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Bluetooth OBEX PUSH - Change default location

Hello,
I have a MDA Wizard and have been trying to change the default location of the files transferred to the storage card with no success. I changed the BaseDir value in the registry, but it does not work. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

yea me too, im looking for a solution. changed BaseDir and even change the My Documents path to Storage Card. Nothing so far. anyone know?

New location for files received by bluetooth
I came accross this program in this forum somewhere. Really good. Give it a try.
Just run the cab file and soft reset. After that, run the program whenever you want to switch bluetooth on and it puts a bluetooth icon on the system tray. double click icon and go to settings and set the dir where you want to receive the file and you're ready to go.
I've tried getting a really big file too just to see if this merely moves the file to the other location after receiving or actually changes the location of incoming files and found out it changes the location.
Let me know if this works for you.

hay damac
see thas :wink:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46443
and Version 1.5 Coming Soon

Partial Success...
This is an old thread but I think is directly related to what I'm trying to do. I've seen many other threads trying to solve the same problem, so I won't create a new one. Anyway, first, here is the info:
AT&T 8525
HERM: 100
ROM: 3.62.502.3 (Offical AT&T)
Results:
Successfully transfered 2 test files from my laptop (XP SP2 Tosiba Bluetooth 4.00.22D) directly to my storage card:
AdbeRdr80_en_US.exe - 21,822,168 bytes
Tears of a Dragon.mp4 - 8,572,344 bytes
How:
Added a STRING value BaseDir to the HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\OBEX\{000...} set to: "/Storage Card/"
Problem / Temporary Solution:
Using Resco I can see the file in the Storage Card as soon as the beam is over, however the OBEX prompts you if you want to save the file or not. If you click NO the file gets deleted. If you click YES, the file gets moved after two seconds to \My Documents or some files just go nowhere(?). So before I actually answer the prompt, I just copy the file elsewhere on my card and then click NO on the prompt.
Analysis / Conclusions (so far):
1. The official AT&T ROM does not have OBEX FTP service installed (obexfile.dll). It only has the OBEX Default Inbox service (obexinbx.dll).
2. The obexinbx.dll is not behaving as expected. Ex: Why "/Storage Card/" vs. "\Storage card\"; Adding the DWORD value DisableUI does not eliminate the prompts as it should; If I delete the TransportAuntheticate value in the same key, it just reappears, yet the dll is not supposed to use that value as per MSDN2.
Could somebody try to duplicate my results and/or see if there is a way to disable the prompts? Thanks in advance!

Has anyone tried this? Please?
Here are some screenshots to better explain what is happening:
1. Add BaseDir value to the OBEX key.
2. Send test file from my laptop.
3. PPC displays 1st UI prompt (recfileprompt.jpg)
4. Laptop displays progress indicator for file transfer. (progress.jpg)
5. When transfer is complete, PPC display 2nd UI prompt. (uiprompt.jpg)
6. I can confirm the test file did transfer to the SD card (fileinssdcard.jpg)
7. If I click on YES the file disappears (but some files get moved to \My Documents). If I Click NO the file disappears.
So... Is there a way to get rid of these prompts? Or to make them not move or delete the file once is in the SD Card?
Thanks,

dgaud007 said:
Here are some screenshots to better explain what is happening:
1. Add BaseDir value to the OBEX key.
2. Send test file from my laptop.
3. PPC displays 1st UI prompt (recfileprompt.jpg)
4. Laptop displays progress indicator for file transfer. (progress.jpg)
5. When transfer is complete, PPC display 2nd UI prompt. (uiprompt.jpg)
6. I can confirm the test file did transfer to the SD card (fileinssdcard.jpg)
7. If I click on YES the file disappears (but some files get moved to \My Documents). If I Click NO the file disappears.
So... Is there a way to get rid of these prompts? Or to make them not move or delete the file once is in the SD Card?
Thanks,
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Unfortunately, the contents of my HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\OBEX\ are the folders Services and Transport. There is no {0000-0000...} folder there. It exists though in the folder Services, so for my device, it is HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\OBEX\SERVICES\{0000...}. After adding the key, the temporary storage for the received file is ideed SD Card so I can grab it before responding to the prompt.
Nevertheless, either if I respond YES or NO for the file save prompt, the file is deleted from SD Card and does not reappear anywhere on the device, so it does not get moved, but deleted.
Notes:
For me it does not matter weather I write "/Storage Card/" or "\Storage Card\", it still receives to Storage Card, but regardless of what I choose, YES or NO, it deletes the file.

