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I have searched thru this forum to try and find an answer to this and also the net...
is there a 3rd party hack to make my xda2's ie be fully JVM complient so it can run java applets etc?
i know there is a midlet jvm from o2 but it doesnt work all the time.
Dave
http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/computing/users/fittond/ppcjava.html
http://www.ewesoft.com/Downloads/Downloads.html
3th google result
XDA2 JVM
HAVE U GUYS ACTUALLY GOT YOUR XDA2s running JAVA APPLETS!?
or r u guys just assuming that these links r the solution and have not tried it on an xda2?
i have followed these links before but NONE of them say that they will work on xda2 running the windows MOBILE O/S and on internet explrer version that xda2 users r stuck with.
they say they wrk on windows ce but not mobile.
HAVE U GUYS ACTUALLY GOT YOUR XDA2 running java applets????
sorry im very frustrated.PLEASE HELP!
dave
The Ewesoft program is VERY confusing.
And as far as i can tell, it didnt work.
I've been looking for some kind of Java that will allow me to run Java applets off of website (like jIRC).
Right now I'm looking at CrEme, which looks like its what I need. But I think I'll have to buy it (i really dont care at this point )
~Ike
JAVA FOR XDA2
AHA!! I KNEW IT... ALL THESE "EXPERTS" CLAIMING TO HAVE A SOLUTION AND PASTING LINKS IN HERE,... AND YET THEY HAVNT FRIGGIN TRIED THE MEDICINE THEM SELVES ON THE XDA2 !!! ARGH!!!
THAT TICKS ME OFF SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!! :>(
IM SO MAD I WANNA EAT MY CRT MONITOR!!! GRRRAAAAAA!!!!
HAS ANYBODY FRIGGIN GOT THEIR JAVA APPLETS RUNNING ON XDA 2 YET OR NOT!??!
PLEAAAAASE TELL ME... IF YOU HAVE, ILL KISS YOU, (if youre a supermodel) AND MARRY U.
I downloaded a copy of Netfront 3 which comes bundled with JVLite2. I havent really used applets with it (except for the 2 games and the calculator that comes with it) but it's been amazingly compatible with full blown Java based chat systems (with multiple resizable windows) when launhced through the Netfront browser. As for the midlet thing that comes with the phone I havent got it to work with anything, I can select the setup option then nothing happens.
Make sure you have ROM 1.60 or later if you're on an XDA 2 because I found that the Java program just disappears in some complex apps with anything older. Also be wary of using Java chat rooms on the train, if u go in a tunnel the Java program will freeze up and wont close, even with special task manager programs on the phone! :lol:
More info can be found here http://www.access.co.jp/english/products/jv.html
Ash
JVM FOR XDA2
aha! a real lead this time!
hey buddy, run icq applet at
http://go.icq.com
PLEASE TELL ME IF IT WORKS!
so that i don't have to risk 30 us dollars.
many thanks in advance!
if it doesn't work can u try a java website like net banking sites?
il be eagerly waiting ur feedback on the results
Dave
well i installed and used ewe compiled an old java program i wrote years agoe just to try it out and it ran just fine
it was no applet and had no gui
but it ran all the same
as for running java in a browser then i havent come across a plugin for IE maybe some of the other browsers have it maybe when opera comes to town it will have a plugin
p.s. writing with capital letters mean that you are shouting which is normal when one is fustrated but you have normal letters in the middle
which is "talking" normaly would be pretty fun irl mixing shouts and normal talk
opera? she makes browsers?!
that black female (barely) talk show host that cant make up her to stay either fat or thin makes browsers?
will it work for xda2?
how many browsers in total currently work on xda2
and is it possible 2 upgrade the version of ie that comes with xda2? say 2 version 6?
dude who got java working on xda2 for irc... still waiting 4 ur results on go.icq.com applet.
DAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://dailywireless.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2996&src=rss09
it's for smartphone but will prob come for pocketpc aswell
http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/software/internet_thunderhawk.htm
and another
how many browser project there really are is a question only google knows
if one can upgrade an ie on a pda depend on if it's located in rom and if it let other files shadow those files
but has anyone actually tried to run an applet on an xda2 with another browser yet?
so far evryone has theoretical ideas but would love to hear success stories on how the got their xda2 to run full grapgical applets. such as http://go.icq.com.
JAVA SUCCESS FOR XDA 2 !!
SUCCESS!!!
THE NET FRONT LEAD WAS SOLID! Thanks whoever sent that link!
I CAN NOW RUN FULL JAVA APPLETS ON THE XDA 2 WITH THE NETFRONT 3.1 BROWSER THAT COMES WITH A JAVA PLUGIN THAT YOU HAVE TO MANUALY ENABLE IN THE SETTINGS OF THE BROWSER PLUGIN SETTING.
