Hi, no matter what music player i use on my XDAIIi i always get gaps in-between my songs. I have a lot of dance music which mixes into the next song on my CDs so if i play it on a CD player i have un-interrupted music but if i convert it to MP3 (CDex) then i have about a 1 sec gap from the 'end' of a song to when the next one starts.
Is this just the way it is or am i converting to MP3s incorrectly?
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I seem to remember from my original Orange SPV smartphone days that there were workarounds for the fact that you couldn't skip forward movies, what you did was to create a playlist which pointed to different positions in the same file to simulate chapters. You could always try ripping your entire CD as one single MP3 and create a playlist for the individual songs in the file. That way if you play the playlist instead of the MP3 you can listen to it without gaps and still have the ability to jump forwards and backwards though it to a particular track.
This is how you do it.
File name = my album.mp3
Album title = my album
Track 1 = "one" Length = 3 mins
Track 2 - "two" length = 2 mins
Track 3 = "three" length = 6 mins
Playlist = my album.asx
Playlist contents
Code:
<asx version="3">
<TITLE> my album</TITLE>
<ENTRY>
<StartTime Value = "0:0.0"/>
<TITLE> one </TITLE>
<Ref Href = "my album.mp3"/>
<Duration Value= "3:00.0"/>
</ENTRY>
<ENTRY>
<StartTime Value = "3:00.0"/>
<TITLE> two </TITLE>
<Ref Href = "my album.mp3"/>
<Duration Value= "2:00.0"/>
</ENTRY>
<ENTRY>
<StartTime Value = "5:00.0"/>
<TITLE> three </TITLE>
<Ref Href = "my album.mp3"/>
<Duration Value= "6:00.0"/>
</ENTRY>
</asx>
Once you create the playlist put it into the same folder as your mp3, or if you want to have a seperate folder for the playlist and the mp3 then change all the <Ref Href = "my album.mp3"/> lines to something like <Ref Href = "..\my music\my album.mp3"/>, which assumes you store your MP3s in "some path\my music\" and your playlists in "(the same) some path\my playlists\"
It looks like quite a bit of work but I'd imagine that you won't need to be too accurate with your track timings, as long as they all add up. The tricky one is the start time as you need to remember to roll in all the track durations preceeding it. Madu (from modaco.com) had released an excel file with macros to enable you to partially automate the creation of the asx code but I can't seem to find it now.
The thought had already crossed my mind about ripping it to a single file with no chapters, do you know a good ripper that does this before i have to start downloading and installing everything i can find. I've already checked and CDex can't do this.
Haven't actually done it myself in a long time, but I'm sure that there are plenty of capable programs out there. CDex was one suggested on Modaco, I'm surprised it doesn't work, are you sure that you are selecting to extract a section of the CD to a compressed file and not just selecting tracks and ripping them?. You could always rip the raw data from the CD in BIN-CUE form and rename the .bin file to .wav then use any wave to mp3 convertor out there. This way you would also have a starting point for your playlist in the cue file.
Just had a play around with this and discovered that the playlist idea doesn't seem to work on the universal. I was able to set up the playlist and have all the songs entered into it, but when it reaches the end of the first track it just jumps back to the beginning again, ignoring the start time of the next track. Perhaps I'm just using the wrong format, I tried with both WMA and MP3, or perhaps its just WM05 which doesn't allow random entry into a file. If anyone else knows please post.
EDIT: Must be a Windows Mobile 05 or SD card problem, the playlist plays perfectly in windows, jumps to the right track and plays without any gaps.
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Haven't actually done it myself in a long time, but I'm sure that there are plenty of capable programs out there. CDex was one suggested on Modaco, I'm surprised it doesn't work, are you sure that you are selecting to extract a section of the CD to a compressed file and not just selecting tracks and ripping them?. You could always rip the raw data from the CD in BIN-CUE form and rename the .bin file to .wav then use any wave to mp3 convertor out there. This way you would also have a starting point for your playlist in the cue file.
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You're right, CDex does do it!
I works too, great!
Thanks everyone.
johnk1973 said:
shuflie said:
Haven't actually done it myself in a long time, but I'm sure that there are plenty of capable programs out there. CDex was one suggested on Modaco, I'm surprised it doesn't work, are you sure that you are selecting to extract a section of the CD to a compressed file and not just selecting tracks and ripping them?. You could always rip the raw data from the CD in BIN-CUE form and rename the .bin file to .wav then use any wave to mp3 convertor out there. This way you would also have a starting point for your playlist in the cue file.
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You're right, CDex does do it!
I works too, great!
Thanks everyone.
