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Minimo (FireFox) Browser for WinCE released

:lol: Always wanted Netscape/Mozilla/FireFox/MiniMO on your WinCEPocketPC! :lol:
Mozilla Org released minimo which will be the best browser ever
Tabbed Browsing
Works on Internet Banking site etc etc
Goodbye Opera and PIE
8)
Heres the Link: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
Regards
Skillie

somebody found America?

It's still *very* early stages. OK, so it renders better than anything else, but the rest of the interface is nasty. It's also hideously slow to respond on both 400Mhz XDA2 and 600Mhz iPaq. And the keyboard doesn't work in landscape mode. TBH a custom soft keyboard would be better.
Wait til 0.7 before you expect any sort of useable version (Current version is 0.013!)
There is a little-known browser called Thunderhawk which renders brilliantly to a 320x240 screen in landscape by scaling everything down. But it's a bit sluggish, and they seem to pass *all* traffic through their own server to perform preprocessing (and thus you need to pay a subscription.) I think Minimo has the potential to blow all of them out of the water if it can be faster than Opera and as impressive in its output as Thunderhawk.

Wait, WM5 only?
*tries it on his 2003SE device anyway*

If you're looking for a tabbed browser try ftxPBrowser. Same engine as PIE, so compatible with most sites. Also it uses the same favorites, cookies & cache. History seems not to be working though. & it's only 75K:!:
Regards, M

Many people don't like the IE rendering engine, or the IE way of rendering (e.g. Opera) which is why they seek alternatives.
Further, the reason it's "only 75k" is because it's not a browser. Whoever wrote it - and PIE - didn't actually write a browser themselves, they just instructed IE to render the page into the area they specified. The tabs just switch between visible IE areas. In short, if you uninstall IE then it won't work. It's like taking a Fiat Cinqecento and putting a Peugeot 407 body on it, then saying it's a whole new car which is very light but looks just as good as something else. If you take the Fiat out, it doesn't go any more.
(Coders out there - I know this is technically very loose, but I'm trying to put this simply for someone who doesn't understand the relevance of MiniMo)

Excuse me for being so dumb... I know what Minimo is about, tried it & opera (mini too) & thunderhawk as well.
Problem is though that PIE is still the most compatible:!:
I use firefox on my PC & probably will be using minimo when it's working properly. But at the moment minimo is almost useless from the user point of view.
Yes you got me P on this.

Minimo is also currently around 10Mb.... bit large methinks. (and bloody slow)

My take on this
Minimo is slow
Opera is fiddly and the download thing is a HUGE prob plus takes up too much space
PIE seems to work fine.
What exactly is up with PIE ? I mean on a desktop Mozilla rules but on a handheld ???

Huge problem with PIE for many people is that it's a M$ product. Personal I don't mind.
Serious problem is that it doesn't render, one column does help a little & there's the lack of tabs. For this last I use ftxPBrowser. Problem with that one is the lack of history & most important downloads are very problematic if not impossible.
Which make me use ftxPBrowser & Opera mini (no https :-( ) for browsing & PIE for downloads.
Now it's waiting for a good rendering, downloading & secured browser.
Cheers, M

Strange thing I know about people disloking MS progs, I know people do not like them, the thing is why are they using devices with MS op system on them when they could be using a Symbian unit.

It's a real problem, huh?
Palm and symbian have some really nice software to run on their devices, I'm especially a fan of the UIQ stuff that SE slaps on top of Symbian. The don't, however, seem to have quite got the knack of cobbling together really good hardware to run it all on.
Of course, the kids who make the really cool hardware seem content to slap Windows Mobile on there and be done with it.
So, in conclusion: come on HTC, go source a proper OS for your handhelds. Maybe have a word with Apple?
Back on-topic: it seems to run on WM2003SE, but not very nicely. It's all juddery and incomplete and frankly kind of rubbish. More evidence, if it was ever needed, that Magician-type devices are not meant for web browsing.

