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please help the newbie!!!!

I have a Qtek 9100 with wm5, when I start it up it reads:
Ipl 2.17.0001
Spl 2.17.0001
Gsm 02.07.10
Os 2.17.7.2
I would like to upgrade it to WM6 and maybe add some of the new features of the HTC touch. I love the wizard and refuse to give up the keyboard but would like to have some of the functionality of the touch. I can hack a pc just fine but have never messed around on a mobile before. I do not want to brick this thing. I have PHM registry editor installed on my wizard. I was hoping someone had a clear cut answer on how to upgrade my device to WM6 and install some cool apps along the way. I love reading the many posts on this great site, I have learned alot. If anyone can help out this newbie I would be forever grateful.

Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613

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Thanks for the reply, I have determined that I have G4 unlocked model. Now the next question that I have is do I need to upgrade my existing rom before installing a WM6 rom. If not do you have any suggestions on which WM6 rom to install?

Did you mean CID Unlocked G4? If you are not sure then look for shell tool and follow some others in G4 forum.

I checked and it is CID unlocked, so my next question is which WM6 rom should I use? Does anyone know if the new "touch" applications will work on a g4 model? I have searched through the G4 postings and I have not found anything on this.

My idea
jeep_man said:
I checked and it is CID unlocked, so my next question is which WM6 rom should I use? Does anyone know if the new "touch" applications will work on a g4 model? I have searched through the G4 postings and I have not found anything on this.
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I think NBD 7.4 is the best WM6 "touched" rom...
But I don't know if it's working on G4 wiz....
btw, look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311534
Ciao
Tommaso

G3 and G4 have nothing different apart from the boot chip. So it should work (I may be wrong but you can safely give a try).

jeep_man said:
I have a Qtek 9100 with wm5, when I start it up it reads:
Ipl 2.17.0001
Spl 2.17.0001
Gsm 02.07.10
Os 2.17.7.2
I would like to upgrade it to WM6 and maybe add some of the new features of the HTC touch. I love the wizard and refuse to give up the keyboard but would like to have some of the functionality of the touch. I can hack a pc just fine but have never messed around on a mobile before. I do not want to brick this thing. I have PHM registry editor installed on my wizard. I was hoping someone had a clear cut answer on how to upgrade my device to WM6 and install some cool apps along the way. I love reading the many posts on this great site, I have learned alot. If anyone can help out this newbie I would be forever grateful.
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Read the wiki

Don't remember who shared this, but I thought it would be appropriate here:
The members of this forum are advanced users, and they are expecting this from other members too. Thus if you don't want to lose your face in front of the other members, I suggest you try to solve your problems yourself first, and then search on this forum and even on the whole internet, and if then you still couldn't solve your problem, the link 'Post reply' or the link 'New thread' on this forum are there for you...So you will be sure that the problem you couldn't solve, isn't just something explained before and other members of this forum won't laugh at you...
The members with very high post count will not always be able to help you out in the best way...It is very easy to post hundreds of replies every day, but it's much harder to post so many useful replies! Sometimes you will see a thread becoming very long, thanks to some users willing to thank someone over hundreds of time. Of course, it is very polite to thank someone that helped you out, but you will see that all those thank you and other useless post are making it very hard for you and other members to find the posts that really will help you out of your little problem...So, an other suggestion for you is that you only post what really matters, that way, you will very soon be so popular in this forum and on any other forum that you might get famous by a lot of people and a lot of people might even remember you every time they are using their Pocket PC...wouldn't that be great??!
So, now you got a little introduction to this forum I'm sure you will find out your way and make it to the 'Search' button just on top of every page on this forum. Then, a new world will open for you, you will be able to find tons of information, more than ten or twenty thread are just on the subject what you where asking for and you will see that while you are searching, you will very soon get a little frustrated to find more than ten times exactly the same instructions to solve your problem. I am sure, very soon we will see some replies from you asking other members to just use that little search link before posting a question that was solved ten times before on this forum...
Have a nice day, we hope you will be able to help us out too if we got some problem that you might be able to solve!!

