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JVM for XDA 2

I have searched thru this forum to try and find an answer to this and also the net...
is there a 3rd party hack to make my xda2's ie be fully JVM complient so it can run java applets etc?
i know there is a midlet jvm from o2 but it doesnt work all the time.
Dave

http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/computing/users/fittond/ppcjava.html
http://www.ewesoft.com/Downloads/Downloads.html
3th google result

XDA2 JVM
HAVE U GUYS ACTUALLY GOT YOUR XDA2s running JAVA APPLETS!?
or r u guys just assuming that these links r the solution and have not tried it on an xda2?
i have followed these links before but NONE of them say that they will work on xda2 running the windows MOBILE O/S and on internet explrer version that xda2 users r stuck with.
they say they wrk on windows ce but not mobile.
HAVE U GUYS ACTUALLY GOT YOUR XDA2 running java applets????
sorry im very frustrated.PLEASE HELP!
dave

The Ewesoft program is VERY confusing.
And as far as i can tell, it didnt work.
I've been looking for some kind of Java that will allow me to run Java applets off of website (like jIRC).
Right now I'm looking at CrEme, which looks like its what I need. But I think I'll have to buy it (i really dont care at this point )
~Ike

JAVA FOR XDA2
AHA!! I KNEW IT... ALL THESE "EXPERTS" CLAIMING TO HAVE A SOLUTION AND PASTING LINKS IN HERE,... AND YET THEY HAVNT FRIGGIN TRIED THE MEDICINE THEM SELVES ON THE XDA2 !!! ARGH!!!
THAT TICKS ME OFF SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!! :>(
IM SO MAD I WANNA EAT MY CRT MONITOR!!! GRRRAAAAAA!!!!
HAS ANYBODY FRIGGIN GOT THEIR JAVA APPLETS RUNNING ON XDA 2 YET OR NOT!??!
PLEAAAAASE TELL ME... IF YOU HAVE, ILL KISS YOU, (if youre a supermodel) AND MARRY U.

I downloaded a copy of Netfront 3 which comes bundled with JVLite2. I havent really used applets with it (except for the 2 games and the calculator that comes with it) but it's been amazingly compatible with full blown Java based chat systems (with multiple resizable windows) when launhced through the Netfront browser. As for the midlet thing that comes with the phone I havent got it to work with anything, I can select the setup option then nothing happens.
Make sure you have ROM 1.60 or later if you're on an XDA 2 because I found that the Java program just disappears in some complex apps with anything older. Also be wary of using Java chat rooms on the train, if u go in a tunnel the Java program will freeze up and wont close, even with special task manager programs on the phone! :lol:
More info can be found here http://www.access.co.jp/english/products/jv.html
Ash

JVM FOR XDA2
aha! a real lead this time!
hey buddy, run icq applet at
http://go.icq.com
PLEASE TELL ME IF IT WORKS!
so that i don't have to risk 30 us dollars.
many thanks in advance!
if it doesn't work can u try a java website like net banking sites?
il be eagerly waiting ur feedback on the results
Dave

well i installed and used ewe compiled an old java program i wrote years agoe just to try it out and it ran just fine
it was no applet and had no gui
but it ran all the same
as for running java in a browser then i havent come across a plugin for IE maybe some of the other browsers have it maybe when opera comes to town it will have a plugin
p.s. writing with capital letters mean that you are shouting which is normal when one is fustrated but you have normal letters in the middle
which is "talking" normaly would be pretty fun irl mixing shouts and normal talk

opera? she makes browsers?!
that black female (barely) talk show host that cant make up her to stay either fat or thin makes browsers?
will it work for xda2?
how many browsers in total currently work on xda2
and is it possible 2 upgrade the version of ie that comes with xda2? say 2 version 6?
dude who got java working on xda2 for irc... still waiting 4 ur results on go.icq.com applet.
DAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://dailywireless.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2996&src=rss09
it's for smartphone but will prob come for pocketpc aswell
http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/software/internet_thunderhawk.htm
and another
how many browser project there really are is a question only google knows
if one can upgrade an ie on a pda depend on if it's located in rom and if it let other files shadow those files

but has anyone actually tried to run an applet on an xda2 with another browser yet?
so far evryone has theoretical ideas but would love to hear success stories on how the got their xda2 to run full grapgical applets. such as http://go.icq.com.

JAVA SUCCESS FOR XDA 2 !!
SUCCESS!!!
THE NET FRONT LEAD WAS SOLID! Thanks whoever sent that link!
I CAN NOW RUN FULL JAVA APPLETS ON THE XDA 2 WITH THE NETFRONT 3.1 BROWSER THAT COMES WITH A JAVA PLUGIN THAT YOU HAVE TO MANUALY ENABLE IN THE SETTINGS OF THE BROWSER PLUGIN SETTING.
YOU CAN EVEN SAVE IMAGES FROM THE WEB!! A FEATURE IE DOES NOT SUPPORT IN XDA 2.
Get it from
http://nfppc.access.co.jp/english/index.html
Dave

no good for me as yet.....just downloaded the trial version before buyin wanted to check it...and good that i didnt buy it...becaz i am behind a firewall and use proxy server to connect to internet from my pda....my pda ----->bluetooth------>my comp---->proxy server----->authorization required....sadly there is no option in netfront to give user name and password for proxy server luckly internet explorer pops up a window for username pass everytime i try to access proxy...
any suggestions ?
regards

have just come to know net front does not support IIS Authentication......