i use one of the beta versions on 2003
it's ok but slow
and it DONT SUPPORT COPY PASTE!!!
which is a biatch

ATEOTD no Firefox/Mozilla is worth using at such early test versions. It's worth keeping an eye on if you're that geeky - but Firefox (back when it was Phoenix then Firebird) wasn't really useable until version 0.7. Consider that minimo is at 0.07 or something - it has a long way to go before it's competing with IE/Opera. I won't put PIE in that list, because it's just not a browser. And Thunderhawk is simply incomparible in its function. I would like to see a browser which renders as well as Thunderhawk but more quickly and without needing to interface with a central server, though.
Minimo's greatest feature so far is that it does actually support JavaScript and AJAX systems like Google Maps, which no other browser can do. But to get the speed out of Thunderhawk, you would probably need to render to a static image. And that negates animated GIFs and any JavaScript that manipulates on-screen elements.

Picsel Browser Release/Sell Petition

If you want iPhone sfari browser like functionality, but better, I suggest that we start a petition for Piscel to release/sell Piscel Web Browser. Which suspiciously looks and functions similar to safari in more ways than one, Apple did you license this? Who's with me? How much would you pay. Me, $40!

I would hate to do it, but i would eventually pay even that 40€ for all the features.
They sell that lame Picsel viewer for everyone, why not the darn slick browser that isnt currently going anywhere?

Well, I don't know. I didn't like the Picsel browser very much - but that's only me. IMHO, the alternatives (OPera Mobile / Mini, NF 3.4 and even IEM + PIEPlus) are better in many respects.

Is it just me or can't picsel download anything? That is one big con...
but for browsing and reading it's the best out there in my opinion.
Still, I hate that donwload links won't work and I would not spend 40 bucks for that. If they changed that, maybe, but rather not.

well seeing as were on the whole picsel topic(and saving me from starting a new thread) i was wondering if any one knew if you can get any of picsels other products,like their photo viewer...its simply amazing! if you have a look at their web site they a few other great products as well.
oh btw,if they dont sell the picsel browser and other products to consumers,who do they sell them to?i understand they license out their products to businesses,but then how come we havent seen them on any ppc products? (besides the samsung branded picsel browser)

chriskaragiannis said:
well seeing as were on the whole picsel topic(and saving me from starting a new thread) i was wondering if any one knew if you can get any of picsels other products,like their photo viewer...its simply amazing! if you have a look at their web site they a few other great products as well.
oh btw,if they dont sell the picsel browser and other products to consumers,who do they sell them to?i understand they license out their products to businesses,but then how come we havent seen them on any ppc products? (besides the samsung branded picsel browser)
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They are missing a big opportunity by not releasing all of there products. Idiots!!! What about that petition?

love this quote from their site
picsel said:
Picsel’s Browser works across the world’s most popular mobile devices, simply and quickly. That’s democracy of access in action.
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The democracy of access, eh? Well that's all well and good but we can't actually access your browser!
I would pay good money for a browser that could even come close to safari on the iPhone. IE and Opera Mobile just don't cut it, and Opera Mini is a joke (stupid midlet --if they made a windows mobile version of Opera Mini 4 (not a midlet) it would probably be pretty good.

Price $20
I would pay $20---and no more.
Renders pages great--except for pages with Java (disappointment) or flash contents. Can't download--not that I want to, but would be nice.
Advantage: Pan and Zoom. Wished all browsers like Opera and Netfront 3.3 have that.

existence said:
If you want iPhone Safary browser like functionality, but better, I suggest that we start a petition for Piscel to release/sell Piscel Web Browser. Which suspiciously looks and functions similar to safari in more ways than one, Apple did you license this? Who's with me? How much would you pay. Me, $40!
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Picsel Browser is a mediocre Browser, it has a good UI concept but is the lamest browser that I tried for WM.
Safary is a FULL browser, not a reduced one like Picsel. If Picsel build a full browser like Safary or even near to full I can think on support any petition, but right now Picsel is only a good looking browser nothing else.
Regards,
Taguapire.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Safari (for the iPhone) doesn't support Flash (nor Java, but I am not sure).