tnyynt said:
Unfortunately, the contents of my HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\OBEX\ are the folders Services and Transport. There is no {0000-0000...} folder there. It exists though in the folder Services, so for my device, it is HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\OBEX\SERVICES\{0000...}. After adding the key, the temporary storage for the received file is ideed SD Card so I can grab it before responding to the prompt.
Nevertheless, either if I respond YES or NO for the file save prompt, the file is deleted from SD Card and does not reappear anywhere on the device, so it does not get moved, but deleted.
Notes:
For me it does not matter weather I write "/Storage Card/" or "\Storage Card\", it still receives to Storage Card, but regardless of what I choose, YES or NO, it deletes the file.
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Exactly. This is the best I could get it to work, by just copying or moving the file to another SD Card location (or renaming it) before responding to the prompt. Anyway, this is kind of an old post. I had orginally done this since Dr. Yar crashed on my phone. Since then, I discovered HTC Bluetooth FTP Explorer 1.2, which adds an FTP tab to your Bluetooth Connections settings, where you can specify the default location for incoming bluetooth files.
Thanks for trying it out though!
PS,
I was trying to upload HTC Bluetooth cab, but there is a problem with the database. Anyway, I got it from VP3G's AddOn pack in the Hermes forum. A quick search should find it for you.

dgaud007 said:
Exactly. This is the best I could get it to work, by just copying or moving the file to another SD Card location (or renaming it) before responding to the prompt. Anyway, this is kind of an old post. I had orginally done this since Dr. Yar crashed on my phone. Since then, I discovered HTC Bluetooth FTP Explorer 1.2, which adds an FTP tab to your Bluetooth Connections settings, where you can specify the default location for incoming bluetooth files.
Thanks for trying it out though!
PS,
I was trying to upload HTC Bluetooth cab, but there is a problem with the database. Anyway, I got it from VP3G's AddOn pack in the Hermes forum. A quick search should find it for you.
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I don't know whether you are referring to this (which is inside my rom), but look at my settings. Even with these, Bluetooth still receives to Device and saves to Device\My Documents.

tnyynt said:
I don't know whether you are referring to this (which is inside my rom), but look at my settings. Even with these, Bluetooth still receives to Device and saves to Device\My Documents.
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Yes. That's it. It works fine for me. Is your SD Card name "Storage Card"? I would also try using the browse button and selecting different folders inside the SD Card.

dgaud007 said:
Yes. That's it. It works fine for me. Is your SD Card name "Storage Card"? I would also try using the browse button and selecting different folders inside the SD Card.
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Just tried. Same thing!

Well. That is strange. I don't have a Trinity. I have a Hermes. What I would do at this point, is first, try installing the BT FTP cab over your existing one (backup first!). If that doesn't work, try removing/re-inserting the SD Card and also if possible another SD Card. Could there be a write access-protect restriction on your card that forces the OS to use the default My Documents location?
Anyway I have to go back now to my other life , but if I think of something else I'll let you know. Sorry you have problems

OBEX vs FTP
That bluetooth setting is only for FTP transfers. OBEX is the "native" transfer protocol that phones et al. use. Changing the setting for FTP received files doesn't alter the OBEX ones!
I'm going to try Dr Yar, but would love to find a registry setting for this!

I've just found this one as a cure, about to try it..
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-obexinboxex.html

[Q] WM6 Save mail to storage card not working?

Tried the 'save mail to storage card' cab from SurrealNetworks, and it doesn't work for WM6 on the Dash. I checked the registry, and the updates were made by the cab. Does anyone know if there are different entries needed?
Or has anyone had any luck getting this to work?
Sucks wasting 20mb on my work email on the device and not the card...

dboone21 said:
Tried the 'save mail to storage card' cab from SurrealNetworks, and it doesn't work for WM6 on the Dash. I checked the registry, and the updates were made by the cab. Does anyone know if there are different entries needed?
Or has anyone had any luck getting this to work?
Sucks wasting 20mb on my work email on the device and not the card...
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The Key in WM6 is:
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
Or wherever on the card you want it stored.
I found this by activating the save attachments to Storage Card option, then searching the registry for the key, once I found that location above, I added the PropertyPath value for the storage card location in the same key.
Reboot and it should be good...but you will probably have the issue maybe with it creating a Storage Card folder upon reboot because many devices the mail starts before the storage card. If that is the case, take your SD card out, rename the Storage Card folder to Storage Card.bak, shut down the device. Put SD card in, reboot, and leave the .bak folder there forever.
At least that is what works on the Wizard to get mail on the SD card. Now I have 2000+ emails and attachments on my storage card, no issues across reboots, working fine.
Good luck any problems, report back..