YOU CAN EVEN SAVE IMAGES FROM THE WEB!! A FEATURE IE DOES NOT SUPPORT IN XDA 2.
Get it from
http://nfppc.access.co.jp/english/index.html
Dave
no good for me as yet.....just downloaded the trial version before buyin wanted to check it...and good that i didnt buy it...becaz i am behind a firewall and use proxy server to connect to internet from my pda....my pda ----->bluetooth------>my comp---->proxy server----->authorization required....sadly there is no option in netfront to give user name and password for proxy server luckly internet explorer pops up a window for username pass everytime i try to access proxy...
any suggestions ?
regards
have just come to know net front does not support IIS Authentication......
Can anyone tell me of a free good registry editor to use with Magician. Have found some when searching Net but they all cost money, something I prefer to avoid whenever possible :roll: Call me tight, I prefer shrewd
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
http://www2r.biglobe.ne.jp/~tascal/download/pocketpc/tre_e.htm
HTH
Stefan
:wink: Thanks for reply, these both look the part so will download an start playing.....what do they say, "A Little power is a dangerous thing"
Mobile Registry Editor
Try this . Probably the best (free) today. Runs on the PC. I use it for Smartphone and PPC
Cheers
hrb
http://www.breaksoft.com/Blog/Utilities/2005/1/Mobile_Registry_Editor.aspx
Hi,
does anyone know how to get this working under WM2005?
TIA!
Never mind, found it myself!
Thanks for your support, it was really overwleming.......
Dodger, do you want to post your findings for the benefit of those who might have the same problem? I've never tried the program myself, looks a bit, um, garish?
V
OK Vjay, here it is:
Well, when installing under WM2005 it says you need
evb_runtime.exe.
But according to MS this won't install under WM2005
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/mobility/windowsmobile/downloads/evb.aspx)
because WM2005 uses .net (?).
Next step is to find the evb_runtime.exe but than the CAB-file.
This is msvbppc.armv4.cab.
Than drag it to your PPC and let it instaal itself.
There can be a language problem, but a workaround for this
can be found here:
http://support.pinpointtools.com/es...84&PHPSESSID=e1e9567980fb29986b17705eb671460e
Or search Google for "msdaernl.dll failed load"
After this Pocket Breitling runs perfect.
Good stuff. What do you think of the program?
V
Like it,
but of course it's BlingBling....
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
So, if i understand you correct your plan is to create a wm6 rom for the magician, right? This would be really cool...
P.S.
kingt0t said:
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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i think you mean "guys" when you say "gays"
good luck with your project!
Kingt0t, what you want to do ain't something that hasn't been thought before...yes, you can do a WM6 for magician (hell, you can invent a new OS if you wish...lol) The thing is...time.
There's no drivers for the magician hardware built inside any WM6 ROM...(well, not entirely true - there's probable a few WM 5/6 ROMs which might have a few drivers for our hardware - but not all that are required so to make a workable magician ROM).
You probably would need to create drivers for all missing/required magician hardware...oh and above all...you probably would need to create a special/new bootloader because it seems to me that since WM5, the bootloader has changed it's way of loading the Windows Mobile OSes... (They use what is now called IPL/SPL...)
I'm not trying to discourage you...it's just that we (xda community) have heard about so many people with the same thoughts, giving up after realizing the enormous amount of work that would be required so to build a working wm6 magician ROM
Anyway, if you're really into it, then start by studying what hardware the magician has and how it works...
I can give you a few ideias right now:
- The CPU (PXA272) uses what is called a strataflash (It is glued to the cpu), which i believe there's not many models with this concept(if any). Most of them uses what is called DOC (Disk On Chip).
(if this ain't true, please someone correct me if i'm wrong)
- IDK if there's a driver for this CPU model in any other PPC with WM5/WM6...
- You will probably need to disassemble alot of dlls / .sys / Etc, so to figure out the functions names; what do they do; how do they interact with the rest of the OS...etc...
- Last but not the least, you would need to strip out alot of stuff since the magician only has 64Mb ROM or you could study how HARET (for linux) works and how it allows us to boot a SD Card partition image...
oh well...start posting away if you need help...for shure some gurus in here will start dropping you ideias, concepts, tests that were already made...
Best Regards,
Keeper
P.S: honestely, if someday microsoft decides to release the source code for WM2003 (like they did for win9x and windows 2000), then maybe, just maybe, we will be able to compile a modified version with some parts of the WM 5/6/xxx...
Maybe this is a good start, at least for WM5?
Ubiquio 401 has the same PXA272 CPU and 64MB ROM as the Magician, but it comes with WM5. Perhaps the IPL/SPL and CPU drivers that come with the FW will make less work for some smart person to make a custom Magician ROM.
