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How can I tell if I'm really on EDGE or not.

Ok I have a Cing 8125 with the TNT.1933 rom. IPL and SPL are both 2.26 GSM is 02.19.11.
Often but not always when the unit boots up it displays not an E but a G icon. Performance appears to be the same. I have to turn off the phone in CM and re enable it for the phone to properly work and display the EDGE E. I know that the E is just a registry hack. So am I connected to EDGE or not. How do I tell and how do I force it to connect to edge on boot up.
Thanks,
nline.

the easiest way of finding out if you are on edge or not is the download speed whilst on the net. If you are downloading a file on standard gsm (g) then you can achieve a maximum speed of say 160kbs if you are on edge you can have double that.
As for getting the phone to automatically select edge, it wont, and it cant be done with a hack either, as, if there is no decent edge signal, for it to grab, it cant use it. Same as if you had no mobile signal to make a call , you couldn't hack the registry to make it find one.

do wizards have edge capabilities then?

scousemartin said:
the easiest way of finding out if you are on edge or not is the download speed whilst on the net. If you are downloading a file on standard gsm (g) then you can achieve a maximum speed of say 160kb if you are on edge you can have double that.
As for getting the phone to automatically select edge, it wont, and it cant be done with a hack either, as, if there is no decent edge signal, for it to grab, it cant use it. Same as if you had no mobile signal to make a call , you couldn't hack the registry to make it find one.
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Ok so why isn't the phone finding an edge signal on boot up? After it boots up I can turn off and turn back on the phone and it finds the edge signal everytime. I can understand poor signal but I don't think it is the issue here. Better radio rom?

Yes, absolutely (with registry hack on official ROM, or use any unofficial ROM).
Wizard only display "E" logo when the network and stations support it. If you are using a network that doesn't support EDGE GPRS connection, the logo still shows "G" regardless the registry setting.
Maximum speed for non-EDGE GPRS connection is 80kbps (i.e. 10kb/s), so if you are getting speed of more than 10kb/s, then you are definitely connected to EDGE-enabled GPRS network.
However sometimes bad networks (such as the mobile operator I am now using, the New Word Mobility) still get speed of <10kb/s when connected to EDGE-enabled GPRS network, so it is mainly up to operator.

[REQ] Can I stop data when roaming?

Hi all,
I know this is probably a strange request and so I'll have to give a bit of background. Recently I changed my mobile provider to 3. 3 have their own telephone coverage in certain areas and if you are outside those areas you go on roaming with Telstra. The issue is 3 charges huge $$ when roaming on Telstras network for data (voice and SMS is fine).
My question is that my TP obviously knows when I'm roaming as it displays the service provider as 'Roaming'. Is there a program that will stop my data (and only data) use when I change over to the 'Roaming' service and activate again when I am in the 3 network?
Thanks for you help!
Trent

Hi, another aussie 3 user here...
I agree with the TS as this is one of the major problem we as 3mobile user face, is there any kind soul out there that could help us with this as my knowledge on PDA is limited.. Thanks for any1 who is willing to help in advance.

With the Sprint TP, I can go to
Settings>Phone>Services>Roaming
and set an option called "Data roam guard" that allows me to choose whether or not data connections will be allowed while roaming. I'm not sure if this option is available for you, but give it a try.

I myself would like to have an automated function for this. Until then I will have to manually switch to my dummy data connection.

Normally it doesn't connect on roaming.
and if it will, it asks first.
isn't this the case with you?

I have an app called NoData
Works really well and lets you enable/disable any data connections

raveenash said:
I have an app called NoData
Works really well and lets you enable/disable any data connections
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I know about the NoData. However, you still have to enable/disable data connection manually. I'd like to have it automatically disabled when I am roaming.
For example my IM client (QIP) does not ask me whether it should connect or not. So it is very easy to have an "accident" with data connection :-(

I'm another Three user in Australia, looking for something like this as well. I often use my phone while on a tram and it might switch from 3G to Roaming while I'm browsing the web. I'd like for it to warn me so I don't download heaps while roaming (I think it's $1.65 per MB or something crazy like that).