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How about the playlist idea, are you using one or are you just playing the entire album from start to finish?
I'm not going to bother creating playlists, i'm waiting for the T-mobile MDA Vario II / HTC Hermes like anyone else!
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I have found a (fairly) simple solution for how to have a playlist in the HTC Audio Manager that is sorted by something besides alphabetical order. It's really more of a workaround, but at least it's something.
As you probably know if you're reading this, when you use the HTC Audio Manager and go to create a playlist, all of the songs are presented in alphabetical order with no way to sort them any other way. The names given are short enough that you may not even be able to differentiate songs if they have similar names. E.g. on Pink Floyd's The Wall, you have 3 songs called Another Brick In The Wall. The HTCAM doesn't given you enough name to differentiate them just by looking.
Anyways, if you want to have a playlist sorted by name you either have to look at the album and select the songs in order, rather a PITA; OR you can open up Media Player on your device. Queue up the songs you want into a playlist there and then save it. HTC Audio Manager has the ability to open audio playlists and will search your playlist folder by default. When you go back into the Audio Manager you should see the playlist you created in WMP if you go to Playlists. It will have a Windows Media Player icon next to it and you won't be able to change the playlist, but at least everything will be in order. If you use WMP on your PC to sync music to your phone, you can create the playlists there as well and they should carry over. Although I'm not certain on this since I've got a couple of WMP playlists that didn't carry over. But those were there before I flashed the ROM and might possibly not be saved in the correct location for the Audio Manager to pick them up.
I know it's may not the most elegant solution and certainly not as good as native support, but it is something that really bothered a lot of people. I know that for me it was a deal breaker but I can tolerate this workaround.
can anyone confirm the ability to create playlists on the PC and move them to the phone? I have yet to be able to do this.
Something that really grates me about AudioManager is the ability to piss me off by adding ringtones stored in my storage card to the library. If anyone knows who to add exceptions to certain folders it would be really awesome
Playlist transfer from PC
After pulling half my hair out, I decided ot do this right, and found the way to transfer a playlist with appropriate sorting from Windows to my HTC Touch Pro Audio Manager.
The clue appears to make sure that all references in the playlist are relative to the location of the playlist. I.e. you must store the playlist on the same location as the files. To get this to work I had to work with the TouchPro as a disk drive - which assigns a drive letter and makes things work better in Windows Media Player.
a) Open WMP on the PC
b) Enter “Library”
c) Make a new (empty) playlist
d) Make sure the playlist pane is open on the right
e) Connect HTC as diskdrive
f) Search for all music on the drive in Windows Explorer
g) Select all music found
h) Right click and add to Windows Media Player playlist
i) In WMP – save playlist as
Filename: “Any_name.asx”
Remember to choose file type wpl, m3u, asx to get the format right
Export to the device to get the path right
Steps a-d+i in Windows Media Player (WMP) - e is chosen on the device and f-h in Windows explorer.
My use was to have my playlist shuffled while avoiding repeats - and that could be handled in WMP, but you could also choose the sequence manually or make any other sorting.
Note: some sources of error are: Saving the playlist on the PC will cause references to E:\Music\Song.wma (or whatever) which is likely to be different from the reference internally on the device (\Storage\Music\Song.wma or such).
I hope this helps - if nothing else; I feel a little better to have contributed in return for all the great advice found on the site.
I also investigated playlists created with Playlist Manager on the TouchPro, and to me it appeared that some had a conflicting structure, and would not read in HTC Audio Manager. I suspected the sequence of Title and other headings, but didn't investigate fully.
Regards, Anders
andbb said:
After pulling half my hair out, I decided ot do this right, and found the way to transfer a playlist with appropriate sorting from Windows to my HTC Touch Pro Audio Manager.
The clue appears to make sure that all references in the playlist are relative to the location of the playlist. I.e. you must store the playlist on the same location as the files. To get this to work I had to work with the TouchPro as a disk drive - which assigns a drive letter and makes things work better in Windows Media Player.
a) Open WMP on the PC
b) Enter “Library”
c) Make a new (empty) playlist
d) Make sure the playlist pane is open on the right
e) Connect HTC as diskdrive
f) Search for all music on the drive in Windows Explorer
g) Select all music found
h) Right click and add to Windows Media Player playlist
i) In WMP – save playlist as
Filename: “Any_name.asx”
Remember to choose file type wpl, m3u, asx to get the format right
Export to the device to get the path right
Steps a-d+i in Windows Media Player (WMP) - e is chosen on the device and f-h in Windows explorer.
My use was to have my playlist shuffled while avoiding repeats - and that could be handled in WMP, but you could also choose the sequence manually or make any other sorting.
