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Trying to stay clear of Exchange, but need Push and Sync!

We are using Google for your Domain, and we using Google Calendar, Custom Group Start page, etc. We are all setup that way already and we are just really in love with our setup as it is simple, fast and no-hassles. We don't want to get an exchange server, it seems so complicated, costy and not as compatible (ical, rss, etc).
What we are missing is to be able to get all this data pushed and to sync with our WM5 PDAs.
Right now we are forwarding our emails to a paid exchange service, but we are missing on all the emails that we are sending from our PDAs that do not get sync-ed with gmail.
Also I have read a little bit, but is there a way to sync Gcal with the WM5? We are leaning towards migrating to exchange to be able to have everything sync-ed, but... Google for your Domain is just so great and simple to use (and free...) There has to be a way to push and sync gmail (and contacts), gcal with a WM5! Anyone?

Not sure about push, but check GooSync out.

Google Calendar Sync
5 March 2008 Google Calendar Sync allows you to sync events between Google Calendar and Microsoft Outlook Calendar.
http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=89955
You can now access your Google Calendar account from your mobile phone! Just visit mobile.google.com/calendar/ with your phone's web browser and once you're logged in, you'll see your list of upcoming events with date and time information in an easy-to-browse format.
Cheers
Tom

I suggest kerio Mail Server as a substitute to exchange. It works great with iCal and all of Mac. It also works great with my Tilt.

kudroz said:
We are using Google for your Domain, and we using Google Calendar, Custom Group Start page, etc. We are all setup that way already and we are just really in love with our setup as it is simple, fast and no-hassles. We don't want to get an exchange server, it seems so complicated, costy and not as compatible (ical, rss, etc).
What we are missing is to be able to get all this data pushed and to sync with our WM5 PDAs.
Right now we are forwarding our emails to a paid exchange service, but we are missing on all the emails that we are sending from our PDAs that do not get sync-ed with gmail.
Also I have read a little bit, but is there a way to sync Gcal with the WM5? We are leaning towards migrating to exchange to be able to have everything sync-ed, but... Google for your Domain is just so great and simple to use (and free...) There has to be a way to push and sync gmail (and contacts), gcal with a WM5! Anyone?
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I am not certain whether Funambol will handle Google email, but you might want to check it out (http://www.funambol.com). You can get a free account with them that will handle syncing PIM data and push email, coming from any POP email account. I eventually turned off the push email, since having my data access online 24/7 was running the battery down too fast, but I still use their sync function to transfer contact and calendar information between my phone and Mozilla Thunderbird

I tried this a lot a while back, I spent ages avoiding exchange, I spent hours looking; what I eventually used was a combination of IMAP and Google Calendar. IMAP has the Idle extension which allows mail to be effectively "pushed" to your device, although WM doesn't natively support this I used an add on (I forget the name, it was something like vimail but if you google IMAP Idle WM you'll surely find it or something similar). However I found it hogged my battery, it would only last literally about half a day with this program installed, not sure if it's the program or just a necessary evil of how the IMAP behaviour works.
Alternative you could just sync every 15 mins. That works reasonably well.
That leaves your calendar and Toffa's GooSync program worked quite well for me, synching my google calendar, but it doesn't offer calendar push, and they want you to pay a yearly fee which I think is annoying.
With regards to the previous post I would not recommend Funambol, nor would I recommend ScheduleWorld or Plaxo all of which I found very disappointing and glitchy (I couldn't get Funambol to work at all, actually, and I tried very hard).
This leaves Tasks and Contacts and to the best of my knowledge there is no good way of synching these OTA, so you have to resort to the bane of every WM user's existence which is WMDC/Vista (or Activesync for PC). I heard something about goosync planning to support them, but I'm not sure exactly where your synched items go, you'd have to look.
Now although this is I think the best possible solution I must say I eventually gave up and paid the $10 or whatever for hosted Exchange, which is much more seamless.

sync 2 calendars

Hi
I'm using a WM6.1 device and would like to sync at least the calendar with two exchange servers (2003 SP2). Ideally, i also would like to sync the contacts.
so:
ExchangeWORK <-> WM6.1 <-> ExhangeHOME
Anyone a solution please?
my thanks
Patrick

Not sure this will work, I was going to do something similar, with having all business contacts and appts. on my office computer and peronal on my notebook. The problem is, it's possible everything will get mixed together. So let's say you start with your work server, and all the info is on, now when you sync your home server, it will also grab the work info as well, now you'll just have everything twice, on both servers and your phone. The problem is, it syncs all data in the phone.

