firefox. That application, instead of passing the url to the os to take care of, is running 'iexplore <url>'.
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Of course I tried, such as with links embedded in e-mails. So as I undersstand, not all apps follow what is known as Global Rules.
then you will need to modify the script to press enter
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Can you please tell me how this script should look like, kinda never don this before on my own.
BTW, it does bypass the midlet list section, only when OM is already running in the background. I'll check the link you have given me ... hope it will shed some light.
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BTW, it does bypass the midlet list section, only when OM is already running in the background.
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It bypasses the midlet list because you already have a java application running. You can't go back to the midlet list until you quit the existing midlet application because you can only have one midlet running at a time. You'll just need to read the reference web pages to figure out what s?_ value to use to invoke om directly. If you already have other midlets installed, then you must have invoked another installed midlet by chance. If you had tried s0_ up to say s20_ (don't know how many midlets had you installed), then perhaps you jvm doesn't support direct run.
Is it possible that you have jbed installed on both the storage card and main memory and somehow it's looking for your midlets in the wrong storage location? Just a guess since I've just learned enough just to get om working and I don't have jbed on a storage card. According to the link, you should look in \windows\appdb and find the .jar for opera. Each midlet application should have a jar named s?_suite.jar where ? is a number. Once you know the value of ?, then you know what to put in your script. If you have your jars on the storage card instead, then you will need to research if you need to change anything to get direct launching working.
So for now, your problem is getting a midlet to directly run and has yet to even involve the link-copy-paste idea of the original post.
So far I have tried s0 to s10, and had maximum, prior to deleting the rest apart from OM, somewhere abound 6. I guess this has to do something with my Jbed being present in ROM (as it came with coocked ROM and I can't delete it) and one on storage, but am quite sure that the one from storage card is being run, as per registry inputs. I'll try to leave one just on main memory and reinstall the OM.
But still, the main question for me remains the one with 3rt party apps and embedded links in them, such as Spb Insight, which I use on daily basis. I hope soon one or the other solution will be found. Perhaps some tweak to be done in the registry itself for Spb and other apps to launch the Jbed/OM combo!
Tnx for the tip.
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So far I have tried s0 to s10, and had maximum, prior to deleting the rest apart from OM, somewhere abound 6. I guess this has to do something with my Jbed being present in ROM (as it came with coocked ROM and I can't delete it) and one on storage, but am quite sure that the one from storage card is being run, as per registry inputs. I'll try to leave one just on main memory and reinstall the OM.
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Did you look in the \Windows\appdb\ folder? Opera for me is installed as s0_suite.jar and has a size of 97.7KB (100,056 bytes). I had also applied a hack to the selector.utf file so that I'm not prompted for permission when opera wants to access the network. Do you get a prompt when opera starts? That *may* be related.
EazyVG said:
But still, the main question for me remains the one with 3rt party apps and embedded links in them, such as Spb Insight, which I use on daily basis. I hope soon one or the other solution will be found. Perhaps some tweak to be done in the registry itself for Spb and other apps to launch the Jbed/OM combo!
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This may be answered here, starting at post #24.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1283853&page=2
It looks like even on wm6, some applications still use the wm5 registry settings so you may need to apply the registry changes for both wm5 and wm6.
UPDATE (12/04/2007): Major WM6-related updates have taken place in the meantime.
In the meantime, my blog reader badbob001 has refined the script. Now, if you click a link, you’ll be presented a choice list, where you can select whether to pass the given URL to Internet Explorer Mobile, Opera Mini, just copy to the clipboard or just cancel the operation. This will help you in selecting the right browser if you (still) plan to use IEM (or other native Web browsers like Opera Mobile, Netfront or Minimo).
Cool, eh?
Remember that you don’t need to deploy this script if you don’t need this kind of functionality but always want to be redirected right to Opera Mini. Therefore, I’ve also included the older version of this script in the ZIP file. It’s in the NoBrowserSelectionDialog subfolder. Note that this script has also been updated a bit: it checks for Jbed already running; if it is, then, it doesn’t wait that much. Again, thanks for badbob001 for refining and performance-tuning my initial script.
Note that the usual stuff applies: if the script doesn’t invoke Opera Mini but invokes something else, edit both occurrences of s0 and appropriately change 0 to a greater number.
Finally, note that, these updates & bugfixs being all WM6-related, I haven't edited the old, WM5-related, working MortScript file. If you need some speedup and/or dynamic, runtime selection of the browser you'd like to use, you'll want to copy either of the two new MortScript files - it'll work.
2. Upon HowardForums forum member volwrath’s bug report, I’ve enhanced the Registry import file to support invoking Opera Mini from all applications, not only Messaging and Notes. I wouldn't have thought WM6 is so half-baked (that is, half of the apps still depend on the pre-WM6 (that is, the HKCR/http/Open/Command) way of invocation). That is, the WM6 Registry import script has also been enhanced (basically, I've just added the contents of the old WM5-related Registry import file to it), not only the MortScript file.
Note that reading local files will still default to the system-level browser as I haven’t redefined the default application for opening .htm(l) files. That is, by default, Internet Explorer Mobile will open these.
Again and again, it can’t be stressed enough how much these hacks enhance the usability of Opera Mini under Windows Mobile! I really recommend giving Opera Mini a try – you certainly won’t regret it!
Thanks Menneisyys and badbob001 ..... you the king of the hill.
On my HTC P3300 running WM6, Claudyfs Jbed 1.2, now all is working exceptionally well. Now with the updated script and reg tweak even the links embedded in 3rd party apps (such as the one I mentioned, Spb Insight) the OM get's launched and the browser shows the web site without any delays. The only thing I changed was the Sleep string from 6 to 4.
I can't thank you guys enough ... definitely MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH
UPDATE (12/12/2007): upon the problem reports of several Smartphone users (see the posts for example HERE), I’ve released a slightly modified version of the script that, instead of pasting, uses keyboard emulation. This makes it possible to use the script on some Smartphones that are incompatible with pasting.
