Looking for a Jabber client - General Topics

And yes, I've searched.
It seems the top two options for Jabber on Windows Mobile are imov and the Agile Messenger beta, both of which I have tried.
The Agile messenger beta doesn't allow one to specify the server for XMPP, just an ID and password. I stuck in my gmail address and password, but to no avail, which is a crying shame. Further: when I re-launch it seems to have forgotten that it can do jabber now, offering only AIM, ICQ, Yahoo and MSN. Very odd.
Imov just plain won't go, and even if it did, it's all sorts of ugly.
So has anybody got any better apps? Or maybe I'm doing something wrong with these two...
I don't want jabber as multi-protocol gateway, just a plain old self-contained IM platform. The only IM platforms I use are googletalk, IRC and Skype, the latter only because gtalk has no mac client, and cannae do conference calls.

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Yahoo Messenger

I search for a free yahoo messenger for pocket pc!
it's very important for me that it's free and secure (I want to be free because i live in iran and i cant purchase software, and i want to be secure because i dont want to steal my password or hack me!)
if any one try such a messenger please put the link here that i can use it too!!!
dude why the hell did you post this thread twice. MODs remove one please
Hey payam_op, Here's are a couple of freewares that support chat on yahoo,
imov Messenger Basic v2.07 (just google this and download..)
Octro talk http://www.octro.com/index.php
Mchat b2.1 http://pda.mgslab.com/files.html
This one below is a ICQ client...
gsICQ http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gsicq-2-0-0-7.html
Happy chatting and have a nice weekend Oh and next time do not open 2 threads or
payam_op said:
I search for a free yahoo messenger for pocket pc!
it's very important for me that it's free and secure (I want to be free because i live in iran and i cant purchase software, and i want to be secure because i dont want to steal my password or hack me!)
if any one try such a messenger please put the link here that i can use it too!!!
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Now that MSN (Live Messenger) and Yahoo have joined there networks, you can chat with your yahoo contacts from any MSN/Live Messenger client.
So if your pocket PC is already equiped with Live Messenger as it should be, just register an account (free) and chat in the same time with both: your Yahoo and MSN contacts.
Which One Is More Secure?
payam_op said:
Which One Is More Secure?
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Use a "password generator" to generate a good strong password...
I found All These Software:
http://palringo.com/
http://www.fring.com/
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/
http://www.hubdog.com/download.aspx
http://gizmo5.com/
http://pda.mgslab.com/index.html
http://www.octro.com/index.php
http://www.movsoftware.com/
http://www.ebuddy.com/mobile.php
http://getmorange.blogspot.com/
Now which one is Your Suggest And you think which one is better and more secure?!
bye the way i read palringo forums and i get that Palringo Transfer All Data (For example username and password) in a not encrypt text file!!!
and slick is beta(testing) version!
now tell me what do you think?!
riri22 said:
Now that MSN (Live Messenger) and Yahoo have joined there networks, you can chat with your yahoo contacts from any MSN/Live Messenger client.
So if your pocket PC is already equiped with Live Messenger as it should be, just register an account (free) and chat in the same time with both: your Yahoo and MSN contacts.
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Are you try this?!You Say That i can Chat With my Yahoo Contacts Only If i Have A MSN Account And Sign To Live Messenger With My MSN Account?!So Just i have do is to Create a MSN Account Or I Need to do any thing Else?!
You Think Palringo is better and more Secure Or This?!
payam_op said:
Are you try this?!You Say That i can Chat With my Yahoo Contacts Only If i Have A MSN Account And Sign To Live Messenger With My MSN Account?!So Just i have do is to Create a MSN Account Or I Need to do any thing Else?!
You Think Palringo is better and more Secure Or This?!
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Hi,
No need to try, it's a public knowledge:
from june 2007, yahoo messenger and live messenger/MSN have connected their network. This means, if you are a MSN user, you can just add in your contact list any live messenger user and chat with him live as you do for your yahoo contacts.
The only limitation is that you can only chat, you can't use voice chat and video chat features.
Anyway this doesn't affect much PPC users, since those video and voice features are not available yet on the mobile versions.
(except for the voice clip feature on live messenger, but it is not a true two way live voice chat)
And yes, if you want to use live messenger client, you have to register an account on www.msn.com, generally with a microsoft mail address (@msn.com, @hotmail.com, @live.com etc.)
P.S.: I've never heard of that palringo client.
Using those multi-client messengers is another alternative, of course. I was just suggesting that if it's only for yahoo and live messenger conctacts, no need to use multi-clients since yahoo and live messenger users can communicate with each others.
So If I have A Yahoo Email And now I creat A MSN Account For That, I Can't Use My Yahoo Add List When I Connect With Live Messenger And If I wanna Chat With Them I Have To Add Them With My Live Messenger?!
payam_op said:
So If I have A Yahoo Email And now I creat A MSN Account For That, I Can't Use My Yahoo Add List When I Connect With Live Messenger And If I wanna Chat With Them I Have To Add Them With My Live Messenger?!
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Exactly.
If you only add your yahoo contacts within your yahoo messenger, there is no way MSN network can know you also need to reach them when you use MSN messenger. Not to mention they don't even know if you're also a MSN user or not!
Therefore you need to add the yahoo contacts you wish to reach through MSN Messenger from within MSN Messenger, using your MSN account.
Cheers!