This is exactly what i want, just duplicate the date on my workcompu, homecompu and wm6 device.
Problem is that through activesync you can only sync your data (email, contacts, calendar, etc) with one partnership.
but i managed the above by using workaround
i use google calendar sync now and this works nicely
so on my workpc my exchange calendar is synced with my google calendar
and the same trick on my home pc.
not ideal, but it works nicely
now i have to find something for syncing my contacts
any sugestions?
thks
Patrick

I'm not sure about using an Exchange Server, never used myself, but after setting up the one, have you already tried setting up the other?
Also, there is a good chance this will duplicate everything though. Once the second server picks up the info from the first, it will all go back to the first when you sync with it, and visa versa.

Google Calendar/Gmail push

Hey there. Ive been looking for quite a while now, but even the search function in this huge board cant help me out.
I'd like to:
Have my Gmail pushed
Have my Gmail Contacts synced
Have my Google Calendar 2way synced
ive found several possibilities to sync either gmail OR calendar via Exchange, using www.nuevasync.com for Calendar and Contacts OR using mail2web.com for Gmail. Sadly nothing that supports both.
Now, since i cant use 2 Exchange servers with wm 6.1 (im using UdK's Diamond R8 on my Polaris) im kinda stuck.
Does anyone of you know a service that offers both Gmail push and Calendar/Contacts sync, or if its possible to have 2 Exchange servers sync simultaneously, how?
And, to make it worse, id prefer not to use any additional programs like SEVEN or oggsync.
thanks in advance
daschalki

bump :X
any help appreciated

Despite what people may say, it is possible to sync with two Exchange servers. The only way I've been able to do it successfully is to manually create the partnership reg keys in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Partnerships by copying and editing an existing partnership. Do this with ActiveSync closed.
I currently have one server set up to do mail, contacts, tasks and a second exchange server to do only calendaring. If you have multiple Exchange servers with the same services marked (i.e., mail checked for two), things start to get hairy. If you want to try to do calendaring with two servers, you'll need to change the value "NonLocalCrossPolination" in the ActiveSync key to 1, and no guarantees that you won't cause some sort of recursive loop of updates.
Partnerships are treated in LIFO order - Push sync notifications to the device are only recognized by the FIRST partnership listed in ActiveSync, which seems to be the LAST partnership added. This means that 99% of the time you'll want whichever server is set to do mail to be the last one you add. Whenever you receive a push notification that a sync is necessary, all partnerships will check for updates. This normally works just fine since you'll be receiving mail at least as often as you will be making calendar changes.

thanks for the help, ill try to get that workin.

I can confirm that this is working.

Have you seen this from Google?
http://lifehacker.com/5149741/google-sync-keeps-contacts-and-calendars-in-sync-on-your-mobile-phone
this might be what you are looking for

Yeah, Google just started their own sync service using Active Sync.
http://www.google.com/mobile/default/sync.html
Still doesn't sync your mail, but you can always use IMAP

Has anyone been able to use this to sync multiple calendars?

[Q] How to sync emails from PC with Android phone (Galaxy S)?

Hey folks,
I'm sorry this is probably a n00b question but I would like to sync my emails from my PC with my phone.
On the PC I use thunderbird to download all emails (got like 6 email accounts) to the pc and delete them from the server immidiately. (I've had accounts beeing hacked in the past because I left password emails etc in my inbox, so I started to delete them from server instead of leaving them on for more security - so I can't just "download them again" from the phone - I will need to sync the phone with the data from the PC. I could switch my email client program off course if thats needed, but I rather not let the messages lay somewhere online.
Can someone maybe explain to me how that would work or give me a link or smth?
It would be perfect if it would work both sides: Either I sync the phone with the PC or the PC with the phone, or a real sync where just the new emails get exchanged. (On the same time I'd also get this to work for my laptop but phone more important now since i got it heh)
I hope someone can help me.