Mmm
Picsel really ain't that bad at all. It's much better than the other browsers I've used (Opera Mini/Mobile, PIE, MiniMo, Deepfish), at least for general reading and so on.
Haven't actually tried downloading files, but if what the dude mentions earlier in the thread is true, they really ought to do something about that.
I also heard it doesn't (fully?) support Javascript but once again I haven't attempted to use any Jscript-heavy sites to verify this.
All in all, I'm ready to pay around $30 for this browser, $40 or more if they fix the issues above + the smooth scroll issue.

well i only use picsel browser as a image viewer, the only thing thatd make me pay for this thing is if they added opera like text/paragraph wrapping, i love how it automatically fits to my screen
and it also needs to manage its memory better

magius said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Safari (for the iPhone) doesn't support Flash (nor Java, but I am not sure).
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No Flash (at the moment)
No JAVA Applets (will never happen)
But is a full implemented Web browser with same features that any Desktop Browser have. Is based in KHTML project (KDE) and works in the same way that Safary does for Mac Desktop computers. FLASH support will be added in the near future.
Regards,
Taguapire.

forcedalias said:
Picsel really ain't that bad at all. It's much better than the other browsers I've used (Opera Mini/Mobile, PIE, MiniMo, Deepfish), at least for general reading and so on.
Haven't actually tried downloading files, but if what the dude mentions earlier in the thread is true, they really ought to do something about that.
I also heard it doesn't (fully?) support Javascript but once again I haven't attempted to use any Jscript-heavy sites to verify this.
All in all, I'm ready to pay around $30 for this browser, $40 or more if they fix the issues above + the smooth scroll issue.
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Hi,
Opera Mobile has a better implementation of JScript and DHTML than Picsel. I thought that Picsel Browser can be a beutiful piece of software if owners do not marginate it and get it better support for all Web technologies, for a while it is crappy and memory eater.
Regards,
Taguapire.

I've tried Picsel, and TBH it's a bit rubbish. Some of the sites I visit it doesn't render; and entering data into fields doesn't seem to work at all, making it rather useless.

magius said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Safari (for the iPhone) doesn't support Flash (nor Java, but I am not sure).
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Yup, no Flash / Java AFAIK

FloatingFatMan said:
I've tried Picsel, and TBH it's a bit rubbish. Some of the sites I visit it doesn't render; and entering data into fields doesn't seem to work at all, making it rather useless.
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Agreed - see my related reviews.

taguapire said:
Hi,
Opera Mobile has a better implementation of JScript and DHTML than Picsel. I thought that Picsel Browser can be a beutiful piece of software if owners do not marginate it and get it better support for all Web technologies, for a while it is crappy and memory eater.
Regards,
Taguapire.
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Agreed. I've also made some serious JavaScript & AJAX compliance tests see my Bible). OM is FAR better.

Picsel might not be the most accurate browser of them all. But it is the only one with a usable interface for full -web browsing experience. (opera mini is nice, but hey, it's java)
It also is quite fast to use and it doesnt freeze you while loading stuff, allowing you to find stuff before the whole page is complete.
I think that if it was sold, it would have a download manager of somesort.
It could be that the ripped version is just lacking it.
I would die to get an updated version, we are using the same thing that first
appeared like 3-4 years ago on a palm device.

Well we shall see who wins this year's browser wars when Opera 9, and now, Wake3 WM WebKit (Safari) is available. Hopefully the zooming and drag gestures will be included in their implementation.