The script is available HERE. Remember to remove the SP.2 extension before deploying it. Note that, again, it's ONLY meant for Smartphone users that previous script versions didn't work with!!!
Note that while it works on for example the I3 Beta of WM6 of the Samsung BJ, it doesn’t do the same on the (original) WM5 version of the same device or the HTC Vox (s710). It seems it’s impossible to support these devices with the current MortScript version. I'll also try to reimplement the script in nScriptm (another, less widely used scripting language / interpreter) - hope it is able to paste / send characters to these, still incompatible MS Smartphone models.
UPDATE (12/13/2007): I’ve also made available the Registry import file you’ll need to use when reverting to the original, Internet Explorer-only associations. It’s HERE.
UPDATE (12/15/2007): XDA-Devs forum member shlomki has just released the different hacks in CAB format so that they’re very easy to install. They’re available HERE. Comments are welcome. (Note that, due to lack of time, I haven’t checked them.)
Note that the execution has taken on a whole new life with new people continuing the development. As there’re new versions arriving almost every day, I can’t keep up with editing the thread starter posts to reflect the latest state of the development. Therefore, you will want to
1. start with the last posts in this thread, particularly looking for my, JZ SmartMort’s and badbob001's posts and announcements.
2. go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382043 for JZ SmartMort’s similarly named, excellent app.
3. badbob's thread is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384271 - you'll want to visit it too
The original, now-outdated article follows:
You, hopefully, already know Opera Mini 4, which, currently, I recommend the most for all Windows Mobile users as the primary browser. It’s especially useful if you are on either a slow (say, GPRS) or expensive (non-flat rate) data plan and/or you also use Opera on the desktop and, therefore, can make use of the excellent, remote (!) favorite synchronization offered by Opera Link.
So far, it was impossible to quickly invoke Opera Mini from any mailer applications by just clicking / activating Web links in them. This was a major stumbling block for many, which is quite understandable. Yes, it’s a major pain in the back to having to rely on Internet Explorer (Opera Mobile, Netfront etc.) for displaying the given Web page - instead of the much faster / cheaper / prettier Opera Mini.
Of course, Pocket PC (using the new terminology, Windows Mobile 6 Professional / Classic) users have always had an escape route. They still could highlight the link and, then, copy it to the clipboard. After that, they could still invoke Opera Mini, go to Menu / Enter Address and paste the URL there. (Assuming, of course, they use a copy/paste-capable MIDlet Manager. The outdated and, unless you have specific needs or an old operating system, in no way recommended TAO isn’t one of them; the recommended Jbed is.) An example of highlighting a link and copying to the clipboard is depicted in the following screenshot:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This, however, resulted in multiple screen taps and has never been so simple as just clicking a link in the mail body and let the system invoke the browser and pass the link to it.
And, of course, the above-explained way of copying URL’s to Opera Mini doesn’t work with touchscreen-less MS Smartphone (in the new terminology, Windows Mobile 6 Standard) models. Not even with external Copy/Paste tools like VITO’s excellent, free CopyPaste.
Because of the acuteness of the problem, I’ve thought very hard on solving the problem and making Opera Mini (OM for short) a browser that doesn’t suffer from this problem. And, during a lengthy swimming & sauna session, it occurred to me how it can be solved. Yeah, it’s mostly during swimming that I get the best, most revolutionary ideas
First, the pros and the cons so that you can see what you can expect of my solution.
Pros
Fully Seamless integration into Messaging (or any other mailer app), Notes, Word Mobile, PDF readers, MobiPocket (or any other text processing / viewing app) etc under ALL Windows Mobile / Pocket PC operating systems before Windows Mobile 6, on both the Pocket PC and Smartphone platforms
While it’s not compatible with WM6 Smartphones (WM6 Standard devices), on WM6 Pocket PC’s, you can still pretty easily invoke OM and pass the given URL to it.
It’s free and pretty easy to set up
Cons
It isn’t compatible with WM6 Smartphones like the HTC Vox (s710) or the HTC Wings (s730). Sorry.
With WM6 Pocket PC’s (unlike previous OS version), some additional manual work is needed, compared to the pre-WM6 cases. That is, just clicking the link won’t suffice.
It will NOT work on local HTM(L) files on your device – that is, not external links. That is, you won’t be able to render a local HTML file if you click it from File Explorer. However, as it’s mostly remote links that you’ll want to view, not local files, this isn’t that big a problem.
Again, let’s emphasize it again:
with WM6 PPC’s (unlike with pre-WM6 ones), you must copy the URL to the clipboard and only after this click the link!
It does NOT work with touchscreen-less WM6 Smartphones (WM6 Standard devices)! That’s because of the operating system’s inability for any kind of copy/paste operation.
Installation, usage
download and install MortScript if you haven’t already done so. Make sure you install it in the main memory (unless you’re ready to modify the scripts I’ve provided).
download THIS file
depending on your operating system version, go to either the WM5 or WM6 directory of the ZIP file downloaded in the previous step. Note that if you’re still using a pre-WM5 operating system, you’ll need the WM5 version.
transfer OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr to \Program Files\MortScript on your device
import the registry file into the Registry (WM5: OMInvokeAndPaste.reg; WM6: OMWM6DefBrowser.reg). if you do this on a MS Smartphone, make sure it is application unlocked. I’ve published several articles on (the absolutely legal) app unlock; see for example THIS
If you absolutely don’t know how the Registry import file needs to be imported, do either of the following:
either get (and, even better, purchase - they DO deserve it as it’s a REALLY excellent app) SOTI’s Pocket Controller. Install it, connect to your device, click the Registry icon. Then, select Edit / Import in the new remote Registry Editor window. Search for the registry file and import it.
or, get Resco Explorer. Install it on your mobile device; make sure you don’t disable the Registry editor install. Start the latter and, then, just exit it – this makes sure .REG files become associated with the Registry editor. Now, after you’ve transferred the REG file to your handset, just click it from inside File Explorer. Voila: it gets imported into the local Registry.