Best Rom so far

I bought att tilt today and want to know what's the best rom so far for it
Thanks

wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...

Doug2873 said:
wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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wow a little harsh huh? why the sour response?

Well, Doug is probably coming from some other forum where a new "Which is the best ROM?" kind of post is started each week. It is a natural question, but it gets old after a while.
In the Hermes thread for example, there are multiple kitchens for making ROMs, so everyone and his brother are putting out new ROMs constantly that suit their needs. Asking which is the best is kind of like asking which restaurant is best in San Francisco. There are good ones and bad ones, cheap ones and expensive ones, it is all a matter of taste.
At this point though, with three or so cooked ROMs out for the Kaiser, I think it might be a valid question. Most knowledgable people will have tried all three and come to some sort of conclusion.

Yeah really ! why would this piss anybody off ?

Doug2873 said:
wow someone should post a sticky for this thread making it an example of how to piss everyone in the forum off...
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o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum

hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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Really, a good way to find out what's best (for you) is to try them out. I know, everyone says that. But they say it for a reason.
A great place to find out before flashing is to hop into the individual threads for the specific ROMS and read what's included in each and what comments (good and bad) have been posted. There's only a few ROMs out at the moment, so that won't be hard at all.
Usually when anyone starts a thread like this they just want someone to throw out an easy "The best ROM is...". I am personally using the HTC stock at the moment. I like it for now, others don't. So, you'll have to decide for yourself.
Have fun finding out!

hackmania said:
o man so grinch for a response I know is a dumb question but since i bought the phone today just want to know from the experts
I'm no newbie since I own a tytn,treo 750,mda vario and a kaiser but i will respect all people on the forum
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My issue with the question is that if there truly was a "best ROM so far" available, it would be posted as such and probably stickied. The point is that there is no BEST, even with only 3 of them out there. Each is different.

I've tried all three ROMs and seem to be about the same. Only differences are the apps included, and storage space. Check them out and see for yourself.

Kaiser Roms, which is best?
I spent the last two days testing out all the variants of the ROMS out there, and there are pretty much only 4 English versions available.
Here you go, a nice summary of the results in one quick read, but i've not included the links to the files, some work for you
1. the stock HTC one - RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe (uses WM6 CE OS 5.2.1620)
and then 3 or so (because he has sub versions to remove unnecessary programs) variants of the same ROM by Helmi:
2. helmi_Kaiser_1.57.000.1_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - a cooked version based on HTC WWE version but has newer WM6 CE base code (WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908)
3. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.02_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - another cooked version of HTC_WWE version but has selectable "activator" directory of cabs that the user can install as desired. Also uses same WM6 CE OS 5.2.1908 as above.
4. Helmi_Kaiser_1.57.00.03_AKU.0.7.0.Cooked.exe - yet another flavour, but this one has virtually all extra programs removed in a good attempt at freeing up as much memory as possible, it also uses a newer version of WM6 CE OS 5.2.1921.
see Helmi's link for all the info. My hats off to you Helmi.
In the end, I decided to go with the standard version as released by HTC, as I didn't notice much of a difference myself. I have naturally upgraded various cabs and installed my ideal base set of apps to get the machine setup as I prefer. My decision to go this way was based on what I prefer and you should really try the ROMS yourself to make the correct decision, I didn't try every program with each version so perhaps i missed things.
I upgraded the Radio to version 1.27.12.17. -(this doesn't appear to make any difference to my terrible radio reception or the random dropping off of the radio link to GSM, neither does selecting the gsm option under band instead of auto). Thank god that I don't use 3G as there seems to be a real problem with the UMTS radio code. I just hope that I don't have a hardware fault, but I doubt it as numerous other people and links reflect similar issues to mine. We can only hope that HTC will release new RADIO code soon.
So, I wish you well in your endeavor to find "the perfect ROM".....

While I wouldn't have posted "best rom" question (as I agree, that is so subjective), that is a great help SAppie! Thanks!