Torch Mobile Iris Browser Beta 1 looking good

Hey guys some of you may remember way back earlier in the year a company called torch mobile launched a preview of their webkit browser called iris, it was a bit crap very buggy no real zoom etc etc most people wrote it off straight away.
Well now they have launched a proper beta and it has to be said its very impressive it has now got page overview zoom, mouse cursor, ability to import bookmarks and lots ofvother really quite kewl features.
It is a little slow to render pages, when compared to opera and is a memory hog but must say im quite liking it. not sure if flash works perhaps the experts in here may get it too work.
Anyhows just google torch mobile and you should be able to find the link to get it.
let me know what you guys think.

stevej26uk said:
let me know what you guys think.
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Well, I spent the last couple of weeks comparing more or less all the available PPC browsers (IRIS, Opera 9.5 in different flavours, Opera mini, Opera mini with java addons, Netfront 3.5, Jataayu, Minimo, Skyfire and also IE addons such as PIE+, MultiIE, Webby etc.
I tested these on the road as well as at home, on WiFi as well as GPRS.
In the end I chucked them all except IRIS.
It basically has all I need (find in page, tabs, zoom, etc.) and runs very well on my Elf. It doesn't (yet) do inline videos like Skyfire does, but Skyfire is pretty useless otherwise.
Skyfire in many ways reminds me of a Java midlet like Opera Mini with pre-chewed pages. The advantage is that it doesn't cache pages on the PPC (just like Opera Mini). But it scores really low on usability and customisation
IRIS is similar in many ways to Netfront, but is open source and (so far) freeware. I also prefer the way IRIS zooms and has an option to present pages in one colums as defauls (rather than having to hit reflow in Netfront). NF visual bookmarks are pretty but rather useless. IRIS has a similar function for History, where it's much more useful. OTOH NF has loads of functions (including on-the-fly Japanese-to-English translation...) which may or may not be useful to you. And it's better at rendering non-Roman character content, such as Arabic or Hebrew pages than IRIS.
From PIE I only miss the possibility to search for bookmarks by typing the first letter of the bookmark title...
What I´d like to see in IRIS is more support for content, but the architecture with plugins will certainly take care of that. And extended copy and paste to page contents as well as in the address bar, as is currently the case.
Otherwise IRIS is my default browser and will stay that way.
Bernard

bfarkin said:
Well, I spent the last couple of weeks comparing more or less all the available PPC browsers (IRIS, Opera 9.5 in different flavours, Opera mini, Opera mini with java addons, Netfront 3.5, Jataayu, Minimo, Skyfire and also IE addons such as PIE+, MultiIE, Webby etc.
I tested these on the road as well as at home, on WiFi as well as GPRS.
In the end I chucked them all except IRIS.
It basically has all I need (find in page, tabs, zoom, etc.) and runs very well on my Elf. It doesn't (yet) do inline videos like Skyfire does, but Skyfire is pretty useless otherwise.
Skyfire in many ways reminds me of a Java midlet like Opera Mini with pre-chewed pages. The advantage is that it doesn't cache pages on the PPC (just like Opera Mini). But it scores really low on usability and customisation
IRIS is similar in many ways to Netfront, but is open source and (so far) freeware. I also prefer the way IRIS zooms and has an option to present pages in one colums as defauls (rather than having to hit reflow in Netfront). NF visual bookmarks are pretty but rather useless. IRIS has a similar function for History, where it's much more useful. OTOH NF has loads of functions (including on-the-fly Japanese-to-English translation...) which may or may not be useful to you. And it's better at rendering non-Roman character content, such as Arabic or Hebrew pages than IRIS.
From PIE I only miss the possibility to search for bookmarks by typing the first letter of the bookmark title...
What I´d like to see in IRIS is more support for content, but the architecture with plugins will certainly take care of that. And extended copy and paste to page contents as well as in the address bar, as is currently the case.
Otherwise IRIS is my default browser and will stay that way.
Bernard
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thanks for the detailed comparison, I'll definitely link to it in my next story on Iris

