Accessing storage card from apps on PC - General Topics

I would like to sync all the files on my phone (M600) storage card to my PC, so I have a backup. I have a sync app (good sync) on my PC and ideally would just like to set it to sync the storage card to a folder on the PC every night.
Is there a UNC path or similar that will let me access the storage card from a PC app? In explorer it just shows "\Storage Card", but that only works in an explorer window that is already 'inside' the mobile device.
I know there are backup apps that will backup the whole card, and I use sprite backup to backup the device memory, but creating lots of very large backup files (mostly with mp3s and map files on them) doesn't seem like a very efficient way of doing things.
thanks
mark.

If you really want to backup the whole card, how are you going to get away from having some very large backup files? (summing your card is very big too lol)

Depending on what OS you're using, there are various options for mapping the Storage Card to at as a USB Drive. It'll be assigned a drive letter, and you can backup normally through the PC.
There are free options on WM5, paid for versions on WM2003.
V

Thanks - mounting as a drive letter would be perfect. Could you please point me in the direction of one of these programs (for WM5) - I couldn't find any on handago or pocketgear.

Search for WM5torage
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=1702
V

Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't think WM5torage will work for me - you have to manually activate/deactivate it and when it is activated the phone can't access the card and activesync doesn't work. It's very much a manual solution, in which case it would be as easy to manually remove the card and plug it into my pc direct.
What I am hoping for is something that just runs permanently in the background without getting in the way of normal operation, so I can automatically schedule a sync each night.
What are the commercial options? I don't mind buying if the price is reasonable.

Haven't seen a commercial solution, but I guess you could use mortscript or skschema to schedule WM5torage, run it at say 11pm-12am, and at the same time cause your pc to do a backup of the now visible card.
After 12am, have your scheduler app disable WM5torage. All good hopefully.
There used to be 3rd party software for PocketPC that could map the storage to a Drive Letter, but I haven't seen it for many years.
V

Thanks vijay - that might be a workable solution. I'll give it a try. It would be nice if there was something a little more straightforward though!

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markauk said:
What are the commercial options? I don't mind buying if the price is reasonable.
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You can try Card Export II for pocketPC.
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
Unfortunatly wm5torage nor cardexport2 work on my TyTN
Anyone knows a suitable app for the Hermes?

Card Export II didn't seem to offer anything different from WM5torage.
I've tried using skschema and WM5torage and while it's a little 'manual' to set up, it works pretty well so far. Good Sync on my PC can be set to sync whenever it sees a specific new disc mounted, so all I had to do was schedule WM5torage to switch to USB drive mode at night, and then back again to normal mode 30 mins later.
Thanks everyone for the pointers!

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Super Sync (Beta 1.2) Released

