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How do I copy a file that is in ROM that is tied to services and resists copying?

The file I'm trying to copy is ezinput.dll. Specifically, the version from my new Sprint Diamond Touch Pro.
I never had any problems copying files from ROM, but this one resists.
I tried using 1) Explorer via Activesync, 2) Resco Explorer (error: Cannot copy, Invalid parameter), 3) Total Commander (Cannot copy), 4) zipping the file (result is a 0 byte file), and stopping all the related services but results are the same.
Thinking that the dll is locked because it is loaded, I renamed all references of this file in the registry, reset, no joy.
Using Memmaid, I see that Services spawns many threads, and some of the et9 related dlls are started by it. Is this why I can't copy the file? If so, how do I keep Services from starting the .dlls?
The big questions are 1) Why can't I copy? and 2) How do I copy a file that resists copying?
Thanks.

question here is why do you want to copy the file, well i would like to know why lol
Have you got a rom update for the diamond rom you could extract the file from that, maybe it is protected ,which is why it cant be copied. Have you tried clicking copy in resco then just paste a copy back into the windows directory it will just rename it copy of ezinput.dll ,then maybe you will be able to copy that copy of the file?

Yes, I can extract the ROM (no update as far as I know) if I needed to, but I'm trying to avoid that.
I want to copy that file because the Touch Pro has slightly variations in its soft keybard that I would like to use.
I asked one of my developers, and he explains that the file is opened as "exclusive". I need to find a way to keep that file from running on startup. It's not running as a service, it's not in the startup, it's a registered .dll that is being called by another process.
Does WM6.x have a .dll cache?
There must be a way to copy this file... Help?

use total commander; works for me

zeezee said:
use total commander; works for me
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As I indicated in the original post, TC did not work. If you have a Diamond/Touch Pro/WM6.x w/ HTC's soft-keyboard, I would like you to try to use TC to copy windows/ezinput.dll to another location. My guess is that it will NOT work.

snovvman said:
As I indicated in the original post, TC did not work. If you have a Diamond/Touch Pro/WM6.x w/ HTC's soft-keyboard, I would like you to try to use TC to copy windows/ezinput.dll to another location. My guess is that it will NOT work.
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ohh...i didnt read carefully enough, sorry.
Might be a way to see content of the flashdisk on the PC while in the erm...tricolor screen (i cant believe i dont remember the term at the moment x.x) - but then again, probably not.

Help creating a cab file

I have this comm manager that I found from the forums a while back.. It was made my MFRAZZ... This installs correctly and works fine... However, I wanted to change the color of the buttons from blue to a maroon color that fades to black to match the theme on my phone
I opened the cab file and found quite a few files and an XML file... I found out the the other files were actually .png files renamed. I renamed them to ] .PNG and used Gimp to edit the pictures. I then renamed the files back to the origional file extension and used winrar to make it back into .cab.
I have a pic of the comm manger below, a pic of the error message and a pic of my current theme listed below. I also have the comm manager made by MFRAZZ and the comm manager I have edited attached below. They are clearly labeled.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Maybe you could enlighten me on what I did wrong.
This is not an issue where the comm manager is open or running in the background. I think I might have done something to the files when editing them to change their colors. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Picture titled Comm manager: This is the comm manager successfully installed to my device. This shows the blue Icons which I have changed to maroon.
Picture titled Unsuccessful: Error when I try to install the new edited comm manger.
Cab file titled Touch Comm Manager: The blue comm manger made by MFRAZZ
Cab file titled Comm Manager Maroon: The comm manager that I edited the picture colors and which will not install to my Device.

Help??
So no one interest in helping someone out?

you cant simply repack the cab with winrar , you need to sign the Comm Manager with Certificates, search the ofrum for msigner, download it and sign the comm manager with it and then hopefully you'r good to go

Do i run msigner on the cab file or do i run it on the individual files packed into the cab file? thanks

Msigner
Alright, this is what i got when using msigner on the cab file as well on the individual files inside of the cab file.... Looks like I'm doing something wrong.. Heres the error message
Error: Signing Failed. Result = 800b0003, (-2146762749)
I only found 2 threads on this error message while using msigner. Neither one was successful at helping me with my issue.
Thanks in advance

I searched some other forums on signing cab files as well as my best friend.... GOOGLE. It appears that im going to need a windows mobile 6 sdk and a program called MSDN.. Is this correct? Is there an easer way to do this?

i think it misses the Certificates, make sure you dnt take the EXE out of its root folder