That’s all – from now on, clicking links in mails, documents etc. should fire up OM and pass the URL.
How you can (and when you must) modify OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr ?
The majority of the application logic is, in both the WM5 and WM6 versions, in OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr. Therefore, you’ll need to modify it in the following cases:
first, the most important instruction you’ll need to modify is the second row Run("\Windows\jbed.exe", "-run sX_"), where X is either 0 or 1 (I’ve set it to 0 in the WM5 and to 1 in the WM6 script).
As is explained in my earlier Opera Mini & Jbed-tutorial and posts (see for example THIS) , along with other people (see for example THIS), X stands for as how manieth OM was deployed under Jbed.
also note that, if you have to use a pre-WM5 operating system, it’s here that you need to define your TAO / IMB J9 links. Please consult the related section in the MIDlet Bible for more info on how these links need to be created.
Just remember the following: the Run() function requires two parameters, both enclosed in “’s. First is the executable; the second is the passed parameters. The latter string, of course, can (and with both IBM J9 and TAO, will) consist of several parameters.
the script is geared towards Opera Mini 4 users. Under Opera Mini 3 (or previous versions), the initial two SendLeftSoft calls will NOT result in the “Enter address” dialog coming up. With Opera Mini 3, therefore, you will need to change the second SendLeftSoft to SendCR as follows:
#SetClipText(url)
Run("\Windows\jbed.exe", "-run s0_")
Sleep(6000)
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(400)
SendCR
Note that the above code snippet has SetClipText(url) commented out (note the # at the beginning of the row). This is only needed under WM6; under previous operating systems, you MUST NOT comment it out.
finally, you can fine-tune the parameters of Sleep() in the code so that OM is still reliably invoked. With the code above, for example, I let MortScript wait for 6 seconds (6000 milliseconds) before starting to emulating left softkey presses.
Quick explanation for the different behavior under WM6 (only for geeks / hackers / programmers!)
Under WM6, invoking the default Web browser isn’t any more done the same way as under previous operating systems. There, the contents of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ Shell\Rai\ : DEFBROWSER\1 tell the system what to invoke. Here, unfortunately, it’s impossible to define additional command-line parameters. Parameters DO get passed (in the background), but you can’t name them. MortScript, however, relies on the latter – that is, named parameters referable under their name, NOT their index.
Under pre-WM6 operating systems, it was easy to name the parameters you passed to programs as can clearly be seen in the WM5-specific Registry import file, which just overwrites the old value of HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ http\Shell\Open\ Command:
@="\"\\Program Files\\MortScript\\MortScript.exe\" \"\\Program Files\\MortScript\\OMInvokeAndPasteScript.mscr\" url=\"%1\""
Here, I’ve named the parameter “url”. This is why the first row in the MortScript file is as follows:
SetClipText(url)
This just instructs MortScript to copy the contents of the “var” variable (which, now, comes from the “outside” of the script) to the clipboard so that, later, it can be pasted back to the URL input field.
Feel free to quickly scrutinize the two, WM6- and pre-WM6-specific Registry import files so that you can see this for yourself.
Currently, I don’t know a way of naming parameters under WM6. Of course, when I come up with a solution, I let you all know.
Awesome.
Thanks for this breakthrough.
I shall test it tonight when I get home and report back my success.
UPDATE (11/29/2007): thanks to badbob001 on my blog, now, as opposed to the initial case, WM6 devices (both Pocket PC's and Smartphones) are FULLY supported!!!!!!!
This all means there is no longer a difference between how WM6 and pre-WM6 operating systems behave. You only need to make sure to get the right .MSCR and Registry import files from the already-updated ZIP file, depending on your operating system version. That is, for WM6, get the files from the WM6 subdirectory, for pre-WM6 operating systems, from the WM5 one. And, of course, modify the scripts if Opera Mini isn't deployed as the first app under Jbed, the, by default, supported (and highly recommended) MIDlet manager.
Again: Under WM6, manual link copying to the clipboard is no longer needed and, again, it works 100% on WM6 Smartphones as well!
(note that now that WM6 is fully supported, I haven’t edited the original article; its WM6-related parts are now outdated. Again, WM6 is fully supported now and there's no difference between the usability on pre-WM6 and the WM6 platforms any more.)
Moved to this post, as I noticed that one is for Smartphones, while I am on WM6 Pro.
So as I was saying:
Yes, you are right. I have deleted the string mentioning s0_ all together, and it does work without it. So, what you think.
Basically, here is what I tried:
Code:
If (ProcExists("jbed.exe"))
Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe")
sleepmessage(2, "Please Wait...")
Else
Run("\Storage Card\Program Files\Jbed\jbed.exe")
sleepmessage(10, "Please Wait...")
EndIf
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(100)
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(100)
SendEnd
SendHome( "",0,1 )
Sleep(100)
url = substr(url,2)
SetClipText(url)
SendCtrlKey( "V" )
Sleep(100)
SendLeftSoft
What it does with that 10 seconds command is that, it launches Jbed, waits 10 seconds at the menu option (where there is a list of Midelets installed, in my case for now only Opera), and then only launches OM, and again there is no auto address input. So increasing seconds doesn;t give me anything. What can be the problem?
And what about handling of links in apps such as Spb Insight ... I haven't tried clicking links in any other 3rd party app, but perhaps the result will be same, i.e. not launching the OM but going straight to PocketIE.
UPDATE (12/04/2007): Major WM6-related updates have taken place in the meantime.
In the meantime, my blog reader badbob001 has refined the script. Now, if you click a link, you’ll be presented a choice list, where you can select whether to pass the given URL to Internet Explorer Mobile, Opera Mini, just copy to the clipboard or just cancel the operation. This will help you in selecting the right browser if you (still) plan to use IEM (or other native Web browsers like Opera Mobile, Netfront or Minimo).
Cool, eh?
