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so can anyone tell me if I am right? Here in north america we are just starting to get UMTS in some areas. And I have been waiting for the universal wanting to get one. but our north american umts network is on the 1900 mhz band mode and the rest of the world uses the 2100 mhz band mode for umts. that meens that the universal will have its umts radio on 2100. So does that meen it wont work here as a umts device and I will be stuck with just gprs?? if so I just cant buy it
Hi,
AFAIK, all UMTS phones, so the Universal, are GPS phones as well. So, form a technical point of view you can use the phone whereever there is reception. At least here in germany,the GPS service provider are the same as the UMTS service provider. So, if you leave a UMTS zone the phone automatically logs into the GPS zone. I would expect that it is the same in the US.
rgds
marco
EDIT: Now I have read your message completely and see, that I provided an answer that does not match your question 2nd try: I would expect that if you get your UMTS device via an US provider that it matches its UMTS band. But, without coverage you are stuck with GPRS/GPS, thats right
ARGH, that sucks. because Im sure that by the time they make a north american universal it will be outdated anyway :roll:
I tend to agree. I thought that with UMTS whis crazy frequency problem would disappear finally....
I just checked on the german t-mobile page, which has the Universal, T-Mobile MDA Pro as they call it, on their page.
Unfortunately there is no UMTS frequency mentioned. Maybe there is one generic UMTS setting which allows different frequencies to be used, and all UMTS devices support all the frequencies?
OK, that might be a bit optimistic, I agree ...
Edit:
I got interested and checked for the UMTS frequency situation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS
So, even with the special US situation, the UMTS frequencies are not connected to contries but comminucation methods (FDD, TDD). So, as long as the UMTS implementation in the US does not differ from the ITU standards, you should be able to use the Universal in the US. But even the above mentioned wiki page is not clear on the situation, so probably you will have to wait and see ...
Oh well I guess I will just have to wait for the wizard or maybee even (Forgive me) a non htc device???
if the wizard has a slower prosesor than my magician I just cant buy it either. and I have my magician tweaked up to 520mhz
I know this is off-topic
I have my magician tweaked up to 520mhz
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what program are you using for that...??
I tried PHM and it hang :evil:
then I tried XCPUScalar.. and it worked, I could overclock it to 520 MHz, but when I tried Beta-Player to benchmark the device.... it said 416 MHz..
and when I used lower speeds.. Beta-player and the XCPUScalar gave the same result
so I could only under-clock my device, but I couldn't overclock it...
are you sure that your device is running at 520 MHz?? and if so, is it stable??and any noticeable improvement in performance??
thanks in advance
Heres the deal my friends in the US.
And btw....its really not good news at all....
http://pocketpcdubai.com/index2.htm
Hi all I have a British Gas Panasonic CF-P2 Toughbook phone.
It uses Windows Mobile 2003 SE PDA edition with phone.
http://toughbook.wikispaces.com/CF-P2
The units are either gsm 850 and 1900 or quad band 2g.
There is not much information on the units.
They are all unlocked and are capable if class 10 gprs (FAST i know).
anyone have any ideas what data settings I would use for ATT usa?
The phone is really for when I travel and go on scuba trips as it is fully rugged. Data is really not a big deal But I must have it working. any help would help.
BTW these units were made in 2006 by panasonic just for British Gas Using us and canada gsm bands (however people say they work over in europe to so it is understood that why they were listed as gsm 850 and 1900 they were probably quad band). the unit does work here in us on both 850 and 1900 used it all day on tuesday.
I have not been able to find much information about this at all, and totally forgot about it.
My 3G coverage is absolutely **** at home, but 2G is pretty decent. According to the coverage map on O2's site, I should have good 2G and 3G indoors and outdoors, but as I said, I'm lucky to get even 1 bar inside.
My question is this, how do I know what spectrum the Desire S is using? I know it supports 900 MHz 3G, but how do I check if it's using it or not? Or is there any way to force it? Because I haven't seen any improvement since the 3G900 switched on, is there anything to do with the radio perhaps?