I've had Iris installed since a very early public beta. I really wanted to like it. I love the browser on the iPhone. But Iris is still a memory hog, slow to render, and still crashes here and there.
Also, the overall design/layout if very amateurish. Some of the places they put options just don't make sense. Up until the latest beta, there wasn't even a way to go back to your home page.
Their favorite handling is just plan stupid. I want to scroll up and down to find the webpage I want to go to. What happens? I constantly ACCIDENTALLY move the favorite around instead of scrolling the list (which works sometimes but not consistently). Every version has gotten a little better, but it's nowhere close to a commercially viable product. PocketIE as old as it is renders most pages faster.
As a note, I view Mobile webpages when available and rarely go to desktop intended websites.
-Mc

Menneisyys said:
thanks for the detailed comparison, I'll definitely link to it in my next story on Iris
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You're welcome, and I apologise for the typos - I did type in IRIS on my Elf virtual keyboard...
Bernard

McHale said:
I've had Iris installed since a very early public beta. I really wanted to like it. I love the browser on the iPhone. But Iris is still a memory hog, slow to render, and still crashes here and there.
Also, the overall design/layout if very amateurish. Some of the places they put options just don't make sense. Up until the latest beta, there wasn't even a way to go back to your home page.
Their favorite handling is just plan stupid. I want to scroll up and down to find the webpage I want to go to. What happens? I constantly ACCIDENTALLY move the favorite around instead of scrolling the list (which works sometimes but not consistently). Every version has gotten a little better, but it's nowhere close to a commercially viable product. PocketIE as old as it is renders most pages faster.
As a note, I view Mobile webpages when available and rarely go to desktop intended websites.
-Mc
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Interesting.... I'm very pleased with the performance on the Elf, but I did move the cache to my SD card. I do find that it has improved since I did that. But maybe I'm just imagining things.
I agree about the bookmsrks and the somewhat haphazard menu item placement...
In order to avoid moving bookmarks around I do use the d-pad, but that is not really satisfactory. I also tend to use the URL auto fill-in. I wish you could do the same on the bookmark page, like in PIE.
Bernard

And I just found out that Skyfire does indeed cache pages on the device as well....
B.

I wasn't really impressed with the original couple betas of skyfire and would usually uninstall shortly after install, but now I'm using it more than Opera Mini which I was a big fan of. This page helped me give skyfire another chance:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/mobile-browser-showdown-iphone-3g-vs-opera-mobile-and-skyfire
Check out the performance stats!
Just wish they would incorporate tabs...
Oh yah, my biggest gripe: LET ME IMPORT MY IE FAVORITES!!!
-Mc
p.s. I'm still hoping that Iris gets to be almost as good as Mobile Safari.

McHale said:
Check out the performance stats!
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Wow, that *is* impressive!
And yes, I also feel handicapped without tabs....
Bernard