Remember that you don’t need to deploy this script if you don’t need this kind of functionality but always want to be redirected right to Opera Mini. Therefore, I’ve also included the older version of this script in the ZIP file. It’s in the NoBrowserSelectionDialog subfolder. Note that this script has also been updated a bit: it checks for Jbed already running; if it is, then, it doesn’t wait that much. Again, thanks for badbob001 for refining and performance-tuning my initial script.
Note that the usual stuff applies: if the script doesn’t invoke Opera Mini but invokes something else, edit both occurrences of s0 and appropriately change 0 to a greater number.
Finally, note that, these updates & bugfixs being all WM6-related, I haven't edited the old, WM5-related, working MortScript file. If you need some speedup and/or dynamic, runtime selection of the browser you'd like to use, you'll want to copy either of the two new MortScript files - it'll work.
2. Upon HowardForums forum member volwrath’s bug report, I’ve enhanced the Registry import file to support invoking Opera Mini from all applications, not only Messaging and Notes. I wouldn't have thought WM6 is so half-baked (that is, half of the apps still depend on the pre-WM6 (that is, the HKCR/http/Open/Command) way of invocation). That is, the WM6 Registry import script has also been enhanced (basically, I've just added the contents of the old WM5-related Registry import file to it), not only the MortScript file.
Note that reading local files will still default to the system-level browser as I haven’t redefined the default application for opening .htm(l) files. That is, by default, Internet Explorer Mobile will open these.
Again and again, it can’t be stressed enough how much these hacks enhance the usability of Opera Mini under Windows Mobile! I really recommend giving Opera Mini a try – you certainly won’t regret it!
Gr8 ... tnx to all mind tanks and coders .... great, simply great. Hope with this, and my mobile, HTC P3300, being hard reseted, and OM being the first JApplet installed on main memory I will have no further probs
BTW, just wanted to know. Once I have .reg file registered in registry, and suppose I want to return back to factory settings, what will be the simplest procedure.
EazyVG said:
Gr8 ... tnx to all mind tanks and coders .... great, simply great. Hope with this, and my mobile, HTC P3300, being hard reseted, and OM being the first JApplet installed on main memory I will have no further probs
BTW, just wanted to know. Once I have .reg file registered in registry, and suppose I want to return back to factory settings, what will be the simplest procedure.
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Just export the two reg keys as they were BEFORE your importing the regifile.
Should you no longer have them, let me know and I create it for you when I have some time.
Gr8 Breakthrough
Thanks Menneisyys and badbob001 ..... you the king of the hill.
On my HTC P3300 running WM6, Claudyfs Jbed 1.2, now all is working exceptionally well. Now with the updated script and reg tweak even the links embedded in 3rd party apps (such as the one I mentioned, Spb Insight) the OM get's launched and the browser shows the web site without any delays. The only thing I changed was the Sleep string from 6 to 4.
I can't thank you guys enough ... definitely MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH
Please Help!
I have done everything as mentioned. It comes up with the options - I select OM - It loads OM - that's it!
Nothing loads but when I go to Pocket Word and paste the info, it is in the clipboard.
What do I need to do to get the info from the clipboard into OM?
Otherwise, great app!
cbus said:
I have done everything as mentioned. It comes up with the options - I select OM - It loads OM - that's it!
Nothing loads but when I go to Pocket Word and paste the info, it is in the clipboard.
What do I need to do to get the info from the clipboard into OM?
Otherwise, great app!
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Also - If I have OM running then click on link, it opens up ie and exits OM and IE?????
Any thoughts?
Ok - I read thru the middle of your info. I am running wm6 pro on sprint touch.
I put the # in front of setcliptext(url)
and put in SendCR instead of the second SendLeftSoft
What happens is I get OM to load and it opens a url but it is not the url I selected. It is from a previous clipboard item. I will continue to play with it.
any thoughts would be appreciated!
Update!
Ok - Got it working!
For those of you having similar issues, here is what I did.
I am running OM 4.0.9751
I took the # symbol off the front and that fixed the clipboard issue.
I did however leave the second SendCr and that did the trick.
So it looks like this:
SendLeftSoft
Sleep100
SendCR
Sleep100
I was under the impression that with OM 4.0 that I didn't need the sendcr command.
Please let me know if this is correct?
Still Exiting
So everything works fine - the only problem is that if OM is running in background, then it will go to OM then to IE then it says in ie "shut down Opera Mini?" Then it shuts down.
Any ideas?
made a fix for the exiting problem
I changed the mortscript to the following and that fixed the exiting issue however I am sure there is an easier way.
if (substr(url,1,1) eq " ")
url = substr(url,2)
EndIf
list[1] = "Open in Opera Mini"
list[2] = "Open in Pocket IE"
list[3] = "Copy to clipboard"
list[4] = "Cancel"
Choice("With this link...", url, list)
Case(1)
Call OpenOM
Case(2)
Run("\Windows\iexplore.exe", url)
Case(3)
SetClipText(url)
Case(0,4)
Exit
EndChoice
Sub OpenOM
If (ProcExists("jbed.exe"))
Run("\Windows\jbed.exe", "-run s2_")
sleep(2000)
SendRightSoft
sleep(2000)
Else
Run("\Windows\jbed.exe", "-run s2_")
sleep(6000)
EndIf
SendLeftSoft
Sleep(100)
SendCR
Sleep(100)
SetClipText(url)
SendEnd
SendHome("",0,1 )
Sleep(100)
SendCtrlKey("V")
Sleep(100)
SendLeftSoft
EndSub
Hope this helps!
Please let me know if there is an easier way.
UPDATE (12/12/2007): upon the problem reports of several Smartphone users (see the posts for example HERE), I’ve released a slightly modified version of the script that, instead of pasting, uses keyboard emulation. This makes it possible to use the script on some Smartphones that are incompatible with pasting.
The script is available HERE. Remember to remove the SP.2 extension before deploying it. Note that, again, it's ONLY meant for Smartphone users that previous script versions didn't work with!!!