Need to run a large java applet?

I have just bought an Alpine (xda 2i) to upgrade from my himalaya. I really really need to use it to trade on the fx market... which involves me being able to load one applet.
The applet is located here: https://fx1.oanda.com/java/beta.html
I have tried netfront... and after days of trying to find out why this applet does not load even though other applets do, i found out that the java plugin for netfront does not support applets over https.
I tried with thunderhawk too... no success there either, even though they claim that their browser loads applets just as a normal desktop pc.
If anyone can help me load the trading applet on my xda 2i, ill give you a big sloppy kiss!
On another note, while wardriving when a new network comes into site, i get a popup asking if i want to connect and if its for 'work' or 'internet'. I keep having to press hide on all the popups. Does anyone know how i can disable the popups?
TIA
P.S. repect to the programmer of xdadev_all_unlock. Top app!

i need to run a SMALL java applet :shock: , i've been searching for a solution since february 2004 :!: :!: :!: , I'm begging u guys , any help around ?
Many thanks

guess you could try
1 that mini firefox version for pda's
2 that java version of opera

Internet Banking - Is it possible on your PPC?

Hi!
Has anyone tried it? Are you able to access your own account and carry out transaction?
Is it true that even with java installed its not possible because the java on the PPC does not have security features.
What requirements are necessary on your PPC if you're able to perform internet banking.
Thanks

Yup, on my old XDA2 and 2i I needed to do it whilst away on business, etc.
Now I've got an Exec, I imagine when I need to do it again under the 3G network it will be much faster than it was under GPRS.
Ant

RE
Hi Anton.Valleyman,
How did you do that? What softwares do you require like a java software to be installed on your PPC?
Many banking sites can be accessed but cannot login due to lack of security features on the PPC java software
Would you like to sahre your expereince?
Thanks

I'm using Windows Mobile 5.0 but I have not manage to access websites using java.
Anyone can help? I would really appreciate.

RE
andy_sg,
Have you try installing 'Jeode for PPC' a java plugin?

RE
andy_sg,
What java sites are you referring to? Could you provide some?
Thanks

Hi FOSA,
Please try this website and tell me if it works or not.
- http://www.spbo.com/live.htm
Thanks.

difference between smartphone and PPC software tat i don understand..

Can a PPC software use in a Window mobile based smartphones?
are they functioning like in the PPC?
Can the *.cab file used for PPC use in smartphones?

I was just about to answer you, but then I go to the last line of your message.
We do not deal with WAREZ and craks here.

and
sthg about software tat i don understand..
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is something that I don't understand

ok, prehaps i shouldn't ask it tat way... actually the main thg is i just wanna know if there is any possiblity tat we can use PPC softwares on Window mobile based smartphone?

That would depend on the software and the device.
Some will run, some you won't be able to use without touch screen and some will need extra components.

you can try...it's all winCE...
I know some of my old smartphone software works o.k. on my PPC, but PPC is like smartphone's bigger brother: with extras (touchscreen, others, etc.)
The screen is broke on my smartphone now but I seem to remember installing some stuff meant for PPC on there back in the day with varying results. I think some did work, but not a lot worked nicely.
AFAIK you need to port, change a few things (like have no touchscreen input) for a reliable result.

it being winCE is not always enough
binary files are spc for the cpu they were compiled for
but if they have the same cpu and the same libs
it would work
another matter is .net and java they are not written for a spc cpu but for the framework

http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-run-pocket-pc-applications-on.html

Rudegar said:
http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-run-pocket-pc-applications-on.html
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Excellent article. Note that, however, it states all PPC apps run on a Smartphone w/ SPHelper ("Does this mean that they will run the same software? / Yes and no. All Windows Mobile devices (Smartphone, PPC, PPC phone edition, etc) can run the same actual executable code (.exe files) as long as it has been written for a Windows Mobile device. However if you actually try to install PPC software on a Smartphone (or vice versa) using Activesync, you might get an error message stating the device is incorrect and it will refuse to do anything."). This is, however, not really the case. See my related articles and hacking reports - in the articles I've posted in the last 2 weeks, I've posted a LOT of info on interoperability issues.
As a rule of thumb, about 10% of native (NON-Compact Framework-based) PPC programs can be hacked to work on a QVGA Smartphone. On a 176*220 one, even fewer.

bjy8138 said:
Can a PPC software use in a Window mobile based smartphones?
are they functioning like in the PPC?
Can the *.cab file used for PPC use in smartphones?
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Make sure you don't miss ANY of my articles. They are ALL in this very "General" forum.
I've published a LOT of information on these subjects, listing all the compatible software and how they can be hacked.

there should be a special forum for them since there are soo many they cant be sticky
some might get pushed far back

Rudegar said:
there should be a special forum for them since there are soo many they cant be sticky
some might get pushed far back
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Yup, that's a problem.
I'll some time collect the links and put them all in the Wiki so that they are easy to find.

off topic
I'll some time collect the links and put them all in the Wiki so that they are easy to find.
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something like that'd be good, I think we all appreciate informative articles and in-depth tests ...thanks!