sky fire 1.0

it is available to download the version 1.0 of sky fire
IMO is much much better than the previus ones... any way i'm still waiting for the opera 9.7
thins is the info taht the sf team said
What’s new in 1.0?
•Thumbnail interaction. Now you can click on links immediately after the page loads without having to zoom in. This enhancement is especially helpful for high resolution phones, and for familiar sites where you know right away where you want to click. It makes getting to the content you want on the page simpler, quicker and more efficient.
•Improved zoom. Double-tap or double-click to zoom over any element, including links, images or videos. The zoom interaction is smoother and more responsive as well. Best of all: when you zoom in you will get readable text instantly.
•Enhanced navigation. When you navigate back or forward, you return to the last viewport (e.g. zoom level and portion of the page). This eliminates the need to pan and zoom into the section you were viewing on the previous page. Skyfire remembers the viewport even when you select a page from your history. We have also added shortcut keys, (9) for forward and (7) for backward navigation.
•Improved page handling. Enhancements have been made especially for AJAX-intensive sites such as Facebook and Gmail. When larger parts of the page get updated, the client will more quickly and accurately reflect this. In addition, now, we support full-width iFrames in Skyfire.
•Fast start. We changed both the sequence and behavior of the Skyfire launch so you get started as quickly as possible. You can type a search or URL in the Superbar while Skyfire is connecting in the background. You can put Skyfire to work before the start page is even loaded. Plus, we’ve improved connection performance.
•Reconnect to last state. When you leave Skyfire in the background Skyfire disconnects to preserve battery life. When you come back to Skyfire (after minutes, hours, days), it will reload the same page to the same zoom level and focus. You can continue right where you left off. When you exit and start again, Skyfire you will always land on the start page.
•Connection helper. There is a new mechanism to detect when connections cannot be established to Skyfire servers. If this is due to a network configuration (common in GSM land), then we provide suggestions to help out. This is especially useful if you are with a carrier/data plan that places restrictions on certain APN configurations, which interferes with Skyfire.
•Enhanced search results. Google results now include video, news articles, local results all blended on a single results page and ordered by relevance. Vertical search categories are still available.
•Improved RSS feed search. Find your favorite custom RSS feeds through the improved Add-Feed feature, found under the Customize menu on the start page. Search by site domain, feed URL, or even topical keywords.
•Easier sharing of RSS items from start page. We’ve exposed a simple “Share this article” link below each RSS story displayed on your start page to make it easier to share interesting items to your Twitter and Facebook.
•Remember last connection (Symbian only). Skyfire can now remember the last connection for you, so you will not have to choose a connection every single time. In addition, if you want to change the connection type while you are in Skyfire you can do so.
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Thanks for the tip!

Just downloaded to my Alltel Touch Pro, thanks for the update! I visited the official home page of Skyfire, and they aren't making any waves on their site or even making clear note of this huge release? Anyway, can't wait to see if it's better than previous beta versions! I am still waiting for Fennec!!!

It's really nice but only problem is it takes up more memory then the previous versions.

segadc said:
It's really nice but only problem is it takes up more memory then the previous versions.
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Oh boy... now my Skyfire wont play any videos on hulu or elsewhere, yet the browser works everywhere else. I have an HTC Touch Pro, I did a hard reset and still no luck... any ideas?

skyfire 1.0 same old same old
try mach 5 browser real vga resolution for people with touch pro
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=67780
that's how skyfire 1.0 should have been

ATT-Half said:
skyfire 1.0 same old same old
try mach 5 browser real vga resolution for people with touch pro
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=67780
that's how skyfire 1.0 should have been
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Mach-5? Never heard of it, did it come out in a stable version before Skyfire? Does it support flash video? I wonder what the issue is with my HTC Touch Pro no longer being able to play flash video on Hulu through Skyfire anymore with version 1.0, even though the internet works fine???

Bizzump...
Excited about Opera Mobile coming out with Flash support...
Once Opera Mobile and Fennec are (both) released, won't they dominate everything else entirely? (As in, no need for Skyfire or anything else)

+ 1 for opera mobile even in actual version 9.5 with no flash!
And with the upcomming 9.7 will be the best browser!

orb3000 said:
+ 1 for opera mobile even in actual version 9.5 with no flash!
And with the upcomming 9.7 will be the best browser!
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Makes me drool the prospect of this version coming out if even the out dated Opera that was baked into my HTC Touch Pro from the factory is LIGHT YEARS ahead of anything else is sheer usability!
Is there any loose time frame on this release of 9.7 with Flash, or is it all speculation at this point???