Note that while it works on for example the I3 Beta of WM6 of the Samsung BJ, it doesn’t do the same on the (original) WM5 version of the same device or the HTC Vox (s710). It seems it’s impossible to support these devices with the current MortScript version. I'll also try to reimplement the script in nScriptm (another, less widely used scripting language / interpreter) - hope it is able to paste / send characters to these, still incompatible MS Smartphone models.
CABs Ready!!!
I made 3 cabs for easy installation of this hack.
What it does:1. Installs MortScript (Default to Internal Memory, because of links and shortcuts)
2. Installs script to Windows dir and imports Reg values (to be independant of MortScript folder)
3. Creates a shortcut for OperaMini in the programs folder!
These CABs are for ARM processors and for Pocket PC only - not smartphones.
All you need to do is install.
Have fun.
P.S: I need a confirmation that the WM5 cab works.
shlomki said:
I made 3 cabs for easy installation of this hack.
What it does:1. Installs MortScript (Default to Internal Memory, because of links and shortcuts)
2. Installs script to Windows dir and imports Reg values (to be independant of MortScript folder)
3. Creates a shortcut for OperaMini in the programs folder!
These CABs are for ARM processors and for Pocket PC only - not smartphones.
All you need to do is install.
Have fun.
P.S: I need a confirmation that the WM5 cab works.
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You're great; I'll frontpage this!
UPDATE (12/15/2007): XDA-Devs forum member shlomki has just released the different hacks in CAB format so that they’re very easy to install. They’re available HERE. Comments are welcome. (Note that, due to lack of time, I haven’t checked them.)
Awesome - tested the WM6 without Selection Dialog and it works like a charm! Thanks for this breakthrough indeed!!!
The new 4.1 beta of Opera Mini has just been released with TONS of new features. Get it at http://www.operamini.com/beta/ . Features include:
* Download and upload files directly in Opera Mini (wowz! UPLOAD!)
* Save pages for offline browsing (another WOWZ!)
* Autocompletion when entering addresses directly
* Find in page (WOOOOOOWZ!)
* Increased server speed during the last months
* Signed versions of Opera Mini (good news too)
Don't forget to download the latest, 3.1 version of Jbed (reviewed & linked to HERE at the bottom.)
(BTW, some of you have asked what I've been working on because I've been quite quiet. I'm
working on my Digital TV Bible, after having read dozens of related books and tons of online documents (I'll post a detailed review of them too)
I need to do some real work too
I'll make another W3C conference speech this month (on multiplatform mobile browsers) and need to update my related Windows Mobile / Symbian / BlackBerry stuff
All in all, I've been pretty busy
Opera Mini 4.1: FULL multiplatform tutorial & review
I don’t need to introduce Opera Mini for any serious mobile device user – it’s been one of the best browsers ever since the release of version 4.0 with all its goodies like favorite synchronization and full layout mode, the latter being excellent on (W)VGA Pocket PC’s and high-resolution Symbian devices like the Nokia E90. Note that I’ve written a review & full comparison to other browsers HERE – please DO read it if you don’t know what Opera Mini is or how it compares to other browsers, in which cases you might want to prefer it to native, fully-fledged browsers like Opera Mobile. Also, make sure you read my two Web Browsing Bibles, linked from the OM4 article, for additional info & comparisons. Finally, note that the linked article only discusses version 4.0; 4.1 is even better and more featureful.
The just-released 4.1 beta takes things even further and implements a lot of long asked-for functionalities. It’s REALLY worth upgrading; note that it can coexist with older versions (including 4.0) on the same handset. That is, if you, for some reason, find it useless, you can easily switch back to the older version without having to reinstall / reconfigure anything.
1.1 Availability; which version to go for?
Navigate to http://mini.opera.com/beta either with your phone’s WAP browser or, if you have Opera on your desktop, with it:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41DownloadPage.png
(mobile browser)
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41DesktopOperaDL.png
(Opera on the desktop)
and select any of the upper three links. On the next screen,
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41Deploy1.png
just press the left softkey (Continue); then, unless you want to put it in a self-created category, just click OK while it’s on root:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41Deploy2.png
On the following dialog,
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41Deploy3.png
just press OK; do the same on the one that follows:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41Deploy4.png
The file will be compiled and you can start it right away by answering Yes on the final screen:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41Deploy6.png
After this, everything is done in the already-known way: accepting the license, pressing buttons for generating a pseudo-random sentence etc.
Note that the 4.1 beta page linked from operamini.com, http://www.operamini.com/beta/, doesn’t contain the signed versions, only the unsigned ones. Therefore, if you only have Mozilla Firefox or Internet Explorer on your desktop, make sure you download the file from inside your Web browser on your handheld. The only exception is BlackBerry, where there isn’t a separate version on the only-handheld or desktop Opera page; then, you can safely download the ZIP file from http://www.operamini.com/beta/ with any desktop browser and use the BB Desktop Manager to quickly install it on your BlackBerry.
If you have a Windows Mobile device with Jbed 3.1, any of the signed versions will do. Note that some people state you need to go for the all-certificate version; that’s not true with Jbed 3.1. Make sure you DO download a signed version and not the unsigned one so that you can easily (without any hacking) can get rid of the security prompts.
Note that, should you still not have Jbed 3.1, read the second section of THIS for more info & the download links.
1.2 What’s new?
1.2.1 Custom text input field
With the new URL input field, address autocompletion works just great:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41AddressAutocomplete.png
Note that
1, unlike with Opera Mobile 9.5 (and just like any other browser, including pre-9.5 versions of Opera Mobile), the titles of these pages aren’t displayed, only the URL’s
2, copy / paste doesn’t work. If you do need it (and you do have a compatible JVM – it’s only the non-recommended TAO that isn’t), you’ll need to switch to the regular, native JVM URL editor by pressing Delete (right softkey, shouldn’t you have a device with a built-in hardware back key like MS Smartphones) once and, then, go down to highlight "Insert Symbol":
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/om4insertsymblhighlight.png
Then, just press Action on it to get into the traditional URL input field, with the traditional menus.