Hi, another 3 Australia user here...and yes, I've been waiting on this sort of function for years now.
Part of the problem here is that 3's "roaming" is not actual roaming in the traditional sense. Normally, the phone detects a roaming signal when on a foreign network and displays a roaming indicator (looks like a little triangle) at the top of the screen. You'll find this is the case if you ever take your phone overseas and use International Roaming. Telstra's network does not give you this signal, and hence even the few roaming aware apps we have (e.g. pocket outlook) don't detect when you're on Telstra's network and turn off their automatic schedules.
The best way I could think of to do this automatically is with an app that detects either Telstra's network ID values (the phone detects these and translates them to the text "Roaming" at the top right of today, much as it translates the real value "3Telstra" to plain old "3" - 3 and Telstra share the 2100MHz network in a joint venture, much as Vodafone and Optus share theirs...you will see the real value if ever you use a non-3 rom) or the network connection type and then runs that NoData app (I haven't seen that before...credit to the guy who posted it).
I've often though some sort of even responder app would be useful. Something like Gyrator, except that read network status instead of physical hardware status. Anyone know of anything like this?
Then you could set up something like:
* On detect EDGE/GSM switch off data connections
* On detect HSDPA/3G switch on data connections
OR
* On detect network ID of Telstra's GSM network switch off data
* On detect network ID of 3's/Telstra's 2100MHz 3G network switch on data

Look at phoneAlarm.

caeci11ius said:
Part of the problem here is that 3's "roaming" is not actual roaming in the traditional sense. Normally, the phone detects a roaming signal when on a foreign network and displays a roaming indicator (looks like a little triangle) at the top of the screen.
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My HTC TP says 'H' up the top when I'm in 3 coverage and 'E' when I'm roaming. Just near the top it says '3' when I'm in a Three area or 'Roaming' when I'm not...
Don't you have the same phone? What does yours say?

Vanstra said:
Look at phoneAlarm.
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I think that perhaps paying 15+ pounds (around AU$40) just to switch off a data connection is a bit steep...any other suggestions around?

grandinferno said:
My HTC TP says 'H' up the top when I'm in 3 coverage and 'E' when I'm roaming. Just near the top it says '3' when I'm in a Three area or 'Roaming' when I'm not...
Don't you have the same phone? What does yours say?
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My point exactly. You will not see the real roaming indicator in Australia as you never actually roam here. While three call it "roaming" when your phone is on Telstra, the way they have set it up prevents the phone from knowing this is the case so the few roaming aware programs will not be able to adjust for it.
The phone shows G/E when on Telstra as Telstra provide a GSM/EDGE network. It shows 3G/H when on Three's network as Three are providing a 3G/HSDPA network. Hence, you can work out if you're roaming by looking at this even though it's not actually a roaming indicator.
If you look at your home screen though you will see either a "3" in the top right corner of the clock or "Roaming". That's what I was talking about before. It's not a roaming indicator either; it simply shows the network name (with a translation applied from the actual network ID in this case).

thanks caeci11ius, I'm glad you could explain this is better detail then my original statement. I am presuming that this form of roaming and charge to customers is quite rare.

caeci11ius said:
I think that perhaps paying 15+ pounds (around AU$40) just to switch off a data connection is a bit steep...any other suggestions around?
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You wanted a program which can automatically switch band when roaming.
This is the only program I know which can do that.

Program to disable Data when E or G is shown on taskbar
caeci11ius said:
My point exactly. You will not see the real roaming indicator in Australia as you never actually roam here. While three call it "roaming" when your phone is on Telstra, the way they have set it up prevents the phone from knowing this is the case so the few roaming aware programs will not be able to adjust for it.
The phone shows G/E when on Telstra as Telstra provide a GSM/EDGE network. It shows 3G/H when on Three's network as Three are providing a 3G/HSDPA network. Hence, you can work out if you're roaming by looking at this even though it's not actually a roaming indicator.
If you look at your home screen though you will see either a "3" in the top right corner of the clock or "Roaming". That's what I was talking about before. It's not a roaming indicator either; it simply shows the network name (with a translation applied from the actual network ID in this case).
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This is Exactly What I need Also. I have looked everywhere? I Dont believe anyone else has come across this issue before and has written something to fix it.
Need a program to detect when the Phone is in 3 or H area (displayed at top) and disable DATA ONLY when G or E is displayed. My work around at the moment is to select HSDPA only connection but this makes the Voice Calls dropout whenever I cannot recieve Three's Network. Can anyone help. There is many people who would be in this same boat.
Wombat

