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Second Life working on Windows Mobile

Official client from http://www.vollee.com/secondlife
If you have trouble downloading, choose following version. I have removed AT&T signature (the client is in Java). Works on HTC Kaiser (non AT&T). You have to switch to landscape to play.
http://rapidshare.com/files/120027655/second_life_wm.rar

Tried it on an ETEN X800 and get the message "We cannot authenticate your player".
Also it doesn't strech to 640x480 so only part of the screen is shown.

Critical_Impact said:
Tried it on an ETEN X800 and get the message "We cannot authenticate your player".
Also it doesn't strech to 640x480 so only part of the screen is shown.
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You have to fill out their form to get yours TOKEN and OUSN (phone number). Then you can replace these parameters in JAD.

sorry to bump this thread but the rapidshare version does not work. it keeps saying cannot connect

If you try to visit the manufacturer's website you will notice that Vollee does not exist anymore.
The software was not an SL client, but actually a terminal-software. The actuall SL-Client was running at Vollee's server and it would just stream the image to your PDA, receiving in return your inputs.
This is regarded as being the future of gaming - you carry a small client, while the game itself is hosted and rendered at the manufacturer.
The obvious side effect is that you need to pay for the service and there is practically no way around that.
You can try to setup something similar, though, by installing SL on your home PC, together with a VNC server. You need to adjust the screensize proeprly and then you access your PC through a PocketPC version of VNC...
Cheers,
vma

out of all the vnc clients and servers ive tried the best for windows mobile to use for secondlife would be the remote desktop however on a lot of versions of windows it wont work unless you have a professional version of windows. and sound does work as well for it so u can hear voice but u will need a fast computer and phone for it to be an optimal experience

Remote Desktop only allows 16 bit color resolution, while Secondlife only starts if you are on 32 bit color resolution. Back then I did not find any way of getting around this, except using VNC instead.
Cheers,
vma

hey
help im new at this but i would love to play second life on my windows mobile phone can you explain how this would be done step by step?
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out of all the vnc clients and servers ive tried the best for windows mobile to use for secondlife would be the remote desktop however on a lot of versions of windows it wont work unless you have a professional version of windows. and sound does work as well for it so u can hear voice but u will need a fast computer and phone for it to be an optimal experience
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Yes i would like to know how i can run 32-Bit for my remote desktop on my HTC HD2
From what i have read i have only seen posts that allow you to go too 24-bit on XP.
But i have not managed to get that working though. My remote desktop on my Mobile phone still only allows me to go to 16-bit which is just horrible looking and doesnt allow allot of things too work.
Maybe there is a alternative program that does allow 32-bit?
Or a way to get my windows standard remote desktop to go that high?
Hopefully you guys know a way to get this working!
Cheers

You can't use Windows Remote Desktop Connection (aka RDP).
You MUST use VNC.
Install a VNC Server like UltraVNC or TightVNC on your PC and a VNC client on youer Windows Mobile phone.
Let me tell you upfront: it sucks. Too much lag, constant crashes of VNC on the mobile phone, too small a screen and the lack of keyboard makes the experience a really bad one. Much better to use Messenger straight away.
Cheers,
vma

Please can someone upload the file again? the two link are not more available, I woul like try second life on my PDA, thank you

vma said:
The software was not an SL client, but actually a terminal-software. The actuall SL-Client was running at Vollee's server and it would just stream the image to your PDA, receiving in return your inputs.
This is regarded as being the future of gaming - you carry a small client, while the game itself is hosted and rendered at the manufacturer.
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I really can't wait until stream gaming is improved, no longer would game development for mobile be entirely OS/hardware dependent.

I want only use chat of second life on my pda how can I download the software, please?

Android vs Windows Mobile - Functionality

Just a quick question!
How do you think Android will stack up to Windows Mobile when it comes to functionality? Android will certainly look better and be much more finger friendly,etc, but will it be closer to the limits of the iPhone when it comes to copy paste (Android has copy paste, but dont know if it works everywhere), email, contacts, and such? Will Windows Mobile fans be dissapointed or feel crippled when using Android?
Ive played around with the Android SDK a bit, but i havent really gotten a definite feeling if the functionality suits my needs
Cheers!

