Hi, I had several pictures that I took for my friend, but before I got a chance to send them, my device (XDA IIs) performed a hard reset.
Is there any way to perform a file recovery on the device?
I understand that the memory is shared between storage and running apps, so I havent used the device for anything after it turned back on, so I think there still is a chance of the pictures being on the system.
If there is any way/ any programs that would do it, I would greatly appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks,
RM
Alright, I think there might be a solution
if I use pmemdump of the flashram (or user ram?!), and then raw-write that onto an SD card, I can then use something like Ontrack Easy Recovery in RAW recovery mode.
My next problem is: What is the address of the start of the memory where the files can be kept? And whats the length of memory that I need to dump?
no ram cant be undeleted
when ram is reset the data is lost forever
just lake the ram on your pc if you reset it without saving it's lost
Ok. I thought it was flash ram instead of regular ram...
the only part which is flash on a himalaya with 2003
is the dir called storage
and the extented rom
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Is there a hack for 'large program memory, rather than 'big storage'? Or is it the same thing?
Thanks for any advice, M
Program memory and storage memory is shared- BigStorage releases the previously unusable storage, therefore increasing program and storage memory.
Just use the slider to dedicate more memory to programs...although this auto adjusts itself as and when required.
Thanks that makes BIG storage worth trying. For now I got a only around 35 MB free, with all apps in storage folder and sd-card. Trying to move even more executables from ram to storage or sd. Works fine uptill now.
Sincerely, M
Try memmaid as well to move dlls and executables from \windows\ to storage.
V
Will give a try, but apps like album and camera (both approximately 500K) saved me a lot of ram. I noticed that the default album and camera are in rom, so don't take any ram, though visibke in windiws folder.
Gr. M
BIG-storage try didn't work out. After the flash back of the changed (MKS method) rom, the device stays black and will only go into bootloader. This last saved my device I guess. I tried a restore with the original 1.13 shipped rom and got the device back. Unfortunately I lost my storage folder in this and ext-rom still exists. Is there a way to get the storage folder back? Even with ext-rom is acceptable.
Thnx byba very sad M.
Boot loader magician
OLTP, I had the same problem (only boot loader working and after reinstalling 113 storage gone ), I simply tried reinstalling again and got storage back. I also did a soft reset immediately after first boot after reinstalling 113, so before the programs in extended rom would install. This freed about 25MB working memory although extended rom is still -of course- not editable. I only installed the camera and ended up with a lean magician, and no GPRS bug.
Thnx Mozart,
Will give it another try. I think you mean you installed twice the 1.13 shipped rom? Cause I tried the SD flas twice with no result, a very dead and empty magician. I did do the soft-reset before the ext-rom would autoexec and that didn't help.
So olpnly question now is, did you do the SD flash twice or the upgrade with shipped 1.13 after the failed SD flash.
Thnx in advance, M
Ps. glad I am not the only one with this problem.
I tried the SD-method 3 times, then gave up, and then reinstalled T-Mobiles latest (1.13) rom. I had to use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to do this, by the way...., because the SD-flash had ruined the ID of my magician. It is still ruined, but at least my magician is alive and well.
Too bad, I tried the shipped rom for the third time now and still no storage. For the rest my magician is OK. Did not have to use the noid upgrade patch or anything like it. Though the shipped rom claims the device is empty. When I find a decent extracted rom I will try again.
Sincerely, M
Hi all,
I'm french, so excuse my bad englsih.
I had a Pocket PC on Windows Mobile 2003 First Edition and i backup my system to my ROM memory. After a new ROM installation (Windows 2003 Second Edition), i can't see this backup file in ROM, and now i have only 1Mo in ROM Memory.
How can i erase the old backup file ? Total Commander & Co can't see the file also...
Thanks a lot for you help !
Regards,
Bertrand
Please specify exactly what device do you have.
(I am not familiar with devices that got upgraded from 2003 to 2003SE)
The reason you cant see your backup is because its gone. When you reflash your device (upgrade the ROM) the File Store (where you save stuff you don't want deleted during hard reset) is also formatted. The reason you only have 1 MB storage left could be one of two things:
A) The new ROM takes more space.
B) Something went wrong during the upgrade and the ROM was not properly partitioned.
NOTE:
There is no way to recover this data. It is recommended that you backup important stuff to SD card or your PC (ActiveSync has a backup function).
I have a PDA, a "Yakumo Alpha GPS" (equal to "Acer N35").
Yesterday, I installed wrong ROM to try to free ROM Storage, and the install have been down. So, I reinstall Windows Moblie Seconde Edition, and now my ROM Storage is 0.2 MO. (
So, yes, I think that an installation was down one week ago, and that's why i had less ROM Storage.
PLease, tell me it's possible to recover my ROM Storage...
Hi beber49!
I am not sure of the details, but I can point you in the right direction and after some searching you should have the solution:
Find a device with the original ROM, there are instructions in the wiki on how to backup ROM to SD then restore. I think if you manage to reflash your device with the original ROM you might get your storage back.
But be careful: If the reflash is not done properly, you may loose all of the free storage or even kill the device.
Sorry, that's all I have. Hope someone gives you a better idea!
i tryed that but no way to see these file...
Hi, I'm looking for more info on how the memory is partitioned between storage and programs. I don't quite understand how a hard reset is equivalent to a reinstall, and how it works.