Here is the Ubiquio 401 ROM, maybe somebody can extract some useful stuff from it:
ubiquio-401-v1.12.26.rar
I think it's also the same as the Gigabyte g-Smart i. g-Smart i uses WM5 AKU2. I don't know which AKU the Ubiquio uses.
Gnat,
There's one big issue in all this... When someone wants to seriously mess around with an operating system and it's "BIOS" (aka booloader) having direct access to the hardware is a must. Since we don't know the JTAG test point pins for the magician and knowing that no one is willing to trash their magician so that we can find out where they are located on the magician's PCB, (which would allow us to test various bootloaders + roms, without the risk of loosing our magicians), i doubt that anyone in here is willing to do blind tests with different model ROMs / Cooked roms, without some sort of backup like this one.
Check the last pages of this thread so to see what i'm talking about...(hell, check all this thread so to see what can happen when you flash something and there's a problem with it or along the installation of it...) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319354
So, if you're willing to do this ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG )...or know someone that is, then we might be able to start doing something... :-|
If we had JTAG access, we could start using the Windows CE 5.0 Evaluation Kit which would allow us to communicate directly to the hardware via JTAG and test cooked bootloaders and ROMs. (check this link for more info: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa447041.aspx )
Keeper
hope this dream come true....WM6 or just WM5 for IMATE JAM
kingt0t said:
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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if you do this, many will make a donation for your hard work...a NEW WM5 or WM6 ROM FOR the MAGICIAN.
Wow, that's a lot of work to find JTAG points. I have even more respect for people like Helmi if he had to find JTAG points for every device he has made a WM5 and WM6 for!
I don't think I will be finding the JTAG points on my Magician - I don't want to kill it! However, if anyone has a dead, fried or water damaged Magician, I will gladly pull the BGA off and trace the JTAG points.
If the JTAG points have a specific "signature" when viewed on an oscilloscope, I would be happy to trace them that way since I do have a 100MHz DSO available.
i hope too, this dream to ours magician
Oh btw...the taxist russian guy which released the 2.01~3TX rom did NOT made a WM6 for the magician - He simply opened up a magician ROM, changed a few icons, sounds, apps and packed it again...the Operating system still is WM2003se.
if you guys want to try and mod your own roms, use the following tools: alpinenbfdecode.pl, splitrom.pl and dumprom. They are available at the itsme website. ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/ )
Anyway, check this thread...there's a small script on how to re-create the XIP structure: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=3924&st=1020#entry744997
Once again, this ain't gonna change your OS (there's no WM5/6 IPL/SPL for the magician) - it will only allow you to mod a few things... :-(
Keeper
Zoneaone
It very fantastic for your effort. thanks.
are you still there kingT0T?
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
okey kingt0t...so what you want to do is something like taxist did...a modded ROM with a WM2k3 kernel core...
Well, one thing that i would suggest that you could start doing, would be a new bluetooth stack based on the WM 2k5/2k6 one (widcomm, i think)...
Anyway, idk russian and has so, i don't understand much of what is said on that link, but what i did understand is that taxist found a way of modifying the programs in a way that he could insert them has XIP (eXecution In Place), without breaking the expected original execution addresses...the thing is: he never revealed how he has done it...
There's a few guys in there that are trying to do what he has done by using the three tools that i've posted previously, but idk if they did acomplished the "XIP chain ROM address redirectioning"...
Regards,
Keeper
kingt0t said:
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
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Click to collapse
First prioduce a WM5.0 ROM instead of talking!
Yés kingtot wm6 4 Magician it is not a dream,it is a mirage...
kingt0t said:
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
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Click to collapse
I'm not sure I understand. You want a WM2003SE that only looks like WM5/WM6? But then it can't run WM5/WM6-specific apps... what purpose is that? I hardly see the point. If that's what you want, it already exists and besides, you can just use Wisbar or something similar and make a theme.
WM2003SuperSe must run wm5 apps. it's main task !!!!
still dream or stop
what's going on?
wm6 again became dream
Hi,
I was wondering if there were any good games for the VOX like there are for Nokia N95 or something like it. If they are free that would be great but i can't find them hope you guys can help me out!
tnx cpt.bert
I use PocketNester and I have about 300 ROM's, I also like Raging Thunder and spvDuke which is a port of Duke Nukem, runs awesome.
tnx for the quick reply! can you post that stuff your talking about for me? so i can download it and dont need to search for it all? i would really appriciate it!
tnx cpt.bert
Hi i have tried to get PocketSNES to work on my Vox.
But after i selected a ROM the screen goes blank and my vox does not response to any input from the keyboard.
Does anyone has experience getting PocketSNES on the Vox.
Thanks.
Chongie
h4waii, pocketnester says it runs on winCE, is there anything special to get it to run on our 7310? Where do I download it to on the vox? thanks for your help.
Chuck