Does the AttachPath also work here? Think that would be even more useful.

jnmarshall said:
Does the AttachPath also work here? Think that would be even more useful.
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Yes, you can move attachments through the options in the interface to the storage card. That is how I found the new location of the mail on the SD path is by searching the registry after the tweak as I mentioned above.

Looks like it works on the Dash!
techlogik said:
The Key in WM6 is:
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
Or wherever on the card you want it stored.
I found this by activating the save attachments to Storage Card option, then searching the registry for the key, once I found that location above, I added the PropertyPath value for the storage card location in the same key.
Reboot and it should be good...but you will probably have the issue maybe with it creating a Storage Card folder upon reboot because many devices the mail starts before the storage card. If that is the case, take your SD card out, rename the Storage Card folder to Storage Card.bak, shut down the device. Put SD card in, reboot, and leave the .bak folder there forever.
At least that is what works on the Wizard to get mail on the SD card. Now I have 2000+ emails and attachments on my storage card, no issues across reboots, working fine.
Good luck any problems, report back..
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Seems to be working!! Thanks!

How Can I Find This Path?
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
i cant find this one? should i creacte this HKML? this folder i cant find it in FILE EXPLORER in mt dash.. thanks help me out here pls thanks

hklm is a registry folder... you will need a registry editor to modify it.

thanks i got it...

disable tmobileblue homescreen
How can i change this default homescreen everytime i restart my dash it keep changing the homescreen?

techlogik said:
The Key in WM6 is:
HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings
add "PropertyPath" value="\Storage Card\Mail" datatype="string"
Or wherever on the card you want it stored.
I found this by activating the save attachments to Storage Card option, then searching the registry for the key, once I found that location above, I added the PropertyPath value for the storage card location in the same key.
Reboot and it should be good...but you will probably have the issue maybe with it creating a Storage Card folder upon reboot because many devices the mail starts before the storage card. If that is the case, take your SD card out, rename the Storage Card folder to Storage Card.bak, shut down the device. Put SD card in, reboot, and leave the .bak folder there forever.
At least that is what works on the Wizard to get mail on the SD card. Now I have 2000+ emails and attachments on my storage card, no issues across reboots, working fine.
Good luck any problems, report back..
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actually I had to add also key "AttachPath" with value "\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments" without quotas.
I did it on HP514 Voice messenger with WM6. The main issue was actually to rename "storage card" on "storage card.bak" and taking card out and reboote. After I started again when I saw new folder "Mail" created on Storage Card I was happy as a kid. I just moved with file explorer all *.att to attachment folder and all *.mpb to Mail folder from \Windows\Messaging. Then I opened Outlook and everything was there as nothing happened. All stored on memory card, damm so goooood. I like you guys,
Ceslo
You made my day, man, thaks.
Ceslo

Saving Mail to Storage card on Smartphone Edition/WM6 Standard
Hi, i am new to reg edit on WM devices, what are the exact values i need to put in to make this happen, any screenshots????. Given todays storage capabilites, this is a huge mistake by Microsoft considering its a standard setting, i have had 4 work colleagues with S620s or S710s all run out of phone memory, Microsoft were not helpful at all
Many thx,
Rich

Thank you thank you thank you
Oye, man, I was going nuts trying to figure out why the HKCU\...\MAPI modification wouldn't work and FINALLY found your post. It's all good now. I guess the moral of the story is don't assume WM5 and WM6 are the same. Uh, duh?

techlogik said:
I found this by activating the save attachments to Storage Card option
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Hi,
Where is this "save attachments to storage card" option found in the settings?
-John

"Access is Denied"
Does anyone know why I would get a "Access is Denied" message when I try to add a value to the HKLM\System\Inbox\Settings hive?
I'm trying to edit the registry on an HTC S710.
Cheers,
Geoff.

mtn_lion said:
Oye, man, I was going nuts trying to figure out why the HKCU\...\MAPI modification wouldn't work and FINALLY found your post. It's all good now. I guess the moral of the story is don't assume WM5 and WM6 are the same. Uh, duh?
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What Registry editor did you use?