3, textual input may be problematic on keyboards with combined numeric and alphabetical keys; for example, on the HTC Vox. In there, the numeric keys will always be considered as keypad numeric buttons; that is, they’ll input a for 1, d for button 2 etc. However, as they’re treated EXACTLY the same way as keypad buttons, you can still input any character or (with long-pressing) number with them. You’ll need to know the latter for numeric input with devices that have a separate numeric row (like the HTC Universal).
4, the Input Address field being new also results in the old system-level browser invocation script not working any more. To fix this,
either switch off the new direct input by just unticking the, by default, enabled "Direct address input" checkbox in Tools / Settings:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41disabledirinut.png
or, alternatively, go for a modification of the current script version available HERE. (Incidentally, note that, now, there’s a full C++ implementation of the invocation script HERE. It’s still not compatible with 4.1 unless you untick "Direct address input" as explained above.)
1.2.2 Signing
First in Opera Mini’s lifetime, it comes signed. What does this mean? When deployed under a capable, compatible JVM (for example, Jbed 3.1), it’ll, upon trying to access the Net / the local file system for saving pages / downloading / uploading files, it’ll prompt you for permission:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41PermissPrompt1.png
(reading the file system)
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41PermissPrompt1W.png
(writing the file system)
In there, you’ll notice a (compared to the unsigned case) new "always, don’t ask again" menu item (I’ve highlighted it in the following screenshot):
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41PermissPrompt2.png
Make sure you do select this before pressing OK. This will make sure you won’t ever need to answer this question any more.
Upon trying to saving pages, it even prompts you to switch to the signed version, should you still have a non-signed one:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41PromptForSignedVersion.png
The link indeed takes you to a tutorial:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41PromptForSignedVersion2.png
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41PromptForSignedVersion3.png
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41PromptForSignedVersion4.png
(as can clearly be seen, there is not a single word on Windows Mobile. Note that the tutorial is also directly available HERE)
1.2.3 Page Saving
The new page saving feature allows for saving the current page, along with all its resources (images), to a file. The file is in the native (condensed HTML in textual mode + JPEG images) format of Opera Mini currently not readable by other applications. Should you still need some of the contents for copy/paste operations, you can still directly copy from the file with a text viewer. This also means this also allows for some kind of rudimentary copy/paste functionality if you use an external file viewer like that of Resco File Explorer. Then, based on the (latest) timestamp of the saved page (the saved pages have cryptic filenames; however, you can easily recognize them based both of their timestamp in the file system and their header, which contains the title of the page), you view it and look for the info you wanted to copy to clipboard (and, from there, to, say, Notes or Word Mobile). As you can see, it’s in no way so easy than, say, copying and straightforward than copying the full / the visible textual contents of the page into a text input field, where a user could already highlight anything and copy to the clipboard (unless she uses TAO Intent), though. Hope the Opera coders also implement this, otherwise, very simple-to-code feature.
Note that the page saving target dialog is only displayed once (upon the first page saving attempt) and is pretty much far away from being pretty and/or intuitional (and, of course, it has missing functionality present in, say, the standard OS file save dialog like creating subdirectories) but it still does the job. Just select the directory you’d like to save your pages to. Again, remember this can’t be changed later so select a directory with sufficiently large free storage.
First, you’ll need to select the storage type you’d like to save your pages to. In the following screenshot, I’ve selected Storage Card:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41SaveTarget1.png
After pressing Action, you’ll be shown the directories in there. You can select any of them (and, then, iteratively, any of its subdirectories etc.). Just press Select (left softkey) on the directory you’d like to save your stuff in. For example, in the following screenshot, I’ve stayed on Storage Card when pressing the key; this means it’ll store the pages in the root of the card:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41SaveTarget2.png
(note that, as the storage card roots can only have up to 128 files, this isn’t the best thing to do unless you’re absolutely sure you only want to save some pages.)
Finally, you’ll be prompted a "Page saved." message:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41SaveTarget3.png
Get rid of it with the Action button.
After this, all the saved pages will be listed in Tools / Saved Pages (and the latest three on the startpage):
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41StartpageSavedPageList.png
A VGA screenshot with more than one saved page:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41ListOfSavedPages.png
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/OM41ListOfSavedPagesVGA.png
1.2.4 Finding text in pages
Tools / Find in page implements something I’ve been asking for years: in-page text search. It not only iterates over all the occurrences of the searched-for word (see the "Next" left softkey), but also conveniently highlights all the occurrences. In the following screenshot, you can see the results of searching for the word "Opera" in the Opera Mini forums:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/41FindInPagesOpera.png
1.2.5 In-app file up/download
A lot of users have been asking the Opera folks for allowing for in-browser download and, even more importantly, upload.
1.2.5.1 Download
In-browser downloading, for Windows Mobile users, isn’t that important. It’s probably mostly MS Smartphone users that will find this useful because, as has also been explained in my MS Smartphone Web Browsing Bible (see section 1.1.1 Fixing the binary file download problem), the built-in Internet Explorer Mobile only downloads certain types of files. For Symbian users with, say, a Nokia N95 with a pre-20 firmware version, it’s more so because Symbian often killed Opera Mini when loading up Nokia Web for handling the download. This isn’t an issue with the new firmware version any more, of course – neither is with N95 8GB, N95-3, N82 or the soon-to-come, new, DVB-H enabled N-series models.)
Note that, while file system access is supported in the latest and most recommended Jbed 3.1, this isn’t necessarily the case with other MIDlet Managers. Therefore, you’re strongly recommended to upgrade to Jbed 3.1.