Best email, contact & calendar provider online for PocketPC users ?

Hello,
I am a PocketPC user, and I want to completely reorganize the way I am using my private emails, contact & calendar !
I would like to manipulate my data (email, contact & calendar), on the PocketPC AND online on the Web.
Which solution email/contact/calendar solution do you recommend me ?
I have listed these solutions (do you know other possibilities ?):
- Google and Zoho PIM suite: The good, it is online and free. The bad is that there is no way to sync them with the PocketPC.
- Microsoft Exchange: The good, it is on the Pocket PC. The bad, it is costs money.
chris
I use Yahoo. Sync device with Outlook; Outlook and device always the same. Outlook syncs with Yahoo contacts, calendar, etc via Intellisync. So I have a nice backup of everything on Yahoo, can still access things on Yahoo mobile or Yahoo full web.
Outlook on Desktop.
pOutlook on Device.
Yahoo Intellisync to sync Yahoo and Outlook.
Sync Device to Outlook, Outlook to Yahoo.
However this takes mental energy to remember which will be the home to the 'correct' info. So if you edit things in Yahoo, on your phone and in Outlook without first syncing everythign, you can run into issues.
I recently moved to a Service Desk software for my business. It is a served application and I just go to the WWW address to get all the info. Interent dependent though...and web browsing is slow when under the gun...
I also know that if you use the Yahoo mobile plugin system that you pretty much just work from within that shell. Its good for some. I guess it is called Y! Go. I had it on my 8125 and it worked well, a bit slow on the 8125.
I didn't know about this Yahoo sync system. I will have a look at it.
If I understand your feedback, what you are missing is: the need to sync your contacts/calendar directly online from your PocketPC. That's right ?
I do agree with you, the best solution would be to be able to sync online all your applications, that ís the application on the PocketPC (POutlook) and the application on the PC (Outlook).
As far as I know, only Microsoft Exchange is offering this possibility. But it costs quite a lot..
Chris
Google Apps and mail2web
I really like googlemail, and actually use google apps for domains to manage a couple of domain names. I've set up Outlook using IMAP to connect to these accounts but do not schedule mail download. This allows me to easily send emails from my account.
I've then set up mail forwarding within googlemail to a free mail2web account, that is in effect Exchange. This is set up as a push account within Outlook(works really well). Within googlemail I have a rule setup to archive mails once they are forwarded, this gives me a clean inbox should I wish to bring up the IMAP connection to view archived mail.
Could anyone using MS Exchange, give a feedback about this solution ?
Nick, why don't you just use your MS Exchange account (mail2web) ? it seems to me that you don't need to have a gmail account.
Chris
With Mail2web I can only reply and send mails as [email protected]
If I want to send an email from my own domain I need to do it through my Google Apps for Domains setup.
If mail2web could handle personal domains it would be fine. Google do a really good job of this with regard to MX records and reverse dns lookups.
Hosted Exchange would be a nice solution: admitted it costs a few euros per month (6 here) but you get a mailbox which WinMo directly syncs with (without any dirty hacks, plugins and stuff) plus a quite nice webmail/calendaring/collaboration environment (Outlook Web Access).
According to your post, it seems that MS Exchange is actually the only "clean" (=acceptable) way to have the possibility to have your email/contact/calendar on your PocketPC and online.
So, I definitely need to have a look at the offers to see how much it is. Do you know a comparison table of the different companies offering Exchange hosting ?
Nick, i understand now why you still use Google. I do think you can use your own domain with Exchange thought. Maybe not with mail2web.com , but other competitors probably offer this.
How much do you pay for your hosted Exchange ?
spone1, I agree with your conclusion. Which Exchange hosting provider do you use ?
Chris
Mail2web is free!! You may as well sign-up just to see how Push/Active Sync works.
So 95% of the benefits of Exchange (active sync, Outlook Web access etc.) but just no domain hosting. I don't have that many mails that I need to reply to from my domain when I am out and about, so it's really not that big a deal for me to quickly switch accounts when I need to. I'm sure I could get hosted Exchange including a domain or two, but I'd expect it would be between £50 and £100 pounds a year, and wouldn't really give me that much benefit.
But the benefit of having push email is great. ActiveSync does seem to occassional have trouble connecting if my connection type changes through the day. Eg, I connect via WIFI at home, then in the car the phone will pick up 3G, thn by the time I'm at work I'm down to GPRS, at some locations in work I can pick up WIFI again and then for the return journey etc. It can be fixed be manually synchronising to get things running again, but that does kind of defeats the object of push email.