Hello, the latest Beta version of super sync is now available for download (the previous version was lost during the forums backup/restore problems)
Super sync now does...
Sync any and all folders on your PPC to a basefolder on your desktop pc
Synchronise time to the PPC or sync Desktop pc clock to PPC clock
Fix contact names on every connection.
Multiple archives (definable) kept of any changed/deleted files.
Syncing to more then one Desktop PC working.
Some small bugs were fixed, making sync more reliable.
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I intend to add more tools at a lated date, current suggestions and listings are as follows
Reliably search for duplicates in contacts
Sync/backup SMS messages on mobile edition devices
Pocket media folders.
Sync memory cards connected via a memory card reader
Sync more than 1 mailbox to more than 1 computer
sync all favourites instead of just 'mobile favourites'
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Some of the above are suggestions of users from these forums - thanks for the suggestions guys - I'll try and incorporate them soon!
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NOTE: this software in is it's beta stage only, I have tried to make sure there are no bugs but a couple may still have escaped my notice. It is possible but unlikely that your data may be damaged if a bug occurrs, please back up your unit and all data before trying!!
icarusbop, suprisingly there still is no synch solution for PocketPC for Linux. I think there is a great void there. Can your solution be ported to run on Linux? Just an idea.
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icarusbop, suprisingly there still is no synch solution for PocketPC for Linux. I think there is a great void there. Can your solution be ported to run on Linux? Just an idea.
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Sorry - I'm completely clueless about Linux and the code I have done uses the AS connection to connect to the device anyway. A Port to Linux from what I have already would be impossible.
yeah mate, keep developing, I can't wait until you release the media folders, I know for a fact that AS would not release that feature in the future, (since they want you to use WMP10), also, Is unpractical to upload a bunch of songs via slow USB1, so for that feature alone, I'm willing to spend my money. Also the Memory card upload is better and faster, cause most Memory card readers are USB2, and are faster, (specially for us 1GB sd card users.
Keep up the great work!
Just to keep everyone updated, I am still working on Super sync. I have nearly finished the Memory card reader sync section and am hoping to add Pocket Media folders next. I have also eliminated some more bugs and made sync more reliable.
The bad news is my XDA has died and gone off for repair, so it will be a couple of weeks before I can make any more progress; sorry!!
I hope to post a new version of the software soon.
I've downloaded the software to my desktop but when I try to open it I am asked what I want to open it with. Is there an installation process?
The download file is compressed with WinRAR, you need winrar on your computer to de-compress it...
You can get if from here
http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-2250-10007677.html?part=dl-winrar&subj=dl&tag=button
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i say keep developing it, with all my respect to MS but they are a lame company that designs based to what they need not what people needs, i also would say if you can develop the sync where the computer takes internet connection from the pda & not ONLY vice versa

WM 5.0 installation question from a new guy

Well I just got my iMate a couple of weeks ago and sold my Treo so I am now a slave to Bill once more.
My questions are regarding installation on WM, I know that in Palm, I could just copy the app file to the palm ( or cad) and it would not only run from there but would add itself to the desktop.
Can someone please explain the install process on WM, is there a registry ? Can I just drop fles in and expect them to work or is ther an install with DLL's, registry entries and so on ? If I install on to an external card and then do a hard reset, will I have to reinstall?
How is uninstall done ? I installed Destinator in the main memory which just about took up all the memory I had, and once it did not seem to work, I uninstalled it, but my main memory seemed to remain full ??? So I had to do a hard reset.
By the way, where are files tranferred via IR and BT stored on the device, can I specify another place ?
Hope someone can help me ASAP
AZ
There are three ways apps are installed on a PPC.
1) Via a setup file on your PC, it will use the ActiveSync connection to install it onto your device. You get the option to install to the memory or the card.
2) Via a CAB file on the device, you tap it, and start the install, then select internal or storage.
3) Via a program executable that you just tap to run, it is up to you where you place these files.
I usually install system apps internally, and everything else on the card. There's no real difference in speed between internal and storage under WM5 since the internal memory is also flash.
If you hard reset it, yes you will need to reinstall everything, but unless you really mess it up, you shouldn't have to. Letting the battery run down will not wipe your data as everything is in flash. There are a number of backup apps you can get, three most popular being Sunnysoft Backup, SPB Backup, and Sprite Backup. If you are new to the platform and will be tinkering, perhaps a backup of your good working config would be recommended, then after you mess it up with all the little apps you are bound to be playing with, you can restore it to it's good working state.
As for beaming, I believe it simply places new files in the My Documents folder, the only way you can change this is by the registry if it's even possible.
Some more info regarding installs?
I was also woneing where such things as favorites, voice dial recordings and others are saved, is it possible to back these up seperately ?
those are in the /Documents folder. And recordings are inside the /Document/Notes

Exploring device memory with a PC (no ActiveSync)