Agree and Disagree
Not wanting to piss everyone off
I think the OP was requesting ROM test result and comparison, like SAppie comment, as I also agree there's no such thing as 'best ROM'.
Now, there're release with WM6.5 and others. Anyone can update this with newer ROM's comparison?
As a newbie in WM myself, some of the thread has 1000 pages .. to read all will be tough, but sometimes that's the only way. The FAQ and sticky is helpful as starting point for me ..

well i tried athineos os, hyperdragon III, life in 3d and now i will try 6.5 beta but so far the fastest is the athineos and it greaat

This is an old topic with no real constructive merit, so I'm closing it.
Perhaps this thread is what you're after: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399510
Thanks
Dave

The best WM6 rom for my qtek 9100?, without big bugs!,

can somebody give me a link to a good wm6 rom without bugs?
it is for my qtek 9100 and i want to upgrade to wm6, who can help me?
a quick answer please because i want to update
thanks in advance

eggbom8 said:
can somebody give me a link to a good wm6 rom without bugs?
it is for my qtek 9100 and i want to upgrade to wm6, who can help me?
a quick answer please because i want to update
thanks in advance
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Need a quick answer,you got it "Read The Freak'n Forum"

zabardast_1 said:
Need a quick answer,you got it "Read The Freak'n Forum"
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I must say that is one quick answer. WELL SAID!
eggbom8 said:
can somebody give me a link to a good wm6 rom without bugs?
it is for my qtek 9100 and i want to upgrade to wm6, who can help me?
a quick answer please because i want to update
thanks in advance
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To put it simply, there is no best Rom for the Wizard and almost all latest releases are almost Bug Free. You're not going to find a perfect one but to decide which one is for you, you NEED to read.

dharvey4651 said:
I must say that is one quick answer. WELL SAID!
To put it simply, there is no best Rom for the Wizard and almost all latest releases are almost Bug Free. You're not going to find a perfect one but to decide which one is for you, you NEED to read.
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And if you read a lot, you can probably cook your own! Which I will try soon.

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And if you read a lot, you can probably cook your own! Which I will try soon.
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Haha I just started last night. I am using my modified version of its right's TNT.1437 with a 10mb pagepool as a base and am just adding and removing as I please.

Seriously if I read one more thread answering "SEARCH THE FORUMS YOU IDIOT!" I'm gonna spontaneous combust!! I have searched the forums and you're the idiots because instead of finding any answers, I find 'search more'.
You know technology updates all the time right? What the hell is your big deal in just giving your opinion on what the best ROM is right now? It would probably take the same amount of keystrokes. I'm looking for an up-to-date answer.
So if you don't mind stop being an a**hole and contribute to the forums instead of making everyone go in circles.
Anyways, anybody have any suggestions for WM6? I like Faria's stuff for WM5 but it looks the same for his WM6. I would appreciate any feedback or experiences. And please lay off, I'm looking for answers not a fight. No hard feelings

sunycheeba416 said:
Seriously if I read one more thread answering "SEARCH THE FORUMS YOU IDIOT!" I'm gonna spontaneous combust!! I have searched the forums and you're the idiots because instead of finding any answers, I find 'search more'.
You know technology updates all the time right? What the hell is your big deal in just giving your opinion on what the best ROM is right now? It would probably take the same amount of keystrokes. I'm looking for an up-to-date answer.
So if you don't mind stop being an a**hole and contribute to the forums instead of making everyone go in circles.
Anyways, anybody have any suggestions for WM6? I like Faria's stuff for WM5 but it looks the same for his WM6. I would appreciate any feedback or experiences. And please lay off, I'm looking for answers not a fight. No hard feelings
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Dude chill. EVERYONE gets the same answer when it comes to what rom is best. Its a matter of opinion.
Try TNT.1437 with the 10Mb pagepool. That's what I've been using for months and love it.

sunycheeba416 said:
Seriously if I read one more thread answering "SEARCH THE FORUMS YOU IDIOT!" I'm gonna spontaneous combust!! I have searched the forums and you're the idiots because instead of finding any answers, I find 'search more'.
You know technology updates all the time right? What the hell is your big deal in just giving your opinion on what the best ROM is right now? It would probably take the same amount of keystrokes. I'm looking for an up-to-date answer.
So if you don't mind stop being an a**hole and contribute to the forums instead of making everyone go in circles.
Anyways, anybody have any suggestions for WM6? I like Faria's stuff for WM5 but it looks the same for his WM6. I would appreciate any feedback or experiences. And please lay off, I'm looking for answers not a fight. No hard feelings
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Great forum spirit too guy! Go on! You're on the right track...