Note: some sources of error are: Saving the playlist on the PC will cause references to E:\Music\Song.wma (or whatever) which is likely to be different from the reference internally on the device (\Storage\Music\Song.wma or such).
I hope this helps - if nothing else; I feel a little better to have contributed in return for all the great advice found on the site.
I also investigated playlists created with Playlist Manager on the TouchPro, and to me it appeared that some had a conflicting structure, and would not read in HTC Audio Manager. I suspected the sequence of Title and other headings, but didn't investigate fully.
Regards, Anders
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Will your method copy all actual music files in PC to device or it will sync only playlist file? Do playlist files itself - without actual music files - useful for copying to device or backuping?
How can I make the Album covers appear in the "Music" Application? I ripped my audio CDs with Windows Media Player, transferred the Albums to the TP but the album covers don't show. Do I have to place the cover picture manually into the folders? If so, what file name / extension???
My album covers do show up, but I'm not sure why. ;-)
But I think it is because I placed the cover pictures into the folders named "folder.jpg". But since I use itunes it could also be the fact that I've additionaly written the cover into the mp3s id-tags.
Hope that helps!
Album Covers problem solved
1) For each album folder on the phone, put the album art in a file called Folder.jpg, in the same folder as the MP3 files belonging to the album.
2) Delete the phone's music library database (by renaming the file \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\AudioManager_Eng.vol to some other name) [I'm guessing the "Eng" string might be different on some versions]
3) Go into the Music application, press the 'Library' option (bottom left on the screen) and wait while it rebuilds the library.
It will re-size all the Folder.jpg files, and rename them in its own cryptic way. After that, they will appear as album art.
If you synch using Windows Media Player, all this ought, in principle, to be done for you.
Hope this helps,
Jim
exclude folders?
I've a somehow related question:
Is it possible to exclude folders from being indexed into the library? I have some event-sounds, ringtones and so on on my sd-card and all those files all show up in the library as unknown artist etc. and I would really prefer them not showing up at all.
i just add the album arts via itune, then copy the mp3 to the memory card, works like magic
for some albums like indian (bollywood) music for me it is hard to find album art in that case or if you want to display a pic of yor own choice.
i have found that if i place the album art jpeg file into the same folder as the music file. then rename the jpeg to ~htc_"album name".jpg without the quotation marks seems to change the album art for me but this can be quiet tideous i guess
I got another solution for you guys
Hi folks!
The solution is to edit the mp3's ID tag and to put the cover pic on it.
Use a ID tag editor such as Zortam Mp3 Media Studio (free software).You select all the mp3s and you select the cover pic you want and it will includin it into the mp3s IDTag.No need to put the cover pic on the folder or some like that.Moreover, u can put a pic to each mp3s U want(if your a little bit maso ).
There are lots of free softwares for that so find the one for you!
I work well on my Touch Pro like in Windows Mediplayer, Itunes...
Hope it will help you.Bye
The easiest way is with this program http://www.mediamonkey.com/ the free version is sufficient.
It searches for the ID-tag and downloads the covers. You just have to choose the right one, save and copy to the Touch Pro...
hey there, again a related question:
my album art works, thank god so far. but it doesnt work like it want it to.
if you re just listen to 1 album (so all mp³s got the same cover-image) tf3d just puts one coverimage in the front of the player. so you dont see the covers behind. i know, this is not that important... but i want it that way, because i like this scrolling->switch to next track.
any ideas?
Yea but it's not pretty...
hasi_bär said:
hey there, again a related question:
my album art works, thank god so far. but it doesnt work like it want it to.
if you re just listen to 1 album (so all mp³s got the same cover-image) tf3d just puts one coverimage in the front of the player. so you dont see the covers behind. i know, this is not that important... but i want it that way, because i like this scrolling->switch to next track.
any ideas?
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Basically, you will need to edit the attributes of each mp3 file with a UNIQUE album name and then put each song in its own folder with its own folder.jpg image. I found this out by mistake. It's A LOT OF WORK for any significant sized music library.
I personally just load lots of different artists and albums in their own folders and play from the Song List. TFL3D lists the songs separately and it looks great with high res pics. That way, I can show off the "image flipping" in TFL3D like you said.
Adrianstudent said:
The easiest way is with this program http://www.mediamonkey.com/ the free version is sufficient.
It searches for the ID-tag and downloads the covers. You just have to choose the right one, save and copy to the Touch Pro...
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I did it this way and let it download the covers and put it in the tag. It works great, and TF3D automatically creates the ~hTC_AlbumName.jpg file.