Use MSCEinf to dump the CAB file (7th button from the left on the toolbar), then edit the PNGs, then repack the CAB with Cabwiz:
cabwiz "fullpath\filername.inf"
Cabwiz is included with XP, but if you can't find it, you can get it here.
the CAB does not have to be signed, and since you're not editing the EXE, it doesn't have to be signed either.
Thanks to Benthon for his wonderful MSCEinf. A free program that he continually updates for the benefit of us WinCE users.
J03M4N

Ok...
I have a folder on my desktop thats says Msigner. When I open it up, I see a file that says Ssigner.exe. I can click on that and it opens up but it wont let me write a certificate to my cab file. there is also a yellow folder that is labled tools..... It has a quite a few dll files in it.
Any help would be appreciated

Joemanb,
thanks for the software. Tried it out and it wont open up my cab file that I created. however it will open up the origional cab file... Maybe i did something wrong haha.....

*Update*
I used the program in the last post. it wouldnt readthe cab file that I created but It read the origional cab file from MFRAZZ. I put the origional cab file from MFRAZZ into the program and extracted the files.
It extracted all the files into the correct file format. All my pictures were .png. I thought I was on the right track. I went aheadand edited all the pictures to make them the colors I wanted them to be. I also saw a .mui file... and I saw comm.exe. I expect thats the comm manager. There is not .xml fle now.
How to I repack all of this back into a cab file?
Thanks in advanced

Instructions on how to create the CAB are in my first post :
then repack the CAB with Cabwiz:
cabwiz "fullpath\filename.inf"
Cabwiz is included with XP, but if you can't find it, you can get it here.
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Type the command at a DOS prompt: 'fullpath' is the full path to the folder you dumped the CAB to, and 'filename.inf' is the name of the .inf file created when you dumped the CAB. Don't forget the quotes.
J03M4N

Sorry. I get a little ahead of myself. This is my first go at making a cab file. if all goes well i might do this more.
Nice I read on later and back tracked. I noticed that the link provided takes me to msdn's website with a title of Cabwiz(PPC Only) there is no download option. IS cabwiz built into the Windows Mobile 6 sdk?
Thanks in advanced again

ok im slowly getting this.... HaHa. I used command prompt and cabwiz. I took the inf file and pasted it into the folder that was dumped from the other program. I typed it in like this in command prompt.
cabwiz "d:\documents and settings\rzrgs6\desktop\windows\maroon_comm_manager.inf"
it kicked back with this error message...
Error: section [CEStrings] key"installDir" - data value must be an absolute path, or must start with a supported windows CE DirID <of the form %CEx%>
confused on this, maybe a little light shining on this might help.. Any Clues?
Heres an attachment of what I have so far...

you shouldn't have to move or copy the .inf, it should already be in the folder you dumped the CAB to.

It dumped a folder on my desktop callled windows. The comm manager.inf file was dumped on my desktop next to the yellow folder called windows. what you are saying is to do this
in command prompt, navigate to the cabwiz file. Type in cabwiz "d:\documents and settings\rzrgs6\desktop\windows" for the filename and just leave the .inf file on the desktop?
What to type exactly in command prompt is what is confusing me.
Thanks

Ok... I got frusturated with the .cab making process. I just took the pictures for the comm manager that I edited in GIMP and dropped them in my windows directory of my device.
It will keep me happy for now.
Below is my comm manager now and my theme on my phone which i created for Manila 2D

I'd like to help but it's hardfor me to describe it in english(my english is poor).I suggest that you can open it by winrar,see what it likes.And you can search it on google.

I appreciate everyones help.
I used WinCE to unpack the .cab file. It left me with a windows folder on my desktop with a bunch of .png files. I edited those from blue to the maroon fading black. The windows folder also had a .dll file a .mui file and the comm manager.exe file.
Next to the yellow windows folder I saw a .inf file which was dumped from the origional cab file. I expect this was the .xml installation file that was packaged in the origional cab.
Heres what I did. I searched and found Cabwiz and a few other cab making programs. I tried them all out with no success. I keep trying to use cabwiz as I fell it will do what I want. The only think is, I get an error when using Cabwiz which is in an earler post.
For now I gave up.... I just took the .png files that I edited in Gimp and copied them over to my windows Directory on my phone. I soft reset and the icons on my comm manager are the way that I want them to be
If someone could help me actually in the making of this file or just get me back on my feet and try again. I want to understand what it is that I am doing wrong.
Thanks

use the path to the .INF file like I said....
if you dumped the stuff to your desktop (WHY?) then your path to the inf file is:
"d:\documents and settings\rzrgs6\desktop\maroon_comm_manage r.inf"
so your command line is:
cabwiz "d:\documents and settings\rzrgs6\desktop\maroon_comm_manage r.inf"
why you stuck 'windows' in your path I don't know since that is NOT the path to the .INF file. The Windows folder was dumped along with the .INF file, but it was NOT the folder you dumped the CAB to. the Folder you dumped the CAB to is the folder you select after clicking the seventh button from the left in MSCEinf. Obviously you just selected the folder that was presented to you in the dialogue (Desktop) instead of navigating to a work folder and dumping it there.
I did NOT say to navigate anywhere after going to the command prompt (Cabwiz is in the system path). Nor did I say to move or copy anything.
You're reading alot into what I've said, and that seems to be your problem.