Rudeness is not recommended here. sunycheeba416 banned for 3 days.
P.S. I also closed the thread, since you all know this question has been asked zillion times before.

SMS Sending problem w/ WWE 6.1 Official

Hey there
I recently upgraded to the official WWE 6.1 of HTC. Now I know that there's seems to be a lot of issues with it according to several threads.
I just wanted to know if anyone experienced this weird behavior...
When I try to send an SMS, OFTEN and it doesn't seems to happen when I do something in particular, my message CAN'T be sent, I have to retry a LEAST 3 times so that it's being sent successfully. I never experienced that with 6.0.
Would it be due to something special...? I've check my SMS service center number and it's fine.
Any ideas?

alway look at the stickys in the forum, loads of info, yes, that means lots of reading,
try this, go down to the 4th post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
also try posting in the thread where you got the rom from.
good luck
Lupe

overhaulengines said:
alway look at the stickys in the forum, loads of info, yes, that means lots of reading,
try this, go down to the 4th post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
also try posting in the thread where you got the rom from.
good luck
Lupe
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Hey there...
We'll i've did several search before posting this! and I did mention it was the OFFICIAL HTC rom (which implies comming from the HTC website...)!

AngelSpirit said:
Hey there...
We'll i've did several search before posting this! and I did mention it was the OFFICIAL HTC rom (which implies comming from the HTC website...)!
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well..... cut my legs off and call me shorty, last time i looked in the kaiser forum, theres not alot of "offical stuff" just home cooking, maybe thats why im the only fool answering this, anyway just trying to help,
OH, i know, try posting in the "offical HTC website
lupe

overhaulengines said:
well..... cut my legs off and call me shorty, last time i looked in the kaiser forum, theres not alot of "offical stuff" just home cooking, maybe thats why im the only fool answering this, anyway just trying to help,
OH, i know, try posting in the "offical HTC website
lupe
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I didn't meant to be rude
I've saw several threads here in regards to that official release of HTC (which is available through their website)
So if this is the wrong place, I'll post this msg in another subforums, I just dont want to be flamed because I'm *double* posting.
thx for the suggestions

I need a Clean WM6.1!

Hi, i would like to test to flash my phone with a CLEAR WM6,1 now i use Clear WM6. Does someone here can give me a link?

thrashed!!

There is a Clean ROM by fireburned. Read the threads carefully before you start a new and unnecessary thread

Is it really so difficult to read at least the first page of the vox sub forum? You didn't even have to search for it!!!

A very good first subject, congratulations...

This is my request!
Seems you do not understand i need a clean version of WM 6.1 FOR me. Not for my phone. I want to try something. Is it so hard to read and help me if you have that clean version. I do not want modifies versions and so on. I need a simple clean version of WM6.1 . Can you give me a link? Is it so hard to understand?

Well is it so hard to use the search or to read?

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Seems you do not understand i need a clean version of WM 6.1 FOR me. Not for my phone.
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You want to install WM6.1 on your brain, not on your Vox ???
Search a little on the forum, just on the first page...