I was wondering if there was a way to do exploring of the internal memory via regular means (windows explorer).
Reason for this Q being that i use FAR Manager to do file chores and it hacks me off to no end that exploring can only be done via ActiveSync... I love my Far, being an old coot with old Norton Commander habit
Yes, bluetooth.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1028
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sliex said:
I was wondering if there was a way to do exploring of the internal memory via regular means (windows explorer).
Reason for this Q being that i use FAR Manager to do file chores and it hacks me off to no end that exploring can only be done via ActiveSync... I love my Far, being an old coot with old Norton Commander habit
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Sorry this post isn't going to help you but how in the heck can you use FAR in today's world of technology?
Are you still using a 286 processor?
Whats wrong with FAR ? It's a win32 app, works well, has loads of plugins, loads of uses AND a beautifully readable console graphics (NC weeeee ). I hate windows explorer with a passion and windows graphics based file managers look butt ugly... there
I'm thinking of looking for something similar for my new Touch Pro
Total Commander has a plugin to explore the filesystem of a WM PDA/smarthphone.
Check it out here. The name of the plugin is "WinCE". I use only Total Commander for working with files and dirs and it's great to explore my Touch Pro with it too.
Am I misstaken if I belive you just want to browse the files on your phone as it was a memorystick you inserted into your computer?
If that is the case you just have to select to use your device as a disc station when you insert the usb cable. I belive it uses activesync as the default, the question only shows up for like 10 seconds so you might have missed it if you didn't watch your phone.
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If that is the case you just have to select to use your device as a disc station when you insert the usb cable.
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With this, the "disc mode", you can only see the content of the extension microSD card, not the content of the internal storage memory, where Windows and the programs are installed.
You can try Pocket Controller. It's expensive, but there's a demo that works well.

Looking for a sync program

Hey,
I need a program to sync my movies folder via usb. I tried microsoft sync toy but it doesnt work with the tablet. Dropbox is no option and I think the Asus sync program doesnt have the ability.
the best one for over the air (not usb) is foldersync...building your own dropbox
it´s on the market
regards
Mr.Lee
Have you tried Dirsync?
http://www.dirsyncpro.org/download.html
Since neither FolderSync (which is great over WiFi) nor DirSync support MTP as far as I can see, your options are down to... errrrr... none. I do heartily recommend WiFi-based syncs with FolderSync though, and Titanium Media Sync may do the job as well (although I cannot recall if that provides sync over MTP connections as well).
I will try that but I am not happy. I fly frequently so I often push 10Gb and more up. That takes ages via Wifi.
Is there a know program to wirelesly sync contacts and agenda?
I did a search and this is the best I came up with :s
Cause the asus sync kinda sucks imo. You need to klick it at the tablet then pick dates on the computer and then hit sync? There is no way to do it automatically? HTC and Samsung do a WAY better job, but don't have such tablets :s
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I will try that but I am not happy. I fly frequently so I often push 10Gb and more up. That takes ages via Wifi.
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Oh, yeah, with that kind of transfer volume you can at least shower, have dinner and have a nap in between (and after dinner as well, quite possibly). Isn't a card reader the best option then? (And maybe an extra card so you can transfer content to one card and have the next one pumped full in the meantime?). Do you have the dock as well? That would double your transfer rate, since you could use both cards to transfer at the same time in either a multiformat reader or several card readers used simultaneously.
I'm sorry if I am pursuing a lost cause, but I'm just trying to think with you here.
Netgear recently released a gigabit router so the speed to transfer over wifi will be a lot quicker.
Though yes, i do agree (or at least i can't find a solution myself), surely there must be an easier way to push large files from PC to the tablet.
I inserted the SD Card, however the copying function keeps on crashing for (for numerous small files in many folders)
There must be some software out there that supports MTP! Totally frustrating. I use goodsync to sync to my PC/ phone/ NAS but i can't sync anything to the tablet!
MartyHulskemper said:
Since neither FolderSync (which is great over WiFi) nor DirSync support MTP as far as I can see, your options are down to... errrrr... none. I do heartily recommend WiFi-based syncs with FolderSync though, and Titanium Media Sync may do the job as well (although I cannot recall if that provides sync over MTP connections as well).
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What is the recommended way to sync back to your computer if you are using FolderSync? ie. SMB/ FTP/ SFTP etc? I have Windows7.
I dont quite understand your comment re: sync over MTP. Is FolderSync not providing that intermediary between the tablet and the PC? (ie. essentially synching over Wifi to MTP?)
Just want to push this topic!
I couldnt get Folder Sync to work. There are so many options available and it seems you need additional software installed on the computer. There are no manuals available Sync over Dropbox etc. is no option because of their file size limitations. Im using Isyncr now for my music files. Works awesome.
I still have to do the movies, etc. by hand