Is there a site or book with more information on this? Any help or pointer would be greatly appreciated!
a pocketpc have ram and rom
rom is read only memory
the os is located in rom
and storage and application memory is in ram
how much you want to have free for application ram
and how much you want to use as storage is up to you using the memory slider
a hardreset or too long without batt
clear the ram leaving the os which is in rom
as the only thing on the pocketpc
which is why it's the same thing as a reinstall
because all the stuff you put on it are gon
leaving what the maker of the device put in the rom
but with 2005 things have changed a bit
here some of the flash rom is used for storage
and all ram is used for application memory
(though buzz and the lads made it so some of the ram can be used for stroage on older HTC devices which otherwise only have 32MB)
here a hardreset dont mean a reinstall
if you want to clear the device to default you have to format
the storage from inside the bootloader
I think what he meant is the one shown in "Settings"->"Memory"->"Main"
Think of the "Storage" as the hardisk of your PC and "Program" as the RAM of your PC. For WM5, when you soft reset your unit, the "Program" memory will be cleared off and program will be loaded again into this "Program" memory.
As for the "Storage", it is the `hardisk` where you have your OS installed. The OS is kept in the ROM (which I don't think is part of the "Storage"), and it is installed into your "Storage" everytime you perform a hard reset. (e.g. the "Storage" will be wipe clearn upon a hard reset). Anything that you do, e.g. edit file, add contact, etc. will be recorded/saved into this "Storage".
Thanks for the replies. So what I see when I browse the device, including the 'windows' folder, that's a copy of the operating system, and the original master copy is in the ROM?
So theoretically, I could go and delete the whole windows folder, perform a hard reset, and everything would be fine?
Has anyone already tried to see what could be reasonnably removed from the windows folder in order save 'storage' space?
Cheers!
no whats in the windows dir is the os which is stored in the rom
you cant remove things in the rom
no whats in the windows dir is the os which is stored in the rom
you cant remove things in the rom
I'll reply to my own question in order to close this thread and make it useful to others:
(from pocketpcdubai)
The Universal comes with 128MB ROM and 64MB RAM as compared to its predecessors who had the exact opposite.
The 128MB ROM is divided into 2 parts:
1) OS + Extended ROM (around 84MB)
2) Storage (remaining 43.5MB as shown above
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And this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx
He guys,
I've updated a S710 for a customer of mine but he forgot that he had some notes on the internal memory that he really needs.
Anybody know a way to do this. Already tried a normal data recovery program but this doesn't see a smartphone....)-;
I'm afraid that hard reset formats the nand flash and all data is really lost.
I'm not sure though. You can try to use the "pdocread" program to dump the windows and extrom partitions and see if you can still find customer data in them. Check out the Vox wiki for a howto.
Don`t bother in that matter. If notes was in internal memory, then after reset is lost for good, taft.
Hi techie friends,
My unrooted g2x is stuck in a reboot loop. Before I do a hard reset (power/volume down), I would like to retrieve my photos, which are stored in the internal memory. Is there a way? [Here is what I tried so far: I tried a soft reset (battery out) with no success. I connected the g2x to my PC but it is invisible. I tried holding just the volume down key and got a "s/w upgrade, please wait while upgrading..." screen. Is there any hope to retrieve my photos? I googled the issue and found nothing useful.] Thank you in advance for trying to help me! Catherine
Im having the same issue on a friends G2X... nobody has the answer?
hmmmmm, this is an interesting one. the very first thing i would do is get that phone backed up. you will need to flash a custom recovery(clockwork mod) in order to make a backup. search the development section. once you have a backup on your sdcard, i'd copy it to my pc. thinking.......
from recovery, you can try "fix permissions".
reboot. if that doesn't work, go back to recovery>advanced>wipe dalvik cache. reboot. if that doesn't work, try recovery again>mounts and storage and mount everything listed. see if the drives open up under "my computer" on your pc. for me, that last option doesn't work. but it could just be my pc or my recovery version.
or, you could flash any rom you want, and then mount the phone to your pc. then try running a data recovery program on the internal sdcard.
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
forget the link i posted above. it seems it has trouble reading the internal sd. but i'm running get data back right now. it seems like it's working fine. if these pictures are absolutely worth saving, you might have to dish out some cash for a data recovery app. but always use a trial version first to make sure it works. and once you flash a new rom, keep the phone off until you are ready to run a recovery app. the less that gets written to the drive, the better your chances for retrieving those pics.
or, you can try this... https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hexamob.hexamobrecoverypro&feature=search_result . you'll need to be rooted and have superuser app on your phone. but this looks like the cheapest alternative. i have never used it though. reviews look good though.
I'm pretty sure a hard reset doesn't touch anything located on the sdcard. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it should only format the 1GB partition where the android system is installed and apps are stored. You will basically be starting with a fresh install, but should still have anything stored on your sdcard still intact.
G2X CM7
Hmmm,
Can't you just mount the internal memory via the latest Clockwork Recovery which is as I recall 4.0.0.2?
It worked the last time (the same option with the same trouble) on my Vibrant 3G
phburks said:
I'm pretty sure a hard reset doesn't touch anything located on the sdcard. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it should only format the 1GB partition where the android system is installed and apps are stored. You will basically be starting with a fresh install, but should still have anything stored on your sdcard still intact.
G2X CM7
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Actually, you are right. HR will not erase the SD content and I also think that it will leave the the internal NANDs partition intact. But I dont know where the pics in this case are stored.
Correct if I'm wrong.
Antigen said:
Actually, you are right. HR will not erase the SD content and I also think that it will leave the the internal NANDs partition intact. But I dont know where the pics in this case are stored.
Correct if I'm wrong.
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Camera pics are stored under DCIM on the sdcard. Really any user created content/files (pics, music, videos, documents, etc) are on the memory card and shouldn't be touched by a hard reset. So I think youre in the clear if that's the route you go.
G2X CM7