I've noticed that while scrolling through music it can get painfully slow and act like it freezes up while trying to load the album cover.
Is there a "best size" for the album art image? I could resize them all to be the same optimal size.
I didn't notice these slowdowns when scrolling through music without album art, so I know its related to that.
I just take the whole album folder and copy/paste to my memory card. Then rebuild library. The album folder has everything, but its hidden when you look at it in Windows PC explorer.
If you just have sporadic, illegal downloads from WinMX, then create a folder with the name of the artist, place all your illegal mp3s for that artist there along with a album cover that follows the same naming convention for album covers htc~ something something. Copy paste the folder to your card and voila, its all good.
When using MediaMonkey, some of the images it downloaded were large, causing the music tab to hang for a few minutes.
It looks like the ideal size is 256x256. After resizing a few of my images to that size the music tab flows like it should now with no freezes or hangs.
Is there a way to download the covers directly on Raphael? I don't want to pollute my desktop mp3 collection with images, but covers on Raphael would be nice.
kocureq said:
Is there a way to download the covers directly on Raphael? I don't want to pollute my desktop mp3 collection with images, but covers on Raphael would be nice.
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You can save the album art in the ID3 Tag of the mp3 and it won't pollute your desktop mp3 collection because the image is stored in the mp3 file itself.
DeepThought said:
I've a somehow related question:
Is it possible to exclude folders from being indexed into the library? I have some event-sounds, ringtones and so on on my sd-card and all those files all show up in the library as unknown artist etc. and I would really prefer them not showing up at all.
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DeepThought - I had this problem too. Basically I used Advanced Config and changed the music location to Storage Card\My Music and it only listed all my music in there. Hope that helps?
On another related question - is there a way to "purge" the music library? When I delete tracks they are still in the library with a ! as the album cover and when I flick through the library on T3D it shows the ! but skips by it and it's annoying!
Anyway to get rid of it?
mindfrost82 said:
You can save the album art in the ID3 Tag of the mp3 and it won't pollute your desktop mp3 collection because the image is stored in the mp3 file itself.
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And how do I do it? Ay special software is required or just good old winamp?
kocureq said:
And how do I do it? Ay special software is required or just good old winamp?
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Probably the most easy way is to use the freeware Mp3tag (but also iTunes or WMP11 support adding cover pictures).
HTH
These solutions don't work for me. Windows Media player on the phone shows all my album arts. However the music player only shows a fraction. I've tried deleting the volume and resyncing but no effect.
alabij said:
These solutions don't work for me. Windows Media player on the phone shows all my album arts. However the music player only shows a fraction. I've tried deleting the volume and resyncing but no effect.
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There is a thread in the diamond forum that tells the name of a particular software that will do this for you automatically. Here is what I do, while it is a bit tedious it gets it don without cluttering up my desktop.
This is only if you have some album art there (ie in Win Media player only) you can navigate to the artist folder and create a copy of the album art file. It should be something.jpg Change the name of the copy to Folder.jpg. Soft reset and then Audio manager will create the *Htc.jpg file it needs to display the album art.
If you don't use Windows Media Mobile then you can skip the copying and rename the file to Folder.jpg.
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
i agree i moved from a iphone and i got to say its annoying, the way windows mobile phones organize music, and when i use windows media player mobile to update my library it seaches the entire device and grabs even system sounds.
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
Eric03 said:
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
dr g said:
How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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Well at least with WMP I can see my music in a "library" setup, as opposed to just opening my music folder which has thousands upon thousands of subfolders. It's just much easier for me (at least the way my music folder is setup) to use a program such as WMP.... but WMP sucks. That is why I am asking for an alternative to WMP.
10332007 said:
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
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Thats exactly what I do and it works like a charm. It is easier than using a program in my opinion. Are you doing something wrong? is it giving you trouble moving the files to the microSD card?
When I start Winamp and have my phone plugged in, it detects it and asks if I want to use it to manage my music on the phone. Winamp has a great name out there, maybe it oculd be useful.
I also used Yahoo Music Engine at once point and that worked great, like itunes. I think that whole deal is still around too, albeit Yahoo music has changed a bit, the app was called Yahoo Music Engine.
I have not tried sync with WM11. There must be a simple option or something you are missing. Perhaps it has to do with Media Player on WM6 and the library function. If you scan the device and organize the library to ignore your Windows folder then it probably won't be a problem on the WM11 side.
Does that make any sense?
WM11 is simple drag and drop; the problem is that when it loads music onto your Phone/SD card it puts it into the file structure Artist/Album/Track based off id3 tags. So if your music is improperly tagged or if you have more than one copy of a song like an album and a compilation album you'll end up with duplicates.
