Hi
I'm brand new here, and I'm hoping this question may have already been asked and answered but...
I have the new Orbit 2 and really much prefer the HTC Home to the o2 Today.
So I installed HTC Home and it works fine but...
I'm not able to control it in the same as this guy can with the TouchFlo...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5olemDlIRI
I'd like to be able to control it in the EXACT same way; I have UltimateLaunch but it doesn't seem to change the whole screen in the way the video does, just the bit at the bottom.
Am I missing some software?
Many, many thanks
Oliver,.
just bumping my question...
I would be very interested in this too as a new owner of an orbit2
Alfie, can you give me any pointers to the HTC Home app please?
The answer to this thread is actually extremely simple. Remove ALL today plugins except for ultimate launcher then add your HTC plugin onto a tab in UL, then create more tabs with icons and such, set the tab gestures to open/perform the desired tasks and lastly set the height of the ultimate launch plugin to be equal to your entire screen size. After you play around for a bit you will understand. Ultimate launch does not use touchflo, it has its own "touchflo" monitor. I have been using a setup like this for a few days now and am quite happy with it. if you search here in the developer section you will see some threads there for "the better cube", "questions about tabbed today" and others. read those and you will be quite happy.
My O2 Orbit2 did not come with HTC Home, any clues as to where I can get this please?
I read a little and apparently it is not possible ,at the moment, to incorporate "Phone Alarm" into TouchFlo 3D.
Well this pisses me of because I spent over $1000.00 on that new device and I can't even configure it the way I want and use the apps or "Tools" I like and need the way I want it....
So the goal of this Thread is to see if there are others in the same situation and maybe team up to try to find someone that has the Resources, Knowledge and the Time to make this request possible...
I've been reading on this site for almost two years and became a member (not too active) close to a year now and can honestly say that there is some super brilliant minds in here, not all, but some, that could probably write a "Patch" or even Rewrite this TouchFlo3D SW that would allow it to be personalized and more user friendly.
There is four things that I would like to get in this new TF3D
1- Ability to have TF3D and PA (Phone Alarm) to run simultaneously (without the need of a 3rd party sw)
2- Have the "Top Bar" or "Bottom Bar" to display the actual PA "Profile"
3- Have a large PA "Scroller" field (somewhere)
4- Link the "little WM Alarm Clock" to PA's Alarm instead.
If there are some others in the same situation, please let it be known...
I am really please with using SecondToday making the left softkey open SecondToday from the Home Page of Touchflo 3D.I know you said no third party software but it is really nice to have the "best" of both worlds in using ToucFlo as it was designed and having a whole new Today screen for PhoneAlarm. With the power of our device there is absolutely no lag when switching between SecondToday today screen and Touchflo "today" screen.
this really works and I'm actually glad to have touchflo and phonealarmon different pages
ps I have a nice vga skin for PA and TodayAgenda on my secondtoday today screen
jcrompton said:
I am really please with using SecondToday making the left softkey open SecondToday from the Home Page of Touchflo 3D.I know you said no third party software but it is really nice to have the "best" of both worlds in using ToucFlo as it was designed and having a whole new Today screen for PhoneAlarm. With the power of our device there is absolutely no lag when switching between SecondToday today screen and Touchflo "today" screen.
this really works and I'm actually glad to have touchflo and phonealarmon different pages
ps I have a nice vga skin for PA and TodayAgenda on my secondtoday today screen
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What skin do you use for PhoneAlarm ?
I didn't find a nice one yet so I now use PhoneWeaver with SecondToday instead of PhoneAlarm but I want to use PhoneAlarm again.
I've used PhoneAlarm on my TytnII for almost a year and is way better than PhoneWeaver.
I totally love touch flo but I am not sold that it is anything but eye candy and that other software overlays for WM6.1 might be better.
I was curious if there are people out there who have jettisoned touchflo in favor of something else, and what is that else?
Thanks for your opinions, input and software suggestions.
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
I googled WAD and was soured by what Google thinks I was referencing. )
What are you referencing? Manilla is TouchFlo right, but where does hte manilla come from? What is WAD?