Hi Guys,
after doing the tweak and rebooting i had a folder named Storage Card and my real card renamed to Store Card2. Guess the system created the path as the card was not available early enough. Caused a lot of error messages..
any suggestions?

ceslovic said:
actually I had to add also key "AttachPath" with value "\Storage Card\Mail\Attachments" without quotas.
I did it on HP514 Voice messenger with WM6. The main issue was actually to rename "storage card" on "storage card.bak" and taking card out and reboote. After I started again when I saw new folder "Mail" created on Storage Card I was happy as a kid. I just moved with file explorer all *.att to attachment folder and all *.mpb to Mail folder from \Windows\Messaging. Then I opened Outlook and everything was there as nothing happened. All stored on memory card, damm so goooood. I like you guys,
Ceslo
You made my day, man, thaks.
Ceslo
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Hi guys, I tried the adding property path but faced problem.
I'm using Samsung i600 and mobile registry editor. When i try to add the string it says access is denied (error setting value). Really appreciate if someone can give me a step by step guide as I'm not familiar with registry editting. i.e What to put in the value name and value data fields.
Thanks.
Azril

I have HTC (8925(Tilt) and after doing the tweak and rebooting my card renamed to Store Card2.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Does anyone know how to do this with BBConnect mail files? I really need to move my bb mail files

doing the storagecard.bak thing doesnt work...??
New here (and to WM for that matter - had Symbian).
So ive read all over the place about trying to change the mail to the SD. here is my situation (similar to a few here):
changed the relevant reg keys
on reboot i get the "storage card2" phenomena
tried the .bak but to no avail
so ive seen people say "take messaging out of today screen" and that windows live if installed will also make trouble. Notice i only use the pop3/IMAP default client (and no exchange and such).
questions:
how do i take the messaging out of today?
if i dont use the LIve just have it installed is that an issue (and if so..what do i do
assuming i take out messaging from today - i will need to make some softkey take me there - how is that done for my device
I use an HTC Cavalier (S630)
p.s - i saw someone just solved the issue by doing the following after reboot - take out SD, delete storage card folder, put sd back in and voila...but that is too low tech. can i write some sort of batch file that will dismount the SD, delete that folder and remount? after all i reboot only occasinally

Problem with programs installed on memory card

Hi guys, I have a question about installing apps on the phone. Btw i'm using HTC Touch Pro and non-modified firmware or custom ROM or anything, i only just got it a few days ago and haven't done anything to it.
And i'm still new to using Windows Mobile so please bare with my noob questions.
Ok so I noticed that when I install apps on the phone's internal memory, it shows up under the Programs list. But if i install apps on the memory card, it shows up under the Program list as well but it doesn't work. I.e, when i try to launch the app that is installed on the memory card, it doesn't work, it just shows an error saying something about missing files or invalid certificate.
Correct me if i'm wrong but all the apps/games shown in the Programs list folder are just shortcuts right? Well i'm guessing that the apps installed on the memory card created shortcuts that didn't give the correct folder path. And also, apps that don't work show the same icon, like a dead shortcut icon on your PC.
Ok so my problem is, my internal memory is almost full and I have a 8GB memory card, is there a way i can make programs installed on the memory card show up properly under the Programs list or make them work properly??
PS: Just a side question, it seems that if your phone doesn't have a sim card slot then it's CDMA, but some other guy told me that his phone is CDMA but has a sim card slot, so how can I really tell if my phone is GSM or CDMA?

it depends on the app. some apps have to be installed on the internal memory. filling up your internal memory is quite impressive though.. or i just don't install that many apps. i think most games and such should be able to be installed on external though. what types of apps aren't working? or are none of them working?
and if it has a sim slot, it's GSM.

fatpandas said:
it depends on the app. some apps have to be installed on the internal memory. filling up your internal memory is quite impressive though.. or i just don't install that many apps. i think most games and such should be able to be installed on external though. what types of apps aren't working? or are none of them working?
and if it has a sim slot, it's GSM.
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thanks for the reply. None of the apps i've installed on external memory work when i try to launch them from the Programs folder. I have to manually go to my memory card ---> Program Files and then go into the folders to launch the app itself, then it works. But the shortcuts created under the Program list don't work.
I even tried to manually make a shortcut from the original.exe file on my memory card and then paste it in the Programs list which is found in the internal memory ---> Windows ---> Start Menu ---> Programs.
But that doesn't work either......
for example, i installed Google Maps on my memory card and i can only make it work but going to the folder and launch it manually. But if i installed it on my internal memory, then i can simply find the shortcut under Programs list and launch it.
I hope i didn't make it sound confusing.