ATT-Half said:
skyfire 1.0 same old same old
try mach 5 browser real vga resolution for people with touch pro
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=67780
that's how skyfire 1.0 should have been
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Ahhhh, drats!
I don't know if it was something I did, or maybe it was the wrong download link... but from the company home page that developed Mach5, I downloaded the appropriate VGA .cab to my Touch Pro, and although it seemed to work flawlessly, somehow what I had downloaded was a "trial" and worse of all, it was almost all in Japanese!?!?
I couldn't even access streaming video over at Hulu due to the "Hulu only streams content within the United States." HUH? Maybe I missed something...
Has anyone else had this problem?
1. Mach5 looked VERY GOOD (much better than Skyfire, which I ONLY USE exclusively for hulu) but... IS IT STILL FREE?
2. Is Mach5 available for download that will not trip up websites thinking it is an overseas phone or browser program?

New web browser - zetakey browser

On openmarket, looks good and is fast. Looks as though there's no flash support, but only looked at it for a few minutes.
http://www.zetakey.com/download.html

Thanks for the heads up, I'll check it out.

No double tap or pinch zoom either, but their website said open to suggestions for future releases (bombard them with flash )

This is a pretty nice browser. I just found this after SkyFire got canned on Windows Mobile. No tabs like Iris, but less clunky, nicer interface like Dorothy. This appears to be the only Webkit browser for WM (that I could find anyways) still under active development, AND it takes about half the installed space of Iris or Dorothy. As was said above, it's not exactly feature-rich, but it's my favorite new browser. Thumbs up. Maybe I'll try and get it working with the Internet tab via VJBrisk.exe etc.

I'm also in search of a webkit browser for WM 6.5, and I have tried all three: Iris, Dorothy, Zetakey
Iris is still a keeper for now, which displays the google iphone interface correctly. But the problem with Iris is the cache goes out of control - a few webpages later the cache is more than 30 mb! So I only use it for specific sites.
Dorothy looks nice so far, even though it has issues with google iphone interface. The problem is it doesn't display any non-English language, even though all other apps, including opera mini and opera mobile, do just fine.
Zetakey was suppose to be the most promising except a fatal flaw: it conflicts with QuickMenu for some unknown reason. Once Zetakey is running QuickMenu is disabled. Another problem is I can resize the font. It looks like it's sized but it's not, and the default font size is super small.
I guess the only way to get a real webkit browser on HD2 now is to go Android.

wearefree said:
(...) I guess the only way to get a real webkit browser on HD2 now is to go Android.
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Yeah, I thought about that too... dual-booting so I could have a browser with flash support and whatnot. But then I can't use OCT dang it.

I just tried to change the user agent for oepra mobile on HD2, and now most of the mobile sites will return the iphone browser interface. Some of it dosn't display correctly but at least it's better than before. I guess that is one solution.

Bumping the Zetakey threads to let people know there's a new version at Zetakey.com as of 14-Feb-2011. Webkit browser for WM that's still under development that installs into less space than Iris or Dorothy.

Zetakey Browser
Howdy All,
I've been on the lookout for a light, fast browser suitable to my unique needs. Due to Adwords for mobile not rendering on Opera and a host of other browers, I had to install Iris 1.1.9 (plus fix). Unfortunately, Iris didn't impress especially as far as the UI is concerned. I then came across Zetakey which so far ticks all the boxes. I have requested the Flash plugin and await a response and looking at editing certain features. but so far so good. And what a small footprint! I'd say give it a try.
I'm running overclocked (633) Touch HD with Blackstonehenge Rom in case you were wondering.

does it have flash

smungai said:
Howdy All,
I've been on the lookout for a light, fast browser suitable to my unique needs. Due to Adwords for mobile not rendering on Opera and a host of other browers, I had to install Iris 1.1.9 (plus fix). Unfortunately, Iris didn't impress especially as far as the UI is concerned. I then came across Zetakey which so far ticks all the boxes. I have requested the Flash plugin and await a response and looking at editing certain features. but so far so good. And what a small footprint! I'd say give it a try.
I'm running overclocked (633) Touch HD with Blackstonehenge Rom in case you were wondering.
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Are you in the right forum? This is an HD2 forum, and the CPU runs at 1Ghz stock. What would overclocked (633) mean?