you can't sync with EVERY email client..
it does sync with outlook/OE... I don't know about thunderbird tho. What you CAN try to do is change the settings to never delete emails from your server when downloaded to your computer and then sync so that when you delete them from your phone they'd be deleted from the server.
get my drift?

hmm well im used to thunderbird, but i dont have to keep using it necessarily. I'd change if it makes this whole syncing easier. Its been bugging me for a while that I didnt have my emails on my laptop but now i also need em on the phone.. so I wanna finally get this to work.
The method you described wouldnt work if I somehow download the emails to the phone first instead of the pc, it would work like u described, but if I'd rather work it in both ways, a real "sync".
With outlook you could do this yea?

Try using Gmail or Windows Live mail, its more compatabile with most wireless. Goto m.live.com or Gmail

well, if you use gmail you can easily keep it on both your computer and your phone and it would sync both ways.

Get a gmail account. Then forward all your email accounts to the gmail account. You can also set the gmail account to send out as one of the other accounts.
Setup the gmail account as an imap client in thunderbird or outlook. Create a folder under the inappropriate account named old emails or whatever. Move the emails stored in your local folders to the folder setup under the imap account (you can do it directly to the inbox if you prefer).
Setup gmail on your mobile device.
Say thanks.
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Cleaner Explanation.
1) Create a Gmail account at Gmail.com (or skip this step if you already have one).
2) Log into the web versions of each of your email accounts. Set the account to forward all emails to the new gmail account address (typically these settings are found under the settings or Options menu somewhere on the page). If you would like to continue to use these accounts you can either:
a) Give Gmail permission to send emails as all the accounts or one in particular. (Note once in the mobile apps, you cannot choose different sender addresses, only the default one. You can however change from each address on the web interface).​ b) Set a forwarder and then specify to leave a message on the server.​
3) Setup the gmail account you created as an IMAP account (use IMAP not SMTP) in thunderbird or Outlook.
a) You can find the Imap settings for desktop clients here.​
4) Once the initial sync is complete, simply drag and drop the emails from the old inbox to the Gmail account's inbox (listed in a tree menu under the IMAP.Gmail.Com listing.
5) You can now set up this email address as a SMTP or IMAP (IMAP keeps the emails on the server. This is a better idea in some cases as you have exact copies of emails on all devices you set them up as.
6) Say thanks
You can also manually do this for each email account you have, but that would take much longer and some companies do not allow or simply haven't moved to using IMAP yet (freaky right?).
Using the gmail way, you have all your emails from all your accounts plus the wonders of google. This is the easiest way to do it I can think of.
I hope my explanation is clean and clear.

thanks for the detailed explanation I guess I'll do it that way.
But the downside that you have to keep the mails on the server still stays this way. I'd really love the option to do a real sync how you expect a sync to be but I guess thats complicated or doesnt work?
I mean like.. when I'm at home .. I download the mails from my desktop pc over usb or wlan. Then I download new emails while I'm travelling or smth - and when I get back home I sync my desktop with the phone emails.
This must work somehow? I'd really hate to have to leave my emails on the server since I got bad experience with this.
I guess I'm just beeing paranoid - but I'm also perfectionist heh, so I'd love to try n get it going "the perfect way" - aka a real offline sync without usage of any server storage. (unless you count my desktop as a server..)

If you setup the system to use smtp on the phone it will dowbload the email, other than that i would suggest using a very good password.
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[Q] Transfer contacts between phone and PC without activesync

My work has turned off the USB ports on our computers. Therefore, I can no longer sync my phone via activesync with Outlook. I've been looking and cannot find a simple way of exporting my contacts and calendar to something that I can then sync my phone to, while preserving all of the data included.
Can someone recommend something that will do this while preserving contact pictures and calendar categories, etc?
FYI, I'm using WinMo 6.5
Thanks.

Upload them online to either Windows Live account or Gmail account.
Gmail preferred. It will store your contacts, calendar, etc.
Otherwise try PIMBackup

I should have stated, that I need to get the contacts and calendar off of my work PC. I know about google sync for calendars, but there isn't something similar for contacts.
The only methods that I have found do not save categories or contact pictures. I'd like to find something that equals what activesync can do when it transfers new info to my phone.