General Android -> Windows Backup strategy

Backing up camera photos, messenger pics, contacts, documents etc. to Windows in their original format.
Smartphone: unrooted Mate9 with Android 8
What I used to do:
Connect my previous phone (rooted Ascend Mate) to Windows via USB, it's SD card got connected as a real mass storage device. I then ran a custom robocopy batch routine that backed up/mirrored all the important things to my computer. I folder mounted everything interesting from the internal memory to the SD card, like messenger pics.
This worked really great.
Problem I have now:
My new Mate9 does not support true USB mass storage connection anymore. It only supports this awful pseudo MTP file transfer connection to Windows.
This makes robocopy unusable because it only works with real drives with an assigned letters of course.
I really don't know what to do now.
Any cloud backup solution is not an option for me, because of sensitive data and slow internet. Full phone backups feel like an overkill and I cannot access the files on the computer directly.
I know that some people run a samba server or something on their phones to turn the storage into NAS drives. (Robocopy supports NAS I think) This seems to be maximum overkill and difficult to setup and resource intense but I'm interested if its the only way.
Any tips? Thank you
Don't know much about Windows, or MPT for that matter, but perhaps you could map your device (folders you need) to a letter drive? If I recall correctly, that mapping will allow you to read the files located on the MPT drive.
This is acually possible. I found a commercial software that lets you map a driver letter to an MTP device but it's $40.
Did some more research and getting a drive letter for Android storage over WiFi is acually stupidly easy.
Just install WebDav Server on Android and click the button. Then on Windows Explorer -> Map Network Driver and enter the IP displayed on Android. Thats literally it.
I only hope that I can get two drive letters for internal and external storage. Need to try.
So I found a complete solution that I'm VERY happy with!
Its running two WebDAV servers on Androind, one for accessing the internal storage and one for the sd card. This allows me to map 2 network drives in Windows and that means robocopy magic!
Here is how I did it:
1. Install the free app WebDAV Server Ultimate. This app allows you to run multiple servers at once AND let you specify custom storage paths. Both things that the other popular app WebDAV Server can't do!
2. Create two new servers in the app with the plus button and specify the according storage paths. Also make sure these two servers use different ports. The name can be specified freely. Click on the play button to start the servers.
3. Open the Windows Explorer and click "Map network drive" in the top bar. A new window pops up: Pick a drive letter you want and enter the Network IP of your smartphone and the port under "Folder" like this example sceme: \\192.168.178.01:8080 Also check the box "Reconect at logon" if you want the drives to still be there after a restart. The your current phone IP can be viewed in the WebDAV app when you klick on the info icon.
Thats it basically. After that you have your internal storage and sd card mapped to driveletters in Windows over WiFi. Just write your robocopy routine and do one click backups You can check "Keep the device fully alive" in the WebDAV app settings which helped stability and might improve speed. I got about 4-5 MB/s which isn't fast but fast enough for me.
One more thing:
If you use Windows 7 and you want to transfer files bigger 50 MB you have to do this registry workaround by Microsoft. For security reasons, Windows 7 limits WebDAV filetransfers at 50 MB by default.
Doomkeks said:
So I found a complete solution that I'm VERY happy with!.
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Good stuff, I'd consider making a how-to thread in your devices forum for others!

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