Yes I am also looking for some forum information on this matter. I would like to know the opinion of anyone who has had a hands on experience with both OS's. Found a nice article in endgadget but I like user opinions better.

I definetly want to know too!
Here is what I want to know for the Droid...
Can you use it as wifi router?
Does it do push hotmail instantly?
Is there logmein support?
Does it work with orb?

i'm moving to Android when Acer A1 liquid is out, then Sony X10a.
Android got free gps navigation with realtime traffic! nice!

segadc said:
I definetly want to know too!
Here is what I want to know for the Droid...
Can you use it as wifi router?
Does it do push hotmail instantly?
Is there logmein support?
Does it work with orb?
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1. Yes
2. No, not that I'm aware of anyway, but you can forward Hotmail email to your Google Account to receive it instantly.
3. Yes
4. Yes
Anything else anyone else wants to know then feel free to post here and I'll do my best to answer it in a reasonable time.
I swapped my Touch Diamond for my G1 and I can do everything that I could do on my windows mobile (although I didn't have WinMo for long)

I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile. Android is approaching windows mobile when you think of the ability to flash other OS versions and wide range of applications on an open system. But windows mobile gives me true multitasking ability like a desktop computer, and windows mobile can be edited and programmed to be something else. Through haret windows mobile phones can run haret and even android.

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I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile........
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Yes I'm heading this way too. Android has been quite a disappointment to me. Initially I was very happy with my new Milestone that replaced an HTC Touch Pro running WM6.1. The performance difference was staggering, there really is no comparison between them. However I just find more and more things missing from Android/Milestone note this list is just a braindump, some of it's in Android, some of it's the packaging for the Milestone, I'm guessing you can tell the difference.
No Outlook Integration, I really think that should have been there out of the box, there are third party apps that i've used with varying degrees of success.
Restricted Video viewing. I used to use coreplayer to view just about anything on WM without any conversions. Now through restricted information on APIs needed to port CorePlayer to ANdroid I'm stuck with a lengthy conversion process when I want to put video on the phone.
No contact lookup while dialing from the keypad, I really miss that.
No note taking, or word editing apps built in.
Can't save attachments in email - wtf!! this is basic functionality, everytime I want to view a word file attached to an email I have to wait while it downloads form my mail server.
Can't foreward some attachment types - crazy crazy
Can't edit original text in replies or forwards - this is basic functionality missing
Cut and paste is awful - ranging from not implemented, to badly implemented depending on where you try to use it.
Can't switch an sd card without rebooting - I don't know if this is milestone specific but you actually can't remove the sd card without removing the battery.
Tethering, I'm using PDANet, I don't think there is a WMWifiRouter equivalent without rooting the phone? So I am using PDANets blueTooth Dun service, much inferior to WMWifiRouters Personal Area Network implementation.
Can't charge from my exisiting Solar charger (Power Monkey Explorer), thats a pain in the ass, not sure why it doesn't work.
Facebook Contact integration, it claims to have it but it just doesnt work
Logmein doesnt work for me, nor do citrix support it for gotomypc
I'll add more as and when.

dashauns said:
I've had all of the mobile OS's and always come back to windows mobile. Android is approaching windows mobile when you think of the ability to flash other OS versions and wide range of applications on an open system. But windows mobile gives me true multitasking ability like a desktop computer, and windows mobile can be edited and programmed to be something else. Through haret windows mobile phones can run haret and even android.
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can you explain what you mean with real multitasking? what miss you on android?

Hi guys new to the forum and my first post
So I have both OS I just got a HTC HD2 Winmo 6.5 and a HTC g1 Android
To me the Android is a lot lot easyer to use then Winmo. And the Markit place is the best I have used. But the HD2 looks nice the layout is top notch but when I go behind the HTC front skine and in to the Winmo I get lost and it all so looks like my winmo PDA witch I dont like.
As you can tell im not realy in to phones that much so dont know the correct names for the stuff im talking about lol.
If I could have Android under the Htc HD2 skin I would be happy

WM6 Remote Desktop Server over internet?