Live mesh mobile client available

If you have been using the live mesh technical preview, the mobile client for wm6 is now available. Just sign in as normal and then add device.

I'm still seeing "Coming soon for mobile" The limited Mac tech preview shows up, though.

Bushrod said:
I'm still seeing "Coming soon for mobile" The limited Mac tech preview shows up, though.
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I signed in and out of live mesh and it appeared.

Must not have replicated to the servers I hit yet. I'll keep an eye out. Thanks for the heads-up!

I really like live mesh, (for me at least), it just works out of the box.

Hi !
Is there someone that can post the cab ?
Thanks !
Whatever !
I found it :
http://m.mesh.com/install/wm6/LiveMesh.cab
But it doesn't connect to the mesh : "only available to a limited number of users"

Arrgh this is annoying, Ive been using Mesh for a while and now its comming up with for U.S only wtf?

DMAND said:
Arrgh this is annoying, Ive been using Mesh for a while and now its comming up with for U.S only wtf?
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It says US and UK on the Live Mesh blog. I am however having trouble at the point where it's trying to add the device, possibly because I'm on GPRS at the moment and it might be timing out, I guess.

SQL CE error
When I try to install I get this error message....
"Live Mesh was unable to find a suitable version of SQL CE on this device. Unable to install Live Mesh."
I've tried to install SQL, i downloaded it from microsoft directly, and its listed as "SQLServerCompact 3.5 Core" under Remove Programs....
Any ideas??? I really want to use this....

Yes, it's only for US and UK
I installed the mesh cab, and using an "US" account (a french one, but with my country changed to US ) it WORKS ! And works well. I have now a "cabstore" synced with my own server, live mesh and my TyTN II.
Great service !

Got it last night, works great with my XV6800.

supercluver said:
When I try to install I get this error message....
"Live Mesh was unable to find a suitable version of SQL CE on this device. Unable to install Live Mesh."
I've tried to install SQL, i downloaded it from microsoft directly, and its listed as "SQLServerCompact 3.5 Core" under Remove Programs....
Any ideas??? I really want to use this....
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I've got this exact same problem. I posted over on the Microsoft Mesh forum and am waiting for a conclusive answer. It's been passed over to the Mobile Dev team apparently.
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en/LiveMesh/thread/8e80d590-9c88-4522-bdab-3d23bea718c0
I wonder if it's got anything to do with cooked roms? I'm running CRC WM 6.1 v13.0 on my Hermes.
--Update--
Apparently there is an issue with cooked ROMs as they don't all include SQL. Installing SQL seperately will not help unless you use a version lower the 3.5 but even that has not been proven yet.
I'm going to try and find an older version of SQL and give it a bash.
Further information here:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMeshMobile/thread/b8a6da09-c53a-4168-91bf-f476d2a1876f

Firstly I am in the UK Ive downloaded the updated cab and now everytime I run it it gets past verifying user and then gets stuck on Getting mobile phone identifier and then fails

SQL CE Issue has been identified and resolved
The client needs SQL CE 3.1 installed, and does not work with SQL CE 3.5 installed.
Read and follow information in forum:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMeshMobile/thread/b8a6da09-c53a-4168-91bf-f476d2a1876f/

All working well after applying Jef K's fix over on the Mesh Forum.
Problem now is that the MEsh Client can't acquire my device ID to register the phone onto my mesh.
Issue being delt with over at http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMeshMobile/thread/c7ce844c-a4e3-4be4-838d-1ebdca5986e7

I downloaded the cab but says that I cannot do it because only a limited number of users can right now. How sad...
Does remote desktop work like the desktop version?

courtlandre said:
Does remote desktop work like the desktop version?
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No
You cannot remote desktop to the phone (shame)

Limited Users
Limited Users, anyone else got the same problem?
cheeers Tom

I use mesh for a back up right now and it works great for my home computers. Some things that bugged me are:
No remote desktop.
It will only sync your remote directories to the main memory. I tried to sync my work folder and it didn't place it in the storage card.
It launches external applications to view the mesh folders (Pocket IE) and the file explorer to view local folders.
All in all, a nice first attempt. Build in remote desktop and I would PAY for a service like this!

@Networkguy: it's still the first beta... keep waiting
Unfortunately i can't find a today plugin. This is sad. Anyone has an idea?