Nooby .cab question.

Ok, please excuse me and this question. I'm a At&t Tilt, Treo and iPAQ user.
I'm new to this forum and I have an issue.
When I download a file, for instance: Risidoro_Intent_MIDlet_Manager_11.1.7.1023.cab.zip
I open it with WinRar and Extract to my desktop
inside the new folder is _setup.xml and a bunch of different files that say stuff like 00CAB10D.004
How do I install these?
When I open _setup on my Tilt or on my PC I get a script that opens up in Internet Explorer.
Thanks a bunch,
Alan

You don't install them.
Windows Mobile installer files are in cab format
to install just copy the cab file itself to your device and run it thru your PDA's file explorer

Still confused, what do I open?
Theres around 10 files and when I open them they say something like open this with an application.
And when I open _setup it shows me a script.

unzip the ZIP file so you get a file.CAB (DON'T exctract the CAB).
drop the cap into your device and double click it..

How to install?

Hi there, I just bought a new HTC 2 Pro and upgrade to 6.5, so now I want to install a few application that I download from here but all I see is files and a setup.xml, there is no .cab file on it. Can some body tell how can I work this out.
Thank You.

What kind of files besides the xml? What were you trying to install?

Does the file you download appear as a .zip when you find all the files (like _setup.xml)? Your internet browser might be renaming the .cab extension on the downloaded files to .zip. When you're looking at the file you downloaded on your computer, does it show up with the extension .cab or .zip (does it look like a filing cabinet or a zipped folder)? If the file with _setup.xml inside it shows up as a ZIP file, rename the extension to .cab, place it on your device somewhere, and open it with File Explorer Mobile (on your device). You're likely opening the cab file one way or another

Thank you for your replys. I am trying to install (Srub) in my phone. when I extrac the files to a folder all I see is _setup.xml, 000scrub.000, 000scrub.001 and thats it. So do I have to rename one of this to .cab? if it is which one is?

my money is on the file you extracted those files from
rename that to cab

Problem Resolve, I upgrade to the later Rom (EnergyROM Leo! Landscape and Documents!) and this rom have an application named (Pocket Rar) so I just create a folder inside my Doc and launch the .cab from there. I love it!!! Thank You all for your help.

[Q] Is there and app that can launch an apk from within a RAR archive?

Hi im looking for a file manager that can launch an .apk file that I have compressed into a .rar archive.
Astro Manager can do this for zip files but rar is a much better archive and has higher compression.
Does anybody know of one that is compatible with rar and can launch it "directly" from the archive, and not just extract it somewhere and you have to then manually launch it.

I don't know any file manager with RAR support built-in.
But there are 2 apps for RAR archives in the Market: Unrar and Unrar Pro.
So at least you can unrar the archive and then install the APK with a file manager (Astro, ES File Manager, ...).
Edit: well I missed the last part of your message : "not just extract it somewhere and you have to then manually launch it". Sorry...

Yeah bud, You see that's the prob, the only ones ive found are ones that have to extract somewhere and then you manually launch it.
What im looking for is same functionality as zip has with Astro where yu can launch the apk directly from inside a zip file. It will extract it first in background and then automatically launch for you so the extracted file stays in cache or some temporary folder.
Hopefully winrar will release an official app at some point or somebody releases a solution

Maybe ask to the team of one of the existing file managers if they can add support for RAR, instead of having yet another file manager, only for RAR.

I have done.
I was simply asking if there was currently one available in the mean time.
Hopefully ASTRO will integrate rar support, its by far the best file manager ive used.

Then you have not tried ES File Manager

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Then you have not tried ES File Manager
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Yes I have.
It doesnt do what im asking.
[edit] Infact ive just tried it again and it doesnt even support rar archives at all, it cant extract or load from them.
What im looking for is a program that can launch a spk fiel from within an archive. There are many managers that can extract files from them but what im looking for is something that extracts in background to temp files and launches the file directly via the archive when viewing, Just like Astro does with zip files but for rar.