I don't know what you're doing wrong, but you're clearly screwing something up, lol. Are you installing to main memory and then cutting and pasting the program folder to your sd card? That's a guaranteed way to kill a link. You could get total commander (google) and use it to edit the links manually. Or, use sk tools to either install your cabs or to relocate the files to the sd card. You can also use TC to make shorcuts and send them to the start menu.

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Farmer Ted said:
I don't know what you're doing wrong, but you're clearly screwing something up, lol. Are you installing to main memory and then cutting and pasting the program folder to your sd card? That's a guaranteed way to kill a link. You could get total commander (google) and use it to edit the links manually. Or, use sk tools to either install your cabs or to relocate the files to the sd card. You can also use TC to make shorcuts and send them to the start menu.
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no no........ok i'll start over.
First off, no matter if you install apps on your Main Memory (internal memory), OR if you install on the Memory Card, the shortcuts to the program will always be created in the "Programs" folder, which is located at the following path, "C:/Windows/Start Menu/Programs". Where C: is your Main Memory (internal memory of the phone).
If that was confusing then think of it as if you're using a proper PC. If you have 2 hardrives, C: and D: drive, then no matter if you install games or programs on either of them, the shortcuts will always be created on your Desktop.
So my problem is, my C:/ drive or Internal memory of the phone only has 300MB and it's running out. I have a 8GB memory card so I obviously want to install apps/games on it. The thing is, whenever I try to launch an app that is installed on the memory card, it doesn't work. What i mean by that is, after installing an app, I go to Start Menu --> Programs and then launch the shortcut, and it won't work. That only happens if the app is installed on the memory card.
HOWEVER, if i go to the Memory Card ---> Program Files and then launch the app, it works.
Now think of this again as a real PC. When you install something on your D:/ drive, it creates the shortcut on the desktop. You then launch the shortcut on the desktop but it doesn't start. BUT, if you go to My Computer ---> D:/ ---> Program Files and then launch the app from there, it works fine.
So does that make sense?? I'm thinking that the shortcuts created by the apps installed on the memory card don't give the correct path, that's why it doesn't launch.
I've also tried to copy the original.exe file from the memory card to the Programs folder but it doesn't work. *NOTE* this is the part you got wrong, i'm not trying to install on the main memory and cutting and pasting the folder to memory card, i'm trying to do it the other way round but only making a shortcut in the Programs folder, not cutting and pasting.
So again, back to the real example, it's like i'm going to My Computer, then D:/Program Files/Example folder and copying "Example.exe" and pasting it on desktop. I'm simply making a shortcut from the original file to the desktop, just like i'm making a shortcut to the Programs folder on the phone.
My Start Menu is full and i've already assigned all my most-used apps to the list so i can't replace any of them. By the way, is there a way to add more than 8 apps to the start menu?? Is there a registry tweak for this because i want to add more than just 8. I already have Total Commander but don't know how to use it to edit the links manually. Please help me on this.
BTW, how do people normally install apps on the memory card and then launch the apps? This is pretty stupid since i have to fix the invalid shortcuts created.

I just counted, and I have 33 different programs on my card, all with shortcuts in the start menu. 1. You can create sub-folders in the start menu. That's where you organize the ones not in your top 7. 2. Check the path of your bad shortcuts w/ TC. Highlight the .lnk file, then push the pen icon. The path should look like this:
53#"\Storage Card\Program Files\Opera Mobile\OperaL.exe"
If the path is ok, then I don't know why your shortcuts aren't working. Keep in mind, the shorcut location is irrelevant. You can move a shortcut anywhere you want, and it will work fine. Change the location of the .exe, and you're in a pickle. You've got the programs in a properly named location (no typos), I hope.

Farmer Ted said:
I just counted, and I have 33 different programs on my card, all with shortcuts in the start menu. 1. You can create sub-folders in the start menu. That's where you organize the ones not in your top 7. 2. Check the path of your bad shortcuts w/ TC. Highlight the .lnk file, then push the pen icon. The path should look like this:
53#"\Storage Card\Program Files\Opera Mobile\OperaL.exe"
If the path is ok, then I don't know why your shortcuts aren't working. Keep in mind, the shorcut location is irrelevant. You can move a shortcut anywhere you want, and it will work fine. Change the location of the .exe, and you're in a pickle. You've got the programs in a properly named location (no typos), I hope.
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I didn't change the folder name or folder location or anything, when i install the app, everything just installs to the default directory. When I install to main memory, the apps are installed in Program Files (logically), and same with when i install to the memory card. I didn't alter the paths or anything.......so i don't know wot's going on either
Anyway regarding SK Tools, if i install cab files with it, will it create the shortcuts properly? Is this how you install your cab files normally?
And is there a way like a registry tweak to change the default installation path from main memory to the memory card?
EDIT:
Ok i've just tried using SK Tools v4.1.25, i went to the setting and ticked "associate SKTools with .cab files" or something like that. I then chose Cab Manager, one of the options in SKTools and tried installing a cab file and everything installed fine except the same problem still occurs, i try to launch the shortcut in the "Programs" folder and still couldn't launch.
And also, some .cab files can't be installed with SKTools, as it shows the error message saying: "This file is not Windows CE CAB package", even though i can install it normally with the default installer.