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I just wrote a script to keep you connected to 3G or HSDPA networks only. Tryout
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I hope it is what your looking for
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Wombat

Enabling "Band" Phone Settings Tab on Rogers iPAQ 910

I've been trying to find a way to disable 3G on my new HP iPAQ 910c I got through Rogers Wireless a few weeks ago. I find the battery drains pretty quickly on the phone, and from what I've read forcing it down to GSM when I don't need the 3G speed will help that alot.
My problem is that when I go to the Phone Settings, there's no "Band" tab in which to designate that I want to limit to GSM. From everything I've read the tab *should* be there, but it's not. What tabs are there are the following:
Phone
Security
Services
Network
TTY
PIN2
AOC
More
Doing some searching, I came across this post from last year that addressed a similar issue with an HTC Diamond on the Rogers network.
raidendb wrote:
Just want to share this. But I'm pretty sure this has been tackled in the forums already.
Rogers branded HTC Diamond doesn't have the option to turn of 3G through band selection. I found this registry hack to enable band selection and now I can turn 3G off.
Rogers default registry - OFF
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:0
Registry tweak to enable band changes
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:1
Now you can go to >start>settings>phone>band tab and change band settings to your choice. I switched mine to just use GSM instead of auto which always connects on 3G.
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The issue with that suggested fix is that I don't have a "PhoneSetting" key under \HKLM\Software\OEM (or anywhere for that matter) on my iPAQ. I tried adding it, and then adding the "ShowUMTSBandPage" dword, but that didn't seem to have any effect (even after a soft-reset).
If anyone has any ideas on how I can enable the Band phone settings tab, or otherwise turn off 3G on occasion on my phone, it'd be greatly appreciated.
This one time, at band tab...

try DHR Bandswitch

Thanks. I installed it and it seems to kindof work. I've posted my questions about it in the Bandswitch thread.

Congrats.

3G SUCKS!!!

hi guys i recently upgraded from the at&t tilt to the fuze. on the tilt i had the hsdpa network unlocked via the app "kaiser tweaks", i tried it on my fuze with no luck. without using a cooked rom is there any app i can get to unlock hsdpa?

hsdpa isnt locked out, its just hidden under the umts (3g) icon. theres a registry tweak to disable this to get the h icon back. theres 1 registy entry that disables hsdpa (already enabled) and 1 registry entry that disables the icon. im not sure what they are, ill look around for it. hsupa is disabled by default how ever on some roms. setting HKLM\Software\HTC\AdvancedNetwork\SupportHSUPA to 1 should enable it. dunno which roms have it enabled and which dont.

Just bought a second hand HD2 - no 3G Modem

Hi
I just bought a second hand unlocked HD2
I am on Orange. The phone will pick up 3G but I need to sync with Exchange. At work we have our own APN options. So , I have go into the connection tab but from some reason , there is no Cellular 3G,GPRS option, only GPRS. The phone does sync, but I don't think I am getting a 3G connection
With my previous phone Diamond 2, when I did the same thing, the 3G was an option
Am I missing something?

Which version of HD2 did you buy? Did you even check if your HD2 3g bandwidth is compatible with orange?

Not sure I understand your question , but I believe I have a
HD2 T8585
Did you even check if your HD2 3g bandwidth is compatible with orange?
Others at work, have a HD2, so it will work on 3G. I was unaware that there was different types of HD2!!

as long as your basically anywhere but america the 8585 should work (dont quote me on this, obviously there are others) ie uk, europe, south africa should work. I believe australia has their own band specific version as well...
id suggest you go to the rom site, install an original rom, and see if it works afer you run an auto configure in the network settings.
Alternatively, try flashing a new radio rom and see if it works. the 2.07.50 works well for me in SA. some others also only give me EDGE.

I don't know how you have it in your country, but here in Denmark the providers have downloadable 3G settings to their networks that we have to pull down to get it to work...
Unless of course we set it up manually.
Maybe you haven't gotten the setup from Orange?

Hey there, you should check your band settings:
Go to settings > connections > network advanced > in the first tab you can choose "off" or "only HSDPA" or "HSDPA/HSUPA". click on the last option for 3G band.
My former devices (X1i and Hermes) you had band-settings for GSM or 3G but on the HD2 i cannot find it, so this option is changed in WM6.5 i guess.