Personally I just wipe out the Music folder on my SD card every 2 weeks or so and dump a new playlist onto it. You can use the WMP sort function in the playlist to eliminate any duplicates before you copy them over. You can still add to the card later and it won't reinstall the same file so long as it's not a duplicate on your desktop like I mentioned above.
As for getting rid of ringtones showing up in your library on your phone I use Pocket Player for my MP3 player and it has an "Exclude Directory" option on it so it will only update from the SD card music folder.
Did Wm4 or CE or whatever handle music?
So that whole development time while WM5 was on market and ipod appeared, was MS just sitting there saying, "Well these are business devices let's focus on getting four Excel cells to show up on this ****tay 320x240 screen instead"
Great.
And the even funier part is the new Blackberry virtualization occurring over WM6. If they were so good at business apps then why is this occurring, HELP ME UNDERSTAND hahahhaha
This was all tongue in cheek utterance from a bewildered fan of MS and their spastic roll outs!!!!!
So I am using an HTC Evo running Android 2.2 with HTC Sense.
I am trying to set up some playlists in the stock music player.
Creating the playlists in the music player is pretty straight forward. The problem is some of the song titles are too long to read on the screen. It doesn't have a landscape mode either, so that doesn't help.
I have friends who are musicians, and I have a lot of their music on my phone. They will give me, for example, a 4 disk set with 20 songs per disk and each song will be named SquishFunkJamsWinter2010Song5Disk2.
If I put the whole folder for each disk in a playlist, it defaults to putting song 10 before song 1, and the order is all weird. And when I try to change the order of the playlist, I can't read the end of the name because it's too long.
Does anyone know of a good app that will let me create or edit playlists and will work in landscape, or at least let me scroll over to read the end of the longer file names?
Also, does anyone know where the stock HTC music player stores the playlists that it creates?
I am looking for a way to do this on the phone, not a computer...
I am running Bubbleupnp and i love it.. streaming music to my TV from my computer controlled by my phone is amazing.
a am also running XBMC for movies and TV shows.
So my question is.
What library options do i have.
options i am looking for
I would like the library to gather album and artists data much like xbmc does
I would also like a library that could check the songs DNA to find the correct name
I would like the library to be able to edit the files data to include artist/album/genre info ect.
I would LOVE a library that will delete duplicate files
I would like the library to edit the names of music to just the song title
I would like the library to manipulate the source library by changing music folders around and putting every song by the same artist in the same folder.
i currently have over 10,000 songs and only about 5000 of them are in folders. some folders are albums, some are artists, some are compilation albums (like "Misc Dubstep") and some songs i have edited by cutting off intros or long stupid outros thus removing all artist data but the songs are still recognizable by DNA...
My library has been growing and getting more and more chaotic over the last 10 years or so. its become too much of a task to even attempt this myself.
I know there are programs that will do what i want... just not sure if there is an all inclusive Library Managment software outthere that i am unaware of. i would love to stop seeing [ ? ] icons when i stream upnp music to my phone or tv
What are my options
OK found some software and tried it out
MediaMonkey seemed good up front.. thought i had it with that one.. turned out that its more manual then automated. I clicked a file to edit and clicked on tracks with unknown artists... went to the search and hit apply.. and it changed teh album cover art, album, and artist to about 60 songs but put them all as Bach Cello suites.
after some research i did it wrong but the right way is more tedius. clicking one track at a time and updating the info you want.
so.. screw that program.
Then i found a program by accident when looking for help with the MediaMonkey called MusicBrainz
this is where its at...
now.. i dont know that it does Videos such as movies but i am more interested in the music..
So opened up and pretty straight forward..
i went into my music folder and searched for all files over 1mb (Size>1MB in the search) and moved all my music out of its containing folders
I then scrapped the leftover folders and random junk left.
Set MusicBrainz to the input folder
set the output folder to my normal music location
and set it to create folders with artist names and label the sons with only their song titles (%Artist%/%title%)
it took about 2 hours to run through the music and update the id3 tags
then that was all done the completed items go into the right pane of the program.
i selected all of them and hit save.. and boom.. its been pumping out folders for about
2 hours now with just the Artist name and no album folders. the way i like it.
I would recommend if your computer is not top notch do not try to do 10,000+ songs at once... my comp runs about 3grand 32gigs of ram and a quad core4ghz and my computer was boggin at times. also the program stopped responding if i messed with it too much.. i would recommend doing it in batches of 500 or 1000 at a time.
hope this helps someone else.. was super easy