sorry for double post but it's gonna look really long if i edit my previous post so i think it'll look better and easier, i've added some screenshots to show what my problem is, i think it's less confusing this way. Sorry that my phone is in chinese, but i haven't hacked the ROM etc to change it to english yet so please bare with me.
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This shows the Start Menu, and where the green highlighted icon is the "Programs Files" list.
This obviously shows the list of programs in the "Program Files" folder. As you can see, there's an icon called Fennec that seems dead or invalid. And it is. Fennec is a browser made by Mozilla btw. I have installed Fennec in my memory card and that's the shortcut created during the installation, I haven't done any copy or pasting yet.
As you can see when i try to launch the Fennec shortcut, it popped up this error saying something about invalid certificate or missing files. Therefore i can't launch the app.
Now, this shows the default File Manager used by Windows Mobile. As you can see on the top left icon, i am in the root directory of the memory card. As you can see, the Program Files folder is highlighted.
This shows the Program Files folder, every program or .cab files I install on the memory card go straight to this folder, I didn't create it or anything. As you can see, the folder Fennec is created here as i've said earlier that i've installed Fennec on the memory card.
Inside the Fennec folder, the fennec.exe file is highlighted. That's the original.exe file i've been talking about the whole time in my previous posts. If I launch this file, it works. I didn't take a screenshot coz it takes too long to launch but the point is, it works fine when i launch the original file from the memory card ---> Program Files. But as you can see in my 3rd screenshot, the shortcut created during the installation doesn't work. Again I must stress at this point, I did not create the shortcut, it was created during installation, just like a program or game creates a shortcut on your Desktop on a computer.
NOW AT THIS POINT, I am showing you that i'm making a copy of the original file. We're still inside the same folder as the above screenshot. I am not cutting and pasting, but just making a copy.
Now this shows me going back to the Main Memory --> Windows --> Start Menu --> Programs List. As you can see the top left icon is different.
Now, i'm simply pasting the Fennec.exe file I copied earlier in the Programs List folder, which is located in Main Memory --> Windows --> Start Menu --> Programs List, same as the screenshot above.
Now FINALLY, going back to Start Menu --> Programs List, I am now in the folder again like we began in the first 2 screenshots. As you can see, there're 2 Fennec files in the folder now, the one in the middle with the proper fox icon is the file i obviously just pasted. The one on the right is the one created during the installation.
NOW, if i launch the file i just pasted, i.e the one with the fox icon, it shows the same error again as shown in the screenshot.
SO WTF IS GOING ON?? I can only launch apps installed on memory card by going to its folder, but if i make a shortcut in the Programs List folder, it still doesn't work!
I hope that's less confusing now, i've tried my best.....

Ok, that's a lot, lol.
First, with sk tools you can use the cab manager to install programs with sk tools. This is useful because some cabs are not uninstallable (wish there were a better way of saying that). These cabs don't appear in the installed programs list and they normally go to main memory. If you use sk tools to install them, then sk will keep installation records, and if you go to the installed programs section of sk tools, the program will appear. Then, in the program manager of sk, you can select to move the application. When you do this, SK will update the registry and all link paths, so you won't have any weird issues. You can relocate the program anywhere you want. This is one of the many great features of sk tools, but you may need the paid for version (don't know which one you have).
Second, just take a look at the link path like I mentioned above. I have a feeling you'll see the problem. It's easy to fix, but it's even easier to just create a link with total commander. Check this post for a quick tutorial on using TC to do this.
Finally, maybe since your phone is in the Chinese language, there's something weird going on with the naming of 'Storage Card.' Looking at your caps, the storage card name in file explorer is in Chinese. Perhaps this is where the paths are being screwed up. Again, look at the link path with TC, but also take a look at HKLM\System\Storage Manager\Profiles\SDMMC and check the value of 'folder.' I'm pretty sure it needs to exactly match the name in you shortcut paths. For WWE touch pros, it is 'Storage Card.'
Hope that helps.