I'm looking for a remote desktop program that will allow remote login to a wm6 phone ie running a remote desktop server on the phone (not client). Basically I have 2 - wm 6 phones and I'd like to be be able to control one of them remotely either via my main phone or pc over the internet. I'll keep searching, but if anyone can point me in the right direction, that would be appreciated. I have read multiple articales about a Real VNC solution but their website yields nothing.
Thanks

This flavour of RealVNC works fine for me...
http://www.efon.cn/

what viewer do i need for this vnc server?

stepw said:
This flavour of RealVNC works fine for me...
http://www.efon.cn/
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Yes what client do you use with that? Also how has it been working for you? Reliable, fast etc? Looks like very limited support and documentation for that project. I actually didn't realize the CE software can run on WM.

Ok so I figured it out (I feel kinda dumb asking what client to use). So I downloaded the real vnc viewer and got it working. The only thing I'd really like to do now is get some sort of dyndns type service going on the phone as restarting it changes the ip everytime.

Remote desktop software

Hey guys, Does anyone know if there's any decent FREE apps for the android that i can use for remote assistance? i work in IT and this would be very useful to me but im not willing to fork out cash just yet.
I know you can use VNC but this means installing software on client machines and setting that software upm which is no use to me.
thanks in advance guys

I have tried most and there are no good free RDC clients. (I started to write one myself but it was not very fun so I abandoned it.)
I would suggest biting the bullet and buying xtralogic's Remote Desktop client. At $19.95 it is the most expensive option but the controls on it are the best IMHO.
If you want cheaper ($7.98) there is Remote RDP by Walter Yongtao Wang but i find the controls are not as intuitive.
I know you said you do not want to fork out cash yet but the reality is if you want a good RDC client then for now you are going to have to pay for it. In the grand scheme of things $20 is a minor investment for the aggravation saved.

PhoneMyPC is the best one I've tried and I've played with almost all of them. Multitouch zooming makes it closest to what logmein ignition is on the iPhone. I think until logmein comes out with an Android app, it's the best bet even though it costs a few dollars.

yeah , i also use PhoneMyPC , works great , no problems

I have to agree. PhoneMyPC is extremely (surprizingly) fast and worked better than the RDP or VNC solutions from my testing.
I was very skeptical that it could perform well, but... call me a believer now.

Thanks for the answers guys, I'll try PhoneMyPc out first.
One more question, I would also like to Wake computers via LAN, Do these software's have the ability to send the "magic" WOL packets to wake a system up?
This is another feature i would find extremely useful.

Clearly my brain was not working last night. I misread what you were asking for. PhoneMyPC is nice but requires a client install.
If your goal is end client support and you do not want to require them to install an application you might consider UltraVNC single click for the client ( http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html )+ a VNC viewer on android. While it will not perform as well as PhoneMyPC it has the benefit of being a zero foot print solution and works well in situations where the client may not want/be able to install applications on their system. I keep a build on my website and if a situation pops up that requires me to access the end user's machine have them download and run it.
Your request for WOL is a bit confusing though, which implies you are not going for end user support. What are you looking for:
- a solution to connect to your personal machine running in the same subnet as your phone
- a solution to connect to your personal machine from wherever you may be at
- a solution to connect to remote end users machines with a pre-installed application
- a solution to connect to remote end users machines without a pre-installed application
- something else.
WOL can be triggered remotely (with preparation) but regardless requires the machine to be set up properly and that you know the MAC address in advance, not likely in a remote end user scenario.

Does anyone know where can I get the PhoneMyPC installation file for the phone? I couldn't find any download link on their site.

On the market. search for "phonemypc". It is a commercial app (9.99 USD) so that is pretty much your only way to get it.