The new in-Opera download looks like this:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/MP3Download1.png
If you select Save As, you’ll be presented the usual file selector; here, I instruct it to save the contents on the storage card:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/MP3Download2.png
Then, the download will start:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/MP3Download3.png
If, instead of Save As, you select Open:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/MP3Download4.png
you’ll be taken to IE:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/MP3Download5.png
which downloads the file:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/MP3Download6.png
Unfortunately, if you go for in-process download, you can’t do anything else during downloading – as is the case with regular page loading. That is, you end up staring at the download screen. If you absolutely hate this and/or the download takes too much time (for example, during fetching a looooooong MP3), go for downloading within Internet Explorer Mobile and switching back to Opera Mini for browsing. You can safely do this: IEM will just download the file in the background without problems. (Unless, of course, you haven’t registered the file type with the system. Then, you’ll need to stick strictly with the built-in downloader of OM4.1.)
1.2.5.2 Upload
With Jukka "Yucca" Korpela’s excellent article & tester suite File input (or "upload") in HTML forms:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/FileUpload2.png
Then, the usual Opera file handler will be shown (not that of the OS). Let’s upload some text file:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/FileUpload3.png
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/FileUpload4.png
and the results are as expected:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/042008OM41/FileUpload5.png
(note that it the (later?) 4.0 series it is rendered as can be seen in HERE but, of course, the "Choose" file chooser couldn’t be activated)
In this regard, Opera Mini (along with the commercial (!) Opera Mobile and [the, currently, severely crippled Technical Preview] NetFront) is the only browser to support file upload on the MS Smartphone platform. Let me point out that the built-in Internet Explorer Mobile (still) doesn’t support upload.
2. What’s still missing / problematic?
Now, in addition to direct copy/paste of textual contents, I only miss navigating (switching back) to any already-downloaded page while loading a new one. You can only navigate on the current page while fetching a new page but can’t use, say, #5 to quickly bring up the list of currently open pages and quickly switch to another page. There isn’t a "download page in background" feature either, which would be able for allowing this. This can be a nuisance, particularly on inherently sloooooooooow platforms like the current crop of BlackBerries.
Also, on Pocket PC devices with a built-in keyboard could benefit from some similar keyboard layout than on BlackBerries. On the latter, you can use the (wide and easy-to-reach) Space button to scroll a page down. I wish you could do the same on Windows Mobile devices. (In there, you still must use the "8" button, which is pretty much out of reach in two-hand, "bedtime" operation.)
The problem of "flashing", non-displayed pictures, particularly with pages heavily loaded with them, is still present.
Finally, the lack of italic support is (still) a big pain in the back. I don’t understand why the Opera folks don’t implement this (must be related to the additional storage the custom, smallest character set would require with added italic support, I don’t know – if that’s the problem, at least non-smallest characters should have this support) – after all, ALL major KVM’s do support rendering text in italics. (See my related tests in my MIDlet Bible.)
3. BlackBerry
The BlackBerry version doesn’t support signed versions; that is, as has already been pointed out, you MUST go with the unsigned one. I haven’t encountered any problems with it; page saving / loading, the new address autocomplete etc. all worked just great. I haven’t encountered the common bug with all OM 4.0 versions: that is, the BlackBerry (at least my T-Mo branded 8800) completely locking up upon loading pages. However, this doesn’t mean these bugs have been fixed: I "only" played with the new version on my BB for two or three hours and the aforementioned bug only turns up, say, once a day or two days, assuming actively using OM for at least 2-3 hours a day.
4. Symbian
I’ve also (quickly) tested the new (unsigned) version on my Nokia N95 v20. I haven’t really run into problems so far; neither have my fellow N95 users in the Opera Mini forum. I’ll later report on whether Opera Mini 4.1 still exhibits the well-known, but, fortunately, pretty rare problem of completely locking up the handset, which, as with the BlackBerry, can only be fixed by removing and reinserting the battery.
UPDATE (later the same day):
1. MoDaCo frontpage
2. note that the above-recommended Jbed 3.1 is NOT compatible with WM5 (or with even older operating system versions), only WM6. If you're still on WM5, use the old, "Cloudyfa" 2.1 version instead; or look around at XDA-Devs, where, according to THIS post, the 20080222 version of 3.1 is WM5-compatible.
i don't like the fact that opera mini is java.. which requires to launch java first before launching opera...that only makes the browser startup slower.. i can get to a website much faster with PIE because it launches faster.. sure it has a bunch of cool features but i guess im the only one that dislikes the fact that it's java emulated..
i'll wait for the REAL mobile opera version.
wow this new version of opera mini is great. i love the url input method. file download works great too. works perfectly on the kaiser. in fact im writting from it right now. go opera!
one thing-- the shortcuts method cooked up in the midlet bible doesnt work anymore. ill look into this at a later date. could be as simple as removing the old opera mini.
tft said:
i don't like the fact that opera mini is java.. which requires to launch java first before launching opera...that only makes the browser startup slower.. i can get to a website much faster with PIE because it launches faster.. sure it has a bunch of cool features but i guess im the only one that dislikes the fact that it's java emulated..
i'll wait for the REAL mobile opera version.
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Read my 4.0 review - there, I've elaborated on crating shortcuts to OM so that you can avoid having to start up Jbed first.
UPDATE (04/05/2008):
1. I’ve tested the above (in the previous update) mentioned Jbed Java 3.1 20080222 (available HERE; mirrored HERE for your convenience). It runs flawlessly under WM5 (not only WM6). It supports 3D (tested with Need for speed carbon and Night Fever; neither of them run under the non-3D-capable Cloudyfa 2.1), (as usual, excellent) sound. It can’t be directly installed onto a storage card, however. (As with some older versions, it’s possible it can be hacked there, though, with some manual file copying and registry / start menu link rewriting – I haven’t tested this.)
I’ve also thoroughly tested JBed_20071119.3.1_3dMod_HeapSizeFix_v2_wm6(lovetz1) linked from THIS MoDaCo thread. As a plus, it can be directly installed on a storage card, as opposed to the version above. It, however, doesn’t support sound at all. Otherwise, it seems it’s pretty much the same as the version above – except for WM5-compliance: I haven’t tested the WM5-compliant subversion. I’d stick with the 20080222 (the first) version unless you really need every single byte in your built-in storage.