Bump !?!?!?!?!
It's a matter of checking what networks are appearing and working out from there which one is which frequency spectrum, for me I have a Telstra Mobile (GSM), Telstra Mobile 3G (850hz) and 3Telstra (2100hz).
Scan and see what networks appear, then even Google their individual names and see if you get any responses as to what spectrum they are.
zeekiz said:
It's a matter of checking what networks are appearing and working out from there which one is which frequency spectrum, for me I have a Telstra Mobile (GSM), Telstra Mobile 3G (850hz) and 3Telstra (2100hz).
Scan and see what networks appear, then even Google their individual names and see if you get any responses as to what spectrum they are.
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I know that my network (O2 UK) recently activated their 3G/HSPA services on the 900 Mhz band (in addition to the 2100 Mhz), in order to extend coverage.
See this: http://blog.o2.co.uk/home/2011/05/superfast-900mhz-3g-explained.html
My question is that because I have seen no difference, even in the major city centres listed there, is there a way to find out if my phone is actually trying to use the 900 Mhz band for 3G or is it just staying on 2100 Mhz, how to check, any way to force?.. etc etc etc
Hey Guys,
I have a Motorola RAZR HD XT925 which was sourced from Rogers Canada. I was wondering how I can check the devices LTE frequencies? Is there any engineering code and/or menu that would assist with this? This device apparently supports LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 or LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600 according to GSM Arena. I am wanting to use the LTE 1800MHz frequency in Australia, though cannot get it to connect.
I have tried the following:
Searching for networks manually / letting the device select them automatically
Toggling between 3G only and Automatic (4G/3G/2G)
I definitely have the correct APN settings configured (for Telstra in Australia)
Data is enabled, the SIM card connects to 4G in another mobile
Any assistance would be appreciated, in finding out which LTE network frequencies this device supports.
MarrkDaviid said:
Hey Guys,
I have a Motorola RAZR HD XT925 which was sourced from Rogers Canada. I was wondering how I can check the devices LTE frequencies? Is there any engineering code and/or menu that would assist with this? This device apparently supports LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 or LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600 according to GSM Arena. I am wanting to use the LTE 1800MHz frequency in Australia, though cannot get it to connect.
I have tried the following:
Searching for networks manually / letting the device select them automatically
Toggling between 3G only and Automatic (4G/3G/2G)
I definitely have the correct APN settings configured (for Telstra in Australia)
Data is enabled, the SIM card connects to 4G in another mobile
Any assistance would be appreciated, in finding out which LTE network frequencies this device supports.
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Do not rely on GSM Arena those guys are rookies.
The Rogers RAZR HD has LTE 700/1700/2100 via the rogers website.
MarrkDaviid said:
Hey Guys,
I have a Motorola RAZR HD XT925 which was sourced from Rogers Canada. I was wondering how I can check the devices LTE frequencies? Is there any engineering code and/or menu that would assist with this? This device apparently supports LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 or LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600 according to GSM Arena. I am wanting to use the LTE 1800MHz frequency in Australia, though cannot get it to connect.
I have tried the following:
Searching for networks manually / letting the device select them automatically
Toggling between 3G only and Automatic (4G/3G/2G)
I definitely have the correct APN settings configured (for Telstra in Australia)
Data is enabled, the SIM card connects to 4G in another mobile
Any assistance would be appreciated, in finding out which LTE network frequencies this device supports.
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XT925: (international)
Secondary Cellular Networks: LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20)
From what I've read, B3 is Australia's LTE band, so it is supported, but it might be turned off in roger's radio.
Have you tried installing the firmware for Telstra? It's available here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/van...25_A045_WIG149790_Service1FF_fastboot.xml.zip from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943879 Maybe switching to your provider's firmware will fix the LTE issue.
Hi
Can you please provide an update. Did you manage to flash the Testra fw and latch in to the LTE 1800 band?
Coz i would like to buy a phone and do the same thing as you. I would not buy if you did not suceed.