I use Total Commander and double click the cab to install it and have had no uninstall issues, but SK Tools tracking of all the install tweaks is great to have if issues do arise. Farmer Ted's advice about the name of the storage card has been an issue with languages other than WWE. Another thing you might check is the time delay windows uses to find the storage card. That value can be set with a RegEditer or done with Advanced Configuration under: Performances - PPN unload delay and PPN wait I/O delay. Those values sometimes can influence the devices ability to read the SD card. Short delay doesn't seem to effect reading the card with a file manager, but can time out too soon for a program file read request.
Give it a try.

Thanks for the advice guys, I will give your suggestions a try.
@Farmer Ted, I am using SKTools v.4.1.25, I think i remembered the version correctly.......anyway i'm using a full version of it and yup i've already tried using Cab Manager to install the files but as i've posted in my previous post, it doesn't work for some .cab files i try to install.
Ok i've just tried using SK Tools v4.1.25, i went to the setting and ticked "associate SKTools with .cab files" or something like that. I then chose Cab Manager, one of the options in SKTools and tried installing a cab file and everything installed fine except the same problem still occurs, i try to launch the shortcut in the "Programs" folder and still couldn't launch.
And also, some .cab files can't be installed with SKTools, as it shows the error message saying: "This file is not Windows CE CAB package", even though i can install it normally with the default installer.
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Anyway i already have Total Commander installed so i'll give that a try. Oh and I don't think there's anything wrong with the naming of the 'Storage Card', I know it's in chinese but it just means storage card in english, it's the same. But i'll try out ur advice and post back, thanks for the replies.

Ok guys, just to update on my problem, I've tried EVERYTHING and now I fully give up, it's too much work for a stupid small and simple problem like this, I really think that it's really due to the fact or problem that my phone is in chinese........as a lot of people have reported, this problem seems to happen only on phones in mostly chinese or non-english.
Anyway here's what I did........BTW I have updated my SKTools from 4.1.25 to 4.4.7.9 which is the newest version I believe......and it's full version btw, not trial.
So ya I pretty much did everything suggested by you guys and i mean EVERYTHING but i'll just list what I did so it's easier to track:
1. Used SKTool's Cab Manager to install the .cab files, but didn't solve the problem. Also, some cab files can't be installed with SKTool as it shows an error saying something like "this is not a valid Windows CE package".
2. Used Total Commander to install the .cab files but still didn't solve the problem. I DID HOWEVER find why it's not working, as suggested by Farmer Ted, i checked the link path of the shortcut and there is indeed a problem that is very easily noticeable.
First of all, 儲存卡 means storage card in chinese. The link path shows "???" instead of "儲存卡" so that's where it has gone wrong. But the problem is, even though i tried to use the guide posted by Farmer Ted on how to use Total Commander, which i'll post again here:
http://www.mobilitydigest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10379&postcount=87
I've tried creating a shortcut by going to 儲存卡/Program Files/Example Folder/Example.exe
and putting it in the "Programs List" folder on the internal memory, i.e the folder that shows your shortcuts. But it still doesn't work. I then select the shortcut and choose "Properties", which is one of the option in Total Commander. I then chose the shortcut tab and looked at the link, and it's still showing "???" instead of "儲存卡"......
So then I edited the link and clicked OK, and same thing still happens!!
It seems that the phone can read chinese but can't save the input chinese properly.
It's like the same problem on a PC, if you guys can type chinese or any other non-english language, then try it. Create a notepad or .txt file and input chinese words in it and save it. Then, close it and re-open again and you'll find what you entered are a bunch of question marks, i.e "?????????" something like that. Or a bunch of random symbols. I guess it just can't save the chinese word properly in the link path, same thing goes for Windows Mobile, as per my problem......
3. I have also tried using Advanced Configuration 3.3 and went to Performances - PPN unload delay and PPN wait I/O delay, and tried increasing the value as suggested. But problem is still there.
4. Finally, I have tried using PHM Registry Editor (If i remember the name correctly) and went to the path: "HKLM\System\Storage Manager\Profiles\SDMMC" and checked the value of 'folder' as suggested and oddly enough, it's perfectly fine as it shows 儲存卡.
So then I thought, since the link path is "???" instead of 儲存卡, maybe if i change the value to "???" then it might work, so I did. But, problem still there.....
I think that's it, i've tried basically everything and i know where the problem is but can't fix it. Any ideas guys? I cbf hacking my phone and using HardSPL and custom ROMS etc, i haven't done it be4 as i've only started using windows mobile very recently and i still need chinese on my fone........
I've also tried this program called Start menu manager or something (full version) and it's really useful, it edits and creates links for you straight in the "Programs List" folder but it didn't solve my problem either.....
you can check here for the program i mentioned:
http://www.persian-forums.com/f93/start-menu-programs-manager-1-3-inc-keygen-18457/
anyway i'm out of ideas.