Hmmm
I guess he is after the microsofts wm 6.1 emulator image on which fireburned based his ROM on without any modification etc. I do not know how or where you can get it. If you don't mind me asking, why do you need that?
Good luck on your search.
thearif

thearif said:
I guess he is after the microsofts wm 6.1 emulator image on which fireburned based his ROM on without any modification etc. I do not know how or where you can get it. If you don't mind me asking, why do you need that?
Good luck on your search.
thearif
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If it's that, it's here :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...52-f89e-4354-84ce-5d19c204498a&displaylang=en
Bye.

fireburned said:
You want to install WM6.1 on your brain, not on your Vox ???
Search a little on the forum, just on the first page...
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Me think too

thearif said:
I guess he is after the microsofts wm 6.1 emulator image on which fireburned based his ROM on without any modification etc. I do not know how or where you can get it. If you don't mind me asking, why do you need that?
Good luck on your search.
thearif
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Then I guess he should have mentioned emulator image, and not clean ROM. Anybody can download it from Microsoft's Site.
pple

SIRavecavec said:
Hi, i would like to test to flash my phone with a CLEAR WM6,1 now i use Clear WM6. Does someone here can give me a link?
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Here you want it for your phone.
SIRavecavec said:
Seems you do not understand i need a clean version of WM 6.1 FOR me. Not for my phone. I want to try something. Is it so hard to read and help me if you have that clean version. I do not want modifies versions and so on. I need a simple clean version of WM6.1 . Can you give me a link? Is it so hard to understand?
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Here you don't want it for your phone

+1 for matrix77

Whats up with you people?
I totally understand it irritates people when someone asks a question which has been answered so many times elsewhere. But the attitude thrown at a newcomer with such a question is a little exaggerated (in a bad way). First of all, most of us use English as a 2nd language and as a result having a language barrier. And some of us can not even explain what we mean %100 right. YES they should search a little bit before posting. But what if they could not find the answer they were looking for, or did not UNDERSTAND which is quite possible. I mean have you tried to search Vox forum for little things? Such as how to do some tiny adjustment, modding? First couple dozen of the results you get are from cooked ROMs and those topics are very long (close to 100 pages) due to popularity of these ROMs. I am glad that it is like that, as I found fireburned's fabulous clean ROM that way. But requires quite a bit of reading and there is chance people can miss it.
So it seems, when people learn some, arrogance takes over?... Is that it?
Instead of writing some insulting comments to the poster of the question without any real answer to the question, Can I suggest not to reply at all. That way, you would not waste your precious time.
God, am I glad that my teacher was not like some of people here, so all my questions (stupid or not) are answered in a nice manner. And I am hoping to be the same way with my students.
I really appreciate all the good work you guys are doing here. But come on !!
The guy with the question joins the forum only on the 17th of Jan.. What happened to the hospitality.
thearif

@thearif
if you think we are abusive, please report the post by clicking on the Red triangle on top left of the post.Thanks and best of luck. BTW there are lot of noobs we help or rather spoon feed when they brick their devices, and that includes each and every one who has replied to this thread, try searching for our posts.
Best of luck about reporting.

Hi Shaunak.it,
I don't need to search for your posts to know that you guys helped a lot of noob's including myself. And I am grateful for that and appreciate it a lot. And I think your reply to this post (the first one) was good and maybe I would've written the same thing, as you referred him to fb's clean ROM first and also asked him to do a search first then post. Which is totally understandable. But that should have been enough as it already made the point. There was no need for anybody else to re-iterate the same thing over and over again. Especially the very first reply to this post was ridiculous. "Trashed" what the hell does that mean? Anyways, there is no need to prolong this conversation. I apologize if I make you feel the need to defend yourself as it was no attack on anybody. It was merely me being bothered by the treatment this poster got for his question. As none of us truly understood what he was really asking for in the first place. Clear ROM may mean fb's clean rom, or microsoft base for wm6.1 or whatever. Who knows...
thearif

thearif said:
So it seems, when people learn some, arrogance takes over?... Is that it?
What happened to the hospitality.
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Arrogance... In the same day, 3 news guys (only 1 post) who asks one question that answer is on the first page of this forum, excuse me, but i can't undestand and say : "welcome to you, ohhhh, you d'ont read just the first page of this forum, you don't search 5 min an answer of your question, but let me help you, i can tell you the good answer, no need to seek, just post your first question !"
NO, NO, NO, and NO !!!
Hospitality comes with respect of forum's rules and peoples who make this place a good space of exchanges !
Take 5 min and search a litle is the minimum i think.
Bye.

there is a rule in this forum and most forums for that matter:
SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST.
btw did you report?