WAD is Wisbar Advance Desktop, here you go:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
There are a lot of nice skins for WAD.
ufufu got it for you
yes manilla is "touch flo"
manilla comes from htc but has been reverse engineered by some developers on xda.
joel2009 said:
i go back and forth between wad and manilla
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i added wad to pda V10 and cant get it to work.. i disabled tf in today but wad still wont display weather etc..
its just a black screen
i really like the look of what wad is supposed to be..
any help is greatly appreciated
thanx
i see it the same way.. Manila2D/TF3D is good only for having your PDA look cool. it's not as useful as a PDA could get.
I set my UltimateLaunch to be as useful as i could using FEWidgets/Makecall (for speed dialing)/Rumball's weather/some internet icons and a networking plugin... and so forth.
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How do you feel wisbar advanced desktop comapres to SPB pocket plus, do you have any experience?
Glad to hear I am not alone with tf3d not being the ultimate in work horses, I will look into ultimate launch.
by blank screen does it actually look like a blank screen, or does it look like there is nothing on your today screen. wisbar has to be completely designed by hand, or you have to download a theme file.
go here for a theme and tutorial i have put together.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442813
I have the same question and thoughts - perhaps WAD or SPB mobile shell would be a better fit b/c of the greater potential for customization. Can anyone comment on the memory usage / responsiveness between tf2d and WAD or tf2d and SPB mobile shell?
the opposite here. i used to have ultimateLaunch, but when Manila (TF3D) was born, ditched UL and now I am a happy manila user... love the changing themes every now and then, and everything else that comes with it, e.g. great graphics (rain animation is nice) and the close to no maintenance. manila is a little less flexibile the UL, but, pros overcome cons, for me at least.
I have been around here a bit and have searched and found the ELFIN threads but can someone please explain the what and why behind the TF2d replacements?
I would also appreciate what exactly one needs to play with them if they are as cool looking as they seem. I have the v20 zip but I am not sure how or even if I should proceed with installs of the numbered files.
ANY Help on this would be greatly appreciated!
rac
most of the stuff you may not need to install if you dont want too but plug your phone to your pc and then transfer the files to a place on your phone.
say make a folder on the storage card and then start with number 1 and go all the way till the end. you may see a file called manila test or something well thats the M2D theme but you want to install the other items 1st.
if you have a touch you may have to disable your cube which is easy, just replace 3 files on your phone in the windows folder.
its good to get a registry editor also you may need it
Thanks for the help, I have the reg editor. Can you be a bit more specific as to which 3 files I need to replace and replace with what?
Can you give me some background as to why TF2D is better than TF3D. Really, nowhere is this addressed. I have various themes for TF3D, different clocks, icons, etc. What does one get by installing and using TF2D???
rac
well first what pone do u have, because dependig on the phone you have, manilla 3d may not work. so far its only on the diamond, hd, touchpro, and sum have it on teh xperia. manila 2d is for those who like the way 3d looks but dont have a 3d capable phone. manilla 2d is not better than 3d, but its pretty much the same, without the 3d animations.
just noticed u have a fuze. disregard my last statement. u dont need tf2d cuz ur phone comes with 3d already. dont even wori about the cube edits, because ur phone doesnt come with a cube.
EDIT: you just need the tf3d editor. its somewhere around here. use the search. im not sure as to where exactly it is.
TF2D and TF3D are completely different. TF3D is built for devices with a stronger hardware accelerator but has been ported so that it is somehow (poorly) useful on other devices.
TF2D fits most devices now.
The main difference between userwise is graphics.
TF3D has a nicer looking interface (at least in my eyes).. has animated weather, animated clock...
TF2D doesn't have those.. and is mostly static (besides the bottom buttonbar).
You can't really measure how much TF3D or TF2D are "better" than each other. it depends on which device you've got and what you expect graphicswise and usabilitywise.
If you have the EFLIN, i'd suggest either using TF2D or... FEWidgets...(you can search for FEwidgets and see what it's all about).
cheers
Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for in an answer to my question. I really am having a ball checking what each icon set or clock is going to look like and I wondered where TF2D fit into this universe.
Thanks for the answer!
rac
btw, i personally suggest at least trying FEWidgets. I'm using it now and it's undoubtfully the best interface i ever had. looks and usability.
Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
gewin said:
What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,
I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.
Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
Complexity
Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.
@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....
I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...
Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.
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I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...
Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.
my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.
spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...
UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.
I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...
i envy you mate
phezthie said:
i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....