Dunno, man. If I were you, I'd try changing the sd card name to "Storage Card" and manually editting the path of one of your links. Changing it to ??? was worth a shot, though, and pretty funny.

OMFG I FINALLY FIXED IT!!
I simply have to go to the registry and change the card name to english characters, and after installing several apps on the memory card, the shortcuts showed up fine in the "Programs List" and launched fine as well!!
I did it by following the guide here, it's very simple!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388768
OMFG finally, thanks a lot for all ur help guys!!

Dang, and I just made you a cab to change the card name to "Storage Card." I'll post it anyway, in case someone else needs it.
Good job!

Is it Possible to instal a program compeletly portable on an SD CARD?

is it possible to instal a program on the sd card. like if i remove that sd card put in another phone the program will work. if u noe wat i mean like a portable application.

Most PDA applictions dont require installing
I install all software (except things like Home2, Resco Explorer etc) onto SD Card then when I hard reset or change device I just create a shortcut to the application in the start menu and hey presto they work
I would say over 95% of the software I use runs like this without installing with just a few exceptions I.E. Lextionary, Bubbleshooter, GPRS monitor and a few more then all I need to do is to re-register the ones that need it.
Give it a try, install your favourite application/games to SD card and try to run it from another PDA.

i did and some programs said the sound part of this program is missin lolol. so how do u make shortcuts.

total commander is a good program for making shortcuts

thanks alot. for the help @ strangetrick and rudegar. im trying cab installer wat u think of that.

Most programs work fine on the sd card, but a lot have registry settings that you will lose when you either flash, hard reset, or swap the card into a new device. Some programs will also install a .dll into the \windows folder when you install them to the sd card (Skyfire does this), so you have to keep that in mind. Use a cab analyzer to see where things go (SK tools, WinCE cab analyzer). Also, many programs will save settings in the \Application Data folder, so you'll lose the settings/cache/history unless you back it up.
I wouldn't put anything that runs continuously on your sd card (gscroll, aebutton, task managers and things like that). I've done this myself, and have found that it can cause corruption of the card. I think that soft re-setting is the problem. It's kind of like yanking a usb drive off your computer without powering it down properly. Definitely do not put FingerKeyboard on your sd card. I did it (like an idiot, even though the thread says not to), and it causes corruption very quickly (16 GB Sandisk). I also suspect that putting a bunch of apps that run continuously (or that you use a lot) on your sd card will consume more battery. At least, the sd card power-save options won't work if you have things running from your card, I suspect.

wow very helpfull thanks u @farmer ted.

A lot of programs do have bits and peices in the WINDOWS folder but SkyFire works fine without it and many others.
For programs that have registry keys and activation codes stored in the registry I just export them using Resco Explorer then before I reflash or hardreset I backup the contents of the WINDOWS\START MENU folder
Then when I have finished I install Resco, restore the shortcuts I want tap on the saved registry keys and literaly 95% of everything works.
I have used WinCE Can Anaylser to 'hack' custom installs of my Lingvosoft products (and a few others) which install loads of junk to WINDOWS. So the new cab files install wirh nothing saved in the WINDOWS folder and once again these run fine from the saved shortcut and saved registry keys.
But this is trial and error, some applications dont work and some do (nearly all in my case) give it a try.

yeah im having touble wit ma lingvosoft products. so ill try using wince cab anlayser

Solution! How to fix wmediaplayer if it won't open files on SD card?!

hey all,
i recently had some problems with my media player,
it woudn't open any songs that were located on my SD card, and if i updated my library it said it found files, but after it completed adding, it only added files from main memory.
well, i found out this works:
On the storage card, delete the following file Storage Card\MSMETADATA\XMEMediaLibrary.mlb You may have to tap & hold in the File Manager window on a blank area and choose "Show All Files" in order to see this folder. If this XMEMedialibrary.mlb isnt in that folder, just delete the whole folder, that worked for me. Also delete the file: Mobile Device\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\XMEMediaLibrary.mlb
i hope this will help other users, cause it really was a pain in the (...),
lex (ipaq 214 wm6.1)