MarrkDaviid said:
Hey Guys,
I have a Motorola RAZR HD XT925 which was sourced from Rogers Canada. I was wondering how I can check the devices LTE frequencies? Is there any engineering code and/or menu that would assist with this? This device apparently supports LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 or LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600 according to GSM Arena. I am wanting to use the LTE 1800MHz frequency in Australia, though cannot get it to connect.
I have tried the following:
Searching for networks manually / letting the device select them automatically
Toggling between 3G only and Automatic (4G/3G/2G)
I definitely have the correct APN settings configured (for Telstra in Australia)
Data is enabled, the SIM card connects to 4G in another mobile
Any assistance would be appreciated, in finding out which LTE network frequencies this device supports.
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Hi. This is a good source here in Australia. Hopefully is updated and current. http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/mobile_phone_frequencies
Note, however, that LTE is really new here and not yet well implemented. I live in Sydney, but I'm outside of the LTE network at home. I'd have to travel closer to the business district to get it. I think its implemented around the airport as well. LTE is still a work in progress and Telstra is ahead of the game with the other telcos, but you're going to want to be able to connect to their "Next G" or 3.5 G to fallback on otherwise youre going to get 2G.
In any case, you want to make sure your APN settings are correct as well. There is loads of misinformation about that. You can have Telstra set them for you (or at least it worked on my Galaxy S2, haven't tried with this phone since I got it from their store). Try this link and see if it the correct one: http://www.configure.telstra.com.au/telstra/index.jsp
On my Galaxy S2, I had read lots of documentation and had things working but found that after going through a Telstra automated thing (I think the above link), that it set my APNs for me and I ended up with better speed and signal.
Just found this from their site as well concerning their 4G and 3G frequencies: http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/coverage-networks/networks/
The 2100 frequency on their 3G or NextG (3.5G) may have been turned off at this point; I don't remember. They may still be using it for legacy phones and people on bring your own phone plans but I beleive they had wanted to either shut it down or sell it to another carrier. I don't recall that my SGS2 got 850 ... I just noticed there's tabs on the Telstra page that explains their coverage. Click on them and that's more accurate than what I just typed
I suspect your problem is that you may not be in an LTE covered area. Either that or its your APN settings. Let us know how it goes.
EDIT: Sorry, I didn't read your post properly that the SIM works in another device. If it isn't your APN settings, you can take it to a Telstra store and ask them if they know what the problem is. On occasion they do know what their talking about. You can point them at this web page if need be and it might encourage them to look a little deeper:
http://www.morecellphone.com/compar...d-xt925-vs-motorola-droid-razr-hd-xt926/39060
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pandabear said:
Can you please provide an update. Did you manage to flash the Testra fw and latch in to the LTE 1800 band?
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I no longer have this device, and unfortunately never tried flashing the Telstra firmware on the device.
PantsDownJedi said:
you can take it to a Telstra store and ask them if they know what the problem is. On occasion they do know what their talking about.
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The device that I had was sourced from Rogers Canada, and didn't support LTE 1800MHz out of the box. They wouldn't have been able to help.
PantsDownJedi said:
The 2100 frequency on their 3G or NextG (3.5G) may have been turned off at this point; I don't remember. They may still be using it for legacy phones and people on bring your own phone plans but I beleive they had wanted to either shut it down or sell it to another carrier.
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Telstra's 3G 2100MHz network was part of 3GIS, an agreement between Telstra and VHA, which ended on August 31st. Telstra still uses the 3G 2100MHz network frequency, it is actually part of their Next G network now, they however do not advertise this, as very few sites are still using this network frequency, and it is far more important to have a device that supports 3G 850MHz. Telstra lost quite a few 3G 2100MHz sites when 3GIS closed, although all of the areas would have had 3G 850MHz anyhow, so it was not really a big deal.
Hello,
I've got a LG Phoenix 2(K371) phone that I bought from Bestbuy and unlocked through AT&T
The phone is supposed to support the UMTS B1(2100 Mhz) frequency (as stated in specs).