Trust me on this one, go with Remote Desktop Client from xtralogic.. I've been using it for nearly a year.. its the best RDP you will find, no client install needed.

PhoneMyPC is the BEST!
Wait... we're biased ;-)
I suspect the user base here is savvy enough to know much of this, but a few details for anybody who's interested.
PhoneMyPC uses a technology similar to VNC, but it's custom and generally performs better. It is a bandwidth-limited approach to remoting, and we chose this because (a) we wanted something that made no compromises on visual quality (no missing desktop wallpapers, no changed settings, no missing themes), and we see the trend in available bandwidth going steadily up for the forseeable future. This makes PhoneMyPC a good option for remote video, for example, because it is optimized for pictoral data rather than vector data.
RDP, on the other hand, is optimized for vector data, so typically consumed less bandwidth than PhoneMyPC, but much more CPU resources. It also has the advantage that it is built in to all Professional and Server Windows versions.
The biggest difference between the two however is how they handle the network. With RDP you must know and configure your IP, and you must update it when it changes (or use a DynDNS type solution). You must also know how to configure your router and other security mechanisms for port forwarding.
PhoneMyPC just works, because it uses our servers as a connection point between your phone and PC(s). You don't need to know your IP, or worry if it changes, becuase the PC will actually tell the phone what it's IP is every time you connect. You can use port forwarding to get a better, direct connection, but it is not required for the software to work.
Finally, RDP is a long-lasting, well established (and more or less un-changing) technology; that is an advantage from some perspectives. But if you compare what users are saying PhoneMyPC is at least as good, and it's new, still growing, always getting better, and we're not even close to done yet. That too is an advantage from some perspectives.
SoftwareForMe.com
Makers of PhoneMyPC

I've bought all of them, and I could never get Phone My PC to connect. RDC by xtralogic, Remote VNC Pro Android VNC work great (used with TightVNC).
EDIT: Any suggestions Softwareforme? Also constant f/c's when connected via wifi on N1.

[Q] New Remote Desktop App

I tried to test out the new Remote Desktop application in the marketplace. There weren't any reviews so I download the trial. It wouldn't connect to any my computers, and ended up throwing an exception then running out of time on the trial.
Anyone else have better luck? I really want an app that works with Windows' RDP without having to install any other software. It would be awesome to get Jaadu or something with that quality on WP7. I've used it on iOS and its a fantastic client.

Hey I just tried it out, but im not sure what the hell I am doing and what developer doesn't include a "How to" in the app?
Any knows how to use this windows 7 feature? I do have w7 pro...

I got the app to connect to my Windows 7 desktop at home so it does work.
I don't know how this app works exactly but there's no way it's doing a direct connection to your workstation or server because the WP7 SDK doesn't support sockets. It must be going through a proxy of some sort which may be a security concern.
The real RDP clients will come when Mango is released and sockets are supported. Until then there will only be proxy based clients found on the marketplace.
If you are desperate for a RDP client this one seems to work ok.

The first real RDP app!
I tried the app yesterday. It worked perfectly at the first try. I really need such an app.
Sadly after purchasing it, it did not work at all. But surprisingly sometime later it was alright again. According to the exceptions that were thrown it has to do with the proxy-server that tunnels the tcp requests over http.
The server seems to be a bit unstable but I guess they will improve it sooner or later.
So I think if you need a real RDP client for now just use it – it’s really working well as long as the proxy is up! It is definitely the best and fastest one on the marketplace. Of course under a security-point of view an app that connects directly would be much nicer (I think they will change it as soon as mango it out). On the other hand if it would connect directly how could you now that it is not also sending your passwords elsewhere (if you are not going to sniff the network traffic…)?
There are only some minor things which could be better:
- Ask for permission to run under lock only once - not on every startup!
- Pinch to zoom to be able to click with more precision.
- Better behavior for text-input. I sometimes can´t see what I´m typing.
But for a v1 version thumbs up from me!

waiting for real rdp protocol, that can be done only with socket support...