Note that neither version was able to run the s60v3 (Nokia) version of Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, the latest-and-greatest real-time strategy from EA Mobile – upon loading the mission (and displaying the progress bar), it just locks up. (Needless to say, it’s working flawlessly on the Nokia N95 v20). It seems no Jbed version is compatible with this excellent game.
2. XDA-Devs user JZ SmartMort has released a very promising title making Opera Mini the system-level browser much simpler and offering a LOT of additional functionality. See his thread HERE. Note that he also posted a somewhat shorter post HERE (in THIS thread, should you also want to read the possible, future discussion of his app).
I've installed 4.1 and it looks great, However, a few points are anoying me.
When I start Opera and I type a new adres, the foll msg apear
"Untrusted application Opera Mini 4.1 wants to send or receive information from.... This will use airtime. Do you allow net access?"
Then the options to choose are:
o Yes, but ask me next time
o Yes, but ask me next session
There is no option: o Yes, dont ask me again ??
When I recall a saved page, I get the next msg "Untrusted application Opera Mini 4.1 wants to read data located on this device or removabl emedia. Do you allow read user data?
The only options are Yes or No. In the security option of Opera, there are settings about reading data. But there are only 2 options
o Ask
o Never allow
Also here, I miss the option: o Dont ask me again !
The next thing is the text input field. I have a HTC tytn (virtual and real keyboard). When I switch the option 'direct addres input' tot ON, I can only type the input via the real keyboard and not via the virtual keyboard (its dissapears).
If I can fix those items, I would be very happy.
I have reinstalled the same file and now the first 2 points are working fine !!
Leaves me to solve the text input field and the virtual keyboard...
UPDATE (04/06/2008): I have some very good news for you all.
1. Several of my readers have asked (see for example THIS) whether it’s possible to change the page save directory in Opera Mini 4.1 after you’ve set it first. Contrary to the popular belief (you must reinstall it from scratch), it’s actually very easy to do this:
a. if you have originally selected a removable storage card as the target media, you only need to remove it before trying to save any page on it. Then, you’ll be prompted an error message and, on the next page saving attempt, you’ll be offered the chance of setting the new save directory. That is, if you’ve originally given Opera Mini a storage card, you can change the save path without any need for hexediting files.
b. if you have provided it with a movable / deletable directory in the built-in storage (or, for that matter, on the storage card), just move (cut / paste) the entire directory somewhere else on your device – or on your storage card. That is, if you’ve given \My Documents to it, just cut it with the built-in File Explorer and paste it to in any other subdirectory. (Of course, you’ll need to paste the directory back once you’re ready with the – failed – page saving attempt if it’s a directory used by other apps too – like \My Documents.)
3, if, for some reason, neither of the above-listed ways works, you’ll need to do some hexediting. To do this, search for the in the name of the directory in the \Windows\appdb\s?__d?.db files with, say, Total Commander (Alt-F7) on the desktop Windows and just change this occurrence to another directory with a hexeditor. An example showing changing \My Documents to \Storage Card with a hexeditor:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Again, it’ll be FAR easier to temporarily remove / move the directory than hexediting – only do the latter if you simply can’t (temporarily) delete the directory because you’ve given it, say, \Windows or some other, undeletable directory.
2. the native C++ version of the invocation script has been updated to be compliant with 4.1. In addition, badbob001 has updated his MortScript to be compatible with 4.1 and he is also doing automatic (!!!) descriptor parsing & discovery to automatically find the current position of the OM deployment (just like the JZ SmartMort's brand new script I've reported on above), which, so far, needed to be done (once) by hand. See his updated script HERE. Both advancements are discussed HERE, starting with page 10 (post #91).
Menneisyys said:
2. the native C++ version of the invocation script has been updated to be compliant with 4.1. In addition, badbob001 has updated his MortScript to be compatible with 4.1 and he is also doing automatic (!!!) descriptor parsing & discovery to automatically find the current position of the OM deployment (just like the JZ SmartMort's brand new script I've reported on above), which, so far, needed to be done (once) by hand. See his updated script HERE. Both advancements are discussed HERE, starting with page 10 (post #91).
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I am not sure if I understand this correctly. Does this make mi device able to use the virtual keyboard, even if the direct adres input is selected or does it has nothing to do with it?
Quatz said:
I am not sure if I understand this correctly. Does this make mi device able to use the virtual keyboard, even if the direct adres input is selected or does it has nothing to do with it?
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You mean the SIP? You can always assign it to a HW button so that, upon a keypress, it's briught up. If this is what you meant.
Read my Button Bible for more info.
Menneisyys said:
You mean the SIP? You can always assign it to a HW button so that, upon a keypress, it's briught up. If this is what you meant.
Read my Button Bible for more info.
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Sorry, dont know the term SIP!
Where to find this Bible?
Quatz said:
Sorry, dont know the term SIP!
Where to find this Bible?
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A SIP is a software (on-screen) keyboard. SIP stands for 'Soft Input Panel'.
The Button Bible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337602
(Google search: "xda dev button bible".)
Thanks, this helps a lot.
I have installed HBsettup and indeed, now I can toggle the SIP on and off when i use Direct Address input.
I am very happy now with Opera Mini !!
having issues with setting up the shortcut to start OM
I have as follows:
"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
OM is the only midlet installed.
also there are NO .jar files in the /windows/appDB/ folder
thanks
EDIT:
did a quick reset and everthings working excellent
Hey thanks for the share. Its really good, I am waiting for the stable version.
Apart from the intense marketing campaign of the moderator posting this thread, can someone give a brief comparison between this Opera Mini and the other Opera ("Opera Mobile"?) that runs on WM5/WM6? I don't get why I would want to run a java, stripped down browser when I can run Opera Mobile. Is it that Mini is intended for phones that can't run the full version, or should Mini be considered as a replacement for the other Operas that run on PDA phones (touchscreen phone/PDAs that run WM5/6).
Ideally an impartial perspective that isn't 5 posts long would be great