Another alternative is to run your own mail server. It doesn't have to be MS Exchange, there are other that are compatible. But this seems a little like too much hard work without much benefit.
Don't forget that you can use Google with any domain by using Google Apps.
They currently handle MX records for my Domain.
Yeah, Google apps is great, and would be perfect for me if it could handle push email. IMAP isn't the end of the World, just not as slick.
Google apps is my primary mail handler. In effect all mail2web is doing for me is adding push capability
Cloud winmo now
I have a setup that works great for me.
I use a beta (free) service mobipush for push gmail. http://www.mobipush.com/
I use remember the milk for tasks that can be a plugin in google calendar and sync wirelessly with your outlook mobile tasks.
https://www.rememberthemilk.com/
(there is a gadget to add RTM to your gmail screen and intergrated into google calendar.)
I use ogg sync for syncing contacts and calendar.
http://oggsync.com/
Something extra!!!
I also us Jott to add via voice tasks and calendar events to remember the milk and google calendar when I can't type. i.e. when driving.
http://jott.com
This system gives me the cloud experiance of a google phone with the power of a winmo device
I used 4smartphone.net hosted Exchange and before that I'd been using Intellisync for over-the-air sync with Lotus Domino. Intellisync solution was a good one as it provided rather comprehensive sync options. However, I'd been using it few years ago, so I don't really know whether this solution is still available (looks like Nokia had bought Intellisync).
Exchange solution is great for its native support, but lacks few features (like separate folders support and OTA sync for notes).
I think that hosted Exchange 2007 is the preferred option.
Nick-- said:
With Mail2web I can only reply and send mails as [email protected]
If I want to send an email from my own domain I need to do it through my Google Apps for Domains setup.
If mail2web could handle personal domains it would be fine. Google do a really good job of this with regard to MX records and reverse dns lookups.
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I have my personal domain stuza.com pointing to my mail2web.com account and I love it. Works superbly. I can edit calender/contacts and it changes automaticaly on the mail2web server. Also saves a bucketload of time should you decide to flash your phone - you simply give it your email address and it goes away and autoconfigures the exchange settings and then pulls all your contacts/schedule data down. All my mail comes into [email protected] and goes out from [email protected] .... frickin sweet.
I will never live again without an exchange solution.
edit: dont know if it makes a diference but i have a paid mail2web account
Has anybody tried funambol.com? It is an open source project that I recently found. I haven't tested it with the exception of email but it does have contacts and calendar components. I hope it works for you!
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1
windows live mail
windows live mail works just like exchange, syncing calendar, mail, contacts...etc
Push mail works easily and without any setup. Usually it comes with wm6 phones, but you can also install the cab found on the forum.
Xilicon said:
windows live mail works just like exchange, syncing calendar, mail, contacts...etc
Push mail works easily and without any setup. Usually it comes with wm6 phones, but you can also install the cab found on the forum.
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Okay my age is probably getting in the way, but don't you have to use Outlook to synch calendar? Has there been an upgrade to Windows Live Mail or something else I may be missing?
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1
gottago said:
Has anybody tried funambol.com? It is an open source project that I recently found. I haven't tested it with the exception of email but it does have contacts and calendar components. I hope it works for you!
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1
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Further on funambol.com and to the original poster's request. Funambol has it's own web site that will serve to pull/push email and contacts with GMail. I don't use the calendar on Gmail so I can not address that but Funambol provides you a myfunambol web page that will consolidate your email/contacts as well as any calendar/tasks/notes/briefcase on your PPC. So, in effect, you can go to your myfunambol page and see your email, contacts, calendar, etc. all in one place on the web as well as on your PPC. Funambol provides flexibility as to what it actually synchs so you remain in control. While you can schedule your synch times, it also has the option of synching on a 'push' basis. I will admit that this capability is not necessarily perfect at this point but it is clearly being worked on.
This is a great solution for me as I do not use Outlook (too cheap to buy) or Internet Explorer on my PC. I use Thunderbird/Lightning and Firefox. There is a Funambol plugin for Thunderbird that works well.
NOTE: I have no affiliation with Funambol other than as a user of this one product.
gottago
Sprint Touch w/WM 6.1