I'm in North Africa right now for a business trip and unfortunately I wasn't able to get any 3G data with the local carrier that uses the UMTS 2100 Mhz frequency, I'm stuck with only 2G while my other phone works just fine.
I tried to change my Network Mode from 4G to 3G but the Network mode menu is missing!!!!!!
My questions are:
1- Does the K371 really supports the UMTS 2100 Mhz frequency ?
2- How can I change my Network mode from 4G/Lte to 3g/WCDMA?
Thanks
Did you ever get this sorted out? I am in Germany and can only get 2G also.
Same here in the UK! Only 2G.
My understanding is that either the official specifications of the phone are wrong - it doesn't support the HSDPA frequency of 2100 MHz, or (most likely) this frequency is disabled in the phone software settings since [email protected] doesn't use this frequency in the US. In any case it is very frustrating: I bought this phone convinced it is going to work while I am travelling in Europe, but obviously it doesn't as 2G data connection is useless.
Same problem in SE Asia. Phone doesn't have the right LTE bands but HSPC should work. Only getting 2G. No option in the hidden menu to change the modem RAT settings that I can see. *#546368#*371#
Anyone have any luck using the k371 overseas?
Same here...
I tried every single method I know in hopes that I could root the phone, but no luck!!!
I believe at&t disabled the said frequencies....
Our only bet is a proper root, and a custom rom..
any update on no UMTS 2100Mhz?
any solutoion on this issue?
I have found a solution. I am using it outside the US. I contacted my cellular provider, gave them the phone name (LG K371) and they sent me a text message with automatic settings for their data network. As soon as I opened it, I got a message like "data settings have been updated" and now it works on 3G and 4G without any issues. You may also be able to find these data configuration settings on your cell service provider's web site.
Seriously???
Please let me know is it AIRTEL service? since i am from INDIA.
we have the same problem in 2 mobiles..
Hmmm
I tried of calling and received setting for MMS , GPRS, INERNET but still i m seeing 2G symbol as E - edge detection
Please help me
Hi this is sainath
am also facing same problem, any one got solutions
please give reply.
tromal said:
Hello,
I've got a LG Phoenix 2(K371) phone that I bought from Bestbuy and unlocked through AT&T
The phone is supposed to support the UMTS B1(2100 Mhz) frequency (as stated in specs).
I'm in North Africa right now for a business trip and unfortunately I wasn't able to get any 3G data with the local carrier that uses the UMTS 2100 Mhz frequency, I'm stuck with only 2G while my other phone works just fine.
I tried to change my Network Mode from 4G to 3G but the Network mode menu is missing!!!!!!
My questions are:
1- Does the K371 really supports the UMTS 2100 Mhz frequency ?
2- How can I change my Network mode from 4G/Lte to 3g/WCDMA?
Thanks
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Sorry for a late reply, but here's the real scoop about the LG K371 (AT&T)
First, being a "cheap" LG phone, there are very few bands actually included, and they only cover the main (not all) AT&T US frequencies, therefore it's no surprise that doesn't work on all overseas carriers. Again, they are covering only major US bands, and despite what it shows on the box or specs it may not be always true. B1 (2,100Mhz) band has different sub-bands, therefore it doesn't mean that the US B1 will work on an overseas B1, let alone the air-interface (2G/3G/4G/LTE) may not all be supported even if this sub-band exists.
Second, being that it's an AT&T phone, they are knows to load firmware with major restrictions for band selection called RAT Restrictions, which cannot be undone unless you can reflash it with a non-customized firmware, but you can't do that either due to the locked bootloader. A better option is to always go with the un-customized or Tmobile K7/K8 because they always have a lot more bands enabled than the AT&T version. Better yet, go with a Samsung which have more bands even on the AT&T models.
Bottom line, "cheap" phones along with AT&T restrictions will not work everywhere, despite the specs, and there's nothing you can do about it.
And my favorite old adage is "You get what you pay for!" LOL