Messenger with support for multiple logins

What I really like about the new Live Messenger is that it supports multiple logins. I can stay connected at home and at work at the same time, and the conversations are syncronized bethween all my computers.
However, the Messenger client on my Touch Pro does not support this. When I connect using Touch Pro, all my other clients are disconnected.
Is there Messenger client out there that supports multiple logins?
Moskus said:
What I really like about the new Live Messenger is that it supports multiple logins. I can stay connected at home and at work at the same time, and the conversations are syncronized bethween all my computers.
However, the Messenger client on my Touch Pro does not support this. When I connect using Touch Pro, all my other clients are disconnected.
Is there Messenger client out there that supports multiple logins?
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There are quite a few of them. Read my Messaging bible in the Wiki.
When I say "multiple logins" I don't mean "logins to different networks". In short I want to avoid this message when I sign in to my MSN-account on the Pocket PC:
"You were signed out from here because you signed in to a version of Messenger that doesn't let you sign in to more than one place".
Thanks!
Moskus said:
When I say "multiple logins" I don't mean "logins to different networks". In short I want to avoid this message when I sign in to my MSN-account on the Pocket PC:
"You were signed out from here because you signed in to a version of Messenger that doesn't let you sign in to more than one place".
Thanks!
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OIC. I don't know of any of them. I'll check the latest version of Agile, IM+, Fring etc. to see whether some of them already supports this (long-needed) functionality. I'll keep you posted.
(Sorry for the delay!)
Great! Hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to implement.
*bump*
Any new messenger clients support multiple logins?
Menneisyys said:
There are quite a few of them. Read my Messaging bible in the Wiki.
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Link?
How about a good multi-login (different protocols) client?
not possible with MSN as far as i know. the service does not allow it.
Aim allows you to be logged in at multiple locations however.
not possible with MSN as far as i know. the service does not allow it.
Aim allows you to be logged in at multiple locations however.
With the old MSN Messenger it was not possible.
But it is possible using Microsoft Live Messenger.
However; is it possible on Windows Mobile?

What Yahoo Messenger Client do you prefer?

I'm currently using meebo because it's free and I don't need to make an account of the client (unlike Nimbuzz, Ebuddy, Fring, etc) for me to use it.
How about you? What client can you suggest? Is there an client that's worth making an account for?

Which is the best WP instant messaging app that combines multiple chat networks?

Hello, I am looking for an app that combines skype chat, facebook chat and maybe other networks in one single list. So far I've been using IM+, but it is veeery buggy and crashes all the time.
I've just installed Nimbuzz, but surpisingly it doesn't support Skype. Why is that, in the past it supported it?
Please help. Thanks.
I haven't had crash problems with IM+ at al, but it's definitely slow. Unfortunately, it was the option that suited my needs at the time, so I don't have a lot of other suggestions to make here.
With that said, Skype now supports forwarding IMs from Skype to a linked Windows Live account 9in fact, the two services are being fully combined, and the standalone Messenger client is being phased out). In a way, you could argue that WP7 already has a bit of built-in Skype integration therefore.
I think what'sapp is also a good app.......
GoodDayToDie said:
With that said, Skype now supports forwarding IMs from Skype to a linked Windows Live account 9in fact, the two services are being fully combined, and the standalone Messenger client is being phased out). In a way, you could argue that WP7 already has a bit of built-in Skype integration therefore.
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How to link Skype account to Windows Live account?
Or should we link Windows Live account to Skype?
You can probably do it from the latest Skype client for the PC, or I know you can from the Skype app for Windows 8 / Windows RT (if you have something running Win8)

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